On 03/26/2014 03:06 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 2014-03-27 03:06, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 03/25/2014 11:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
At 09:33 25/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since
On 3/27/2014 8:02 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
Then there is the compatibility issues of making a document with LO
styles and then saving it as a .doc or .docx file format with MSO
users taking that file[s] and modifying it and sending it back to you
and your LO Writer to do more edits.
Le 26/03/2014 04:48, Brian Barker a écrit :
Your history as a programmer is relevant - but leads me to an opposite
conclusion.
+1
Styles are another way of separating data and presentation which is a
long standing programming mantra. A programmer should be interested in that.
--
Hi, Tom and others.
I am finding this discussion to be intellectually stimulating though I have no
idea as to the mechanics involved in developing or using master documents.
What you write about saving time is most likely very true. However I have
probably never written a document with more
On 3/26/2014 6:08 AM, James E Lang wrote:
Hi, Tom and others.
I am finding this discussion to be intellectually stimulating though I have no
idea as to the mechanics involved in developing or using master documents.
What you write about saving time is most likely very true. However I have
On 03/25/2014 11:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
At 09:33 25/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at
that time], I have not learned how to do styles. Never really
needed it,
At 10:06 26/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
Your coding statement[s] seem to suggest Object Orientated Programming.
No: that's a straw man. What I said applies to programming generally
(as someone else has confirmed).
... in any of the mainframe languages I learned or used.
Your
Perhaps, we could get folks past the Underwood model if office suites
stopped offering that as a legitimate option for creating typeset
documents.
*Proper* document processing software should indeed *enforce* total
separation of structure(d content) and style information through
*exclusive*,
Hi :)
I wish MS had got that memo! Sadly that seems to be the opposite of
MS's view. So people have learned to;
1. need to keep a print-out as hard copy
2. assume every document to be unsable in 3 years time
3. fight hard against any change or upgrade because they know it will
break their
On 2014-03-27 01:54, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 3/26/2014 6:08 AM, James E Lang wrote:
Hi, Tom and others.
I am finding this discussion to be intellectually stimulating though
I have no idea as to the mechanics involved in developing or using
master documents.
What you write about saving
On 2014-03-27 03:06, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 03/25/2014 11:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
At 09:33 25/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at
that time], I have
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 3/26/2014 6:08 AM, James E Lang wrote:
Hi, Tom and others.
I am finding this discussion to be intellectually stimulating though I have
no idea as to the mechanics involved in developing or using master documents.
What you write about saving
Hi :)
Actually i find even then styles help quite a bit. I don't use Master
Documents or sub-documents yet but the basics help.
For the new document you can;
1. right-click on the style, such as text-body (although i think
it might be better to create a new one by copying that to a new name)
Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 3/25/2014 5:34 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
How would you define a paragraph style to handle a dictionary entry
such as this:
*canuscere*/v.t./ to know, to be familiar with.
I see my formatting was lost on that example. The headword
canuscere would be in 11 pt.
On 3/26/2014 6:15 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
Virgil Arrington wrote:
Quite honestly, I rarely use character styles, but in this case where
you're changing two characteristics (9 points to 11 and normal weight to
boldface), the character style would help ensure consistency throughout
the document.
On 3/25/2014 8:23 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I suppose having options is generally a good thing, but I'd much rather
create and change formatting in one master document than have to change
and synchronize 20 or 30 subdocuments to make sure they all work
together. Is it
On 3/25/2014 8:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
But who is to say *your* method is better? I can definitely see
situations where someone would *want* the formatting from the
subdocument to be applied, and vice versa.
In many cases this is true, but if you take that too far... why
provide the option
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned programming
on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at that time], I
have not learned how to do styles. Never really needed it, as far as
I was concerned. Yes, yes, I should learn it, but time to learn and
play with
2014-03-25 14:33 GMT+01:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster
webmas...@krackedpress.com:
I was taught K.I.S.S as a programmer, and I have not removed that idea in
my documents.
A small comment on the KISS concept: simple does not necessarily mean
minimalist, or immediately accessible, it can mean
My apologies to Kracked, as I didn't pay attention and sent this note
directly when I intended to send it to the list.
On 3/25/2014 9:33 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not
On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into
cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column
of numbers (I've seen my students do that).
This is so not even remotely
On 3/25/2014 12:50 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into
cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column
of numbers (I've seen my students do
Hi :)
+1
I didn't think i had time to learn styles either but found that just
reading the first few paragraphs in the Published Guides took me about
10mins and immediately saved me at least 20mins, maybe an hour! I
still don't know much about them but each time i learn a little more i
find it
Hi :)
+1
or find them a programs or suite that does do things the mad way that
they are looking for
Regards from
Tom :)
On 25 March 2014 12:51, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
On 3/25/2014 8:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
But who is to say *your* method is better? I can definitely see
On 3/25/2014 9:33 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at
that time], I have not learned how to do styles. Never really
needed it, as far as I was concerned. Yes,
Hi :)
Again, it's another advantage of OpenSource, or at least non-MS stuff.
There is an entire eco-system of similar programs and suites that can
all work on the same documents as each other but each provides for
different niches, as well as all covering all the same middle-ground
as each other.
On 3/25/2014 1:55 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I imagine that there are, indeed, legitimate reasons why someone would
want to control a master document through the sub-documents, but I
would strongly suggest that before going that route, the user
completely learns how to use the master
On 3/25/2014 2:55 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
On 3/25/2014 1:55 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I imagine that there are, indeed, legitimate reasons why someone
would want to control a master document through the sub-documents,
but I would strongly suggest that before going that route, the user
On 3/25/2014 5:34 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
How would you define a paragraph style to handle a dictionary entry
such as this:
*canuscere*/v.t./ to know, to be familiar with.
I see my formatting was lost on that example. The headword
canuscere would be in 11 pt. boldface, while the rest of
At 09:33 25/03/2014 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
As a person who learned to type on a typewriter and learned
programming on a mainframe computer [since the PC did not exist at
that time], I have not learned how to do styles. Never really
needed it, as far as I was concerned.
Your history as
At 12:50 25/03/2014 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers
into cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up
the column of numbers (I've seen my students do that).
This is
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