Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark bolded: In particular, there are significant differences between 4.6 and 4.7. Doeas it mean that I would have to learn something

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:04:21 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark bolded: In particular, there are significant

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Paul Onyschuk
FreeBSD and NetBSD with ten times bigger teams still use PF from OpenBSD 3.*? There isn't single initiative to change that, moreover FreeBSD is sticking with ipfw and NetBSD started creating own implementation - NPF. There was discussion here and there, why they started creating NPF instead of

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
Hi, On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:28:29 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? Going from pf as included in OpenBSD 3.5 to the version in OpenBSD 4.2 already included changing some ten thousands line of code, including changing network subsystems that are

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Stathis Kamperis
2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:04:21 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/3 Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl: Hi, 1. Why PF 4.2 not 4.7 or 4.8? OpenBSD page http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html has one important remark

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:29:34 +0200 Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Besides, just think of it. As the OpenBSD team ***did*** the work (for others, DF including) why not to jump to the latest version? Is not justified such thinking? 1. They did not do the work for DF nor

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:16:54 +0100 Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: I have to say one thing, too: Your demands towards this project in regard to documentation, actuality, features, etc, are pretty high, Should I choose the list common denominator? First of all I said/pointed at that DF

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Matthias Schmidt
* Przemys??aw Pawe??czyk wrote: First of all I said/pointed at that DF lacks PF Guide known from OpenBSD. Yes, my language was demanding the more so DF PF 4.2 is different from PF 4.7+. The MAN page is not enough, some examples like the OpenBSD's Firewall for Home or Small Office would be

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:21:42 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: 1. I understand that someone will put PF 4.2 guide on DF WWW. You just volunteered? [...] 4. I do know nothing about packet filters future implementations in DF: a) was the PF 4.2 implemented verbatim or was it

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Przemysław Pawełczyk
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:56:42 +0100 Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:21:42 +0100, Przemysław Pawełczyk pp...@o2.pl wrote: 1. I understand that someone will put PF 4.2 guide on DF WWW. You just volunteered? Nope. :-( I answered why privately to one of the Mail

Something's taking up CPU time

2010-11-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
I run top and it says that 55% of the processor time is in user processes and 45% is in system. But the process percentages add up to only 2%, usually just xulrunner-bin (i.e. Firefox). How do I find what else is taking up time? I killed the process that had the most accumulated time, which was

Re: Something's taking up CPU time

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
Am 03.11.2010 19:42, schrieb Pierre Abbat: I run top and it says that 55% of the processor time is in user processes and 45% is in system. But the process percentages add up to only 2%, usually just xulrunner-bin (i.e. Firefox). How do I find what else is taking up time? I killed the process

Hammer filesystem

2010-11-03 Thread Steve
Hi, A quick (I hope!) question re: HAMMER. I've obviously read that it's intended for a minimum filesystem size of 50GB, but if I wanted to try it out on a smaller size what sort of problems am I likely to see? Cheers, Steve -- SDF Public Access UNIX System - est. 1987 ==

Re: Hammer filesystem

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Lentfer
Am 03.11.2010 22:11, schrieb Steve: I've obviously read that it's intended for a minimum filesystem size of 50GB, but if I wanted to try it out on a smaller size what sort of problems am I likely to see? Filesystem filling up very quickly. You could try to reduce the amount of historic data to

Re: Hammer filesystem

2010-11-03 Thread Jonas Trollvik
Hi, this thread has some info about this: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2010-04/msg00195.html Regards, Jonas On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Steve spk+dfus...@sdf.org wrote: Hi, A quick (I hope!) question re: HAMMER. I've obviously read that it's intended for a minimum

Re: Hammer filesystem

2010-11-03 Thread elekktretterr
Am 03.11.2010 22:11, schrieb Steve: I've obviously read that it's intended for a minimum filesystem size of 50GB, but if I wanted to try it out on a smaller size what sort of problems am I likely to see? Filesystem filling up very quickly. You could try to reduce the amount of historic data

Re: Something's taking up CPU time

2010-11-03 Thread Pierre Abbat
On Wednesday 03 November 2010 15:52:12 Jan Lentfer wrote: Try running top -S to see the system threads also It shows idle 0, softclock 0, and syncer, but still no process taking up huge amounts of CPU time. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

Re: 2 questions regarding PF

2010-11-03 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Jan Lentfer jan.lent...@web.de wrote: if you just formulate your emails a little less demanding. I get the impression that you are trying to goad people involved in this project - on purpose or by weakness of character, I haven't found out yet. Of course I hope