On 02/14/2012 08:20 AM, noibs wrote:
I just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.4.4. There are no page margins visible for my
Writer documents last saved in 3.4.4. Am I missing something? I've looked
for a preference and can't find one. I'm using Mac OS 10.7.3.
I've opened a bug report regarding the
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
The place where to bring questions to the devs has to be a visible
and accessible place.
[...]
I guess there's some work to be done to resolve those two points.
Hi Jean-Francois,
not necessarily - what would be equally workable is a group of
change agents
Hallo Thorsten ,
A agree, i also looked over the possible problems with no margins for a
page, but there was no communication over the column margins. Like i
sayed before there are workarounds for the page margins, but working
with columns and pictures covering more than 1 column becomes
Hi Thorsten,
Le 17/02/2012 10:24, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
The place where to bring questions to the devs has to be a visible
and accessible place.
[...]
I guess there's some work to be done to resolve those two points.
not necessarily - what would be
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
What bothers me the more on the users lists (FR is the same for that
matter) is the recurring motto Regina sang: discussing here will
not make it appear.
Hi Jean-Francois,
well, but it's true - *someone* would need to carry the discussion
to the relevant list,
3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
To: Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 9:26
Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
What bothers me the more on the users lists (FR is the same for that
matter
Hi Tom,
Le 16/02/2012 10:49, Tom Davies a écrit :
Regina gives good advice even if it's not always what you
want to hear. In general i find that acting on Regina's advice gets
the job done.
I don't question Regina's answers which I always appreciate. I question
*this specific* answer I
Hi Thorsten,
thanks for your answer.
Le 16/02/2012 10:26, Thorsten Behrens a écrit :
well, but it's true - *someone* would need to carry the discussion
to the relevant list, see below. I would be very surprised if this
is different in any other free software project of this size.
Sure.
Regina ,
True for page layouts, but simple try a multiple column layout and try
to position a picture (anchored to the page)
The column boundaries are also gone.
Greetz
Fernand
Hi noibs,
noibs schrieb:
[..]
I'm a college professor who writes his own teaching materials. Each
course
Hi Fernand,
Fernand Vanrie schrieb:
Regina ,
True for page layouts, but simple try a multiple column layout and try
to position a picture (anchored to the page)
The column boundaries are also gone.
If you anchor a picture to page, then the reference is the page not a
column. Anchoring to a
Regina ,
You cut a few corners here, see my remarks inside
Hi Fernand,
Fernand Vanrie schrieb:
Regina ,
True for page layouts, but simple try a multiple column layout and try
to position a picture (anchored to the page)
The column boundaries are also gone.
If you anchor a picture to
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 14:37 +0100, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
Regina ,
You cut a few corners here, see my remarks inside
Hi Fernand,
Fernand Vanrie schrieb:
Regina ,
True for page layouts, but simple try a multiple column layout and try
to position a picture (anchored to the page)
Dan ,
Thanks for the tip , page boundary's are a minnor problem , having no
COLUMN boundaries can not been worked around
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 14:37 +0100, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
Regina ,
You cut a few corners here, see my remarks inside
Hi Fernand,
Fernand Vanrie schrieb:
Regina ,
I can understand eliminating visible margins for people who desire that...but
why not make it a preference setting? Yes, I already thought of either
using a colored background or a border around my writable area, but those
things print. That's what I'll probably do, but it's a kludge that should
Meant to say a kludge that should NOT be necessary.
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Hi noibs,
noibs schrieb:
[..]
I'm a college professor who writes his own teaching materials. Each course
features roughly a 400-page Writer document that contains a variety of
inline graphical objects created in Draw or Calc and then pasted in as a GDI
Metafile. Usually, I need to resize
I have no illusions that I'm going to win this argument; however, I use the
visible margins in two ways:
1. When deciding when to add a manual page break, I need to exactly how far
until the end of the main page, excluding the space occupied by the footer.
Let's say I'm getting ready to begin a
Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far. I have five really
large (400+) page documents that I'm constantly revising and that are only
printed once or twice a year.
First, I've set my default page style to include a very thin (0.02 pt wide)
light gray border around the entire
Hi noibs,
noibs schrieb:
I have no illusions that I'm going to win this argument; however, I use the
visible margins in two ways:
1. When deciding when to add a manual page break, I need to exactly how far
until the end of the main page, excluding the space occupied by the footer.
Let's say
Regina,
Please explain why this change is better? How does it make users more
efficient? I now have to hover to see the header/footer line. How is that
faster than it was before? How many word processors that offer decent
layout capabilities DON'T offer an option to actually see the page
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On 12-02-14 02:36 PM, noibs wrote:
Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far.
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You could also enable the grid:
Tools Options LibreOffice Writer Grid Visible Grid
I'd consider the lack of an option to make the actual margins
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On 2/14/2012 4:02 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
You could also enable the grid:
Yeah, the grid does work for this purpose, which is why I haven't rolled
back to 3.4.5. But the margin lines were so much nicer!
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Steven Shelton
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Le 14/02/2012 21:59, noibs a écrit :
Please explain why this change is better? How does it make users more
efficient? I now have to hover to see the header/footer line. How is that
faster than it was before? How many word processors that offer decent
layout capabilities DON'T offer an
One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade of gray or some color to the background of the page. It
will include the main page, header and footer. Then, if you haven't already
done it, set your printing preferences in Writer to not print
Le 15/02/2012 00:25, noibs a écrit :
One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade of gray or some color to the background of the page. It
will include the main page, header and footer. Then, if you haven't already
done it, set your printing
noibs...@me.com wrote:
From: noibs noibs...@me.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 23:25
One more workaround that seems to have the least drawbacks for me is to apply
a very light shade
On 02/14/2012 11:17 AM, noibs wrote:
...
Frankly, I view the elimination of visible margins as part of the dumbing
down of user interfaces that I'm seeing in Mac OS Lion, Ubuntu 11.10, and
now LO. It's the let's make it pretty to look at even if if compromises
the usefulness school of
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