Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark bolded: In particular, there are significant differences between 4.6 and 4.7. Doeas it mean that I would have to learn something

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:04:21 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark bolded: In particular, there are significant

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Paul Onyschuk
FreeBSD and NetBSD with ten times bigger teams still use PF from OpenBSD 3.*? There isn't single initiative to change that, moreover FreeBSD is sticking with ipfw and NetBSD started creating own implementation - NPF. There was discussion here and there, why they started creating NPF instead of

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
Hi, On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:28:29 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? Going from pf as included in OpenBSD 3.5 to the version in OpenBSD 4.2 already included changing some ten thousands line of code, including changing network subsystems that are

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:04:21 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:29:34 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Besides, just think of it. As the OpenBSD team ***did*** the work (for others, DF including) why not to jump to the latest version? Is not justified such thinking? 1. They did not do the work for DF nor

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:16:54 +0100 Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: I have to say one thing, too: Your demands towards this project in regard to documentation, actuality, features, etc, are pretty high, Should I choose the list common denominator? First of all I said/pointed at that DF

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Matthias Schmidt
* Przemys??aw Pawe??czyk wrote: First of all I said/pointed at that DF lacks PF Guide known from OpenBSD. Yes, my language was demanding the more so DF PF 4.2 is different from PF 4.7+. The MAN page is not enough, some examples like the OpenBSD's Firewall for Home or Small Office would be

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:21:42 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: 1. I understand that someone will put PF 4.2 guide on DF WWW. You just volunteered? [...] 4. I do know nothing about packet filters future implementations in DF: a) was the PF 4.2 implemented verbatim or was it

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:56:42 +0100 Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:21:42 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: 1. I understand that someone will put PF 4.2 guide on DF WWW. You just volunteered? Nope. :-( I answered why privately to one of the Mail

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: if you just formulate your emails a little less demanding. I get the impression that you are trying to goad people involved in this project - on purpose or by weakness of character, I haven't found out yet. Of course I hope

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Tue, November 2, 2010 7:28 pm, Przemysław Pawełczyk wrote: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark bolded: In particular, there are significant differences between 4.6 and 4.7. Doeas it mean that I would have to

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:37:32 -0400 Justin C. Sherrill jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: 2. But support for the PF 4.2 is sorta soft (weak), as well. I wasn't able to find PF 4.2 doc files on DF BSD WWW. I'd like to see them in the form of OpenBSD's PF: The OpenBSD Packet Filter

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Tomas Bodzar
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:37:32 -0400 Justin C. Sherrill jus...@shiningsilence.com wrote: 2. But support for the PF 4.2 is sorta soft (weak), as well. I wasn't able to find PF 4.2 doc files on DF BSD WWW. I'd like to see them in the form of

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Siju George
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Yes, I did. :-) But as I said - there are dicrepencies - how big? Where? The rule set changes are major. On the other hand DF should provide good documentation on PF issues. Better than now. you can get 4.2 doc or any older doc from the CVS

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Siju George
2010/11/3 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com: you can get 4.2 doc or any older doc from the CVS WEB http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/www/faq/pf/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ might be better :-) --Siju

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-02 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:25:13 +0530 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com: you can get 4.2 doc or any older doc from the CVS WEB http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/www/faq/pf/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/