date:20110914

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:15, Steven Shelton ste...@sheltonlegal.net wrote:
 This is the only comment that I will make on this, and I think it's
 pretty self-explanatory as to why MS formats need to be supported.

 I work as an attorney. One of the frequent requirements from judges is
 that we deliver copies of our proposed orders to them in MS Word format.

 I am in no position to tell a judge that he is using the wrong format
 and needs to install a plug-in on his county-owned and -maintained
 computer--which he may not even have the authority, let alone the
 know-how, to do--so that he can read the files I send him.

 If LibO stops supporting MS Office files, I will have no choice and will
 be forced to discontinue using LibO. I suspect the same is true of
 people who work in a more corporate setting, as opposed to a judicial one.


This is also valid in an academic setting. My experience with Open
Office while in university: the professors made available Word
documents. If your computer could not read it, then use the computer
in the library to print it. End of story.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:43, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 Dotan Cohen wrote (12-09-11 20:52)

 One team at MS works on MS Office, another on the OOXML standard.

 .docx != ooxml
 (the MsOffice 2007/2010 file format is not the standard OOXML)


Not that I consider Wikipedia as an authoritative source, but this
states quite clearly that it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:18, Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt wrote:
 Yes, there are deviations. I even remember threads about LibO files
 failing ODF validation.

 But, as LibreOffice is free software, its source is open. So people who
 want to find out how exactly are LibO ODF files generated can check the
 source.


I see, the old argument that the source code is the standard. I
thought that this was a technical discussion, not a religious one.
Sorry, wrong room.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress 3.4 prints polygons as rectangles and ovals as polygons

2011-09-14 Thread marshals


NoOp wrote:
 
 I only printed page 5 from LO 3.4.3 Win7 to an Epson Workforce 635; the
 results were not pretty. 
 
Yes, and I can see you also get the extra shapes in slide 5.  I wasn't
certain that those extra shapes were also bugs - my daughter insisted she
had not created those shapes at any stage and they genuinely didn't appear
to be in the slide but I couldn't imagine that a bug would manifest itself
in that way.

NoOp wrote:
 
 So I reckon that you've a valid bug report issue... 
 
Thanks, I've reported it now, referencing this thread, as 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40863 40863 .

Thanks again for your help!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

Hi :)
I haven't read your post yet but you can try asking in your own language.  Is 
it Greek?  If so there is another list you might be able to use in addition to 
this one
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Greek
Whichever one gives the best answer please give a link to that answer in the 
other list if you can  ;)

There is also a Greek version of the international website
http://el.libreoffice.org/
It seems to be one of the most fully translated.  Some languages only have the 
2 crucial pages and some don't have any yet.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 14/9/11, Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as 
PDF
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 8:58

-- Forwarded message --
From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
Date: 2011/9/14
Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
To: us...@libreoffice.org


Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
know) :)
I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook -
intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows 7
home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again the
result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

P.s
Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

2011-09-14 Thread Brian Barker

From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011, 11:01
I haven't read your post yet but you can try asking in your own language.  Is 
it Greek?
 
With a name like Ilian Ivanov, expressed in Cyrillic, not Greeek, characters, 
that's probably unlikely!
 
Brian Barker

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

2011-09-14 Thread Илиан Иванов

I'm from Bulgaria not from Greece. Anyway it's not the language I'm
concerned (actually I think my post is understandable enough) but the
problem I'm describing and is it going to be fixed in the next release of
the 3.4 series

2011/9/14 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 I haven't read your post yet but you can try asking in your own language.
 Is it Greek?  If so there is another list you might be able to use in
 addition to this one
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Greek
 Whichever one gives the best answer please give a link to that answer in
 the other list if you can  ;)

 There is also a Greek version of the international website
 http://el.libreoffice.org/
 It seems to be one of the most fully translated.  Some languages only have
 the 2 crucial pages and some don't have any yet.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Wed, 14/9/11, Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on
 saving as PDF
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 8:58

