Re: What's Meta v1?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 2:24:59 PM EST Dan Cross wrote:
> It is the version listed in the file `/var/db/pkg/Avalon.meta`. Oh my
> dragonfly dev machine (which I basically never have time to poke at :-(
> ...) the contents are:
> 
> {"version":2,"packing_format":"txz","manifests":"packagesite.yaml","filesite
> ":"filesite.yaml","manifests_archive":"packagesite","filesite_archive":"file
> site"}
> 
> On the other hand, my Ham radio DragonFly machine, which is running
> 6.2-RELEASE, has this:
> 
> {"version":1,"packing_format":"txz","digest_format":"sha256_base32","digests
> ":"digests","digests_archive":"digests","manifests":"packagesite.yaml","file
> site":"filesite.yaml","manifests_archive":"packagesite","filesite_archive":"
> filesite"}
> 
> I'm not quite sure what creates or updates that file, nor what the
> implication of simply updating the "version": in the latter file from 1 to
> 2 would be.

My Avalon.meta file says version 1. What should I do?

Pierre
-- 
Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be
if it weren't so radioactive.

What's Meta v1?

[Pierre Abbat]

I just ran "pkg ins hs-stack" and got "WARNING: Meta v1 support will be 
removed in the next version". What's this mean?

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do

Re: How do I reinstall kde?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 6:15:15 AM EST Antonio Huete Jimenez wrote:
> The "kde" meta package was missing because there were dependencies that
> were not building. Zrj has fixed them and now the binary packages have
> been built and uploaded to the servers.

Thanks!

Pierre
-- 
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Re: How do I reinstall kde?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, December 24, 2021 7:31:12 PM EST Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> ilmbase is for the OpenEXR image format (with originated at ILM aka
> Industrial Light & Magic), which I believe KDE (and possibly other
> things) pulls in.

Okay, but what's the name of the KDE desktop package? Has it been renamed, or 
did it fail to build?

Pierre
-- 
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How do I reinstall kde?

[Pierre Abbat]

I just upgraded kernel and world and packages. It told me it's removing a 
bunch of packages. One of them is Postfix; two people told me on IRC that it's 
because of OpenSSL and I should reinstall Postfix, so I did. Several others are 
py37-foo, which was replaced with py38-foo. Two others are openldap-client and 
ilmbase; I don't know what uses them. That leaves kde5, plasma5-plasma, and 
plasma5-plasma-desktop. Which package should I install to get a KDE desktop?

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

Re: Problems with sites using Let's Encrypt certificates

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 8:40:11 PM EDT James Cook wrote:
> - If you upgrade to DragonflyBSD 6.0.1, the problem will go away. See
> 
>   https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2021/10/13/26267.html

I'm running 6.1.0.3. Should I upgrade to the latest master?

Pierre

-- 
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li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

Miredo doesn't work right when IP address changes

[Pierre Abbat]

My ISP's IPv6 connection stopped working several days ago (I still get an 
address, but trying to ping from it results in "ping6: sendmsg: No route to 
host"). Miredo works fine on Linux, but not on DragonFly. Every so often my 
connection breaks (and will break tomorrow when the thunderstorm comes). The 
teredo device on Linux looks like this in ifconfig:

teredo: flags=4305  mtu 1280
inet6 2001:0:c38c:c38c:3cc5:519f:bcd3:2eb7  prefixlen 32  scopeid 
0x0
inet6 fe80::470a:7247:656d:33e3  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
inet6 fe80::::  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20
unspec 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  txqueuelen 500  
(UNSPEC)
RX packets 18499  bytes 7083906 (7.0 MB)
RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
TX packets 21127  bytes 2022794 (2.0 MB)
TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0

And in BSD:

teredo: flags=8043 metric 0 mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::222:4dff:fe84:bb1d%teredo prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet6 fe80::::%teredo prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet6 2001:0:c38c:c38c:2002:602f:bcd3:2f25 prefixlen 128
inet6 2001:0:c38c:c38c:3c32:5e2f:bcd3:2f18 prefixlen 128
inet6 2001:0:c38c:c38c:20e2:502f:bcd3:2eb7 prefixlen 128
groups: tun
Opened by PID 18239

Restarting miredo results in no address:

teredo: flags=8002 metric 0 mtu 1500
groups: tun

To get a single address, I have to do this:

# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/miredo stop
Stopping miredo.
# ifconfig teredo destroy
# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/miredo start
Starting miredo.

I'm running v6.1.0.3.g70c69-DEVELOPMENT and miredo-1.2.6_6. Is the problem in 
miredo or in the kernel?


-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.

Electrum upgrade

[Pierre Abbat]

I just ran Electrum to check how much Bitcoin I have in a wallet I haven't 
checked in a few years, after running pkg which told me the most recent 
version is installed. It says there's a version 4.1.5 available; the version 
in the repo is 4.0.9.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

Re: pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 12:25:58 PM EDT Antonio Huete Jiménez wrote:
> Yes, packages for 5.9 (old master) are 'dragonfly:5.10' because 5.10
> was a tentative version number for the next release. But as it turns
> out, we branched 6.0 so now the packages for current master (6.1) are
> 'dragonfly:6.2' and the 5.10 ones are removed.

So should I install packages for 6.0 or 6.2?

Pierre

-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Re: pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 8:08:57 PM EDT Antonio Huete Jiménez wrote:
> Would it be possible for you to upgrade to latest master and retried?

I just got around to rebooting. Here's what happened when I tried to install:

# pkg ins dmalloc
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
pkg: http://mirror-master.dragonflybsd.org/dports/dragonfly:5.10:x86:64/LATEST/
meta.txz: Not Found
repository Avalon has no meta file, using default settings
pkg: http://mirror-master.dragonflybsd.org/dports/dragonfly:5.10:x86:64/LATEST/
packagesite.txz: Not Found
Unable to update repository Avalon
Error updating repositories!

Tuxillo sent a message on the 24th that 5.10 has been removed, but I'm running 
v5.9.0.1502, compiled on the 15th.

Pierre
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Re: pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, April 12, 2021 7:27:19 PM EDT Antonio Huete Jiménez wrote:
> What's your dragonfly version?

5.9.0.895.gfae39-DEVELOPMENT

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pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument

[Pierre Abbat]

Resending. I've fixed the bug, but the problem with pkg remains.

I tried to install dmalloc to debug a memory allocation bug. The interaction 
went like this:

# pkg sea dmalloc
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
dmalloc-5.5.2_1Portable debug memory allocation library
# pkg ins dmalloc
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
Avalon repository is up to date.
All repositories are up to date.
New version of pkg detected; it needs to be installed first.
The following 1 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
pkg: 1.15.10 -> 1.16.1 [Avalon]

Number of packages to be upgraded: 1

3 MiB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y
[1/1] Fetching pkg-1.16.1.txz: 100%3 MiB  95.4kB/s00:32
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
[1/1] Upgrading pkg from 1.15.10 to 1.16.1...
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.16.1:   0%
pkg: Fail to create /usr:Invalid argument
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.16.1: 100%
# pkg ins dmalloc
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
pkg: mkdir(/tmp): Invalid argument
Avalon repository is up to date.
All repositories are up to date.
New version of pkg detected; it needs to be installed first.
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
The following 1 package(s) will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
pkg: 1.15.10 -> 1.16.1 [Avalon]

Number of packages to be upgraded: 1

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y
[1/1] Upgrading pkg from 1.15.10 to 1.16.1...
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.16.1:   0%
pkg: Fail to create /usr:Invalid argument
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.16.1: 100%

I then created a file in /tmp, with no problem. Running pkg-static doesn't 
help. How do I fix this?

Pierre
-- 
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BSD equivalent of sysinfo?

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm writing a program that reads a point cloud and constructs an octree. From 
a 6.5 MB LAS file, it constructs a 52 MB octree file, reading and writing every 
block several times in the process. This takes a very long time, so I'd like 
to modify the store to always allocate a buffer when there's some RAM remaining 
(maybe 1/4 of the RAM available when the program started). On Linux, there's a 
function sysinfo() which does this, where info is a struct sysinfo, but 
this function does not exist on DragonFly BSD. How can I find out the available 
memory?

The reason the octree is so much bigger than the LAS file is twofold. First, 
the blocks of the octree are nowhere near full; second, there are several 
variants of the LAS format, and the class LasPoint has to accommodate all of 
them.

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: pkg broke after upgrade to v5.9.0.609

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 2:17:55 PM EDT Ron Georgia wrote:
> All,
> 
> I upgraded from 5.9-DEVELOPMENT DragonFly v5.9.0.583 to 5.9-DEVELOPMENT
> DragonFly v5.9.0.609. When I try to use pkg I get this error:
> Shared object "libprivate_ssl.so.47" not found, required by "pkg"
> 
> If I ln -s lib/libprivate_ssl.so.48 to /lib/libprivate_ssl.so.47
> (dangerous, I know) I get another library file missing. Any suggestions?

Does pkg-static work?

Pierre

-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

Here are the contents of /usr/local:

bin llvm50
brlcad  llvm60
env llvm80
etc man
gcc-aux openjdk8
include openssl
infopoudriere
kde4sbin
lib share
libdata tests
libexec var
llvm35  www
llvm36  x86_64-portbld-dragonfly5.6
llvm40

I have scripts in /usr/local/bin/ and /usr/local/sbin/ and configuration (such 
as Postfix) in /usr/local/etc/. What should I move elsewhere or delete before 
reinstalling packages? Are any of these directories obsolete?

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:45:01 PM EDT Jonathan Engwall wrote:
> 5.8 obviously. As to your problem according to you, your problem is bin
> files since kernel 4.00. So get rid of the old files, (that is what you say
> you want to do), reload your kernel modules, start your python env so you
> can run qt5, and figure out what to do with your software.
> I am trying to be helpful. Cmake gives you your error. I read it, file not
> found. Which file? I don't you because you haven't shared that information.
> Last night I learned a new command. You can test it:
> stat /usr/include/X11/Xlib.h
> It should return a nice looking table, though mine machine did not. If it
> does you will know you have the xorg build environment correctly installed.

On DragonFly, X11 is not part of world, and packages are installed in /usr/
local/. So you can stat /usr/local/include/X11/Xlib.h .

> download and then compile one from it. Then having three, delete the
> oldest. What can it possibly do but lock files? Nothing good at all, that
> is what.

