Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 25/03/2014 22:32, Dale Erwin a écrit : > Yes, but there is more to it than just the first word and the last word. > The first word is straightforward enough, except that sometimes it > might consist of more than just one word. But the last word does not > refer to the actual last word on the p

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Le 26/03/2014 04:48, Brian Barker a écrit : > > Your history as a programmer is relevant - but leads me to an opposite > conclusion. +1 Styles are another way of separating data and presentation which is a long standing programming mantra. A programmer should be interested in that. -- Jean-Fra

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Brian Barker
At 12:50 25/03/2014 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column of numbers (I've seen my students do that). This is s

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Brian Barker
At 09:33 25/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote: As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at that time], I have not learned how to do "styles". Never really needed it, as far as I was concerned. Your history as

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Brian Barker
At 06:24 25/03/2014 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: But what if someone *wanted* the formatting to be controlled by the sub document(s)? Then s/he should not be using a master document, which is surely meant for the situation in which control by the master document is desired? To incorporate se

Re: [libreoffice-users] conditional formatting broken?

2014-03-25 Thread Brian Barker
At 12:57 25/03/2014 +, Tom Davies wrote: On 23 March 2014 14:22, Tom Cloyd wrote: I'm using LO 4.2.1.1, on Kubuntu Linux 13.10 I just noticed that a big spreadsheet which has a number cells with a background whose color depends on the value of integer in the cell is all wrong. I tried res

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 5:32 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: Yes, but there is more to it than just the first word and the last word. The first word is straightforward enough, except that sometimes it might consist of more than just one word. But the last word does not refer to the actual last word on the page,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 5:34 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: How would you define a paragraph style to handle a dictionary entry such as this: *canuscere*/v.t./ to know, to be familiar with. I see my formatting was lost on that example. The headword "canuscere" would be in 11 pt. boldface, while the rest of t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Dale Erwin
On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: On 3/25/2014 1:55 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I imagine that there are, indeed, legitimate reasons why someone would want to control a master document through the sub-documents, but I would strongly suggest that before going that route, the user complete

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Dale Erwin
On 3/25/2014 3:34 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 3/25/2014 3:38 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: The only way I see possible to do this is to have a separate style for each page of the book. Otherwise, every header of every page within a particular style always has the same text and formatting. If you c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 3:38 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: The only way I see possible to do this is to have a separate style for each page of the book. Otherwise, every header of every page within a particular style always has the same text and formatting. If you change it on a succeeding page, all previous

Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress: how to set the "default" number of slides per page when printing handouts?

2014-03-25 Thread Stephan Petersen
Hi Karl, thanks for your reply, I meanwhile tried it and unfortunately it doesn't seem to work... :-( (I would have been surprised if it did, since switching to the handouts tab properly shows the 2-slide layout, as it's always been.) All the best, Stephan On 10.03.2014 15:09, Karl-Heinz Bel

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO4.2 pdf export embeds all fonts...

2014-03-25 Thread anne-ology
yes, I so agree with you; I too would really appreciate these added fonts to be used in any way. From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Date: Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO4.2 pdf export embeds all fonts... To: users@global.libreoffice.org On 0

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Dale Erwin
On 3/25/2014 1:55 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I imagine that there are, indeed, legitimate reasons why someone would want to control a master document through the sub-documents, but I would strongly suggest that before going that route, the user completely learns how to use the master documents

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Again, it's another advantage of OpenSource, or at least non-MS stuff. There is an entire eco-system of similar programs and suites that can all work on the same documents as each other but each provides for different niches, as well as all covering all the same middle-ground as each other.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 9:33 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at that time], I have not learned how to do "styles". Never really needed it, as far as I was concerned. Yes, ye

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] 离岸,公司注册R离岸,公司年审

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I tried translating it using a Machine Translator but just got an apparently random jumble of meaningless phrases. Looked like spam to me so i have avoided responding to the original poster so that they don't find out this is a valid email address and then deluge us with more spam. Regards f

Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress doesn't print in colour

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am wondering if you are printing to a machine that your OS thinks is a b&w one, or if you have somehow got just LibreOffice treating it as b&w or if it's just Impress being weird! So, which OS are you using? Windows Xp, Ubuntu, Mageia, one of the Macs? 1. Does the same problem happen whe

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't change digital certificate folder.