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
 Date: 2011/9/14
 Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
 To: us...@libreoffice.org


 Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
 know) :)
 I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook
 -
 intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows
 7
 home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
 tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
 process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
 the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
 result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
 different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
 the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
 Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
 same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
 universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
 has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
 release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again
 the
 result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
 format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
 install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
 crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
 My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
 release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

 P.s
 Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

2011-09-14 Thread Carlo Strata

Have you tried to *export* (not save or save as) *your original .doc 
file* to .pdf on *other* systems (Windows, linux, MacOS X; 32 and 64 
bit)? Without installing universal document converter (udc.exe)?


If not, could you try it and make we know?

If the file content is free of privacy rules, you could link us so that 
we can test too on our own PCs.


Have a nice afternoon,

Carlo



Il 14/09/2011 13:36, Илиан Иванов ha scritto:

I'm from Bulgaria not from Greece. Anyway it's not the language I'm
concerned (actually I think my post is understandable enough) but the
problem I'm describing and is it going to be fixed in the next release of
the 3.4 series

2011/9/14 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
I haven't read your post yet but you can try asking in your own language.
Is it Greek?  If so there is another list you might be able to use in
addition to this one
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Greek
Whichever one gives the best answer please give a link to that answer in
the other list if you can  ;)

There is also a Greek version of the international website
http://el.libreoffice.org/
It seems to be one of the most fully translated.  Some languages only have
the 2 crucial pages and some don't have any yet.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 14/9/11, Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on
saving as PDF
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 8:58

-- Forwarded message --
From: Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com
Date: 2011/9/14
Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
To: us...@libreoffice.org


Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
know) :)
I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook
-
intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows
7
home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again
the
result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

P.s
Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

Hi :)
Your English was fine.  Lol.  We don't normally Save As ... to pdf.  Have you 
tried

File - Export as Pdf

Make sure the top option PDF/A-1a is UNticked as that has caused a few 
problems.  By default it is usually unticked anyway so that should be fine.  It 
shouldn't be crashing.  If you are forced into using 3.3.4 then that should be 
fine because both the 3.3.x and 3.4.x series/branches are being developed 
alongside each other.  It is worth posting a bug-report against the 3.4.x tho 
because it really should be working fine
Regards from
Tom :)




--- On Wed, 14/9/11, Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as 
PDF
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 8:58

-- Forwarded message --
From: Илиан Иванов hellion...@gmail.com
Date: 2011/9/14
Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
To: us...@libreoffice.org


Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
know) :)
I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook -
intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows 7
home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again the
result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

P.s
Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

Hi :)
If you use Nabble to look at this email thread then you can Reply and choose 
More Options to upload the file to there.  This is a public mailing list so 
if it's at all confidential or contains people's names  addresses or anything 
like that then do not upload the file :)

The mailing list itself can't accept attachments but uploading works in very 
much the same way and does work.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 14/9/11, Carlo Strata carlo.str...@tiscali.it wrote:

From: Carlo Strata carlo.str...@tiscali.it
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on 
saving as PDF
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 12:55

Have you tried to *export* (not save or save as) *your original .doc 
file* to .pdf on *other* systems (Windows, linux, MacOS X; 32 and 64 
bit)? Without installing universal document converter (udc.exe)?

If not, could you try it and make we know?

If the file content is free of privacy rules, you could link us so that 
we can test too on our own PCs.

