[libreoffice-users] OT: Error in list headers
The list headers include this line: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:users+h...@libreoffice.org Instead of +help it should be +unsubscribe -- Jim --On Monday, May 30, 2011 01:32:19 PM -0400 Richard rich...@hornick.us wrote: I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. --8== -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Richard rich...@hornick.us wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed -- Zed COMPUTER LITERACY? You mean my computer can READ?! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization
On 31 May 2011 02:39, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Can I port over the OO user profile info to LO? In your case, it is enough to move/copy this file user/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Accelerators.xcu so smthing as user/registry/data/org/libreoffice/Office/. Many thanks, Cor. Problem solved. I'll be back, no doubt. g ### -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Thanks. I do have a way to specify these messages as JUNK, and not even open them, BUT, they are still downloaded before being rejected as junk, so I get all this garbage going thru my system before the being dumped into the trash. $*#@** You get the idea. Thanks for your input, Roland. Richard -Original Message- From: Roland Hughes [mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:23 PM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Richard, If actual IT professionals set up the server correctly, you send a COMPLETELY EMPTY MESSAGE to users+h...@libreoffice.org No SIG files, no subject, no message body. Given the organization of the Web site, and those genetic miss-fits from management that hang out here and speak directly out their rectal orifice without even the tiniest shred of knowledge...I would not be surprised to find out that doesn't work either. Management = genetic miss-fits promoted to their level of inability. Of course, you email system ought to provide a Web interface. Open your browser without your email client being opened and go to that Web page. Find messages from Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org and flag them as junk mail. Do this on the server via the Web interface and it will stop gigs of useless bits from attempting to come down your dial up connection. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:31 -0400, Richard wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. rich...@hornick.us -Original Message- From: Joep L. Blom [mailto:jlb...@neuroweave.nl] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:19 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: Roland Hughes Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken On 30/05/11 15:58, Roland Hughes wrote: Joep, Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a whole lot of trouble for doing it. Now, people who once got paid for writing a program or use Microsoft products may well have different opinions since their not the ones working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies. There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't read then denying things were said. Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) to jump into the conversation at any point. I wouldn't even be on this list had the Web site been designed by software professionals instead of whoever was used. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 12:05 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: On 30/05/11 08:45, Roland Hughes wrote: Neither bottom nor interleaved posting methods are used by professional IT workers. Microsoft developers yes, but not professionals. Sigh! Roland your remark is utter nonsens. Many lists courteously request to bottom post but also request clipping. Professional IT workers remove unnecessary wording from replies and adhere to courteously requested rules. Joep Roland, Permit me to disagree. If you need E-mails for court representation it is best to furnish the original E-mails not the parts of text in answers to E-mails. You answer the relevant portions of an E-mail as the originator has the original text. I don't think a court will accept the umptieth repeat of an original E-mail. But I live in the Netherlands and I have no idea how convoluted American lawyers and justices actually reason. Well, that goes for Dutch members of that kind also. It is a breed that I, as a simple scientist, not understand so therefore your reasoning might be right. Joep -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
I'm getting tired of these Linux versus Windows discussions. Let's say that both platforms have their advantages and their disadvantages. So far the discussions here haven't produced much useful information. As for stability. On my systems OpenOffice is much more stable than LibreOffice. I don't care if software is free or not, it needs to be able to do the job. In the past I have bought versions of StarOffice. I write a lot of papers with many formulas inside it. The better way to do this is using OpenOffice/LibreOffice. Best regards, John Bijnens On 31/05/2011 5:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 05/30/2011 08:16 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 31/05/11 1:45 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 05/30/2011 08:38 AM, Gianluca Turconi wrote: Hello Alex, In data 30 maggio 2011 alle ore 11:41:51, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ultimately, it is not merely the remarks that Michael made, that I may, or may not, have misinterpreted. As I mentioned, it transpires from other mailing lists, the dev irc channel, the bug reports, the decisions to consider any given bug as a stopper or not. I've lurked this specific argument in the dev/steering discuss/French mailing lists when you were commenting Meeks's statement. Now, I'm working with other people on this project: http://www.mail-archive.com/projects@libreoffice.org/msg00241.html During a lengthy and indeed very interesting discussion with Italo Vignoli, Andrea Pescetti and others in the Italian discuss mailing list (for people who knows Italian: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@it.libreoffice.org/msg00104.html ) , I finally wondered: will the relashionship between the Community LibO *product* and the commercially supported ones (Novell/Canonical/Red Hat/put-here-your-preferred-corporation) be like the relationship between Fedora Project Linux, a cutting edge and less stable version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, a very solid and corporate oriented linux distribution based on Fedora? I haven't a sure answer yet, but Andrea Pescetti pointed me to these Meeks messages: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/011424.html http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-April/011153.html and to the extremely important Breathing Master discussion here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/thread.html Those comments and discussions + yours + the relatively scarce news I know about the LibO/TDF new business model based on paid certification for support corporation, let me think that a Community Libo cutting edge product is here to stay and may be a part of that business model. Well, *if* it's so, I'm simply not happy of such solution. It creates a viable open ecosystem around LibO, for sure, but undermines the proverbial rock solid stability I always experienced in OOo. Just my 2 eurocents, of course. ;-) Regards, Gianluca I am no longer a programmer, but as a former business programmer: Make ALL functions work as advertised! I had to make every option work properly and exactly like it was wanted, or I get bad news from my bosses. I even had to do such exact validation of input, I had to figure out every possible value that would be used as input for the entered fields. That is easy for things like date and time but not so easy with number values. But I was expected to have it completely working the first time it is use and every time it is used. So we need to have a very stable package, and then need to have a cutting edge package off that, for those users who want to choose. The issues with Impress that have been reported in the lists make me wonder about what is in the package that makes it work sometimes and not on others. Those type of on/off issues are hard to predict and test for. I know that there are people out there scratching their heads trying to figure out what is the problem area of the code that need to be fixed. But it will be fixed in due course. I have not tried RC2, but I am told there are a lot of fixes and new stuff in that version. As a cutting edge product, we keep adding new and better features the product. As a stable product, people keep fixing the issues till everything that can be fixed is fixed before the new options are added. Most business models, that do not deal with money or critical data, tend to be somewhere in the middle between those two product development styles. As an Open Source software package, any business development team can do their own work to fix issues that come up with their use of the package. What I would like to see is a dialog between those business people and the people who are working on LibreOffice for TDF/LO. This would need to be a two way dialog that lets TDF know what issues are out there and what they have done [or want done], and then have TDF people respond about what is being done on their end. That way if there is a fix already made, the business people
