[libreoffice-users] Defined name CRLF(Newline) cell in Excel cannot be correctly imported

2014-08-10 Thread katsum
I often use defined name CRLF in Excel like below images. The formula is =CHAR(13) + CHAR(10). This method cannot be correctly imported from Excel to LibreOffice. Here are summarized images. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4118441/CRLF.png

[libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Owen Genat
TomD wrote The Doc, Xls, Ppt files all used to have this problem too but now that MS have stopped developing it so much and moved to developing their newer formats it's finally these older formats that ARE good for sharing between different programs. The old MS Binary specifications last had

[libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Owen Genat
Owen Genat wrote The old MS Binary specifications last had an update of significance (change in technical nature) on 2014-04-30 (XLS) and 2012-01-20 (DOC and PPT). Oops. I am already out of date. The DOC and XLSB specifications had a major update 2014-07-31. - Best wishes, Owen. -- View

[libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Pat Brown
Hi Guys, Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no current option then is it technically possible to do so? Paddy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Defined name CRLF(Newline) cell in Excel cannot be correctly imported

2014-08-10 Thread m.a.riosv
Hi @katsum, works for me as I think it must be expected, with: Win7x64, LibreOffice 4.2.6.5 / 4.2.7.2 / 4.3.0.4 / 4.3.1.0.0+ / 4.4.0.0.alpha0+ I don't remember any option to change this behavior, but maybe there is any. Try resetting the User Profile

[libreoffice-users] Re: Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Nino Novak
Pat, why do you need to split a cell? What data does it contain and what do you need to do with these data? Nino Am 10.08.2014 13:25, schrieb Pat Brown: Hi Guys, Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If

[libreoffice-users] Re: Defined name CRLF(Newline) cell in Excel cannot be correctly imported

2014-08-10 Thread katsum
Thanks for your reply. I have tried the User Profile matter, but it doesn't work. After that, I have found out the solution for this problem. Tools - Options - LibreOffice Calc - Formula -- Recalculation on file load - Excel 2007 and newer: Always recalculate (from Never recalculate) --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Pat Brown
Thanks Alan. I need to split a single cell and work with it as two cells (i.e. text as well as background and cell borders). Maybe the only way to do this is to merge two columns and then split the one cell that I need to work with. This is rather ham-fisted but may be the only solution. On 10

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Pat Brown
Nino, I am creating a geological time-line in Calc. Working across the sheet I am dividing the cells into periods. There are five different sets of periods. I find, after I have started, that I need to create smaller units than one cell. If I could split this cell it would work for me. Otherwise I

[libreoffice-users] Re: Defined name CRLF(Newline) cell in Excel cannot be correctly imported

2014-08-10 Thread m.a.riosv
Good, that you have found a solution. And thanks for share it. Miguel Ángel. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Defined-name-CRLF-Newline-cell-in-Excel-cannot-be-correctly-imported-tp4118441p4118470.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Errol Goetsch
On that note then, I'd like to record that as an ex-Excel guru and Office trainer, I am permanently delighted by the quality and stunned by the price of LibreOffice. There may be no such thing as a free lunch in Economics, but in the IT world, LO (and of course oOo) are the closest things to a

Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

2014-08-10 Thread Jim Seymour
On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:10:50 +0200 Errol Goetsch er...@xe4.org wrote: [snip] Thank you to the developers who have given so much to so many for so little. [snip] Hear, hear! Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server employs *very* aggressive anti-spam filtering. If you reply to this email and

Re: Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

2014-08-10 Thread J. Van Brimmer
+1 On Aug 10, 2014 7:19 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:10:50 +0200 Errol Goetsch er...@xe4.org wrote: [snip] Thank you to the developers who have given so much to so many for so little. [snip] Hear, hear! Regards, Jim -- Note: My mail server

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I didn't mean that Italo was wrong, just that it was possibly a bit geeky (and that wasn't a disadvantage because he put it so well). Where MS might be updating their doc, xls etc formats at least they have hopefully stopped doing different versions for different versions of their program.

Re: Thank You, Developers! (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?)