You don't understand the problem. The problem started with a failed disk, then 
I lost the package database, but not the installed files. Also, neither my 
program nor Qt5 is in Python. They're in C++.

Stick around and keep learning.

Pierre
-- 
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li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 9:51:38 AM EDT Jonathan Engwall wrote:
> Do you have a dragonfly5.9 install disk?

No.

Please explain, in your own words:
*why having two kernels in /boot is wrong;
*what my problem is.

Pierre

-- 
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Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, May 15, 2020 12:48:25 PM EDT Jonathan Engwall wrote:
> Something like this is possible if the new kernel did not transplant in
> place of the old kernel.
> In that case, you may have to remove the the extra kernel.
> First you need to establish that you have the new kernel in place. Also you
> need a back up /home/*.* plus anything else you would want.
> I hope you have done this.
> Can you check to see if you two kernels?

Everyone who didn't just install DFly has two kernels. I have 5.9 in /boot/
kernel and 5.5 in /boot/kernel.old/. Also in /boot1/kernel I have 5.5 and in /
boot1/kernel.old some older version.

What went wrong is that the package database is in /var, and I didn't tar /var 
on the failed disk because the failed sector was in /var/log and I saw no 
point in transferring log files to the new disk. So when I upgraded packages, 
it did not delete the files belonging to the old packages.

Pierre
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Building a project that uses Qt fails

[Pierre Abbat]

I reinstalled packages git, cmake, qt5-core, qt5-gui, qt5-linguist, xorg, and 
fftw3, which (except fftw3 which is optional) are required for building 
Bezitopo. I then tried to build PerfectTIN, which is similar, and got errors. 
One was from Qt and looks like this:

CMake Error at /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Gui/Qt5Gui_QICNSPlugin.cmake:4 
(_populate_Gui_plugin_properties):
  _populate_Gui_plugin_properties Macro invoked with incorrect arguments for
  macro named: _populate_Gui_plugin_properties
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Gui/Qt5GuiConfig.cmake:201 (include)
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Widgets/Qt5WidgetsConfig.cmake:100 (find_package)
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5/Qt5Config.cmake:28 (find_package)
  CMakeLists.txt:50 (find_package)

CMake Error at /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Gui/Qt5Gui_QJp2Plugin.cmake:4 
(_populate_Gui_plugin_properties):
  _populate_Gui_plugin_properties Macro invoked with incorrect arguments for
  macro named: _populate_Gui_plugin_properties
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Gui/Qt5GuiConfig.cmake:201 (include)
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5Widgets/Qt5WidgetsConfig.cmake:100 (find_package)
  /usr/local/lib/cmake/Qt5/Qt5Config.cmake:28 (find_package)
  CMakeLists.txt:50 (find_package)

The other is from pthread (PerfectTIN uses threads, which Bezitopo does not 
yet) and is in the attached file.

I can tell which binaries in /usr/local/bin are left over from previous 
packages whose package database was lost; they're for DragonFly 4.0.105, 
5.0.500, or 5.0.601, instead of the current 5.0.900. But libraries in /usr/
local/lib do not have an ABI version (as far as I can tell with the file 
command). How can I find these obsolete files and get rid of them?

Or is there another package I need to install? The repos are at https://
github.com/phma/perfecttin and https://github.com/phma/bezitopo if you'd like 
to try building them.

PerfectTIN uses Boost, but can build without it.

Pierre
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Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:15:37 AM EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> If you installed the world and kernel properly then a 'uname -a' should
> show the dragonfly version.  If it looks right, you can try forcing a pkg
> update with:
> 
> pkg update -f
> pkg upgrade -f

This still says "Your packages are up to date." "pkg -N" results in "pkg: no 
packages registered". It appears that the package database has been lost. Is 
there a way to recover it?

/var was on the failed disk. I didn't tar it, because a file in /var/log had 
become unwritable.

Pierre

-- 
Por H o por B, los campos magnéticos se difieren dentro de un imán.

Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:31:20 PM EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> The most recent package sync was May 2nd, which includes chromium version
> 81 for both -release and -master.

I don't have chromium installed on that box. What else was upgraded recently?

Is there something I have to change in /etc to get the latest ABI?

Pierre

-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 2:38:22 AM EDT Pierre Abbat wrote:
> /var (which is hammer2) and /usr are mounted, but running "nano /etc/fstab"
> results in "Error opening terminal: unknown.".

Figured it out: TERM=cons25

However, when I did "pkg update" and "pkg upgrade", it said "Your packages are 
up to date.". It's been months since I've upgraded packages, and I just 
upgraded the kernel; shouldn't it show that there are packages to upgrade?

Pierre

-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Upgrade from 5.5 failed

[Pierre Abbat]

I pulled the latest, made and installed kernel and world, made upgrade, and 
just rebooted. I get the following:

done.
uhid0:  on usbus1
dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/serno/131061401278.s1b (32. 0x20009)
Starting file system checks:
/dev/serno/131061401278.s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/serno/131061401278.s1a: clean, 87018 free (1762 frags, 10657 blocks, 0.5% 
fragmentation)
/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1a: FILESYSTEM CLEAN: SKIPPING CHECKS
/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1a: clean, 221026 free (386 frags,27580 blocks, 
0.1% fragmentation)
Shared object "libdmsg.so.3" not found, required by "hammer2"
mount_hammer2: unable to connect to cluster controller
mount_hammer2: cluster_connect(/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1e@DATA) failed
hammer2_mount: '/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1e@DATA'
hammer2_mount: dev="/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1e" label="DATA" rdonly=0
hammer2: using volume header #1
hammer2 mount "/dev/serno/S599NE0MA759522.s1e":  no recovery needed
hammer2_mount hmp=0xf80117x22000 pmp=0xf80090542e00
mount: exec mount_linprocfs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or 
directory
Mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed: startup aborted
ERROR: ABORTING BOOT (sending SIGTERM to parent)!
May 12 06:05:02 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to 
single user mode
Enter full path of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

Hitting enter gets me a root prompt. Should I cpdup /boot1 back to /boot and 
try again? What about the old world? Or do I just need to comment out 
linprocfs in /etc/fstab?

/var (which is hammer2) and /usr are mounted, but running "nano /etc/fstab" 
results in "Error opening terminal: unknown.".

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Re: Defining a locale

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, April 24, 2020 8:24:57 AM EDT Pierre-Alain TORET wrote:
> Hello Pierre,
> 
> running a find for fr_FR.UTF-8, it seems that the locale files are stored in
> /usr/share/locale.

Those are compiled files. Where are the source files?

Pierre
-- 
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if it weren't so radioactive.

Defining a locale

[Pierre Abbat]

As en_DK has switched to day/month/year and en_SE has disappeared, I'm writing 
a locale file which is en_US with year-month-day and metric units. In Linux, 
the locale source files go in /usr/share/i18n/locales/. Where do they go in 
DragonFly?

Pierre
-- 
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Re: OT: third party relay attack

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 10 January 2020 15.22.37 EST Matthew Dillon wrote:
> I last looked at it a few years ago but there were numerous DNS based
> services that you could use to test IP addresses and domains.  But they
> never worked well... they tended to block a lot of legitimate mail along
> with the spam, and tended to always be out of date.

I use several blacklists, some of which automatically delist an address after 
spam stops. I also set the reject code to 421 or 451, which tells the sender 
to retry until it gives up, instead of 5xx, which would tell it to give up 
immediately. That way, if a server is temporarily blocked, the spam run ends, 
and the server is delisted, legitimate mail gets through. I've seen it happen.

Here's my current list of blacklists:

reject_rbl_client dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net
reject_rbl_client dnsbl-3.uceprotect.net
reject_rbl_client psbl.surriel.com
reject_rbl_client recent.spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net
reject_rbl_client ix.dnsbl.manitu.net
reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org
reject_rbl_client ubl.unsubscore.com
reject_rbl_client spamsources.fabel.dk
reject_rbl_client dev.null.dk
reject_rbl_client dnsrbl.org
reject_rbl_client truncate.gbudb.net
reject_rbl_client rbl.interserver.net
reject_rbl_client bl.nosolicitado.org
reject_rbl_client hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com=127.0.0.2

I also greylist. That way, if a spammer sends me an email, my server tells him 
to try again. Fairly often, by the time he tries again, his IP address has 
been added to a blacklist.

The Turkish spammer buys a netblock and a bunch of domains (all of the form 
., e.g. enemyfree.co) and sends spam from each IP address and 
domain in turn. When he starts spamming from a new netblock, a few spams get 
through, until the entire netblock is included in a blacklist. Considering his 
tactics, I think a cluster of a few spams let through every few weeks is an 
acceptable error rate.

As to the relay attack, it's someone trying to use my server as third party 
relay, not trying to send me spam through someone else's relay.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: OT: third party relay attack

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 10 January 2020 12.50.52 EST Matthew Dillon wrote:
> There isn't a whole lot that can be done short of white-listing only
> allowed originators and recipients.  Most anti-spam services filter out
> critical non-spam emails along with the spam.

What do you mean by anti-spam services? What are some examples? What criteria 
do they use to block spam?

Pierre
-- 
Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be
if it weren't so radioactive.

OT: third party relay attack

[Pierre Abbat]

My mailserver is being attacked by what looks like a botnet since December 16 
at 6:07 (11:07 UTC). Many hosts all over the world are sending mail purporting 
to be from many domains all over the world to a few domains in Russia. Most of 
the IP addresses are blocked by uceprotect.net; a few are blocked by other 
blocklists. A few are not blocked, but are rejected with "Relay access 
denied". The messages come at a rate of several per second.

There are 133 emails stuck in leaf's mail queue, but they do not appear to be 
related to this attack.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

/var is read-only

[Pierre Abbat]

I just noticed that the usual periodic email is not coming. I checked /var/
log/maillog and found that it's getting "Read-only filesystem" errors from 
maildrop several times a second. 

The computer has two disks. /boot, swap, and / are on one; /boot1, /var, and /
crypt are on the other. /boot1 and /crypt are read-write (I created a file on 
each, then deleted it). Only /var is read-only (and /var/crash and /var/tmp 
are null-mounts from /, which is on the other disk). It is somehow writing 
huge reams of "Read-only filesystem" errors to a read-only filesystem.