Re: unsubscribing (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation)
On 31/05/11 07:22, Zed wrote: Richardrich...@hornick.us wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed Which may not be most helpful. The confirmation email I still have states: Welcome! You have been subscribed to the users@libreoffice.org mailinglist. To unsubscribe send a message to: users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org ^ And for help send a message to: users+h...@libreoffice.org And, to the OP, if you put your request inside another thread with an unchanged subject, it'll get missed. If you start a new thread with a suitable subject line you'll get more folk's attention. And simply saying without success won't help anyone diagnose possible problems - /exactly how/ did you try to unsubscribe? What happened (or not) as a result? -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: unsubscribing (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation)
Hi :) The first email is meant to be informative and show many options, not just for unsubscribing but for many other functions. The part about how to unsubscribe is this bit To unsubscribe send a message to: users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org So, to unsubscribe try sending an email to users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org Notice that the users+ part at thte beginning is an important part of the address but in some email clients it gets treated differently from the rest of the address, ie not blue and underlined. It doesn't matter what, if anything, is in the subject-line and it doesn't need anything in the contents of the email either. Note that when you send an email to that address you get a proper confirmation email which sometimes gets thrown out by spam filters. I hope that helps! Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 8:34:14 Subject: Re: unsubscribing (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation) On 31/05/11 07:22, Zed wrote: Richardrich...@hornick.us wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. The following appears at the bottom of every post you receive. Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Zed Which may not be most helpful. The confirmation email I still have states: Welcome! You have been subscribed to the users@libreoffice.org mailinglist. To unsubscribe send a message to: users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org ^ And for help send a message to: users+h...@libreoffice.org And, to the OP, if you put your request inside another thread with an unchanged subject, it'll get missed. If you start a new thread with a suitable subject line you'll get more folk's attention. And simply saying without success won't help anyone diagnose possible problems - /exactly how/ did you try to unsubscribe? What happened (or not) as a result? -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiple selection in a validity range (Calc)
Hi :) We can't see inside the zip file unless we register at the Excel forum. You could have a text cell list various chosen cells such as '=A1, B3, A2, C6, A4, B1 as randomly or ordered as you like. You can also have nested IF statements so that if A1=3 it would go on to check to see if B3=4 or whatever. But i think you are asking something slightly different? Regards from Tom :) From: alesarrett alessandro.sarre...@inwind.it To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 8:06:02 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Multiple selection in a validity range (Calc) Dear users, I'd like to have a validation cell accepting multiple items from a cell range, to have as a result, a list of item separated by a comma. Having as cell range 1 2 3 4 I'd like to be able to select from the validation cell, e.g. 2 and 3 and to have as a result 2,3 Is there a way to do this? Are there plans to include multiple selection in the validity tool? Are there any macro around that I could use to start from? Trying to find inspiration, I found this similar example in excel: http://www.excelforum.com/excel-general/646619-select-multiple-criteria-via-data-validation.html Is it easy to reproduce and customize in calc? Thank you for any hint. Ale -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Multiple-selection-in-a-validity-range-Calc-tp3004869p3004869.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 2011-05-30 6:08 PM, Tom Davies wrote: If rules are set-up to alienate new users then i think they are worth ignoring. Your attitude is why many people look on your posts with disdain, Tom. It also sets up a false premise. The rule is not set up to alienate new users, and as long as people are simply *and* *politely* pointed to the rules, new users should *not* be offended when this is pointed out to them, and the vast majority *would* not be offended - exceptions being people like you... It is not acceptable to blindly follow orders or rules that cause harm or are ridiculous. Another false premise... the posting guidelines do not cause harm and are not ridiculous - in fact, when properly followed, they cause *goodness*... What *is* ridiculous and *does* cause harm is when people intentionally misrepresent them in order to support their own predilection for laziness - like you have been doing since this subject first came up. If TDF set a rule that said that all users must walk backwards would you obey it? Would you berate people that didn't follow it? No, and no, but of course, your comparison is about as appropriate as comparing someone who kills a mosquito that is pestering them to a child rapist/murderer. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
On 31/05/11 7:27 PM, John Bijnens wrote: I'm getting tired of these Linux versus Windows discussions. Let's say that both platforms have their advantages and their disadvantages. So far the discussions here haven't produced much useful information. As for stability. On my systems OpenOffice is much more stable than LibreOffice. I don't care if software is free or not, it needs to be able to do the job. In the past I have bought versions of StarOffice. I write a lot of papers with many formulas inside it. The better way to do this is using OpenOffice/LibreOffice. Best regards, John Bijnens On 31/05/2011 5:10, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 05/30/2011 08:16 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 31/05/11 1:45 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 05/30/2011 08:38 AM, Gianluca Turconi wrote: Hello Alex, In data 30 maggio 2011 alle ore 11:41:51, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ultimately, it is not merely the remarks that Michael made, that I may, or may not, have misinterpreted. As I mentioned, it transpires from other mailing lists, the dev irc channel, the bug reports, the decisions to consider any given bug as a stopper or not. I've lurked this specific argument in the dev/steering discuss/French mailing lists when you were commenting Meeks's statement. Now, I'm working with other people on this project: http://www.mail-archive.com/projects@libreoffice.org/msg00241.html During a lengthy and indeed very interesting discussion with Italo Vignoli, Andrea Pescetti and others in the Italian discuss mailing list (for people who knows Italian: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@it.libreoffice.org/msg00104.html ) , I finally wondered: will the relashionship between the Community LibO *product* and the commercially supported ones (Novell/Canonical/Red Hat/put-here-your-preferred-corporation) be like the relationship between Fedora Project Linux, a cutting edge and less stable version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, a very solid and corporate