Have a nice afternoon,

Carlo



Il 14/09/2011 13:36, Илиан Иванов ha scritto:
 I'm from Bulgaria not from Greece. Anyway it's not the language I'm
 concerned (actually I think my post is understandable enough) but the
 problem I'm describing and is it going to be fixed in the next release of
 the 3.4 series

 2011/9/14 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 I haven't read your post yet but you can try asking in your own language.
 Is it Greek?  If so there is another list you might be able to use in
 addition to this one
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Greek
 Whichever one gives the best answer please give a link to that answer in
 the other list if you can  ;)

 There is also a Greek version of the international website
 http://el.libreoffice.org/
 It seems to be one of the most fully translated.  Some languages only have
 the 2 crucial pages and some don't have any yet.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Wed, 14/9/11, Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com  wrote:

 From: Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on
 saving as PDF
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 8:58

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Илиан Ивановhellion...@gmail.com
 Date: 2011/9/14
 Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
 To: us...@libreoffice.org


 Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
 know) :)
 I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook
 -
 intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows
 7
 home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
 tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
 process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
 the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
 result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
 different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
 the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
 Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
 same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
 universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
 has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
 release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again
 the
 result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
 format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
 install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
 crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
 My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
 release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

 P.s
 Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signing MS format documents

Hi :)
How about licensing under a Creative Commons licence so that people know it's a 
protected document?
http://creativecommons.org/
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signing MS format documents
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:29

On 09/13/2011 03:57 PM, e-letter wrote:
 On 13/09/2011, draganbd_bocev...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 Hi all,
 we started using LibreOffice as an alternative to MS Office in our
 organization, on some of the computers. It all started well, but we've hit a
 wall with digital signing. As I understand, the document must be in
 OpenDocument format for the signing to work. The problem is that we will not
 be able to use the LibreOffice native format in the near future and we are
 stuck with the MS formats for which the signing doesn't work.
 
 Firstly, I shall assume your organisation has legal installations of
 m$. Correct me if wrong, but there may be a legal implication as a
 result of using digital signatures, so why would you want to use LO
 generate a digital signature for a proprietary format not owned by LO?
 This may be a legal problem for LO assuming a digital signature is
 supposed to authenticate the user, content and the software used to
 create that content and so it is entirely appropriate for LO to
 provide digital signatures only for the native odf.
 
 Are you really stuck or just unwilling to explain to your clients
 that you are using LO and the benefits derived from using LO?
 
 Of course, the main benefit is supposed to be the advantages of odf...
 
 Is there any way around this? Or maybe I should post this as a feature
 request?
 
 Well, m$ users will vote for this because of the short-term
 convenience, but it would be a very bad consequence for LO. See
 previous posts for the reasons.
 
 You need to perform a cost benefit analysis for your use of LO;
 otherwise, revert to m$.
 
Maybe the company wants to have some way to make sure that their document show 
that they come from their office, and not someone doing some creative editing 
and claiming that it came from them.  Digital Signing is not just for MS to 
determine if you have a legal copy of their products.  There are digital sigs 
for emails and web sites.  I have received some documents that must have a 
digital sig or it is not legal.

How many businesses really would risk problems with pirated copies of Office or 
XP/Vista/Win7?  Most would not.

To be honest, if LibreOffice is to be a replacement in the business offices, it 
must be able to handle the file formats, digital sigs, and any other thing that 
a normal user [not power user] would use MS Office for.  That is the market LO 
was designed for.  If LO does not do these things, then business users will not 
be able to switch over to LO and still be able to do their normal office work 
and/or support their clients that do use them.  If people see that LO does 
everything they do now with MSO [including the file formats] AND it is free to 
get and upgrade, then there is not reason to keep using MSO.  If they have 
clients that use .docx and .xltx files and LO did not support them, then these 
businesses would not be able to switch to LO and keep their clients happy.  And 
NO, do not ask [or require] the clients to switch to LO, like one thread stated 
we should do.  You could easily loose those clients for asking.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

Hi :)
Err, sorry, which platform are you on?  Is that Bsd?  It's not the path used in 
GnuLinux and i dont remember it looking like that in Windows either although i 
could easily have missed that. 
Regards from
Tom :)

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Subject: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:02

Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

I appreciate it being under .config so as not to add to the clutter of my home 
directory, but is the . necessary? It's already in .config!