Attached is the snippet of /var/log/messages when it put /var/ into read-only 
mode. What should I do?

Pierre
-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do
Dec 27 03:01:21 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: TFES slot 16 ci_saved = fffd96c4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: read NCQ error page slot=16
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: DONE log page target 0 err_slot=16
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: disk_rw: error fiscmd=0x60 
@off=0x000cf150, 16384
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: Restart fffc96c4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 6 78 a8 
0 0 0 20 0 
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:0,0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): No additional sense 
information
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense 
Data)
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: TFES slot 27 ci_saved = 0ffdfec5
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: read NCQ error page slot=0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: DONE log page target 0 err_slot=0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: disk_rw: error fiscmd=0x60 
@off=0x000cf150, 16384
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: Restart 0ffdfec4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 6 78 a8 
0 0 0 20 0 
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:0,0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): No additional sense 
information
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense 
Data)
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: TFES slot 0 ci_saved = 8139
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: read NCQ error page slot=28
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: DONE log page target 0 err_slot=28
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: disk_rw: error fiscmd=0x60 
@off=0x000cf150, 16384
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: Restart efff8139
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 6 78 a8 
0 0 0 20 0 
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:0,0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): No additional sense 
information
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense 
Data)
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: TFES slot 10 ci_saved = efff8ec4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: read NCQ error page slot=2
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: DONE log page target 0 err_slot=2
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: disk_rw: error fiscmd=0x60 
@off=0x000cf150, 16384
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: Restart efff8ec0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 6 78 a8 
0 0 0 20 0 
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:0,0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): No additional sense 
information
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense 
Data)
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: TFES slot 26 ci_saved = 07ff9ff4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: read NCQ error page slot=12
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: DONE log page target 0 err_slot=12
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: disk_rw: error fiscmd=0x60 
@off=0x000cf150, 16384
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: ahci0.0: Restart 07ff8ff4
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 6 78 a8 
0 0 0 20 0 
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR asc:0,0
Dec 27 03:01:33 zyxomma kernel: (da0:ahci0:0:0:0): No additional sense 
information
Dec 27 03:01:33 

Re: Can't connect to IRC

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 13 December 2019 14.08.32 EST Max Herrgard wrote:
> I use irc.du.se and it always works :)

I added that and a few others I found on efnet.org. I still can't get on.

Pierre

-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

Can't connect to IRC

[Pierre Abbat]

This happens pretty often. I have no trouble with Freenode except that 
sometimes I get disconnected for no apparent reason, but I can't connect to 
EFnet for hours on end. The messages look like this:

[04:38] [Info] Trying to connect to irc.paraphysics.net (port 6667) in 10 
seconds.
[04:39] [Info] Looking for server irc.paraphysics.net (port 6667)...
[04:39] [Info] Server found, connecting...
[04:39] [Info] Negotiating capabilities with server...
[04:39] [Error] Connection to server irc.paraphysics.net (port 6667) lost: The 
remote host closed the connection.
[04:39] [Info] Trying to connect to irc.choopa.net (port 6667) in 10 seconds.
[04:39] [Info] Looking for server irc.choopa.net (port 6667)...
[04:39] [Info] Server found, connecting...
[04:39] [Info] Negotiating capabilities with server...
[04:39] [Error] Connection to server irc.choopa.net (port 6667) lost: The 
remote host closed the connection.
[04:39] [Info] Trying to connect to irc.teksavvy.ca (port 6667) in 10 seconds.
[04:39] [Info] Looking for server irc.teksavvy.ca (port 6667)...
[04:39] [Info] Server found, connecting...
[04:39] [Info] Negotiating capabilities with server...
[04:39] [Error] Connection to server irc.teksavvy.ca (port 6667) lost: The 
remote host closed the connection.

Any idea how to fix it?

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: One ssh hangs on exit, the other doesn't

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, 5 December 2019 03.48.18 EST Harald Brinkhof wrote:
> Maybe some background processes keep running and prevent the X program from
> sitting down?
> 
> http://www.snailbook.com/faq/background-jobs.auto.html

The examples at the top of that page don't make sense. If I start an xterm in 
an ssh session, and log out of the ssh session with the xterm still running, I 
expect ssh to keep running until I close the xterm. When I ssh into leopard, 
my local mail server, and forward the mail ports, the ssh session hangs on 
exit, because kmail still has the mail ports open.

When I shelled into zyxomma, I exited each program before logging out of ssh. 
I don't understand why one ssh session closed and the other hung.

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

One ssh hangs on exit, the other doesn't

[Pierre Abbat]

I just added some text to the DocBook file of PerfectTIN, which is compiled by 
pandoc to PDF. Because the pandoc on my Linux box is older than that on my 
DragonFly box, I have to build it on DragonFly. So I typed "ssh -X zyxomma" in 
two konsoles, then entered the source tree in one and ran kwrite, and entered 
the build tree in the other and ran okular.

After over an hour of typing and making, I closed kwrite and okular and hit 
control-D in both ssh sessions. The one that was running kwrite closed and 
returned me to the Linux prompt; the one that was running okular hung, and I 
had to kill it. Why?

Pierre
-- 
Por H o por B, los campos magnéticos se difieren dentro de un imán.

Re: Arena and threads

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15.26.01 EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> Generally speaking the allocation algorithm depends on the language, the OS
> doesn't have a lot to do with it.  Anything linked against libc (that is,
> any C program), however, will use the allocator in libc which we do
> control.  That allocator allocates per-thread zones.
> 
> That said, the memory allocator itself, no matter what the language, is
> still just allocating memory that is shared across all the threads.  No
> copying is involved.  All the threads share the same address space.  Any
> locking is up to the program (or the language) itself.

It's C++. My concern is whether there's a way to return the memory to the OS 
if it was allocated in a thread (say the program has been idle for a minute). 
In Linux, only the main thread can do that. The main thread allocates with 
brk; the other threads allocate with mmap.

Pierre

-- 
gau do li'i co'e kei do

Arena and threads

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm writing a multithreaded program which produces a TIN from a point cloud. 
There's one UI thread, which spawns several worker threads (by default as many 
as the processor has), each of which works on the same data structure, 
consisting of points, edges, and triangles, with each triangle having a vector 
of dots. (For historical reasons, the corners of the triangles are called 
points, so I call the points in the point cloud dots.) During the conversion, 
points, edges, and triangles are only added, while dots are moved from one 
triangle to another, calling shrink_to_fit after the move. Qt also starts some 
threads, but I'm not concerned with them.

To see how much RAM the program takes when run on a large point cloud, I ran 
the program, opened a previously saved TIN, cleared it, loaded a point cloud, 
converted it to a TIN, and did similar things while watching the task's memory 
allocation. I found it kept memory allocated after clearing the TIN, and 
loading and converting a point cloud after opening and clearing a TIN resulted 
in more memory allocated than loading and converting a point cloud in a fresh 
run of the program. I suspected a big memory leak, but found none.

The reason turns out to be that each thread has its own arena. When you open 
or load a file, worker thread 0 does all the work, so the data structure is 
built in thread 0's arena. When you convert a point cloud to TIN, the point 
cloud, which was loaded into thread 0's arena, is moved into six triangles, 
still in thread 0's arena, then all threads create triangles, each in its own 
arena, but thread 0's allocation remains greater than the others. On my Linux 
laptop, the eight arenas are 64 MiB apart. There is no way to let go of freed 
RAM, except in the main thread's arena.

I tried to check this on DragonFly, but instead of showing me each element of 
a map, the debugger just showed me the root node of the red-black tree. How 
does DragonFly handle allocation by multithreaded programs?

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

Re: DragonFlyBSD Project Update - colo upgrade, future trends

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, 1 August 2019 11.51.32 EDT Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
> I say nonetheless, i do not have twitter nor facebook, nor will
> ever have unless chip implant mandatory for not being expelled.
> I see no problems with mail except patch review, but which does
> neither hurt me, and then also can be worked around by placing the
> patch inline.  Setting up mailman is terrible, though, and it
> seems Python 2 series becomes obsoleted, so that there a painful
> step to Python 3 and the "new" mailman had to be achieved.  Maybe
> sr.ht (iirc) is a solution.

After trying to set up Mailman and getting lost, I chose Sympa for the 
Bezitopo mailing list.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: DragonFlyBSD Project Update - colo upgrade, future trends

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, 29 July 2019 13.10.27 EDT Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
> Greylisting through PF spamd is also an option.

Crater and leaf run Postfix, as do my mail servers. I use Postgrey.

Pierre
-- 
The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave.

Re: DragonFlyBSD Project Update - colo upgrade, future trends

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, 29 July 2019 11.27.09 EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> I feel that we do not have a choice here.  Privately-run mail systems, in
> general, are almost dead due to the spam load.  I have to forward my own
> personal domain email through GMail just to be able to continue using it
> and my GMail spam mailbox consistently contains more than 3000 spams in it
> (30-day expiration, so ... 100+ spams per day). And that doesn't count the
> ones Google auto-deletes immediately or the ones my smtp server discards.
>  I've tried everything possible to keep my personal domain and dragonfly's
> domain email usable but its an impossible task.

On my mailserver (bezitopo.org), I use greylisting combined with IP address 
blacklists. Very little spam gets in. A few times a year I get several spams a 
day, because a spammer has bought a new netblock, but even when that happens, 
much of the spam is blocked because, between the first try from an IP address 
(which is blocked by greylisting) and the second, the IP address landed in a 
blacklist.

Most of the spam I get comes through leaf. I can't block it, because my mail 
server sees leaf's IP address, not the spammer's. I filter some of it to a 
spam folder, but that's not as effective as blocking IP addresses.

Moving to a web forum is not going to make spam go away. They get spam too.

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

Re: How to get the thread number and every thread's ID of a running process?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 21.11.07 EDT Nan Xiao wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Greeting from me!
> 
> I am a new user of DragonflyBSD, and want to know if there is some
> method to get the thread number and every thread's ID of a running
> process? I try to explore "/proc/$pid" directory, but can't find
> related information. I also can't find out-of-box API to fulfill these
> functions.
> 
> Could anybody give some hints? Thanks very much in advance!

If the process is on top, type "H" while running top.

Type "ps aux -H". The output is wider than 80 characters, so hit the maximize 
button on your xterm first.