oriented linux distribution based on Fedora? I haven't a sure answer yet, but Andrea Pescetti pointed me to these Meeks messages: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/011424.html http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-April/011153.html and to the extremely important Breathing Master discussion here: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-May/thread.html Those comments and discussions + yours + the relatively scarce news I know about the LibO/TDF new business model based on paid certification for support corporation, let me think that a Community Libo cutting edge product is here to stay and may be a part of that business model. Well, *if* it's so, I'm simply not happy of such solution. It creates a viable open ecosystem around LibO, for sure, but undermines the proverbial rock solid stability I always experienced in OOo. Just my 2 eurocents, of course. ;-) Regards, Gianluca I am no longer a programmer, but as a former business programmer: Make ALL functions work as advertised! I had to make every option work properly and exactly like it was wanted, or I get bad news from my bosses. I even had to do such exact validation of input, I had to figure out every possible value that would be used as input for the entered fields. That is easy for things like date and time but not so easy with number values. But I was expected to have it completely working the first time it is use and every time it is used. So we need to have a very stable package, and then need to have a cutting edge package off that, for those users who want to choose. The issues with Impress that have been reported in the lists make me wonder about what is in the package that makes it work sometimes and not on others. Those type of on/off issues are hard to predict and test for. I know that there are people out there scratching their heads trying to figure out what is the problem area of the code that need to be fixed. But it will be fixed in due course. I have not tried RC2, but I am told there are a lot of fixes and new stuff in that version. As a cutting edge product, we keep adding new and better features the product. As a stable product, people keep fixing the issues till everything that can be fixed is fixed before the new options are added. Most business models, that do not deal with money or critical data, tend to be somewhere in the middle between those two product development styles. As an Open Source software package, any business development team can do their own work to fix issues that come up with their use of the package. What I would like to see is a dialog between those business people and the people who are working on LibreOffice for TDF/LO. This would need to be a two way dialog that lets TDF know what issues are out there and what they have done [or want done], and then have TDF people respond about what is being done on their end. That
[libreoffice-users] Impress query
I've had long-standing issues with the smoothness of transitions between slides in OOo's Impress, and especially with the custom animation facility often not producing correct effects. Can anyone say if the lo version Impress has any [known] improvements in this regard please? (As they don't seem to coexist happily on ubuntu, it's not quite trivial just to try lo. :-( ) Thanks. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress Audio - Clarification of loss
On 30/05/2011, users+h...@libreoffice.org users+h...@libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 5904 through 5933): [libreoffice-users] RE: [Libreoffice] Word doesn't see symbols - Substituting Fonts 5904 - Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken 5905 - Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com 5906 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 5907 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net 5921 - plino pedl...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization 5908 - planas jsloz...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization 5909 - Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org [libreoffice-users] How to /successfully/ unsub? A FAQ? 5910 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization 5911 - Alex Mavro alma...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization 5912 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken 5913 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress mobility w/sound video + links 5914 - Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken 5915 - Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken 5916 - Roland Hughes rol...@logikalsolutions.com [libreoffice-users] OTT keyboard customization 5917 - Alex Mavro alma...@siv-asia.org [libreoffice-users] İn Writer anchor does not wor 5918 - Kemal Gençay kemalgen...@gmail.com 5924 - Kemal Gençay kemalgen...@gmail.com 5926 - Kemal Gençay kemalgen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: İn Writer anchor does not wor 5919 - Jack szi...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Keyboard shortcuts that call for ctrl are not working on my mac 5920 - Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation 5922 - Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken 5923 - Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl [libreoffice-users] Trivia Question - All Is Revealed 5925 - t...@iafrica.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Edition formulaire 5927 - Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Please disregard the previous messages, this is the correct link 5928 - Kemal Gençay kemalgen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - The Business Case 5929 - t...@iafrica.com [libreoffice-users] Please disregard the previous messages, this is the correct link 5930 - webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com [libreoffice-users] Impress Audio - Clarification of loss 5931 - t...@iafrica.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation 5932 - Gianluca Turconi pub...@letturefantastiche.com [libreoffice-users] Please disregard the previous messages, this is the correct link 5933 - Kemal Gençay kemalgen...@gmail.com Hi Cor, Appologies for repeating this: I use: LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4 with XP Pro and SP3 Just for the record. I noted you wanted the raw facts about the Impress audio file link loss when you were discussing with Tom. I used Impress to create a 96 page slide presentation. Graphic icons on the page linked the icon to an MP3 audio clip. I used the interaction -play sound facility to create a pathway to the audio files. The files are stored in three separate folders denpending whether they are questions statements or answers. There are 409 short audio files linked to icons. approx 4 or 5 icons per page. When I originally created and saved it in odp format no problem. I had the the PC on during the time I developed it. One night I saved the file and then powered off. Next day started up, Hindsight is always perfect, but perhaps the final test should have been to switch off computer and switch back during your preceding evening testing. opened presentation (in front of an audience) and no sound all links vanished. If you go to the link and check interaction you can see the correct path BUT the link is dead. To re-activate you need to re-browse the path and click ok and the audio plays fine. At tthe time I wondered if XP was giving Impress the finger? Did you have to do this during the presentation or by discovery at a later date. However, given the recent statement from Christian that he had not completed Impress code before he got taken off the project... there now does not seem much doubt that some form of bug/incomplete code exists and is likely to be at the heart of the problem. At least there seems to be closure on the mystery. BTW if you try and convert to odp to MS .ppt all the text, pictures and layout convert fine... BUT all audio vanishes because the
Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress query
Hi :) It is possible to install both LO and OOo on Ubuntu but it's not trivial. Some people seem to say it's fairly easy but not trivial. I have no idea but it might be possible to search for instructions Regards from Tom :) From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 11:46:10 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Impress query I've had long-standing issues with the smoothness of transitions between slides in OOo's Impress, and especially with the custom animation facility often not producing correct effects. Can anyone say if the lo version Impress has any [known] improvements in this regard please? (As they don't seem to coexist happily on ubuntu, it's not quite trivial just to try lo. :-( ) Thanks. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
