Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-04 Thread Tom Davies
@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 11:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 If we have to beat Microsoft then we need to focus only on what Microsoft provides and not on .odt format, etc. We cannot beat Microsoft by introducing a new format and expecting customers

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-04 Thread Girvin R. Herr
Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 11:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 If we have to beat Microsoft then we need to focus only on what

OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
:) *From:* Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Brown
:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah Ok, I see, this is the same methodology I'm using. I generally turn off the swap file for a badly defragged drive, including any hibernation files etc

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Hi Tanstaafl Yes, a good choice, I forgot about UltraDefrag. Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:26 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Someone had asked about a free/FOSS

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Brown
Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to you as well as the list Regards Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 01:51 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Please don't send to me directly, I'm on the list. Thanks On 2013-08-01 7:44 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Hi

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
And you did it again. Best is to use an email client that actually supports Reply-To-List (like Thunderbird). On 2013-08-01 8:11 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied to all. I must have replied directly to you as well as the list Regards Andrew Brown

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
: Thursday, 1 August 2013, 13:36 Subject: Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 And you did it again. Best is to use an email client that actually supports Reply-To-List (like Thunderbird). On 2013-08-01 8:11 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Apologies Tanstaafl, I replied

Re: OT: Defraggers...Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Brown
Heh! Heh! yes force of habit clicking Reply All when I see multiple names, instead of Reply to list as I have done now, and I do use Thunderbird :-P Andrew Brown On 01/08/2013 02:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: And you did it again. Best is to use an email client that actually supports

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Andrew Brown
:) From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 29 July 2013, 20:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 I certainly hope the primary motive for FOSS

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
2013, 11:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Amit Your knowledge of the document standards is limited by your reply here. This issue of the document standards and naming convention was covered by a world body of multinationals and the preservation of all things in human digital text etc

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 8:48 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Interesting post. Agree, sometimes these software wars becomes irksome, as my late mother and father used to say and raised us with this motto how do you know you don't like it if you have not tried

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Andrew Brown
...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 8:48 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Interesting post. Agree, sometimes these software wars becomes irksome, as my late mother and father used to say and raised us

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Tom Davies
:)  From: Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah Ok, I see, this is the same methodology I'm using. I generally

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-31 Thread Andrew Brown
:) *From:* Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org *Sent:* Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 23:01 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi Tom Ah Ok, I see, this is the same methodology I'm using. I generally

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-30 Thread Andrew Brown
Agreed Paul Amit, sn increasing or high revenue stream can indicate that the prices of the saleable goods have increased (and in my country a fact, up 30% on software and hardware in the last three months), currency fluctuations and exchange rates between source manufacturing country and

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
...@hotmail.com To: Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 29 July 2013, 20:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 I certainly hope the primary motive for FOSS such as LO is not a disdain for MS. I personally don't care how much money

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-30 Thread Tom Davies
contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com To: Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za Cc: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; la10...@iperbole.bologna.it; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 29 July 2013, 9:33 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Amit Choudhary
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Amit Your knowledge of the document standards is limited by your reply here. This issue of the document standards and naming convention was covered by a world body of multinationals and the preservation of all things in

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Amit Choudhary
I too am an end user and not a developer. From my perspective it is not at all difficult to generally keep up to date with the latest software (although the 4.1. desktop-integration thing threw me for a while). All new releases are clearly badged: don't use on production machines. So don't

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Amit I understand where you are coming from, and the good news is, in your favour, that MS in both it's O/S and office suite are losing market share in a big way. Here's an article from Ubuntu founder and my countryman Mark Shuttelworth on his take on MS and Ubuntu. I like his statement

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Amit Choudhary
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Hi Amit I understand where you are coming from, and the good news is, in your favour, that MS in both it's O/S and office suite are losing market share in a big way. Here's an article from Ubuntu founder and my

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Amit Choudhary
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: Hi Amit I understand where you are coming from, and the good news is, in your favour, that MS in both it's O/S and office

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Paul
Hi Amit, Revenues and profits (and shares for that matter), are not the same as market share. Just because revenue is increasing, doesn't mean they aren't losing market share. If they are losing market share, it just means their revenue isn't increasing as much as it could be. So I'm not sure

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Virgil Arrington
for productive action. Virgil -Original Message- From: Amit Choudhary Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:47 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread sun shine
On 29/07/13 20:30, Virgil Arrington wrote: I certainly hope the primary motive for FOSS such as LO is not a disdain for MS. I personally don't care how much money MS makes. I hope the LO developers are motivated by a desire to produce a great product that can be used worldwide. Hatred usually

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-28 Thread sun shine
On 27/07/13 17:28, Ernie Kurtz wrote: Hi Amit and Paul and . . . I am just an ordinary user -- historian by training, academic researcher in medicine by profession. I, and most with whom I work and come into contact, wish for, hope for, and strongly prefer stable releases in a work