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: Computers for cross-platform development

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 24 May 2019 12.30.21 EDT Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> The NUCs are reasonably standard Intel stuff, but I suspect it will
> come down to asking on the various forums for those BSDs with a
> specific model, or buying one machine and try installing them all and
> see what happens.

Sounds good. I think I'm going for NUC.

> It will also depend on whether you need all the hardware to work or
> not.

What do you mean by all the hardware? What might not work?

On Friday, 24 May 2019 12.39.01 EDT Justin Sherrill wrote:
> Get a single large machine and virtualize each one of the
> environments.  It won't be as fast, but that may not matter if you are
> only building, say, weekly.

Two of my computers (one holds all my email and the other all my local Git 
repos) are over six years old. Neither has suffered a hard drive failure, but 
I just replaced a failed drive on my laptop. I need at least two new computers 
to take over if they fail. I also need a computer (which could be one of them) 
to drive a plotter; the new computers and the plotter will be in the other 
room.

On Friday, 24 May 2019 22.00.19 EDT Zachary Crownover wrote:
> I double the sentiment for virtualization if your intent is a continuous
> integration system for testing and artifact building. As Justin mentioned,
> the frequency of the runs adjusts the value of VM vs physical. I don’t know
> if Travis CI supports every OS on your list, but it might and you could set
> up a testing framework with it. If it’s open source work it could also be
> free through them and you wouldn’t have to worry about computer costs at
> all.

Travis does only Linux and macOS, its Linux is Ubuntu Trusty and Xenial (I'm 
running Bionic, and I think Trusty is too old for the version of CMake I 
require), and AFAICT it doesn't have big-endian.

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

Computers for cross-platform development

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm planning to get several small computers so that I can test my software on 
several OSes. One will compile binaries for Windows; the others will run 
OpenBSD, NetBSD, probably FreeBSD, and maybe DragonFly (I already have a 
DragonFly box, but it's slow compared to my laptop). I'm looking at these:
https://www.newegg.com/Barebone-Mini-Computers/Category/ID-3
How can I make sure that all the hardware works on all the BSDs?

The reason I say "probably FreeBSD" is that another computer I'm going to get 
is a Power9 box from Raptor for big-endian testing. I know of two OSes that 
are big-endian on Power9: Adélie Linux and FreeBSD. However, while it is Tier 
1 on Adélie, it is Tier 2 on FreeBSD. So I may or may not set it up as dual-
boot.

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: What programming languages ​​and operating systems that will to be used after Jesus to return?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, 13 April 2019 16.20.10 EDT Quantum Robin wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Apocalipse 13: 15-18
> 
> What programming languages ​​and operating systems that will to be
> used after Jesus to return?
> 
> In other words, what are the programming languages ​​and operating systems
> that will to be used in the Antichrist's rule?



Jesus's return is shortly after Antichrist's rule, and is followed (I believe) 
by the Millennium, which means there's also the question of what computer 
software will be used during the Millennium.

There are beasts mentioned in Revelation, and (fishing) nets, open (doors), 
and free (people) mentioned in various parts of the Bible. But there are no 
dragonflies. Dragons are mentioned in Revelation, and flies are mentioned 
among the plagues leading up to the Exodus, but the word "μυια" (fly) does not 
occur in the Greek NT.

Python is mentioned in Acts 16:16, but it is not a programming language or 
even a snake, but a spirit used by oracles. Snow is mentioned, but no Snobol 
AFAIK. Julia is mentioned in Romans 16, but again she is not a programming 
language.

There is not enough information in the Bible to answer the question. But I 
would be very interested in what kinds of computers we will use in the Olam 
haBa, which will be in a new universe (Rev. 21:1) with completely different 
physical laws (Rev. 21:16).

Pierre
-- 
Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be
if it weren't so radioactive.

Re: /compat/linux/proc

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 8 March 2019 09.38.38 EST Aleksej Lebedev wrote:
> Well, it seems to work.

Sounds good.

> In fact, I think you can. I only have dragonfly on my server at Hetzner,
> so I installed geogebra there and run it using ssh X11-forwarding. You
> can too.

I can't run it here for two reasons:
* I can't reach zyxomma directly from this hotel. I have to go through marozi, 
which does not have X.
* Zyxomma is on a satellite connection, which adds about 600 ms of latency. 
When I'm home, mooncat and zyxomma are on the same LAN, and I can easily run X 
programs over ssh.

Pierre
-- 
Por H o por B, los campos magnéticos se difieren dentro de un imán.

Re: /compat/linux/proc

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 8 March 2019 07.39.43 EST Aleksej Lebedev wrote:
> I don't know anything about GeoGebra, but there is geogebra-5.0.513.0 in
> the official DragonFly repo.
> You can try it with
> 
>  sudo pkg install geogebra
> 
> Hope this helps.

And when you run it, what happens?

I already installed it. I can't try *running* it until I get home. The 
"Message from geogebra" was the result of running "pkg install geogebra".

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Re: /compat/linux/proc

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 8 March 2019 04.28.55 EST Antonio Huete Jiménez wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> DragonFly has only ever supported 32-bit Linux emulation and that was
> removed a while ago.

Is there a way to get GeoGebra to work? I can't test it until I get home, 
which will be late Sunday.

Pierre

-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

/compat/linux/proc

[Pierre Abbat]

I am at a math conference and got a book "Exploring Advanced Euclidean 
Geometry with GeoGebra". Since the version on my laptop (4.0.34 for Bionic) 
does not work (known bug), I installed it on zyxomma, and got this message:

Message from geogebra-5.0.449.0:

This software wants linprocfs mounted on /compat/linux/proc. Add the
following line to /etc/fstab:

linprocfs   /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs   rw  0   0

I added the line and then did the following:

# ls /compat
ndis
# mkdir /compat/linux
# mkdir /compat/linux/proc
# mount /compat/linux/proc
mount: exec mount_linprocfs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or 
directory

Where do I get mount_linprocfs? I have two files by that name, but one's a 32-
bit version from my previous DragonFly box, darner, and the other is for 
DragonFly 4.0.100.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

Can't shell into leaf on IPv6

[Pierre Abbat]

$ ssh -6 leaf.dragonflybsd.org
ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer

$ ssh -4 leaf.dragonflybsd.org
Last login: Sat Nov  3 18:31:40 2018 from 2001:5b0:211c:3

This happens on both DragonFly and Linux. Any idea why?

Pierre
-- 
Por H o por B, los campos magnéticos se difieren dentro de un imán.

Re: desktop problem

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 01.44.26 EST Seann Aswell wrote:
> Of course if anyone has actually attempted to get KDE5 to work on
> DragonFly, they will likely chime in...

It's been some months since I actually used KDE on DragonFly, but it is still 
installed and I should be able to get it up. The last reason I logged into 
DragonFly (as opposed to ssh-ing into it) was to ssh into my Linux laptop to 
kill a program that was grabbing all the memory it could and making it 
impossible to even move the mouse.

I got KDE running by installing a login manager (namely sddm). sddm is 
installed in /usr/local/, so its startup script (as are others) is in /usr/
local/etc/rc.d/. I just tried to enable it with rcrun, but it crashed. I'll be 
away for a few days and won't be able to fix it till I get back.

I have kwrite running on DFly over ssh. The KDE version is 5.47.0 (5.44.0 on 
Linux).

I'm not sure what package you have to install to get the KDE desktop, but it 
may be one of the plasma packages.

Pierre

-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

Re: DragonFly on Power9?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday, 13 January 2019 20.56.08 EST Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> Why do you want to do big-endian testing?

One of the Bezitopo programs reads geoid files in various formats and converts 
them to a common format so that the main Bezitopo program doesn't have to read 
many different formats. One of the input formats is the NGS format: https://
www.ngs.noaa.gov/GEOID/GEOID12B/GEOID12B_data.shtml . "The binary formats of 
the Unix format data files follow the IEEE Std. 754 binary format (big-
endian), as they are developed in a Unix environment." To make sure that 
convertgeoid can read both endians, I got Alaska, Guam, and Samoa in big-
endian and Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Lower 48 in little-endian. But I haven't 
run the program on a big-endian machine.

> Big-endian is essentially dead, with Fedora (which for years has
> offered both BE and LE Power) dropping big-endian support due to both
> a lack of resources and the fact that new Power based projects are LE.
> 
> Red Hat EL 8 is LE only on Power.
> 
> And IBM itself started the process to switch Power to being a LE only
> platform due to client/vendor desires 4 years ago:
> 
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-4
> 4a4f27eba32/entry/just_the_faqs_about_little_endian?lang=en

That page states "No, there will be no effect on AIX or IBM i application 
environments as a result of this change." AIX on Power is big-endian. AIX is a 
Unix and should therefore run Bezitopo (and Quadlods and any other software I 
write on Linux or BSD) without change.

Pierre
-- 
Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be
if it weren't so radioactive.

DragonFly on Power9?

[Pierre Abbat]

I recently found out about the Talos and upcoming Blackbird computers from 
Raptor (https://www.raptorcs.com/) and am thinking of getting one for big-
endian testing. Talos comes with Debian, which is little-endian, but Adélie 
Linux and FreeBSD are big-endian and can run on it. Any thoughts on porting 
DragonFly to Talos?

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

Re: Coupla questions on DragonFly as a desktop OS

[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday, 28 October 2018 04.04.39 EDT John Long wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have some miscellaneous questions on the way to finding a new desktop
> OS. Thanks to anybody who would help with this:
> 
> Acrobat reader: I have a lot of manuals in .pdf format and I haven't
> found anything I can tolerate other than acroread. I'm not saying there
> isn't anything good, I just haven't seen it. I don't need forms support
> or change tracking or any fancy stuff. I want 2-up display and I need
> internal links to work. I also have a bunch of .djvu but the djview
> reader is mostly ok.

I use okular, which is available in dports. It's not in Ravenports yet, 
because KDE isn't, but it is in dports.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

Re: Where can I buy a Ryzen box?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00.46.25 EDT Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> OpenCL would depend on if that has been ported to Dragonfly or not,
> but it at least in theory can work with the AMD open source drivers,
> Intel drivers, and on the CPU.

Both DPorts and Ravenports have both opencl and libclc packages.