I don't know about [developers], but it sure wastes the hey out of [my] time. When you've read ten or more messages with the same subject line, you've got a fair idea what the next reply is about. Read the poster's comment, then scroll -- if necessary -- to read context, rather than scrolling for endless screens just to find the latest comment. Just my two one-hundredths oif a Federal Reserve Note's worth... -- I'm so busy, I don't know whether I found a rope or lost my horse! Earl -- From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 11:15:53 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken On 05/30/2011 06:58 AM, Roland Hughes wrote: ... Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) to jump into the conversation at any point. ... I suppose you can cite some case law, or some link to a corporation policy for this claim? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 2011-05-31 8:50 AM, Earl Melton wrote: I don't know about [developers], but it sure wastes the hey out of [my] time. When you've read ten or more messages with the same subject line, you've got a fair idea what the next reply is about. Read the poster's comment, then scroll -- if necessary -- to read context, rather than scrolling for endless screens just to find the latest comment. Just my two one-hundredths oif a Federal Reserve Note's worth... Please stop with the same old tired false premise/FUD... *No* *one* (in their right mind) advocates *untrimmed* bottom/inline posting, which, I *agree*, is the *only* thing that is worse than blindly top-posting. *Properly* *trimmed*, you generally don't have to scroll *at* *all*. Regardless of which method you engage in, you should *always* trim your quoted text to only the relevant portion. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] embed flash into presentations
Dear list, I'm using LibreOffice (3.3.2) in Debian stable. I'd like to know if there is a way to embed a swf (flash) file into impress. Searching, I found and old post where say it could be done in OOo, but that recipe don't work in LibOO. Any tip? Thanks in advance Conar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Richard, Specifying Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org messages as junk/spam ON THE EMAIL SERVER will stop them from ever being downloaded! Roland On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 18:19 -0400, Richard wrote: Thanks. I do have a way to specify these messages as JUNK, and not even open them, BUT, they are still downloaded before being rejected as junk, so I get all this garbage going thru my system before the being dumped into the trash. $*#@** You get the idea. Thanks for your input, Roland. Richard -Original Message- From: Roland Hughes [mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:23 PM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Richard, If actual IT professionals set up the server correctly, you send a COMPLETELY EMPTY MESSAGE to users+h...@libreoffice.org No SIG files, no subject, no message body. Given the organization of the Web site, and those genetic miss-fits from management that hang out here and speak directly out their rectal orifice without even the tiniest shred of knowledge...I would not be surprised to find out that doesn't work either. Management = genetic miss-fits promoted to their level of inability. Of course, you email system ought to provide a Web interface. Open your browser without your email client being opened and go to that Web page. Find messages from Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org and flag them as junk mail. Do this on the server via the Web interface and it will stop gigs of useless bits from attempting to come down your dial up connection. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:31 -0400, Richard wrote: HELP!!! I am receiving 20 and more emails daily. I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. rich...@hornick.us -Original Message- From: Joep L. Blom [mailto:jlb...@neuroweave.nl] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:19 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: Roland Hughes Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken On 30/05/11 15:58, Roland Hughes wrote: Joep, Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a whole lot of trouble for doing it. Now, people who once got paid for writing a program or use Microsoft products may well have different opinions since their not the ones working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies. There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't read then denying things were said. Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) to jump into the conversation at any point. I wouldn't even be on this list had the Web site been designed by software professionals instead of whoever was used. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 12:05 +0200, Joep L. Blom wrote: On 30/05/11 08:45, Roland Hughes wrote: Neither bottom nor interleaved posting methods are used by professional IT workers. Microsoft developers yes, but not professionals. Sigh! Roland your remark is utter nonsens. Many lists courteously request to bottom post but also request clipping. Professional IT workers remove unnecessary wording from replies and adhere to courteously requested rules. Joep Roland, Permit me to disagree. If you need E-mails for court representation it is best to furnish the original E-mails not the parts of text in answers to E-mails. You answer the relevant portions of an E-mail as the originator has the original text. I don't think a court will accept the umptieth repeat of an original E-mail. But I live in the Netherlands and I have no idea how convoluted American lawyers and justices actually reason. Well, that goes for Dutch members of that kind also. It is a breed that I, as a simple scientist, not understand so therefore your reasoning might be right. Joep -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:
[libreoffice-users] should we purge 3.3.2 before installing 3.4.x?
There is references about being able to run 3.4RC2 along side of 3.3.2. So I am wondering when the non-RC comes out, should we purge/uninstall LO 3.3.2 before we install the final release version of 3.4.x? Do we need to get rid of 3.3.2 since we are no longer using it? I looks like we can have both installed, so when we move on to 3.4, we still will have 3.3.2 on our systems. I use Ubuntu 10.04LTS, so it may be a different story for Windows users. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Top posting and full quoting has been the written policy at every Fortune 500 company I've consulted at in the past 20+ years. It's in that little policy guide handed to every new consultant and new employee...you know...the one you are supposed to read BEFORE you do anything. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 21:15 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/30/2011 06:58 AM, Roland Hughes wrote: ... Bottom posting wastes vast quantities of developers time scrolling to the end. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations and IT organizations because it allows management (and the legal team) to jump into the conversation at any point. ... I suppose you can cite some case law, or some link to a corporation policy for this claim? -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 5/31/2011 10:09 AM, Roland Hughes wrote: Richard, Specifying Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org messages as junk/spam ON THE EMAIL SERVER will stop them from ever being downloaded! Roland As it will for rol...@logikalsolutions.com. PLONK -- Gene Young -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trivia Question - Further Observation