~/.config/libreoffice would do just fine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: Problems with slides imported from Powerpoint

2011-09-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Hi :)
Impress is fairly annoying although Base is much worse.  Writer and Calc are 
great tho :)
People are actively working on Impress and it does mostly work very well but 
it's just got a few irritations that don't quite work perfectly.  People are 
working on it, apparently, so it will improve a lot :)
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: mlevison m...@mlevison.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: Problems with slides imported from 
Powerpoint
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:05

Tom - thanks in the end Powerpoint export to ODP worked well in saving the
notes, however all the diagrams were messed up. Further problems:
- I would correct the diagram in one file and drag it to another. Both
instances of LibreOffice crashed.
- Bonus the file would be corrupted.

In the end copy and paste was the way to move images.

I'm still grumpy about LibreOffice and its current quality.

Cheers
Mark

On Friday, September 9, 2011, Tom [via Document Foundation Mail Archive]
wrote:

 Hi :)
 There might be a faster route.  Can you use PowerPoint to Save As ... the
 older MS format, ppt?  The option is something like MS PowerPoint
 (98/Xp/2000).  There might be an option to save as odp (=OpenDocument
 Presentation) but that uses the older 1.0/1.1 format which  strips out all
 the notes, apparently, so avoid it.

 The older MS format, ppt, should open fine in Impress and hopefully you can
 then save in the newer odp format.  You can probably do that straight from a
 command-line without even opening the presentations so you could get through
 a LOT of presentations very fast at that point.

 Sadly Impress does have a lot of problems.  Apparently devs are working at
 it but it's not there yet.  There are other OpenSource, or at least free
 (with a little f) programs, that are good for presentations.

 Good luck and regards from
 Tom :)


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 I have a large body of slides originally created in Powerpoint. Recently I
 was asked my a client to move them to LibreOffice. At this stage I'm having

 a frustrating experience:

 - Import done by opening pptx files in Impress 3.3.x
 - When I opened the files I noticed the notes didn't come across
 - When I tried to add the notes I couldn't edit the notes field
 - When I run the presentation on a project I can see my original notes

 Is this is a common problem. I'm at the point of just asking my client to
 pay for MS office licenses because it will be cheaper than the time I'm
 spending on this.

 Please help restore my faith.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?


On 09/14/2011 04:14 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:15, Steven Sheltonste...@sheltonlegal.net  wrote:

This is the only comment that I will make on this, and I think it's
pretty self-explanatory as to why MS formats need to be supported.

I work as an attorney. One of the frequent requirements from judges is
that we deliver copies of our proposed orders to them in MS Word format.

I am in no position to tell a judge that he is using the wrong format
and needs to install a plug-in on his county-owned and -maintained
computer--which he may not even have the authority, let alone the
know-how, to do--so that he can read the files I send him.

If LibO stops supporting MS Office files, I will have no choice and will
be forced to discontinue using LibO. I suspect the same is true of
people who work in a more corporate setting, as opposed to a judicial one.


This is also valid in an academic setting. My experience with Open
Office while in university: the professors made available Word
documents. If your computer could not read it, then use the computer
in the library to print it. End of story.


DO NOT worry.
LibreOffice will not stop using Word formats for loading and saving.  
LibreOffice wants to be your MSO alternative.  If it does not support 
MSO formats, then it cannot be, thus it should not happen.  Actually, 
every new 3.4.x update reads/writes the newest MSO formats better than 
the previous one [as far as I can tell and heard from others].


I do not like the idea of people wanting LO to dump its main 
compatibility feature that is needed if we want LO to gain market share 
as a replacement to MSO in businesses and governments.  MSO file formats 
are the business standard.  LO will support that standard.  I would like 
to see ODF become the standard, now that is the ISO for office file 
formats.  MSO formats will still be used by businesses even if ODF takes 
over, so at that point LO will still need to support MSO formats.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

2011-09-14 Thread Brad Rogers

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:02:48 -0600
Matthew Monaco dgbale...@0x01b.net wrote:

Hello Matthew,

 Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

It's in ~/.libreoffice here.  Thee's not even a (sym)link to it on
~/.config/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

2011-09-14 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

This is probably an incoming document with a format code of some type 
not acceptable to LibreOffice.