> The Ryzen with APU (Raven Ridge codename) is likely just too new
> having only been released in February and even as late as May there
> were still a lot of stability issues on Linux (when using the APU). So
> without Dragonfly support for the APU you would need a separate,
> supported video card in order to get anything other than perhaps text.
> 
> Given the lack of Raven Ridge support you may want to consider pricing
> out getting a plain Ryzen CPU + separate GPU, may either save you
> money or allow to get a better GPU for the same money unless you
> specifically want the ability to drop back to the APU in the future if
> the drivers get ported to Dragonfly.

Is the APU part of the CPU or a separate chip? Does the Threadripper come with 
an APU?

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

Re: Where can I buy a Ryzen box?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, 10 September 2018 11.39.56 EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> If you want to use the GPU for computation you may have to run Linux.  In
> fact, you probably would have to.

Could I do it with the CUDA compiler in Julia (which of course requires 
getting Julia to work on DragonFly)? Or could I do it with OpenCL?

Michael Neumann told me off-list that DFly doesn't support the built-in GPU of 
the Ryzen. Does that mean than I have to get a separate GPU even if I can't 
program it?

> I usually just buy the parts on Amazon or NewEgg, and throw the computer
> together, but if you don't have experience doing that sort of thing its
> easy to get the wrong bits.

Are the wrong bits bits that don't work with DragonFly, or bits that don't 
work with each other? If the latter, the guys at the computer shop should be 
able to advise me.

Pierre
-- 
Lanthanidia deliciosa: What the kiwifruit would be
if it weren't so radioactive.

Where can I buy a Ryzen box?

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm thinking of getting some new computers in a few months:
* A System 76 Leopard, with lots of cores and GPU, but not Ryzen
* A Ryzen box, with GPU for computation, running DragonFly
* A few lesser boxes with other OSes.
I doubt that anyone sells Ryzen boxes preloaded with DragonFly, so I'm trying 
to find a Ryzen box without an operating system. But googling "ryzen no 
operating system" brings up computers that have Ryzen and an operating system, 
but no something else. Where do you suggest I look?

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: Ravenports, what's missing for you?

[Pierre Abbat]

I see Erlang is in Ravenports. I'd like to see also Haskell (which is in 
dports as "ghc") and Julia.

I just upgraded my laptop from Artful Aardvark to Bionic Beaver. Artful has an 
old version of Julia. Bionic doesn't have Julia; I had to download the binary. 
I tried compiling the Github repo, but apparently am missing some dependency.

Pierre

-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

Postfix users, heads up

[Pierre Abbat]

I upgraded from 5.0 (compiled 2017-10-17) to 5.2 on Friday. Sometime today, my 
laptop spontaneously half-rebooted, so I tried to shell into it from my DFly 
box and found that Postfix was giving an error every minute. It now requires 
that there be an smtpd_relay_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions (I 
had neither) with a certain clause. I copied the parameter from one of my 
other mailservers, deleted the check_client_access and check_recipient_access 
clauses (zyxomma is accessible only via IPv6, the address changes once a 
thunderstorm, and all the emali it gets is forwarded from another box), and 
was up and running again.

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: DragonFly on VirtualBox

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 2 March 2018 20.54.08 EST Aaron LI wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> You're using EFI with VirtualBox to boot the DFly guest, which I haven't
> tried.
> 
> For EFI boot, you need to make sure that file "/EFI/boot/bootx64.efi" file
> exists on your EFI partition (i.e., ad0s0), which is the default boot code.
> If that file doesn't exist, you can copy "/boot/boot1.efi" over.
> 
> You can also refer to the example installation script:
> /usr/share/examples/rconfig/hammer_uefi.sh
> 
> But I'm not sure whether VirtualBox's EFI implementation works with DFly's
> EFI boot loader...

The file is there, but it's /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI, not /EFI/boot/bootx64.efi.

Is there a way in VirtualBox to install DragonFly without EFI?

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

Re: DragonFly on VirtualBox

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, 2 March 2018 00.24.48 EST Aaron LI wrote:
> I've installed DragonFly BSD (4.8, 5.0, and master) in VirtualBox (on Debian
> Linux) using the installer, and all work well.
> 
> Maybe you can try:
> 
> 1. Boot into DFly through the ISO
> 2. Find the disk into which DFly is installed, e.g., "ad0" (for me) or "da0"
> 3. Install the boot code: fdisk -B /dev/ad0 (change to your disk)
>(According to the installer, "fdisk -B" is used instead of "boot0cfg",
>which installs the /non-interactive/ boot code as described in the
>EXAMPLES in boot0cfg(8).
>Could somebody explain in more detail about these two boot codes??)
> 4. Try reboot from the disk (you may need adjust the booting orders)
> 
> Hope this helps solve your problem.

fdisk -B results in "Missing operating system".

The disk is laid out like this, according to file:
ad0: boot sector, pt 1 type ee
ad0s0: boot sector, 32-bit FAT, label "EFI"
ad0s1: boot sector
ad0s1a: FFS /boot
ad0s1b: swap
ad0s1d: HAMMER /

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

DragonFly on VirtualBox

[Pierre Abbat]

On my new laptop (which came with Linux) I made two VirtualBoxen and installed 
DragonFly on one and OpenBSD on the other. The OpenBSD install worked fine. The 
DragonFly came up with "Missing operating system" or the like. I rebooted it 
from the ISO file and ran boot0cfg. It looks like all files are installed, but 
when I rebooted it this time, it came up "F1 ??" and wouldn't boot. I think 
it's supposed to say "F1 DF/BSD". Did I skip a step, or am I missing a file or 
something?

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

Spam sent to leaf

[Pierre Abbat]

Every so often, I get a spam sent to my leaf account. I checked the last one, 
which is SEO spam. It was sent from 202.160.134.13. I tried to connect to port 
25 and got a timeout, so apparently it is not running a mail server. This sort 
of spam can be easily blocked with greylisting, which I use on my mail 
servers. I see that Postgrey is in the repo. Is anyone else getting spam on 
leaf addresses? Would it be good to greylist it?

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Kmail version

[Pierre Abbat]

I just got my laptop back. (The on button circuit broke down.) On caracal (the 
laptop), I am running:
*Ubuntu Xenial Xerus
*Linux 4.4.0
*Kmail 5.1.3
*KDE 4.14.16.
On zyxomma, I'm running:
*DragonFly BSD 5.0.0.2
*Kmail 4.14.10
*KDE 4.14.30.
Xenial was a year and a half old when Artful Aardvark came out. DragonFly 5.0 
was released last October. Why is Kmail newer on Xenial?

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

Small form factor with two NICs and/or wireless

[Pierre Abbat]

My laptop caracal just conked out and I've ordered a new one from System 76. 
(This is the same laptop that I brought to Berkeley years ago to see if Matt 
Dillon could load DragonFly on it. He couldn't, so it's been running Ubuntu 
ever since.) My other boxen leopard (Ubuntu, May 2012) and zyxomma (DFly, 
April 2013) are slower than caracal. Both are small-form-factor boxes from 
Aleutia. System 76 sells a NUC with Core i7 (same as caracal, and same as the 
new laptop), but NUCs appear to have only one Ethernet port, and one reason I 
got the model I did for zyxomma (which they no longer make) is that it has two 
Ethernet ports and thus can act as a gateway. Only five devices (one of which 
is the phone) can get IPv4 addresses. I'm thinking of setting up some more 
computers in the other room, so I'll need a gateway. Do you know of some 
small-form-factor computers with two Ethernet ports, wireless which I can set 
up as an access point, and comparably fast multicore processors which work 
well on both Linux and DragonFly?

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

Could you check the build instructions?

[Pierre Abbat]

http://bezitopo.org/developers.html

I'm planning to release another version of Bezitopo in about three weeks. I 
wrote the build instructions while building it on a fresh Cygwin install and 
extrapolated the packages needed on other OSes. I've had KDE on my DragonFly 
box for many years, so I already had Qt when I made the GUI. Also, I don't 
have FreeBSD and am guessing that the packages are the same. Could someone who 
doesn't have Qt5 installed, or who runs FreeBSD, check the list of packages?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: DragonFly 5.0 released!

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, October 16, 2017 11:25:13 AM EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> Hi folks!  So 5.0 is out the door, and this is probably going to be our
> stable release for the next few months.  Master is about to get a pile of
> commits and should be considered a bit more experimental over the next few
> months than it would normally be.  So if you normally run master, but you
> want stability, we recommend sticking with the 5.0 release for a few months.
> 
> Now that 5.0 is out the door, master is going to start getting some really
> fun performance commits for beefier systems with lots of cores.  However,
> the most important of these commits is also relatively dangerous as it
> involves avoid global IPIs by not fully synchronizing the page tables
> backing the buffer cache. Any corruption in that area of the kernel can
> directly effect filesystem integrity, which is why I am posting this
> warning now.

I just tried "pkg search" and got this error:

pkg: Repository Avalon missing. 'pkg update' required
pkg: Repository Avalon load error: access repo file(/var/db/pkg/repo-
Avalon.sqlite) failed: No such file or directory
pkg: http://mirror-master.dragonflybsd.org/dports/dragonfly:4.10:x86:64/
LATEST/meta.txz: Not Found
pkg: http://mirror-master.dragonflybsd.org/dports/dragonfly:4.10:x86:64/
LATEST/packagesite.txz: Not Found

I'm running 4.9 compiled August 8. Do I have to upgrade in order to get any 
packages?

Pierre

-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: Encrypt your home folder after installation

[Pierre Abbat]

On Sunday, October 15, 2017 1:05:50 AM EDT Olle Harstedt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your excellent reply.
> 
> OK, I just accepted the default partition settings during
> installation, and it seems it did not create a home folder, so I guess
> I'm screwed unless I can shrink the root partition without formating
> it. Possible? Otherwise, a reinstallation might be my best option
> here. (Except that I physically have to move the hard-drive since dfly
> won't read USB on the X220 laptop ><)

As far as I can tell, this is not possible. Can you add another hard disk?

> A related question: Is it possible to encrypt a HAMMER PFS?

You mean filesystem encryption (as opposed to block encryption, which is what 
cryptsetup does)? I don't see anything about it in the man page.

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: Encrypt your home folder after installation

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:03:02 AM EDT Olle Harstedt wrote:
> Hi dfly!
> 
> I've installed dfly and wish to encrypt my home folder. I discussed it
> breifly on #dragonflybsd, and it seems like the best option is to
> encrypt the whole disk *during* installation, not after. Are there any
> other options?