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-28 Thread Andrew Brown
:) From: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening). thanks anyway for developers work, I remember this is a free sw, at the end

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
:) From: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening). thanks anyway for developers work, I

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
Hi Paul, Please find my answers below. Regards, Amit On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Hi Amit, While your CV is impressive, this is still just your opinion. For open source software, it seems that this isn't true. Release early and release often is a

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening). thanks anyway for developers work, I

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Walther Koehler
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening). thanks

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
:) From: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Virgil Arrington
Amit wrote: The main problem here is that the user does not know wheher the next release is more stable than previous one or not. And the user will get caught in the conflict in the sense that he will think that may be if he does not upgrade then he might be losing out on some features. This

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
Hi Virgil, Just to comment on one aspect: It appears to me as if, with LO, we users are doing the testing that commercial companies do in-house. Well, yes, kind of. You see, the open source world doesn't have lots of paid developers to do this sort of testing, so it does in part rely on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Ernie Kurtz
:) From: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
A customer can compromise on fetaures but not on stability Actually, from what I've gathered from this list, it seems the problems half the time are new features that users want, and half the time bugs. Well, maybe not exactly a 50-50 split, but still. Yes, there are a few complaints about

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com wrote: A customer can compromise on fetaures but not on stability Actually, from what I've gathered from this list, it seems the problems half the time are new features that users want, and half the time

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 3:35 Subject: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi, I was using 4.0.2 and then I downloaded 4.0.3 but 4.0.3 is not as stable as 4.0.2. So, now I am downloading 4.0.4. I am more interested in stable and feature rich (optional) software rather than frequently released

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread la10497
contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 3:35 Subject: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi, I was using 4.0.2 and then I downloaded 4.0.3 but 4.0.3 is not as stable as 4.0.2. So, now I am downloading 4.0.4. I am

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
:) From: Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 3:35 Subject: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Hi, I was using 4.0.2 and then I downloaded

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected...     I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4

[libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-25 Thread Amit Choudhary
Hi, I was using 4.0.2 and then I downloaded 4.0.3 but 4.0.3 is not as stable as 4.0.2. So, now I am downloading 4.0.4. I am more interested in stable and feature rich (optional) software rather than frequently released software. Stablility is very important because a non-stable software /

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-13 Thread Tom Davies
2013, 2:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI Here is the error I got when I tried to install 4.0.3 on an Ubuntu 13.04 with MATE de. I installed the files without errors till I got to the desktop-integration part. Here

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-10 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
YES, it works for you but I am not using Unity. How many users with MATE are having the same issues? Do anyone using KDE or the other desktop have any issues. I know that there has been work done to make the DEB install work properly with Unity. Has there been any work to make sure it works as

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-10 Thread Joel Madero
On 05/10/2013 07:05 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: YES, it works for you but I am not using Unity. How many users with MATE are having the same issues? Do anyone using KDE or the other desktop have any issues. Honestly in this case it's unlikely that the DE is the issue as this is really

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-10 Thread Don C. Myers
Hopefully there are some folks out there who are using the other desktops who can help you and give you some feedback. I don't know anybody who is using them to check with. Sorry. On 05/10/2013 10:05 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: YES, it works for you but I am not using Unity. How many

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-10 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Here is the error I got when I tried to install 4.0.3 on an Ubuntu 13.04 with MATE de. I installed the files without errors till I got to the desktop-integration part. Here is the listing from the terminal.

[libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I has setup. The Windows install did not do this. Any idea way the 64-bit DEB install in Ubuntu 12.04 would remove my added items, but Windows did not? I do not know if it is a bug, or not.

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/09/2013 03:40 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I has setup. The Windows install did not do this. Any idea way the 64-bit DEB install in Ubuntu 12.04 would remove my added items, but

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Tim Lloyd
Fedora 18. Previous version 4.0.2.2. tar.gz downloaded via bit torrent from website. All good On 05/10/2013 07:16 AM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/09/2013 03:40 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 05/09/2013 05:16 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/09/2013 03:40 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I has setup. The Windows install did not do this. Any idea way the 64-bit DEB install in Ubuntu

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Don Myers
Hi, I installed LO 4.0.3.3 on two machines running Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity today. I always download LO from the LO site, extract it to the desktop, and then run the following commands in the terminal: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I extract them to the /home folder then rename it to Lib then I cd Lib cd DEBS then sudo dpkg -i *.deb I tend to not run an command on a folder that I am not in. I learned that in my mainframe days as a safety feature. So far, I have installed it on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 with MATE

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-09 Thread Don Myers
I installed LO 4.0.3.3 tonight on a third computer, also with Ubuntu 13.04 and with Unity. No problems there either. On 05/09/2013 08:19 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I extract them to the /home folder then rename it to Lib then I cd Lib cd DEBS then sudo dpkg -i *.deb I

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Davies
Tom :)  From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 3:25 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI I installed LO 4.0.3.3 tonight on a third