I don't think that all codes not used by LibreOffice are stripped on 
opening a document.  Not unwise if you wish for it to look the same from 
the original program.


There error maybe somewhere in the crossover of a format code that is 
used in one way by Libre that creates a malformed program function and 
cannot complete.


CTLA your document, right click and Clear direct formatting the 
entire document 1st,  and generate a PDF to be sure this fixes the problem.


If so, Clear individual paragraphs until the failure goes away and 
report the code as added in the original program and send a copy of the 
original paragraph and it's repaired version to support.


If this doesn't provide evidence of failure, it may be pagination or 
some other type of code.


This assumes Libre is operating correctly and with integrity to clearing 
all functions.


I am not a programmer or support person for Libre and this is just how 
I'd look at the problem.


LibreOffice 3.4.2
OOO340m1 (Build:203)

On 9/14/2011 3:58 AM, Илиан Иванов wrote:

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Date: 2011/9/14
Subject: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF
To: us...@libreoffice.org


Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
know) :)
I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook -
intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows 7
home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.
Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf  called
universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again the
result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.
My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

P.s
Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Help

2011-09-14 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

You may also want to check Ubuntu's default page size setup for that 
printer.


If it does not match, change it and try again.

Just a suggestion.

On 9/14/2011 2:11 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 13/09/11 20:59, Boyd Tong a écrit :

Hi Boyd,


I am using Libre Office 3.3.3, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2. I am new
to Base and have created a database containing  reports derived from
queries. When I create a report using legal size with landscape, page
one is correct but page two always prints letter-landscape size. I am
looking for help with this problem.



This is a problem with the default page setting mechanism on multiple
pages generated by the wizards. There is at least one bug report for
this already (can't remember the number right now), as it also affects
printing envelopes.

One possible workaround is to manually reset the page settings of your
document by right mouse button clicking on the second page and resetting
the page format to the one you want instead of the one it assigned
automatically during the wizard process (if that is at all possible with
reports made with the Oracle Report Builder extension).


Alex




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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

2011-09-14 Thread Matthew Monaco


On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Err, sorry, which platform are you on?  Is that Bsd?  It's not the path used in 
GnuLinux and i dont remember it looking like that in Windows either although i 
could easily have missed that.
Regards from
Tom :)



My platform is Linux. Distribution is Arch. The build instructions are here: 
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libreoffice


I don't see anything specifying the user config dir, so I assume what I have is 
the default.



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Subject: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:02

Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

I appreciate it being under .config so as not to add to the clutter of my home directory, 
but is the . necessary? It's already in .config!

~/.config/libreoffice would do just fine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing a 'hot key' assignment

2011-09-14 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi William,

William W. Austin schrieb:
[..]


The assignnment of the key to bring up search and replace.

Basically they hate the change.

Now instead of aCTRLF they have to hitCTRLALTF instead, and
while from my background as a programmer that seems a trivial change, I
have had over 70 complaints about this in the last week alone (and 13
more today). Secretaries, admin. assistants, and managers DON'T like
change.


CtrlF now sets the Cursor into the input-field of the toolbar Find. 
The setting is for all LibO not only for Writer.




So I have gone through the documentation and tried the various
options available, but I don't see any way to give them what they
want (CTRLF = find/search and replace), without editing the code,
changing it there, and recompiling it myself.  I have to find a
solution soon as one of the complaints is from a 'management' type who
is 4 levels higher than I am.  He says to have it for him on Monday
(PERIOD).

Is there a simpler solution? (replacing the users is NOT an option,
however desirable...)


You can assign CtrlF to findreplace via dialog Customize as it 
has been since the beginning. But this will hide the feature of setting 
the cursor into the input field of the toolbar Find.


Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] copy from Thunderbird and paste to Calc


I want to see if this works for anyone (on another than Linux platform).

1. compose a new message in Thunderbird
2. Enter
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
on the to line:
3. Select all the to: and copy it to the clipboard
4. Create an empty spreadsheet
5. Past the clipboard in a cell

It should work.

Now try (quotes around the name):
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
It only pastes what is inside the quotes.
Even past-special doesn't work.

Past into the expression bar, it works.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing a 'hot key' assignment

Hi :)
Just out of curiosity 
1.  could the CtrlAltF key be re-assigned to jump into the toolbar?  
Swapping the defaults around might be good as a feature-request for the 
longer-term too.  
2.  does anyone know which sub-folder in the config those key settings are 
stored?  Could it be copied to a network folder that everyone could copy to 
their system (or carry the folder on usb-stick or is there a more sophisticated 
way of pushing out configurations like this?
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing a 'hot key' assignment
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 18:26

Hi William,

William W. Austin schrieb:
[..]

 The assignment of the key to bring up search and replace.

 Basically they hate the change.

 Now instead of aCTRLF they have to hitCTRLALTF instead, and
 while from my background as a programmer that seems a trivial change, I
 have had over 70 complaints about this in the last week alone (and 13
 more today). Secretaries, admin. assistants, and managers DON'T like
 change.

CtrlF now sets the Cursor into the input-field of the toolbar Find. 
The setting is for all LibO not only for Writer.


 So I have gone through the documentation and tried the various
 options available, but I don't see any way to give them what they
 want (CTRLF = find/search and replace), without editing the code,
 changing it there, and recompiling it myself.  I have to find a
 solution soon as one of the complaints is from a 'management' type who
 is 4 levels higher than I am.  He says to have it for him on Monday
 (PERIOD).

 Is there a simpler solution? (replacing the users is NOT an option,
 however desirable...)

You can assign CtrlF to findreplace via dialog Customize as it 
has been since the beginning. But this will hide the feature of setting 
the cursor into the input field of the toolbar Find.

Kind regards
Regina


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[libreoffice-users] merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)


1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

Hi :)
I think it might be best to file a bug-report with Arch or Arch's tweaked 
LibreOffice.  

The .libreoffice is a standard across 'all' GNuLinux distros.  I think for 
most distros that means the path is

/home/username/.libreoffice.org/3/user/

Arch seems to add an extra folder and then tweaks most apps/packages to drop 
their . that makes the folder a hidden folder.  I don't know why they don't do 
that for LibreOffice so the folder ends up being 


/home/username/.config/.libreoffice.org/3/user/

I really like they extra depth in Arch because both my /home and /home/username 
folders tend to get filled with tons of stuff that i have no idea about what it 
all does so it's trickier to find things i do want to access.  

So i think it would be awkward for TDF to maintain 2 versions of LibreOffice, 
one for all the other distros and another for Arch family.  I think the easiest 
place to do this would be in Arch somewhere.  I don't know tho.  What do you 
think would be best?
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Matthew Monaco dgbale...@0x01b.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 18:20

On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Err, sorry, which platform are you on?  Is that Bsd?  It's not the path used 
 in GnuLinux and i dont remember it looking like that in Windows either 
 although i could easily have missed that.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


My platform is Linux. Distribution is Arch. The build instructions are here: 
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libreoffice

I don't see anything specifying the user config dir, so I assume what I have is 
the default.

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 Subject: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:02

 Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

 I appreciate it being under .config so as not to add to the clutter of my 
 home directory, but is the . necessary? It's already in .config!

 ~/.config/libreoffice would do just fine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

Hi :)
Hmm, i just thought.  maybe this guide might help you change the path on your 
machine
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Just miss out the bits where it installs another version of LibreOffice!