2014-08-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 Also a big thanks to everyone else who helps or has helped, especially those who seldom get any recognition. Regards from Tom :) On 10 August 2014 15:32, J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Aug 10, 2014 7:19 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Thu, 07 Aug

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker
At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote: Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no current option then is it technically possible to do so? This wouldn't really make sense. One of the principal

[libreoffice-users] Re: Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Nino Novak
Am 10.08.2014 15:10, schrieb Pat Brown: Nino, I am creating a geological time-line in Calc. Working across the sheet I am dividing the cells into periods. There are five different sets of periods. I find, after I have started, that I need to create smaller units than one cell. If I could split

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-10 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 10/08/14 03:01, Owen Genat wrote: Please refer my clarification to Italo's information up-thread. The Transitional and Strict formats are both defined in ISO/IEC 29500. In ISO/IEC 29500 there is only one transitional definition, while Microsoft has produced three different transitional

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Luuk
On 10 August 2014 14:20, Nino Novak nn.l...@kflog.org wrote: Pat, why do you need to split a cell? What data does it contain and what do you need to do with these data? Nino On 10-8-2014 15:10, Pat Brown wrote: Nino, I am creating a geological time-line in Calc. Working across the sheet

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote: Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an option. If there is no current option then

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire
On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Pat Brown mistyha...@gmail.com wrote: Nino, I am creating a geological time-line in Calc. Working across the sheet I am dividing the cells into periods. There are five different sets of periods. I find, after I have started, that I need to create smaller units

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Robert Funnell
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote: Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged' previously) cell? I can't seem to find such an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire
I havne't used Base, but I have taken a very complex spreadsheet and designed an SQL database from it when it became unwieldy. Key things I'd suggest, more tables is not bad, in fact the more the better if it clearly separates data into one table. Do not duplicate data. If you have a field

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Paul
Really good suggestions! On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:50:48 -0600 Oogie McGuire oog...@desertweyr.com wrote: Do not duplicate data. If you have a field whose contents are duplicated then that really probably needs to be a separate table. Yes, true. Note that if a field is duplicated, is suggests

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
So - I've started with the previous suggestions and am hesitant to change now (put in about 5 hours over the past couple days to learn by doing). Attached is what I have so far. It's pretty basic but just two tables (as you can see) and a form which I made to my likings. Suggestions

Re: [libreoffice-users] Split cells in Calc

2014-08-10 Thread Brian Barker
At 12:41 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:49 10/08/2014 -0400, Robert Funnell wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Brian Barker wrote: At 13:25 10/08/2014 +0200, Pat Brown wrote: Is there any way to split a primary (one that has not been 'merged'

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, So I went back to planning stage. Link to what I think might work - hoping to get the planning stage done today so I can start actually putting together the db - I have 3 days off so now's a good time for me to get the basic structure together :) Thanks in advance!

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread jomali
Joel, The NumberOfBooksByAuthor and ReadBooksByAuthor fields are unnecessary. They can be derived from a simple query for a report. Since there has to be a one-to-one relation between the ReadStatus table and the BookInformation table, you might as well merge them. When you do merge them, a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Mark Bourne
It looks like each book should only have one of the ReadStatus flags set, so I'd make that an enum field on the BookInformation table, with possible values of Not Read, Reading and Read. You can set the default value for the field to Not Read so a new record will be set to that status if no

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Paul
Hi Joel, On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:02:04 -0400 jomali jomali3...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, The NumberOfBooksByAuthor and ReadBooksByAuthor fields are unnecessary. They can be derived from a simple query for a report. Agreed. Since there has to be a one-to-one relation between the ReadStatus

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Paul
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:30:18 +0100 Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: It looks like each book should only have one of the ReadStatus flags set, so I'd make that an enum field on the BookInformation table, with possible values of Not Read, Reading and Read. You can

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-10 Thread Mark Bourne
Not sure; it's just a possibility to rule out. One possible explanation is that the seemingly stuck key doesn't have any effect in other applications you use. In Gnucash, Shift+Arrow keys or Shift+Click just moves the selection - the same as just pressing the arrow keys or clicking without

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
Thanks all - I have enough to do something - probably won't be perfect but will work for my needs. As for importing the data - not horribly concerned about this. Very worse case I'll manually enter which won't be too horrible in my case (really only about 250 entries to put in). More concerned

[libreoffice-users] Acess2Base

2014-08-10 Thread Jim Byrnes
I am still using the 3.xx version of LO that came with Ubuntu 12.04 and haven't been on the main LibreOffice site for some time. I've been reading the naming discussion (Fresh/Still etc) and decided to look at the site. While there I stumbled across Acces2Base. I've always thought writing