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This DOES sound like a bug to me! https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Regards from Tom :) On 24 March 2014 22:02, James Knott wrote: > I'm trying to configure LibreOffice to use digital certificates for > signing documents. Under Options>Security, There's a "Certificate" > but

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 or find them a programs or suite that does do things the mad way that they are looking for Regards from Tom :) On 25 March 2014 12:51, Virgil Arrington wrote: > > On 3/25/2014 8:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> But who is to say *your* method is better? I can definitely see situations >> wh

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 I didn't think i had time to learn styles either but found that just reading the first few paragraphs in the Published Guides took me about 10mins and immediately saved me at least 20mins, maybe an hour! I still don't know much about them but each time i learn a little more i find it save

Re: [libreoffice-users] conditional formatting broken?

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I thought it wasn't possible to set the back-ground colour according to a changing value within a cell. I didn't think MS Excel can do it either. For advanced spreadsheeting-fu i would turn to Gnumeric but i didn't think that could do it either! The closest i got was making negative number

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Dale Erwin
On 3/25/2014 12:19 PM, Toki wrote: On 3/24/2014 5:27 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >I'm wondering if there is a way to define a field as the first word on the page and the last word on the page (like in a dictionary). In the last decade, there have been roughly a dozen requests to various mailin

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 12:50 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column of numbers (I've seen my students do that). This is so not ev

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO4.2 pdf export embeds all fonts...PDF Orientation

2014-03-25 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky
I did some testing and see what you mean. When printing form Windows 7 to Ubuntu everything is fine. (What I usually do.) When printing form Ubuntu to itself, no luck (I use this very infrequently.) I believe Ghostscript is used to generate the PDF file in Debian based linux. It may be that t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Toki
On 3/24/2014 5:27 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >I'm wondering if there is a way to define a field as the first word on the page and the last word on the page (like in a dictionary). In the last decade, there have been roughly a dozen requests to various mailing lists for a feature along those li

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column of numbers (I've seen my students do that). This is so not even remotely reasonable analogy it really i

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Doug Essinger-Hileman
My apologies to Kracked, as I didn't pay attention and sent this note directly when I intended to send it to the list. On 3/25/2014 9:33 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Cley Faye
2014-03-25 14:33 GMT+01:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster < webmas...@krackedpress.com>: > I was taught K.I.S.S as a programmer, and I have not removed that idea in > my documents. ​A small comment on the KISS concept: "simple" does not necessarily mean minimalist, or immediately accessible, it can mea

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at that time], I have not learned how to do "styles". Never really needed it, as far as I was concerned. Yes, yes, I should learn it, but time to learn and play with

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 8:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: But who is to say *your* method is better? I can definitely see situations where someone would *want* the formatting from the subdocument to be applied, and vice versa. In many cases this is true, but if you take that too far... why provide the option t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/25/2014 8:23 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I suppose having options is generally a good thing, but I'd much rather create and change formatting in one master document than have to change and synchronize 20 or 30 subdocuments to make sure they all work together. Is it better to encourage peopl

[libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 3/25/2014 6:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: But what if someone *wanted* the formatting to be controlled by the sub document(s)? [snip] Having the option one way or another (the current way as default makes sense though) provides more control, no? I suppose having options is generally a goo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
I agree, Brian, that one generally need need to worry about style precision in subdocuments, since the master document controls the final output. That's the beauty of the master document process. It's almost LyX-like in its execution (what you see is what you /mean/). But, I sense that the way

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks :) yeh, my interpretation of what the "original poster" asked is that he is looking for exactly that. More like css than the sensible way it is done at the moment. Regards from Tom :) On 25 March 2014 10:24, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/24/2014 8:34 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: >> >> I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/24/2014 8:34 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I would think that would take away the benefit of a master document. By having the style controlled by one master document, you get consistent formatting throughout. If that could be disabled, you could have different chapters with different formatti