Re: Gogo Lline Shell and remote console

2018-11-29 Thread Raymond Auge
I forgot to mention, you're completely correct that this isn't well
documented. I've planned to do some work on that, and I started, but I
haven't had a real chance to do more _yet_. Any help would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
- Ray

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:50 PM Raymond Auge 
wrote:

> The gogo shell dialect is described in the OSGi R4.2 draft [1] (page 103
> of the PDF).
>
> The Gosh profile is written in that same syntax. See here [2] for some
> introductory features of the shell language and command interface.
>
> [1] https://osgi.org/download/osgi-4.2-early-draft.pdf#page=103
> [2]
> http://felix.apache.org/documentation/subprojects/apache-felix-gogo/rfc-147-overview.html
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM Doug Meredith 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the information, Guillaume. Much appreciated. Based on this
>> information, I did some further research. Some of this stuff isn't well
>> documented, so for anyone finding this later, here is what I understand:
>>
>>- Gosh is an abbreviation for Gogo Shell. Sure, that seems obvious to
>>you now that I've pointed it out, but you wouldn't believe how much
>>googling I did on this mysterious thing before it finally came to me.
>> lol
>>- gosh_profile is a startup script for the Gogo Shell. You place it in
>>an "etc" directory relative to the working directory where the
>> framework is
>>started. If you put shell-like echo commands in this file, you will see
>>them when you start Gogo.
>>- The location of gosh_profile can be changed using the system property
>>gosh.home. (I didn't test this).
>>- I found no documentation on how to code a gosh_profile, and it isn't
>>even clear to me what language it uses.
>>- The JLine 3 Git repository contains code for both telnet and SSH
>>servers.
>>- The sample gosh_profile given in the JLine repository has code to add
>>commands to Gogo for enabling telnetd.This gosh_profile causes
>> exceptions
>>to be thrown when used in an OSGi environment.
>>- It's unclear to me if proper telnet/ssh support could be enabled
>>without some coding. Quite possibly it could by someone with sufficient
>>knowledge of JLine and the intricacies of gosh_profile.
>>
>> I'm only about 80% sure of everything that I said above, and some of my
>> terminology could be a bit off, so take it with a grain of salt.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:46 AM Guillaume Nodet 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The remote shell bundle does not support the JLine gogo integration. The
>> > code is 10 years old and has not been maintained.
>> > JLine requires a terminal to be created and setup when the
>> CommandSession
>> > is created and this step is not done by the remote shell bundle.
>> > If you want remote access, JLine provides good telnet and ssh support
>> for
>> > incoming connections.
>> > For example if you start the main JLine demo which uses gogo, but
>> outside
>> > OSGi, you can then run:
>> >   > telnetd start
>> > which starts the telnet daemon and you can then connect remotely.
>> >
>> > The commands are registered via a custom gosh_profile script which is
>> > executed when a gogo shell is created:
>> >
>> >
>> https://github.com/jline/jline3/blob/master/demo/etc/gosh_profile#L151-L163
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> *Raymond Augé* 
>  (@rotty3000)
> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* 
>  (@Liferay)
> Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance 
> (@OSGiAlliance)
>


-- 
*Raymond Augé* 
 (@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* 
 (@Liferay)
Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance  (@OSGiAlliance)


Re: Gogo Lline Shell and remote console

2018-11-29 Thread Raymond Auge
The gogo shell dialect is described in the OSGi R4.2 draft [1] (page 103 of
the PDF).

The Gosh profile is written in that same syntax. See here [2] for some
introductory features of the shell language and command interface.