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Mark Bourne
Paul wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:30:18 +0100 Mark Bourne wrote: It looks like each book should only have one of the ReadStatus flags set, so I'd make that an enum field on the BookInformation table, with possible values of Not Read, Reading and Read. You can set the default value for the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire
On Aug 10, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: you wouldn't generally add or remove status options (and the application may assign special meaning to certain statuses, so it may be critical that a specific set of values is defined). Then again, in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire
On Aug 10, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Yeah, being able to change these values later is one of the main reasons to use a separate table. Clients almost *always* end up adding or removing some of these. Also, when you have specific functionality tied to some of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
Gah - I just realized that I think I have to separate date read from the book info. Reason being that if I read a book 2-3 times and want to track the dates then I have to have another table. With this, I'd do a one to many relationship between the book information and the read date tables,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Oogie McGuire
One reason to keep all the tables separate is to facilitate adding things to them later. Also localization for other languages and to keep entries exact so searches are easier to do. Solves issues with How did I spell that? problems in queries To my mind the only thing that belongs in a table

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Paul
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:48:31 -0600 Oogie McGuire oog...@desertweyr.com wrote: We agree G I think my comments passed yours in the mail. I hadn't done any relational database work until this current big project, thats why the database design book I recommended was so critical. It got me

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Paul
Hi Joel, On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:25 -0700 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Gah - I just realized that I think I have to separate date read from the book info. Reason being that if I read a book 2-3 times and want to track the dates then I have to have another table. With this, I'd

Re: [libreoffice-users] query ...

2014-08-10 Thread anne-ology
I apologize for taking your message the wrong way; and I thank you for this explanation. Friends :-) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Date: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query ... To:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Acess2Base

2014-08-10 Thread rost52
Thanks Jim for introducing this topic. A small company I know is using an ACCESS DB with macros exporting certain information into EXCEL spreadsheets. This ACCESS DB is currently preventing the company to change over from MSO to LibO and Linux. A 2 step approach is discussed: First to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
I decided to do the smart thing and diagram it out - the diagram isn't perfect (looks wise) but I hope that I can get a +1 before actually making the databases. Note: I decided to put rankings with date read table, this way I can have different rankings for the same book (for each instance

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread jonathon
On 8/10/2014 9:50 AM, Oogie McGuire wrote If I were doing your system I'd do the following: Book table Title number of pages Foreign key links to an authors table and a series table boolean read or not or else a link to a table read status see below Authors

[libreoffice-users] shortcut keys for LibreOffice under Linux

2014-08-10 Thread Thomas
Good morning I am trying for years already to get friendly with linux, but have not much luck with it. Right now, I am (again) experimenting. A new installation of (X)ubuntu 14.04 on two different machines comes with LibreOffice. However, the shortcut keys I am used to are different or

[libreoffice-users] Re: Acess2Base

2014-08-10 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 08/10/2014 08:02 PM, rost52 wrote: Thanks Jim for introducing this topic. A small company I know is using an ACCESS DB with macros exporting certain information into EXCEL spreadsheets. This ACCESS DB is currently preventing the company to change over from MSO to LibO and Linux. A 2 step

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread jonathon
On 8/10/2014 6:48 PM, Joel Madero wrote: I decided to do the smart thing and diagram it out Potential issues with the author field: Book One: Author A Author B; Book Two: Author B Author A; Book Three: Author A Author C. Author C is really Author B, but has had a name change; Book One,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
I'm not horribly worried about name changes ;) Best, Joel On 08/10/2014 07:21 PM, jonathon wrote: On 8/10/2014 6:48 PM, Joel Madero wrote: I decided to do the smart thing and diagram it out Potential issues with the author field: Book One: Author A Author B; Book Two: Author B Author

Re: [libreoffice-users] shortcut keys for LibreOffice under Linux

2014-08-10 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 10 August 2014 21:13, Thomas ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote: Good morning I am trying for years already to get friendly with linux, but have not much luck with it. Right now, I am (again) experimenting. A new installation of (X)ubuntu 14.04 on two different machines comes with LibreOffice.

Re: [libreoffice-users] What version?

2014-08-10 Thread jonathon
On 8/8/2014 11:15 AM, Pikov Andropov wrote: MSO 2013 is incompatible with itself I think he meant that MSO 2013 isn't fully compatible with MSO2010 o No. I meant that MSO 2013 is completely, utterly, and absolutely incompatible with MSO 2013. Likewise, MSO 2010 is completely,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Madero
Hey Jonathan, responded in line but the gist is - this is a hobby and I'm not going to spend hours and hours thinking about corner cases/etc... if a book has multiple authors, I'll pick one, if it belongs to multiple series, I'll pick one, if it's a spin off to a main series, I'll just track