Are you encrypting just /home, or the whole disk? It's been a long time since 
I've installed any OS. On zyxomma (my DragonFly box) I have a plaintext slice, 
which is /, /home, and most other filesystems, and a ciphertext slice, which 
is /crypt and /usr/obj, which I put as a PFS on /crypt because I was once 
compiling lots of stuff at once and /crypt is bigger. On my Linux laptop and 
mailserver, I do have /home encrypted, but /usr is plaintext.

No matter how you set up disk encryption, /boot must be plaintext, because 
that's where the encryption code is stored.

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

libgd conflicts with uk-libgd

[Pierre Abbat]

On installing gnuplot, I got a problem. pkg check -d reported this:

Checking all packages: 100%
apache24 is missing a required shared library: libaprutil-1.so.0
apache24 is missing a required shared library: libapr-1.so.0
apache24 is missing a required shared library: libdb-5.3.so.0
gcc-aux is missing a required shared library: libmpfr.so.4
gcc-aux is missing a required shared library: libmpc.so.3
gcc47 is missing a required shared library: libmpfr.so.4
gcc47 is missing a required shared library: libmpc.so.3
gnuplot is missing a required shared library: libgd.so.6
libva has a missing dependency: libGL
llvm36 is missing a required shared library: libedit.so.0
pulseaudio is missing a required shared library: libXtst.so.6
pulseaudio is missing a required shared library: libsndfile.so.1
pulseaudio is missing a required shared library: libltdl.so.7
xdriinfo has a missing dependency: libGL

>>> Missing package dependencies were detected.
>>> Found 1 issue(s) in the package database.

pkg: No packages available to install matching 'libGL' have been found in the 
repositories
>>> Summary of actions performed:

libGL dependency failed to be fixed

>>> There are still missing dependencies.
>>> Try fixing them manually.

>>> Also make sure to check 'pkg updating' for known issues.

pkg updating has a notice from four years ago about libGL which says to use 
portmaster. Is it still valid? Should I use portmaster?

When installing all the packages for gnuplot, it installed uk-libgd, but that 
conflicts with libgd. Which one should I have installed?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

Re: New experimental statistics collector in master

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:54:42 PM EDT Matthew Dillon wrote:
> If you have gnuplot installed (pkg install gnuplot), kcollect can generate
> some useful graphs based on the in-kernel data.  Well, it will be boring if
> the machine isn't doing anything :-).  There are options to use gnuplot to
> generate a plot window in X or a .jpg or .png file, and other options to
> set the width and height and such.  At the moment the gnuplot output uses a
> subset of statically defined fields to plot but ultimately the field list
> it uses will be specifiable.

Typo in the man page:
-s  Smooth plot output (only applicable to gunplot).
Do you mean "applicable only to gnuplot"?

Pierre
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

Re: Packages for 4.9

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:07:26 PM EDT karu.pruun wrote:
> The option "-f" is at the end:
> 
> % pkg upgrade -f

After doing that a few times, so that it no longer downloads or upgrades any 
packages, it does this:

# pkg upgrade -f
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up to date.
All repositories are up to date.
Checking for upgrades (1024 candidates):  38%
llvm36 has no direct installation candidates, change it to llvm35? [Y/n]: y
Checking for upgrades (1024 candidates):  45%
liborcus07 has no direct installation candidates, change it to liborcus? [Y/
n]: 
Checking for upgrades (1024 candidates):  83%
gcc47 has no direct installation candidates, change it to gcc? [Y/n]: 
Checking for upgrades (1024 candidates): 100%
Processing candidates (1024 candidates): 100%
pkg: sqlite error while executing UPDATE packages SET name=?1  WHERE name=?2; 
in file pkg_jobs.c:1714: UNIQUE constraint failed: packages.name
pkg: sqlite error while executing UPDATE packages SET name=?1  WHERE name=?2; 
in file pkg_jobs.c:1714: UNIQUE constraint failed: packages.name
pkg: sqlite error while executing UPDATE packages SET name=?1  WHERE name=?2; 
in file pkg_jobs.c:1714: UNIQUE constraint failed: packages.name
Checking integrity...Assertion failed: (strcmp(uid, p->uid) != 0), function 
pkg_conflicts_check_local_path, file pkg_jobs_conflicts.c, line 386.
Child process pid=7381 terminated abnormally: Abort trap

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: Packages for 4.9

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:08:47 AM EDT Pierre Abbat wrote:
> I got "illegal option -- f". I'm letting it run, but then I'll try the
> command again with -f.

It still says "illegal option". What is the correct option?

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: Packages for 4.9

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, June 26, 2017 9:33:30 AM EDT Francois Tigeot wrote:
> The only unusual thing you will have to do is use pkg -f upgrade,
> the -f flag is necessary because recent versions of pkg(8) failed
> to properly record shared libraries in packages

I got "illegal option -- f". I'm letting it run, but then I'll try the command 
again with -f.

Pierre

-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

Packages for 4.9

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm planning to upgrade my 4.5 box, which has been doing its thing for over a 
year, to 4.9. Are packages built for 4.9? Is there anything unusual I have to 
do when upgrading?

Pierre
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

Bezitopo on DragonFly

[Pierre Abbat]

I'm in the process of the first release of Bezitopo. It used to compile on 
Raspbian Wheezy but now requires at least Jessie. So I'd like to know, and 
indicate on the website, what is the minimum version of DragonFly necessary to 
run it. I have 4.5.0 and it works fine. If you have older, would you try 
compiling and running it?

Bezitopo website: http://bezitopo.org
Code repository: https://github.com/phma/bezitopo/
Once you've Cmade it, type: $ make -j 5 && ./bezitest
(the number after -j depends on your cores and hyperthreads)

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On Thursday, February 04, 2016 17:12:21 Vasily Postnicov wrote:
> As a reminder: Don't forget to run cap_mkdb after any changes to
> /etc/login.conf

Thanks, that fixed it.

Pierre

-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 4/16 11:38 AM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:

Pierre Abbat said:

Once I do that, what else do I have to do? Do I have to put something in
/etc/profile?


Check output of "locale".


I put "en_US.UTF-8" in /etc/login.conf, logged in on a VT, ran locale, 
and found LANG set to "en-US.UTF-8". What gives?


I manually set LANG to "en_US.UTF-8" in a konsole, opened the Bezitopo 
source in kate, and found that all the files are displayed in 
ISO-8859-1. What else do I have to set? There are degree signs and other 
non-ASCII characters in comments, all encoded in UTF-8.


There is no mention of UTF in /etc/profile , ~/.profile , or any other 
configuration file in my home directory that I could think of.


Pierre

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 4/16 07:00 AM, Romick wrote:

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 01:39:32PM +0100, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:

Pick one lang per class.



Yeah, and there is no such locale as ``en-US.UTF-8'', use ``en_US.UTF-8''
(eq. just remove second lang=...)

:)


Does it matter where I put the line? Should I change "ru_RU.KOI8-R" to 
"ru_RU.UTF-8"? Or should I remove the Russian class? I don't know why 
it's there.


Once I do that, what else do I have to do? Do I have to put something in 
/etc/profile?


Pierre

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 3/16 07:29 AM, Romick wrote:

On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 01:57:22PM +, Pierre Abbat wrote:

I already had this in login.conf :

default:\
  :passwd_format=sha512:\
  :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
  :welcome=/etc/motd:\
  :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES:\
  :path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin
/usr/loc$
  :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\
  :lang=en_US.UTF-8:\
  :lang=en-US.UTF-8:\

^ remove lang=en-US.UTF-8 please (the last one, with en-US)


There are now no occurrences of "lang=en-US.UTF-8" in /etc/login.conf . 
Should I also remove the "lang=ru_RU.KOI8-R" line?


Pierre

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 2/16 04:11 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:

Pierre Abbat said:

Should I put something in /etc/profile, or what?


Could you paste output of "locale" command?


LANG="en-US.UTF-8"
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_ALL=""

Re: Valgrind

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 2/16 06:22 PM, Vasily Postnicov wrote:

Do you mean an uninitialized pointer problem? Do you have a source code
of that software that you think causes a trouble? If you think your
memory is corrupted because of uninitialized pointer, I suggest to
compile problematic code with clang with AddressSanitizer. Just don't
forget to compile llvm with compiler-rt option. I hope this helps.
Didn't try this by myself, though


It's on Github. Follow the links from http://bezitopo.org/. It's not an 
uninitialized pointer, it's a double variable, which is a control point 
of a Bézier triangle. The function is returning something like 1e-300 
instead of 280. I inserted a debugging statement to output "ctrlpt 
garbage" if it ever returned such a number. On Linux, inserting the 
statement made the bug go away, but it reappeared on DragonFly.


I ran bezitest under Valgrind a few weeks ago and fixed some 
uninitialized variables and allocation mixups.


Pierre

Re: Valgrind

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 2/16 08:19 PM, Vasily Postnicov wrote:

Let me correct my answer a bit. You calculate 'which' as a sum of
floating point comparisons with some "weight" from 1 to 8, but this is
ok, as a result of comparison is 0 or 1. But, there might be a problem.
The greatest possible 'which' is the sum of "weights" 1+2+3+4+8+12=30.
(Assuming all conditionals return 1). Your ctrltab array has only 16
elements. So if one floating point conditional wrongly returns 1 (due to
lack of precision) you will get out-of-bounds error. I think this is the
most probable scenario


Thanks! I put a breakpoint on the "ctrlpt garbage" line and found that 
which was 23. I then corrected the line


crit=1/2.0*(1/dist(xy(*a),xy(*b))+1/dist(xy(*c),xy(*a))+1/dist(xy(*b),xy(*c)));

to

crit=1/(2.0*(1/dist(xy(*a),xy(*b))+1/dist(xy(*c),xy(*a))+1/dist(xy(*b),xy(*c;

which fixed the problem. The bug showed up on triangles much smaller 
than a meter.


Pierre

Re: UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

On 02/ 1/16 07:38 PM, Thomas Nikolajsen wrote:

Well. Isn't there login.conf?