Something else i liked about the Arch install was the inclusion of OpenJdk6 and 
mozilla-common.  IOpenJdk7 has only come out in the last few days so it's a bit 
too recent to use.  You might not need the java runtime at all.  I have started 
unticking it on the various works machines to help LO start-up faster and had 
no problems so far.  It's good to have the OpenSource version available as a 
fall-back in case you do need java tho even if it is still owned by Oracle.  I 
think for most distros the package/add-on to allow documents to open in a 
web-browser is called mozilla-libreoffice and we would never guess it's 
different in Arch so it's good to have that included as standard.  Both very 
small packages and including them neatly side-steps a range of potential 
troubles :)

The . in the front of the fodler-name only makes the folder hidden.  It doesn't 
really make all that much difference except that you have to remember it when 
typing out the pathname of course.  

Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Matthew Monaco dgbale...@0x01b.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 18:20

On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Err, sorry, which platform are you on?  Is that Bsd?  It's not the path used 
 in GnuLinux and i dont remember it looking like that in Windows either 
 although i could easily have missed that.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


My platform is Linux. Distribution is Arch. The build instructions are here: 
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libreoffice

I don't see anything specifying the user config dir, so I assume what I have is 
the default.

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 Subject: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 14 September, 2011, 2:02

 Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

 I appreciate it being under .config so as not to add to the clutter of my 
 home directory, but is the . necessary? It's already in .config!

 ~/.config/libreoffice would do just fine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] copy from Thunderbird and paste to Calc

2011-09-14 Thread Hladůvka Jiří




Dne 14.9.2011 19:50, James napsal(a):

I want to see if this works for anyone (on another than Linux platform).

1. compose a new message in Thunderbird
2. Enter
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
on the to line:
3. Select all the to: and copy it to the clipboard
4. Create an empty spreadsheet
5. Past the clipboard in a cell

It should work.

Now try (quotes around the name):
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
It only pastes what is inside the quotes.
Even past-special doesn't work.

Past into the expression bar, it works.



On WinXP/Home
it appears as a text in the cell if pasted
into the expression bar as well as pasted into the cell being edited
(after double clicked the cell and pasted into the text cursor position.
If the cell is only selected (not being edited) the CTRL+V
pastes twoo lines into the cell and the second line includes
the link mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org

Regards,
Jiri

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Digest Format

2011-09-14 Thread Mareich

Thanks, Tom, I'll give Nabble a try.   


Tom wrote:
 
 Hi :)
 I think the Nabble interface might be better than the digest for this
 particular case
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
 It is threaded and you can get an overview of the threads written to in
 the last week or however long.  (including resurrected threads).  It's not
 everyone's cuppa tea but i like it and i increasingly find it useful.  
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

2011-09-14 Thread JOE Conner


On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:

1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?


No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro.  The saved and
open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

2011-09-14 Thread Cor Nouws


Dotan Cohen wrote (14-09-11 10:17)

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 23:43, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:

Dotan Cohen wrote (12-09-11 20:52)



.docx != ooxml
(the MsOffice 2007/2010 file format is not the standard OOXML)


Not that I consider Wikipedia as an authoritative source, but this
states quite clearly that it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docx


It states that MsOffice 2007/2010 supports OOXML to a certain level and 
refers to the promises that future versions will do better.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: copy from Thunderbird and paste to Calc

2011-09-14 Thread Andreas Säger


Am 14.09.2011 19:50, James wrote:

I want to see if this works for anyone (on another than Linux platform).

1. compose a new message in Thunderbird
2. Enter
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
on the to line:
3. Select all the to: and copy it to the clipboard
4. Create an empty spreadsheet
5. Past the clipboard in a cell

It should work.

Now try (quotes around the name):
libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
It only pastes what is inside the quotes.
Even past-special doesn't work.

Past into the expression bar, it works.




In a spreadsheet I would always prefer a list of 2 columns, one for the 
mail address, another for a label and let a formula build the hyperlink. 
This way I can simply edit all hyperlinks in plain text and use a 
descriptive label or not.