[1] https://osgi.org/download/osgi-4.2-early-draft.pdf#page=103
[2]
http://felix.apache.org/documentation/subprojects/apache-felix-gogo/rfc-147-overview.html


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 3:35 PM Doug Meredith 
wrote:

> Thanks for the information, Guillaume. Much appreciated. Based on this
> information, I did some further research. Some of this stuff isn't well
> documented, so for anyone finding this later, here is what I understand:
>
>- Gosh is an abbreviation for Gogo Shell. Sure, that seems obvious to
>you now that I've pointed it out, but you wouldn't believe how much
>googling I did on this mysterious thing before it finally came to me.
> lol
>- gosh_profile is a startup script for the Gogo Shell. You place it in
>an "etc" directory relative to the working directory where the
> framework is
>started. If you put shell-like echo commands in this file, you will see
>them when you start Gogo.
>- The location of gosh_profile can be changed using the system property
>gosh.home. (I didn't test this).
>- I found no documentation on how to code a gosh_profile, and it isn't
>even clear to me what language it uses.
>- The JLine 3 Git repository contains code for both telnet and SSH
>servers.
>- The sample gosh_profile given in the JLine repository has code to add
>commands to Gogo for enabling telnetd.This gosh_profile causes
> exceptions
>to be thrown when used in an OSGi environment.
>- It's unclear to me if proper telnet/ssh support could be enabled
>without some coding. Quite possibly it could by someone with sufficient
>knowledge of JLine and the intricacies of gosh_profile.
>
> I'm only about 80% sure of everything that I said above, and some of my
> terminology could be a bit off, so take it with a grain of salt.
>
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:46 AM Guillaume Nodet  wrote:
>
> > The remote shell bundle does not support the JLine gogo integration. The
> > code is 10 years old and has not been maintained.
> > JLine requires a terminal to be created and setup when the CommandSession
> > is created and this step is not done by the remote shell bundle.
> > If you want remote access, JLine provides good telnet and ssh support for
> > incoming connections.
> > For example if you start the main JLine demo which uses gogo, but outside
> > OSGi, you can then run:
> >   > telnetd start
> > which starts the telnet daemon and you can then connect remotely.
> >
> > The commands are registered via a custom gosh_profile script which is
> > executed when a gogo shell is created:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/jline/jline3/blob/master/demo/etc/gosh_profile#L151-L163
> >
> >
>


-- 
*Raymond Augé* 
 (@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* 
 (@Liferay)
Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance  (@OSGiAlliance)


Re: Gogo Lline Shell and remote console

2018-11-29 Thread Doug Meredith
Thanks for the information, Guillaume. Much appreciated. Based on this
information, I did some further research. Some of this stuff isn't well
documented, so for anyone finding this later, here is what I understand:

   - Gosh is an abbreviation for Gogo Shell. Sure, that seems obvious to
   you now that I've pointed it out, but you wouldn't believe how much
   googling I did on this mysterious thing before it finally came to me. lol
   - gosh_profile is a startup script for the Gogo Shell. You place it in
   an "etc" directory relative to the working directory where the framework is
   started. If you put shell-like echo commands in this file, you will see
   them when you start Gogo.
   - The location of gosh_profile can be changed using the system property
   gosh.home. (I didn't test this).
   - I found no documentation on how to code a gosh_profile, and it isn't
   even clear to me what language it uses.
   - The JLine 3 Git repository contains code for both telnet and SSH
   servers.
   - The sample gosh_profile given in the JLine repository has code to add
   commands to Gogo for enabling telnetd.This gosh_profile causes exceptions
   to be thrown when used in an OSGi environment.
   - It's unclear to me if proper telnet/ssh support could be enabled
   without some coding. Quite possibly it could by someone with sufficient
   knowledge of JLine and the intricacies of gosh_profile.

I'm only about 80% sure of everything that I said above, and some of my
terminology could be a bit off, so take it with a grain of salt.

Doug

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 2:46 AM Guillaume Nodet  wrote:

> The remote shell bundle does not support the JLine gogo integration. The
> code is 10 years old and has not been maintained.
> JLine requires a terminal to be created and setup when the CommandSession
> is created and this step is not done by the remote shell bundle.
> If you want remote access, JLine provides good telnet and ssh support for
> incoming connections.
> For example if you start the main JLine demo which uses gogo, but outside
> OSGi, you can then run:
>   > telnetd start
> which starts the telnet daemon and you can then connect remotely.
>
> The commands are registered via a custom gosh_profile script which is
> executed when a gogo shell is created:
>
> https://github.com/jline/jline3/blob/master/demo/etc/gosh_profile#L151-L163
>
>