Yes, see manual, 'man login.conf' or online,
https://www.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=login.conf=ANY


I already had this in login.conf :

default:\
:passwd_format=sha512:\
:copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
:welcome=/etc/motd:\
:setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES:\
:path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin 
/usr/loc$

:nologin=/var/run/nologin:\
:lang=en_US.UTF-8:\
:cputime=unlimited:\
:datasize=unlimited:\
:stacksize=unlimited:\
:memorylocked=unlimited:\
:memoryuse=unlimited:\
:filesize=unlimited:\
:coredumpsize=unlimited:\
:openfiles=unlimited:\
:maxproc=unlimited:\
:posixlocks=unlimited:\
:sbsize=unlimited:\
:vmemoryuse=unlimited:\
:lang=en-US.UTF-8:\
:priority=0:\
:ignoretime@:\
:umask=022:

Should I put something in /etc/profile, or what?

Pierre

UTF-8

[Pierre Abbat]

How can I set up DragonFly so that for all users, all files, the shell, 
and processes come up in UTF-8 by default? I have files written in 
English and Russian, files with Hebrew names, and the like.


Pierre

Kmail on DragonFly

[Pierre Abbat]

Do any of you use Kmail on DragonFly? My laptop (which runs Ubuntu) is 
in the shop, so I'm using zyxomma. When my connection drops, it throws 
up the KWallet dialog box, as if the password stored in the wallet were 
wrong. There's nothing wrong with the password; the connection went 
down. Sometimes it gets stuck and displays "Retrieving folder data" when 
I click on a message, and never gets around to showing the message. I've 
also had problems with Akonadi not starting, though it starts correctly now.


Pierre

McCabe complexity

[Pierre Abbat]

I've been working on a land surveying program for over eight years. According 
to pmccabe, the most complicated functions are pointlist::maketin (62), which 
creates a triangulated irregular network, and triangle::subdivide (58/65), 
which subdivides a triangle into monotonic regions. The TIN uses a tangledly 
hierarchical data structure called "winged edge", in which points, edges, and 
triangles all point to each other. It took me years to make it work right.

I checked HAMMER source code with pmccabe. The most complex function is 
hammer_vfs_mount, at 51. In hammer2, the most complex is 
hammer2_cluster_resolve, at 79/90. In the hammer utility, the main program is 
93/144, and in hammer2 68/78.

Whoever said McCabe complexity should be at most 10 never worked on such 
complex data structures as a winged edge or a filesystem.

Pierre

-- 
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Re: DragonFly on DigitalOcean

[Pierre Abbat]

On Monday, December 14, 2015 13:31:05 Nuno Antunes wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> Here’s what you have to do to install dfly 4.4 on DigitalOcean:

I think you misunderstood. I wasn't asking how I could install DFly on DO, but 
how DO could install DFly so that they can support it. Also, what would be a 
good argument for them to support it?

On Friday, December 11, 2015 12:42:10 Zachary Crownover wrote:
> Vultr works quite well, but you have to submit a support ticket to unblock
> SMTP traffic from your system, otherwise mail will just pool up on the
> system and you'll see weird things like 50+ concurrent instances of dma
> running.

I may consider Vultr for my next server. Oddly, I have a similar problem: I 
can send mail from my droplet on IPv4, but not IPv6. I got around this by 
opening port 2525 on my primary server.

Pierre

-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

DragonFly on DigitalOcean

[Pierre Abbat]

Several days ago I set up a server on DigitalOcean. They offer several Linux 
distros and FreeBSD, but no other BSD. How hard would it be for them to offer 
DragonFly? They use Bochs for virtualization.

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

trying to upgrade packages, I get a segfault

[Pierre Abbat]

I ran "pkg upgrade", and it has to upgrade everything because the ABI changed 
from 4.2 to 4.6. I got this:

glproto-1.4.17.txz   : 100%   15 KiB  15.7kB/s00:01
ghostscript9-x11-9.06_11.txz : 100%   36 KiB  37.2kB/s00:01
Checking integrity... done (11 conflicting)
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
upgrade rule: upgrade local xscreensaver-5.29_4 to remote xscreensaver-5.34
cannot install package xscreensaver, remove it from request? [Y/n]: y
conflict rule: The following packages conflict with each other: jpeg-
turbo-1.4.2(r), jpeg-8_6(r)
conflict rule: The following packages conflict with each other: jpeg-8_6(r), 
jpeg-turbo-1.4.2(r)
upgrade rule: upgrade local jpeg-8_6 to remote jpeg-8_6
cannot install package jpeg, remove it from request? [Y/n]: n
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
cannot remove package (null), remove it from request? [Y/n]: y
upgrade rule: upgrade local xplanet-1.3.0_7 to remote xplanet-1.3.0_8
cannot install package xplanet, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local kdeartwork-4.14.3 to remote kdeartwork-4.14.3
cannot install package kdeartwork, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
cannot remove package (null), remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local webp-0.4.3 to remote webp-0.4.4
cannot install package webp, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local kstars-4.14.3_1 to remote kstars-4.14.3_2
cannot install package kstars, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
cannot remove package (null), remove it from request? [Y/n]: ^C

At this point I figured it was a mistake to keep jpeg, so I tried again:

# pkg upgrade
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
Checking for upgrades (900 candidates): 100%
Processing candidates (900 candidates): 100%
Checking integrity... done (11 conflicting)
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
upgrade rule: upgrade local xscreensaver-5.29_4 to remote xscreensaver-5.34
cannot install package xscreensaver, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
conflict rule: The following packages conflict with each other: jpeg-
turbo-1.4.2(r), jpeg-8_6(r)
conflict rule: The following packages conflict with each other: jpeg-8_6(r), 
jpeg-turbo-1.4.2(r)
upgrade rule: upgrade local jpeg-8_6 to remote jpeg-8_6
cannot install package jpeg, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
cannot remove package �x, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local xplanet-1.3.0_7 to remote xplanet-1.3.0_8
cannot install package xplanet, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local kdeartwork-4.14.3 to remote kdeartwork-4.14.3
cannot install package kdeartwork, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
cannot install package , remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local webp-0.4.3 to remote webp-0.4.4
cannot install package webp, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
upgrade rule: upgrade local kstars-4.14.3_1 to remote kstars-4.14.3_2
cannot install package kstars, remove it from request? [Y/n]: 
pkg: Cannot solve problem using SAT solver:
Child process pid=22665 terminated abnormally: Segmentation fault

How do I make it work?

Pierre
-- 
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

Re: "wlanmode hostap" doesn't work

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:04:57 Vasily Postnicov wrote:
> It seems, that iwn driver does not support this mode. You can get supported
> modes by following commands:
> 
> ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev 
> ifconfig wlan0 list caps
> 
> If you can see HOSTAP in the output, then your device can be used as access
> point.
> By myself, I recommend Atheros adapters. I think they are the most
> supported and feature-rich.

The computer came with the IWN adapter and an antenna and was marketed as an 
access point. If the deficiency is in the driver, I'd like to help fix it.

# ifconfig wlan0 list caps
drivercaps=2581e201
htcaps=5006e

Pierre
-- 
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undefined reference to `crc32_tab' building hammer

[Pierre Abbat]

I try to rebuild world and get the following. How can I fix it?

phma
---
--- hammer ---
cc -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/sbin/hammer/../../sys -DALIST_NO_DEBUG   -std=gnu99 -
Wmissing-include-dirs -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wformat-security -Winit-
self -Wno-pointer-sign -Wextra -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -
Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wreturn-type -
Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -
Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls  -o hammer 
hammer.o ondisk.o blockmap.o cache.o misc.o cycle.o cmd_show.o cmd_softprune.o 
cmd_history.o cmd_blockmap.o cmd_reblock.o cmd_rebalance.o cmd_synctid.o 
cmd_stats.o cmd_remote.o cmd_pseudofs.o cmd_snapshot.o cmd_mirror.o 
cmd_cleanup.o cmd_info.o cmd_version.o cmd_volume.o cmd_config.o cmd_recover.o 
cmd_dedup.o cmd_abort.o crc32.o -lm -lutil -lmd -lhammer
--- _SUBDIR_all_jscan ---
--- jfile.o ---
cc  -O -pipe-std=gnu99 -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wsystem-headers -Werror -
Wall -Wformat-security -Winit-self -Wno-pointer-sign -Wextra -Wno-unused-
parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wold-
style-definition -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -
Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -
Wredundant-decls -c /usr/src/sbin/jscan/jfile.c
--- _SUBDIR_all_hammer ---
crc32.o: In function `crc32':
crc32.c:(.text+0x1f): undefined reference to `crc32_tab'
crc32.o: In function `crc32_ext':
crc32.c:(.text+0x49): undefined reference to `crc32_tab'
--- _SUBDIR_all_iscontrol ---
--- fsm.o ---
--- _SUBDIR_all_hammer ---
*** [hammer] Error code 1

make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin/hammer
1 error

make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin/hammer
--- _SUBDIR_all_iscontrol ---
cc  -O -pipe  -I/usr/src/sbin/iscontrol/../../sys/dev/disk/iscsi/initiator   -
std=gnu99 -Wmissing-include-dirs -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wformat-
security -Winit-self -Wno-pointer-sign -Wextra -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-
prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wold-style-definition -Wno-
maybe-uninitialized -Wno-unused-but-set-variable -Wno-unused-but-set-parameter 
-Wno-unused-local-typedefs -Wno-unused-value -c /usr/src/sbin/iscontrol/fsm.c
--- _SUBDIR_all_hammer ---
*** [_SUBDIR_all_hammer] Error code 2

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin
--- _SUBDIR_all_iscontrol ---
A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make

make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin/iscontrol
*** [_SUBDIR_all_iscontrol] Error code 2

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin
--- _SUBDIR_all_jscan ---
A failure has been detected in another branch of the parallel make

make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin/jscan
*** [_SUBDIR_all_jscan] Error code 2

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin
3 errors

make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sbin
*** [_SUBDIR_all_sbin] Error code 2

make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
.CURDIR='/usr/src'
.OBJDIR='/usr/obj/usr/src/world_x86_64/usr/src'
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=''
MACHINE_ARCH='x86_64'
MACHINE='x86_64'
MAKEFILE=''
.TARGETS='all'
.ERROR_TARGET='_SUBDIR_all_sbin'
.MAKE.LEVEL='2'
1 error

make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
.CURDIR='/usr/src'
.OBJDIR='/usr/obj/usr/src/world_x86_64/usr/src'
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=''
MACHINE_ARCH='x86_64'
MACHINE='x86_64'
MAKEFILE=''
.TARGETS='all'
.ERROR_TARGET='_SUBDIR_all_sbin'
.MAKE.LEVEL='2'
*** [everything] Error code 2

make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
.CURDIR='/usr/src'
.OBJDIR='/usr/obj/usr/src'
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=''
MACHINE_ARCH='x86_64'
MACHINE='x86_64'
MAKEFILE=''
.TARGETS='buildworld'
.ERROR_TARGET='everything'
.MAKE.LEVEL='1'
1 error

make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
.CURDIR='/usr/src'
.OBJDIR='/usr/obj/usr/src'
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=''
MACHINE_ARCH='x86_64'
MACHINE='x86_64'
MAKEFILE=''
.TARGETS='buildworld'
.ERROR_TARGET='everything'
.MAKE.LEVEL='1'
*** [buildworld] Error code 2

make: stopped in /usr/src
1 error

make: stopped in /usr/src
-- 
Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

Re: undefined reference to `crc32_tab' building hammer

[Pierre Abbat]

On Friday, May 29, 2015 19:56:08 John Marino wrote:
 It should go without asking, but are you sure your tree is the latest?
 