Well said! I find this attitude most pervasive in the Ubuntu crowd, but it exists to some extent with all distributions. When you get into the management of companies, especially companies with 5 PCs yet name a Director of IT, the we don't pay for nuthin' attitude is even policy. I have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars of time and cash to various OpenSource projects. Participated in driver bug shoots and even published a completely free book to provide both promotion AND A USER MANUAL to a Java class library I found to be above all others out there. http://www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/The-Minimum-You-Need-to-Know-About-Java-and-xBaseJ All users get to pull it down completely free. Months of my life and thousands of dollars in professional editing to provide what most OpenSource projects lack, a usable manual + tutorial. On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 17:22 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: On 05/30/2011 03:46 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-05-30 2:53 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 14:34 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-05-29 3:58 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: An example : can anyone point me to a webpage from the Foundation or the LibreOffice.org site where it clearly states that LibreOffice is not intended for business use or that if you are a business you should buy support ? No, because there isn't one, because there is no requirement or even strong recommendation. But of course there is certainly nothing wrong with buying a support contract if you want one. It's a common cultural problem in the OpenSource community. Everyone thinks they deserve all software for free, but if you have a company or business email address you should spend all of your money so that they can continue to have free software. It doesn't matter what OpenSource operating system or application/software package you are using, this irrational response persists. I imagine it is even more persistent in the LO world since they just cut free of Sugar Daddy and now need a revenue source. I've never seen or noticed such an attitude - certainly not anything nearly as pervasive or prevalent as you seem to by suggesting. Well, that attitude has been seen before by some people I know. I get mine free, while you have to pay for yours , is the mindset I see myself from time to time. Open Source does cost. It costs people's time and effort, even if they provide it for free. Then there is the costs of the support system. I am not talking about paid consultants. I am talking about Domain names, hosting systems or accounts, servers and other physical needs to keep the TDF/LO web sites up and running. Then there is the fees to display at events and conventions. Then there is the marketing banners, brochures, pamphlets, handouts, etc., etc., that is part of the materials that are used for marketing at such an event. Then there is the people who wants to produce DVDs to get to people who cannot download the package software, due to bandwidth issues or other constrants to their Internet usage. These people who make these DVDs have money tied up with DVD cases, Printable DVD media, Printing the DVD case covers and the inserted pamphlets, and how about buying a printer that can print on the printable DVD media. All these things cost money. For TDF/LibreOffice, they wish to raise the need funds to provide for the money being spent for the physical costs of the services required for their web hosting needs, plus any marketing costs spent or will be spent marketing the product. Then there is the local people who make the DVDs. They need to help cover their costs in making the DVDs and the shipping costs to send it out to those who will need their DVD printing/shipping services. Sure, there are people who volunteer their time and efforts programing/developing, marketing, and may other task involved with the creation and distribution of an Open Source software package. But there are things that cost money as well. There are businesses that have volunteered their people and money to help the cause of Open Source. But nothing is truly free. Somewhere it costs someone money. Time is money too. If you want free software, you are paying for it by your time and efforts finding it, downloading it, maybe promoting it to your friends and family, supporting it in the email lists, or even donating some cash to it via its fundraising efforts. FOR ME I am a part of the North American Community DVD Project. I have donated space on my hosting account and bought a domain for its testing portal http://libreoffice-na.us/ . I have bought DVD cases, printable media, and a printer to print onto those printable media. I will be handing out many of these DVDs to local people, organizations, businesses, and government agencies - ALL out of my own fixed income pocket. I am
[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice Impress Putting text on a Photograph background
I have a photograph that I want to use as a background to a side. I want text to fly in as in a normal slide on top of of the photograph. Text boxes do not work. Any ideas? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Original Message Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:04:19 -0400 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org To: users@libreoffice.org On 2011-05-31 8:50 AM, Earl Melton wrote: I don't know about [developers], but it sure wastes the hey out of [my] time. When you've read ten or more messages with the same subject line, you've got a fair idea what the next reply is about. Read the poster's comment, then scroll -- if necessary -- to read context, rather than scrolling for endless screens just to find the latest comment. Just my two one-hundredths oif a Federal Reserve Note's worth... Please stop with the same old tired false premise/FUD... *No* *one* (in their right mind) advocates *untrimmed* bottom/inline posting, which, I *agree*, is the *only* thing that is worse than blindly top-posting. *Properly* *trimmed*, you generally don't have to scroll *at* *all*. Regardless of which method you engage in, you should *always* trim your quoted text to only the relevant portion. This is getting to be a pretty tiresome thread, and it is obvious that the main protagonists are never going to change their views, no matter how right or wrong they are. However, you've hit the nail on the head, tanstaafl. Maybe no one *advocates* untrimmed bottom posting, but many people do it, and it is extremely counter-productive in so many ways. Notwithstanding all your emphases above, the fact is that *very* *few* people, particularly those writing in non-newsgroup environments but also many many newsgroup posters, do any trimming, let alone the 'proper trimming' to which you refer. That is one, just one, of the reasons why most people top-post and will continue to do so. I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. This message is bottom-posted only because the last one was. Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Macro Security Crash
LibreOffice 3.3.2 Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 Ubuntu 11.04 / Gnome 2.32.1 / kernel 2.6.38-9 every time I go to ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeSecurity and click on Macro Security all open documents close without saving. I must enable Macro's! Any help would be very much appreciated. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Here Here! I would add that trimmers _almost always_ quote out of context, chopping off sentences and paragraphs in such a way as to completely change the meaning of the original poster, so they can spin a conversation away from its central topic towards something which makes their insignificant lives seem to have meaning...Think Glen Beck and Fox News On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:20 +0800, Lindsay Graham wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 09:04:19 -0400 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org To: users@libreoffice.org On 2011-05-31 8:50 AM, Earl Melton wrote: I don't know about [developers], but it sure wastes the hey out of [my] time. When you've read ten or more messages with the same subject line, you've got a fair idea what the next reply is about. Read the poster's comment, then scroll -- if necessary -- to read context, rather than scrolling for endless screens just to find the latest comment. Just my two one-hundredths oif a Federal Reserve Note's worth... Please stop with the same old tired false premise/FUD... *No* *one* (in their right mind) advocates *untrimmed* bottom/inline posting, which, I *agree*, is the *only* thing that is worse than blindly top-posting. *Properly* *trimmed*, you generally don't have to scroll *at* *all*. Regardless of which method you engage in, you should *always* trim your quoted text to only the relevant portion. This is getting to be a pretty tiresome thread, and it is obvious that the main protagonists are never going to change their views, no matter how right or wrong they are. However, you've hit the nail on the head, tanstaafl. Maybe no one *advocates* untrimmed bottom posting, but many people do it, and it is extremely counter-productive in so many ways. Notwithstanding all your emphases above, the fact is that *very* *few* people, particularly those writing in non-newsgroup environments but also many many newsgroup posters, do any trimming, let alone the 'proper trimming' to which you refer. That is one, just one, of the reasons why most people top-post and will continue to do so. I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. This message is bottom-posted only because the last one was. Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On 2011-05-31 11:20 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. As do I... if someone is incapable of properly using their mail client, I'm probably not interested in anything they have to say, especially for computer related lists... That said, I do allow a lot more leeway on non-technical lists... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On 1 Jun 2011 at 00:09, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-05-31 11:20 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. As do I... if someone is incapable of properly using their mail client, I'm probably not interested in anything they have to say, especially for computer related lists... That said, I do allow a lot more leeway on non-technical lists... Ah, but neither of us would *ever *need to page down to see the current post if we both top-posted. You cannot claim, in a general context, that there is there is a *proper* way of using one's mail client. The way in which it is used will depend on the particular environment and the guidelines, if any, that have been developed for use in that environment. It is only in some, generally technical, newsgroups that bottom posting is specified as preferred (which is different from *proper*). In most mailing lists (and I access libreoffice-users through a mailing list, not a newsgroup) and almost *all *commercial correspondence, top-posting is used. Why? Because, it is the most suitable in those environments. On the other hand, I agree that bottom-posting is suitable in a well-disciplined technical newsgroup -- but how many are well-disciplined (ie, follow newsgroup netiquette)? Not many. Lindsay Graham -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] OT: Error in list headers
Thanks, James - I'll try that, although my hopes are dim at this point that that will work. Richard -Original Message- From: James E. Lang [mailto:jim+...@lang.hm] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:12 AM To: users@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] OT: Error in list headers The list headers include this line: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:users+h...@libreoffice.org Instead of +help it should be +unsubscribe -- Jim --On Monday, May 30, 2011 01:32:19 PM -0400 Richard rich...@hornick.us wrote: I have tried many, many times to unsubscribe with NO SUCCESS. PLEASE give me an email, land line, snail mail address, or phone number where I can UNSUBSCRIBE. --8== -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue
Hello, On LibreOffice Calc, when I try to type in 1/3 (as in the 0. repeating), it formats it automatically as 01/03/2011. How do I disable it? I looked for the AutoCorrect/AutoFormat setting, but I did not find it. I am using LibreOffice 3.4.0 RC 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 Matthew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
So, the argument is that people should follow rules(although they are really only guidelines) in order to not be a drone?? and you say that someone elses argument is silly! lol Regards from Tom :) From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 18:41:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting This is a silly argument... On 2011-05-31 1:16 PM, Lindsay Graham wrote: Ah, but neither of us would *ever *need to page down to see the current post if we both top-posted. Irrelevant... like I said, the same thing applies to a properly trimmed bottom/inline posted message. The only time I need to scroll a bottom/inline posted message (which I mostly don't bother doing, I just click delete) is when someone like Tom bottom posts *without trimming*... You cannot claim, in a general context, that there is there is a *proper* way of using one's mail client. I can, I did, and I meant it. In most mailing lists (and I access libreoffice-users through a mailing list, not a newsgroup) and almost *all *commercial correspondence, top-posting is used. Ahem... the posting guidelines link at the bottom of each and every one of the libreoffice-users list asks you to please bottom post... so your own example was misplaced... ;) Why? Because, it is the most suitable in those environments. Wrong - it is because most people are lazy, and it is the easiest, and because it is the default for Outlook, which is what most corporate drones use. On the other hand, I agree that bottom-posting is suitable in a well-disciplined technical newsgroup -- but how many are well-disciplined (ie, follow newsgroup netiquette)? Not many. They are not well disciplined because they are lazy, and because they can get away with in most cases. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue
Hi Matthew, Matthew Young schrieb: Hello, On LibreOffice Calc, when I try to type in 1/3 (as in the 0. repeating), it formats it automatically as 01/03/2011. How do I disable it? There is no way to disable it. It is a special feature, which you can use to enter dates with the numpad. To enter numbers as fractions you have to format the cells to number format fraction before you enter the numbers. I looked for the AutoCorrect/AutoFormat setting, but I did not find it. I am using LibreOffice 3.4.0 RC 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue
You can use an old school trick: type +1/3 ;) (In fact Lotus used + as an indicator for a formula which was much more practical than = since it's already on the Num Pad... But everybody started following Excel... :( ) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AutoCorrect-AutoFormat-issue-tp3007549p3007676.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] load url bar
An enhancement request has been created: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37800 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue
Hi :) Have you tried Format - Cells - Numbers - Category and then scroll down to Fraction rather than date? Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Matthew Young rs.matthewcom.i...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 31 May, 2011 20:15:01 Subject: [libreoffice-users] AutoCorrect/AutoFormat issue Hello, On LibreOffice Calc, when I try to type in 1/3 (as in the 0. repeating), it formats it automatically as 01/03/2011. How do I disable it? I looked for the AutoCorrect/AutoFormat setting, but I did not find it. I am using LibreOffice 3.4.0 RC 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 Matthew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress mobility w/sound video + links
NoOp wrote (30-05-11 04:27) I wish to sincerely thank you for: 1) recognizing the issue to begin with importance, 2) for the effort that you put into the code, and 3) the kind offer to assist if anyone wants to pick it up again. Thank you Christian. Kind regards I wish you well. +1 Note to Cor Nouws: any possibility that you could get any of the LO devs to review pick up Christian's code? Well, do not over estimate my influence pls. But I can think about what to do... A great start of course is Christians offer to help. Maybe we can set up an interview, blog post, about the feature in the light of open source development and see if that attracts someone who likes the subject and has the time and right skills to help? Hi Cor, We might be able to sponsor this if it would help and depending on the resources needed. If you want to take me up on this offer let me know. You know how to reach me. Grx HdV -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 14:12 -0500, Matthew Young wrote: On 05/31/2011 12:41 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: This is a silly argument... THIS WHILE THING IS SILLY - YOU ARE DEBATING THE **CORRECT** WAY TO POST ... WHILE YOU **KNOWINGLY** POSTING **OFF-TOPIC**! IF YOU HAVE TO PUT O T IN THE SUBJECT IT DOESN'T MATTER YOUR POSTING STYLE - YOU SHOULD BE POSTING ELSEWHERE OR OFF-LIST. SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. And, yes, this message in intentionally all-caps to indicate *YELLING*. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 22:24, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: So, the argument is that people should follow rules(although they are really only guidelines) in order to not be a drone?? and you say that someone elses argument is silly! lol Regards from Tom :) Tom, please stop top posting. I'll make it clear: this list is not only about you or me. This list is archived for the future. In order for those archives to be useful, proper posting style is to trim posts and quote relevant parts in the order of natural conversation. In English that means left to right and top to bottom. I dislike unnecessary scrolling as much as you do. But even worse is an archive of useless, unsorted information. I like to google my issues before asking, but top posting separates the answers from the questions. That is like taking your family photos, cutting them up, and putting all the pieces in a box. The information is all still there, but it is so disorganized that it is impossible to enjoy. Please, for the sake of the archives and those who use them, please stop top posting. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:26:58PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 22:24, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: So, the argument is that people should follow rules(although they are really only guidelines) in order to not be a drone?? and you say that someone elses argument is silly! lol Regards from ...snip.. Please, for the sake of the archives and those who use them, please stop top posting. His posts indicate he's doing it just to be different. He doesn't care how much it inconveniences any one else. It's akin to a child saying I can do anything I want. My Mommy said so. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:09:25 -0400, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken: On 2011-05-31 11:20 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. As do I... if someone is incapable of properly using their mail client, I'm probably not interested in anything they have to say, especially for computer related lists... +1 on that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting]
Uh-oh! Civil Disobedience. Top posting for freedom ;-) On 5/31/11 1:49 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:09:25 -0400, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken: On 2011-05-31 11:20 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. As do I... if someone is incapable of properly using their mail client, I'm probably not interested in anything they have to say, especially for computer related lists... +1 on that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/05/2011 13:58, Roland Hughes wrote: Professional IT workers never remove any portion of the post because when you go through a SOX audit, and then through court, you get in a whole lot of trouble for doing it. For a SOX audit the important thing is that the emails are available as they were _ORIGINALLY_ sent. It does not matter one iota if the emails are top posted, bottom posted, intermixed, or none of the message being responded to is quoted. If your firm takes to editing emails after they were sent, then they ought to fail SOX Audit. Courts are more concerned about the sequence that messages were sent, and their contents, than whether top posting, bottom posting, intermixed quoting, or nothing was used. When courts have looked at the quoting practices of an individual, it usually is triggered by a change in quoting practices. A change that may have been the result of tampering with emails after they were sent. working on multi-million dollar projects for Fortunate 500 companies. a) Microsoft is a Fortune 500 company; b) For at least three decades, the professional IT consensus has been to quote _only_ the appropriate text. That is the text that one is directly responding to. There is a long drawn out history of people deleting what they didn't read then denying things were said. That sounds you are talking about deleting content _after_ the email was sent, not before it was sent. There are no legal barriers to deleting content prior to sending the message. There are a number of legal objections to deleting content after sending the messages. Objections that can, in some instances, result in gaol time. Full quoting is a policy mandated by most major corporations Gomma gama. Gomma gama. because it allows management (and the legal team) to jump into the conversation at any point. If an email suggests doing something that is a clear violation of the law of the land, then legal might jump in, without looking at any other messages in the thread. Even then, legal should limit itself to saying: Proposal x goes against company policy. Even under those circumstances,legal should review the entire thread before posting anything. In all other cases, legal should review the entire thread, before engaging the message thread. jonathon I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XYMAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVN7EH/11LOtAYR2NeQ5GJ1ycAKgRm mJwR2pWQF1OkjrYulGVhQqWSgQdZ0MiTLo676rC22yQcefzuHWS9X3hl6b0oRy+u IjqYfLMcnBjEWLR+OY47BkG/xOuzF+xPseGB9M1T5OqcN0hCASG8YHsuZTABT7mt v36LxiT2ZdkOsLD2qxHImqnSH2Bno5ulxOg+8CC7052lUp7jTfOWp7DnrZLiY6ot sjBB1q9PqyetKczXRYRx3lmJ1nDvNNsLf6MD1mCVfrMCYu4RrzyspnoPgSjI04KV q9my6zsGuLKdohOSIIZ2YxA5iXzMWmWFCIu1VJKjOGfJX/BHydNKJgCmc1iYN5c= =jx4p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/05/2011 21:42, Sigrid Carrera wrote: If you're going to a football match, you do obey the rules for the game, you don't make up your own rules, Supposedly, both rugby and Australian rules football got started that way. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XgNAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVmRgH/1vwFpNSMi2a30QHyCrU4QQj tRgZynIJbfsJv9JTXSEv9eFwuk0IGX25+Ct7KDWGmTPE8zWM3gWauQAPT2ewJhuS ggRBhu9ZojETSgeFIe9jDKBkHTPt822MHLKVZ5f7i9wRTHaNUGPCfOzGaFFojBjC DhtlII1BMKeLP6xeWnUGpI6daQwYqF5bn8H2mQIyEPnjLOSMhPDlmb4O+wyGHWof DR2PgV3s2AAXLFYqV5W6xm+4AJP7E+MvdLX1ns0r7RpLCoUrwDDkm/CpNudG0HVJ iEc8UozcBAs0Yxq66ZisH7Vu031jZWuA/AEFqbnaPKvcBRQRplsP9SgB6ne9XKc= =hAmk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/05/2011 17:16, Lindsay Graham wrote: Ah, but neither of us would *ever *need to page down to see the current post if we both top-posted. Instead, I have to page down, and read the entire post, to try to figure out what you are responding to, and get the context of that reply. So instead of zipping thru twenty emails per minute, I only go through two or three emails per minute. You cannot claim, in a general context, that there is there is a *proper* way of using one's mail client. Actually, I do make that claim. Intermixed quotes are the proper way to do things, because that is the only format in which the context the reply being made can be readily ascertained. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XoVAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVFG4H/0Mx/+SZKodikKx/aXWrXPMG DQn53ZFZZSr64UNXyrHjWSaYwmgQ7RgV4nG+a7hYE5lvaz7OrI9T6ebR4BSHGMl+ EIWypvIEzJhqcQUWhYTDfyYF9obgvmZWn58fD82uasBDr91wYJJCjFTu/F2ddaJU lVk0TpL2OEXD+USsXEj1bE4ttE6qYOPQ5cEGX8RLaz9Hauv2OpLpOHUOZnCYMsGJ lH6pfXt/XLq29VvD5BXoaponr7vjzvYXhOqMKckO+MRglkxyfn0KUuqzRpqdffd6 bHkRbu/+rAWixplRgaebqAajwACqZDxok55bM52yUY/vz7aD44trUaOGRJu/3fs= =b9MX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
+1 On 5/31/11 3:30 PM, toki wrote: Actually, I do make that claim. Intermixed quotes are the proper way to do things, because that is the only format in which the context the reply being made can be readily ascertained. jonathon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing Currency?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/05/2011 09:09, me sub wrote: Am missing some currency format like Kuwaiti Dinar (KD), how can I add to the cell format or to the currency list ? Currency options are only available for locales that are included in LibO. As best as I can determine, the only way to add a currency to LibO is to add the language localizations for the country. Which brings up an interesting question: * How to add Gold and Silver to the list of currencies in LibO. # Gold is legal tender in the united states. One state in the united states recently passed legislation that allows merchants to accept gold and silver, and reject united states currency; # Gold was/is the usual currency in Vietnam. (Nobody who is sane wants to be paid in ??ng); # Silver is legal tender in the united states; jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XzyAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVxIAIAI2KE8Rdl1DeULS8BwlKY8x3 JpN6JTUx7M8CcSmxPFNCkCEHeMcCEKWjMchfu5sTmQ5rCt2a2Ku/fZVtprvXX1re xRkgTIdzbtPY4rXUOOj1M5qhBQ7lI5A3txAcD2DL4pTkWrnBKy4JYzjxkt+wMWQB /Gpli/aGF8d1jttvuf/j6UU3sYjBxbhwjNu4RBRx0YsNVi1wBlnWa/RtOv5SVomJ /rPpKVK2xJLwY27IcmL2BSYsMJlR8rx9G+xDiqkkQwhdv26qv7vF9de71vDDbUF1 QJ1G6t+NEta6z2ZbX6fvF/fCSNJ56LD4fidQUFmSXJtghqfTGoQQGX5LfowQwdo= =MNMO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting]