 Specifically, does it have this commit?
 http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/dragonfly.git/commitdiff/992ed92cba35afe93e4b
 02bd9f1cf4178f8ab21f

That would explain it. The latest change in the git log is dated May 28 
08:54:09 2015 -0700. I pulled the repo yesterday, tried to build it, got the 
error, and didn't try it again because of a thunderstorm, then tried again 
today.

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

What is killlwps in top?

[Pierre Abbat]

I ran gdb on a program, which segfaulted. I tried to exit gdb, but it didn't 
exit. I tried to kill the program being debugged, then tried to kill gdb, but 
neither died. The program being debugged shows as status killlwps in top. 
gdb is in wait state. What is killlwps, and how do I kill the program?

phma
-- 
The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain.

Re: The DragonFly Mail Agent is now the default MTA

[Pierre Abbat]

On Saturday, March 07, 2015 22:10:18 John Marino wrote:
 New installations of DragonFly will have the DragonFly Mail Agent (dma)
 configured by default.  This is the first step to removing Sendmail from
 base.
 
 This particular change will only have a small impact on existing
 installations.  The switch is controlled by /etc/mailer.conf, and this
 file is never overwritten.  However, there was a small change in the
 default configuration of periodic.conf:

I just checked where this file is; on my system it's /etc/mail/mailer.conf , 
not /etc/mailer.conf .

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

Re: HEADS UP - pkg may delete itself (solution)

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:34:06 Robin Hahling wrote:
 Recent versions of pkg(8) (older than 1.4.12) contain a bug that could cause
 a suppression of pkg itself during an upgrade or a package installation.
 
 If this happened, you end up without pkg(8) on your system. Here is a simple
 solution to fix that:
 
 # cd /usr  make pkg-bootstrap

I rebuilt kernel and world, then did pkg upgrade. I did not have to reinstall 
pkg after pkg upgraded itself, though I did before. After upgrading, I was 
able to compile bezitopo and run bezitest; before, cmake reported that the 
compiler did not work.

Pierre

-- 
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Re: OT: can someone help me with an open-source CAD program?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:16:55 Zachary Crownover wrote:
 With regard to C++ GUI libraries, I'm personally partial to QT.

Not a problem for me, as it's available as a package on both OSes. Can you 
write a GUI (at least a rudimentary one) for Bezitopo? I'll have to write 
volume routines, cross-section routines, and other surveying stuff.

Will there be a problem making it run on both Qt4 and Qt5?

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

Re: OT: can someone help me with an open-source CAD program?

[Pierre Abbat]

On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 16:16:49 Matthias Play wrote:
 Hi Pierre,
 
 for the GUI part I would recommend Ultimate++ (www.ultimatepp.org) that
 is a C++ framework which allows to build GUI apps quite fast. It is also
 a nice library if you intend to use a SQL db. The documentation is not
 that comprehensive, but one gets responses to questions very quickly in
 the forums of the project.

It's available for several Linux distros, though Launchpad is down at the 
moment. Are packages available for BSD?

I will make a representation of each curve as a 3D Bézier spline 
approximation. Do you know how to draw these in perspective or parallel 
projection?

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

OT: can someone help me with an open-source CAD program?

[Pierre Abbat]

I've been working on a surveying CAD program for several years and it's 
nearing the point where I'd like others to hack on it. I need help with the 
file format, import and export, and GUI. It runs on DragonFly (my build system 
is hosed, but I just ran it on leaf) and Linux. If you can help, or know 
someone who can, let me know.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

pkg 1.4.6 deleted itself - I thought this might happen!

[Pierre Abbat]

pkg 1.4.6 had a bug in which, if told to upgrade a package, it would leave the 
database thinking the package is installed, but its files are actually missing. 
I just tried to install a package, and pkg found it had to upgrade itself. 
Here's what happened:

# pkg ins minicom
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
New version of pkg detected; it needs to be installed first.
The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
pkg: 1.4.6 - 1.4.11

The process will require 51 KB more space.
2 MB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y
Fetching pkg-1.4.11.txz: 100%2 MB  99.0k/s00:22
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
[1/1] Upgrading pkg from 1.4.6 to 1.4.11...
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.4.11:  20%
pkg: archive_read_extract(): truncated input
[1/1] Extracting pkg-1.4.11: 100%
[1/1] Deleting files for pkg-1.4.11: 100%
# pkg ins minicom
pkg: not found

So I have a downloaded pkg package in /var/cache/pkg/. What do I do with it?

Pierre
-- 
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pkg thinks a package is installed, but its files aren't

[Pierre Abbat]

I tried to build one of my projects and it told me that cmake requires a 
version of libexpat that isn't installed.

[phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ make -j 3  ./bezitest 
Shared object libexpat.so.6 not found, required by cmake

# pkg ins cmake
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
cmake: 3.0.2 - 3.1.0

The operation will free 1 MB.
3 MB to be downloaded.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y
Fetching cmake-3.1.0.txz: 100%3 MB 784.2k/s00:04
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
[1/1] Upgrading cmake from 3.0.2 to 3.1.0...
[1/1] Extracting cmake-3.1.0:   0%
pkg: archive_read_extract(): truncated input
[1/1] Extracting cmake-3.1.0: 100%
[1/1] Deleting files for cmake-3.1.0: 100%

[phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ make -j 3  ./bezitest 
/usr/local/bin/cmake: not found

# pkg ins cmake
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
The following 1 packages will be affected (of 0 checked):

Installed packages to be UPGRADED:
cmake: 3.0.2 - 3.1.0

The operation will free 1 MB.

Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y
[1/1] Upgrading cmake from 3.0.2 to 3.1.0...
pkg: unlinkat(usr/local/share/licenses/cmake-3.0.2/BSD3CLAUSE): No such file or 
directory
pkg: unlinkat(usr/local/share/licenses/cmake-3.0.2/LICENSE): No such file or 
directory
pkg: unlinkat(usr/local/share/licenses/cmake-3.0.2/catalog.mk): No such file or 
directory
[1/1] Extracting cmake-3.1.0: 100%

[phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ make -j 3  ./bezitest 
Shared object libexpat.so.1 not found, required by cmake

phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ ls /usr/lib/*expat*
ls: /usr/lib/*expat*: No such file or directory
[phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ ls /usr/local/lib/*expat*
ls: /usr/local/lib/*expat*: No such file or directory
[phma@zyxomma ~/crypt/build/bezitopo/dbg]$ ls /lib/*expat*  
ls: /lib/*expat*: No such file or directory

# pkg upg expat
Updating Avalon repository catalogue...
Avalon repository is up-to-date.
All repositories are up-to-date.
Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting)
Your packages are up to date.
# ls /usr/local/lib/*expat*
/usr/local/lib/libexpat.a   /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.1.6.0
/usr/local/lib/libexpat.so  /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6
/usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.1

Should I file a bug in pkg? Its version is 1.4.6.

Pierre
-- 
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

Re: polkit does not start

[Pierre Abbat]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 20:21:32 karu.pruun wrote:
 I am using 64 bit machines in both cases. It's a puzzling situation
 since the relevant ports all seem to be identical on both machines.
 
 Tested with your com.mycompany.Test1 and got the same result.
 
 Thanks for mentioning the dbus webpage, I'll try and see if I can get
 more info how the dbus EXTERNAL authentication mechanism is supposed
 to work: what the strings 30 (FreeBSD) vs 34323934393637323935
 (DragonFly) stand for.

34323934393637323935 is obviously 4294967295 (2^32-1) in ASCII hex. What it 
means in the protocol, I don't know.

Pierre
-- 
Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

trying to get xdmcp to work

[Pierre Abbat]

Zyxomma runs DragonFly. Caracal runs Linux. I'm trying to get a Xephyr or 
Xnest window on caracal to run a session on zyxomma. Both have kdm.

kdm.log on zyxomma ends with:
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-
COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key

# tcpdump -i em0 port 177
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on em0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
05:20:20.168710 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 7
05:20:22.168724 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 7
05:20:22.691578 IP6 zyxomma.xdmcp  caracal.53230: UDP, length 61
05:20:22.692564 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 457
05:20:24.692965 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 457
05:20:25.084306 IP6 zyxomma.xdmcp  caracal.53230: UDP, length 61
05:20:25.084573 IP6 zyxomma.xdmcp  caracal.53230: UDP, length 52
05:20:25.084638 IP6 zyxomma.xdmcp  caracal.53230: UDP, length 52
05:20:25.085192 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:20:27.085849 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:20:31.086083 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:20:39.086018 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:20:55.085212 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:21:27.085312 IP6 caracal.53230  zyxomma.xdmcp: UDP, length 29
05:21:40.127998 IP6 zyxomma.xdmcp  caracal.53230: UDP, length 107
at which point Xephyr quits.

/usr/local/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:
[Xdmcp]
# Whether KDM should listen to incoming XDMCP requests.
# Default is true
Enable=true

Zyxomma is accessible from the outside only by IPv6; to find it one would have 
to sniff packets or break into leaf (or have root on leaf). I'm not immediately 
concerned about leaving the port open, but once I get it working, restricting 
access to my boxes would be nice.

Pierre
-- 
La sal en el mar es más que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.