+1 on that On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 14:13 -0800, Marc Grober wrote: Uh-oh! Civil Disobedience. Top posting for freedom ;-) On 5/31/11 1:49 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:09:25 -0400, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT Top/Bottom posting] Re: Sun Weblog Publisher broken: On 2011-05-31 11:20 AM, Lindsay Graham wrote: I get so sick of being forced to page down to see the latest text that, unless it is a subject in which I am particularly interested, I will often delete the message unread if the latest contribution is not visible on the first screen page. As do I... if someone is incapable of properly using their mail client, I'm probably not interested in anything they have to say, especially for computer related lists... +1 on that. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] I have to ask (four qustions)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/05/2011 10:36, Nuzhna Pomoshch wrote: 1. Why is the default column width in Calc 2.27 cm? Where does that number come from? That is supposed to be one inch wide. (I know that one inch is 25.4mm, but the conversion was incorrectly done, and hasn't been changed since then.) How do I change it It is hard wired into LibO. :( I've seen a code snippet that enables users to change it in OOo, but you have to recompile OOo to take advantage of it. This should be something that can be changed at Tools Options Calc General. Whilst changing the column size on the default template should work, experience has shown that to be inconsistent. 2. I sometimes need to work in cm, and sometimes in inches. How do I change from one to the other? You have to switch from a metric to an English locale. And then restart LibO. Tools Options languages Locale Setting 3. How do I get hidden (dot directories) to appear in the open and save dialog boxes (they appear in all of the window manager dialog boxes)? This depends upon the file manager that is used. 4. Why is it so !@#$%^* hard to format cells (this has continued from OpenOffice)? You have to use cell styles. Cell styles are neither difficult, nor complicated to use. However, for reasons I don't understand, people are reluctant to use them. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5YKBAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVFlcIAIpeTGddVB+edX3oqUxZOrBS b1tYVVNozSHqvJo9uZIfkf/tObPDtDeSNqsNKqiA0G0vs/dPW7AxVZFv25w6D50V b8cyr62J6PqhYdxPgj4tElKZ6zKArOlaeD+gHFznrlehU6zFCs90ARw7KKVski2B Ro6SoqQyFutW0l5Iin/COFgn3AP92jgp0oQKa1KiAmD06pf8tb0gbBaC4fMcFTl1 LIQ7gTUhrjX7nGe/M3vbF/aD8vXA5GAyk1y+DOh+PUbj9K49srUPmlx1a7ZxsYC6 1XexAFnlM4qC9KlwqEn/qF8lGH/HtN71vmNBB2Gomz46Cb1PmPorXFb9vMaOiJo= =XOsK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Numbering help.
Hi. I have got myself into a state with numbering that may be someone could help me get out of, or if there is no way out may be it will lead to a bug being filed. I have been making notes for a company LO styles usage manual and looking at what users have been doing and what they should have done and how to fix up their manuals. I will simply explain how to recreate the problem and possibly someone can help me with the correction. 1-Create a new writer document. 2-Add say 5 lines of text. 3-Apply list style Numbering 1 to get outline numbering. 4-Highlight line 2 and Demote one level 5-With line 2 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering on line 2 changes to match. This is all as expected and as historically has happened through LO and OO. 6-Now click on the outline numbering (so just the numbering is highlighted in gray) And change the font to another font and change the font size to another size. The outline numbering all changes. 7-highlight line 4 and Demote one level 8-With line 4 now demoted change the font size of the text after the numbering. The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text. The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere. My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of. I have deleted all numbering and all content from the document but now for any list I create or list style I apply to the document the outline numbering is in the font and size I set it 6 above and not matching the characters after the numbering as did occur originally. This one click and change to the outline font has completely mucked up my whole document (As I had size 16pt bold major points level 1 and size 12pt sub points and now they are all either 16 or 12 and bold or not). Thanks, steve -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
Assuming it works. Sometimes systems fail to show a difference between the previous posting and the reply. If everyone used the same system then it might work. But different people need different systems for different reasons. Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Grober m...@interak.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 0:32:09 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting +1 On 5/31/11 3:30 PM, toki wrote: Actually, I do make that claim. Intermixed quotes are the proper way to do things, because that is the only format in which the context the reply being made can be readily ascertained. jonathon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken
Rules are relatively new in football's history. The original game goes way back before medieval times and had few or no rules, even methods of scoring was not consistent and some had very indistinct 'goals'. Variants of the older game still survive in specific villages and a few towns throughout Europe. One that is restricted to a set pitch rather than using the entire town is played between prisoners released for the day and is more of a boxing match between various groups of players, no gloves. In pool halls and pubs the players often agree to which set of rules apply before the game. Same with poker, backgammon, even chess has many variants. Rules that are too rigid, inflexible and fail to take into account what people commonly do will often found to be broken and re-written later. Just because something is written as a rule now does not mean that it will be acceptable behaviour in the future (or in the past). Smoking pot was legal until 1969 in the US. Prohibition failed to stop people from drinking and was finally stopped. Nowadays people seem to be encouraged to drink. Does that mean drinking is good or was bad. I realise that people with OCD and autism often need tightly controlled environments and that skilled or even gifted IT people tend to have a much higher percentage of people with those conditions than the general population but people with those conditions often go in completely opposite directions of what they need. So, i can see why some people would argue to restrict other people's use of the lists and i even think that is fairly fine on some of the lists but the users list is the first and only way for most new people to access help and those new people are unlikely to be familiar with bottom-posting and may not want to change their entire emailing system just to get an answer to 1 quick question. We need to be flexible on this list. Both top and bottom (and other) posting must be allowed to continue otherwise we restrict the percentage of people that would feel welcomed and feel like continuing to use LO. If we don't want new users and want to make people feel uneasy and unwelcome then fine, insist on bottom posting. Regards from Tom :) From: toki toki.kant...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 0:21:49 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] OTRe: Sun Weblog Publisher broken -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30/05/2011 21:42, Sigrid Carrera wrote: If you're going to a football match, you do obey the rules for the game, you don't make up your own rules, Supposedly, both rugby and Australian rules football got started that way. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN5XgNAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVmRgH/1vwFpNSMi2a30QHyCrU4QQj tRgZynIJbfsJv9JTXSEv9eFwuk0IGX25+Ct7KDWGmTPE8zWM3gWauQAPT2ewJhuS ggRBhu9ZojETSgeFIe9jDKBkHTPt822MHLKVZ5f7i9wRTHaNUGPCfOzGaFFojBjC DhtlII1BMKeLP6xeWnUGpI6daQwYqF5bn8H2mQIyEPnjLOSMhPDlmb4O+wyGHWof DR2PgV3s2AAXLFYqV5W6xm+4AJP7E+MvdLX1ns0r7RpLCoUrwDDkm/CpNudG0HVJ iEc8UozcBAs0Yxq66ZisH7Vu031jZWuA/AEFqbnaPKvcBRQRplsP9SgB6ne9XKc= =hAmk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