=HYPERLINK(A1;IF(LEN(B1);B1;A1)) [show the label text B1 if any]
=HYPERLINK(IF(LEFT(A1)=mailto:;;mailto:;)A1;IF(LEN(B1);B1;A1)) 
[prepend mailto:; if A1 does not start with mailto:;, show label B1 if 
any]



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Re: [libreoffice-users] merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)


On 09/14/11 14:58, JOE Conner wrote:

On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:

1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?


No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro.  The saved and
open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA


Thanks.
I guess it works on Windows.
Linux anyone?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

2011-09-14 Thread John McAtee

I used 

LibreOffice 3.3.1 
OOO330m19 (Build:8)
tag libreoffice-3.3.1.2

to create the document and reopened in LO and MS Office 2007.  Everything 
worked as expected, i.e. merge not lost.


My system is HP DV9910 laptop Vista sp2.

John McAtee






From: James bjloc...@lockie.ca
To: libreoffice-users Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 
97/2000/xp/2003)

1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] poor default config path

2011-09-14 Thread Cor Nouws


Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco wrote (14-09-11 03:02)

Why is the default config located at ~/.config/.libreoffice?

I appreciate it being under .config so as not to add to the clutter of
my home directory, but is the . necessary? It's already in .config!

~/.config/libreoffice would do just fine.


Sorry that I am going to give you an incomplete answer (too much to do)
But I remember (or think so) I have seen a config file in the program 
dir, that defines the root path, where the user folder, as defined in 
the /program/boorstraprc file, is placed.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

On 09/14/2011 12:17 PM, James wrote:
 On 09/14/11 14:58, JOE Conner wrote:
 On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:
 1. Create a new Writer document
 2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
 3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
 4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
 5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
 6. Close the document and then open it

 The merge is lost.

 Can anyone reproduce that?

 No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro.  The saved and
 open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

 Thanks.
 I guess it works on Windows.
 Linux anyone?
 

Works for me: LO 3.4.3 linux. Also tested by merging the cells in the rows.
BTW: you might want to let us know which version of LibreOffice you are
using.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

On 09/14/2011 12:55 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Works for me: LO 3.4.3 linux. Also tested by merging the cells in the rows.

Sorry, forgot to add:
LibreOffice 3.4.3
OOO340m1 (Build:302)

 BTW: you might want to let us know which version of LibreOffice you are
 using.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Libre Office 3.4.2/3.43 crashing on saving as PDF

On 09/14/2011 12:58 AM, Илиан Иванов wrote:
...
Hi there, I don't know is this the right place to send this but ... (you
know) :)

It is.

I've had installed Libre Office 3.4.2 on my machine (Samsung r538 notebook -
intel core i3 processor, 4GB of RAM and 500 GB HDD, with installed Windows 7
home Premium x64), I've opened *.doc file created with MS Office 2003 and
tried to save it as *.pdf. The result was that Libre office crashed in the
process of saving the file in the new format.The program tried to restore
the file (it was a success) and I've tried to save it again with the same
result - Libre office crashing on savingthe file. Than I've tried to define
different options for the file in *.pdf format before saving it but again
the result was that the program crashed during the save/convert process.

I find no option to 'Save As' PDF. Do you actually mean: File|Export as PDF?

Afters that I've saved the file like *.odf and again the result was the
same. Than I've downloaded a program for converting files to *.pdf called
universal document converter (udc.exe) and after installing it Libre office
has stopped to crash on saving documents in *.pdf format. after the final
release of Libre office 3.4.3 I've uninstalled the UDC program and again the
result was that Libre Office crashed during saving the same file in *.pdf
format. I reali like Libre office but after theese problems I've had to
install the 3.3 release of the suite, because (I don't know why) it didn't
crashes during saving the above mentioned file like *.pdf.

Possibly related bugs - have a look:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32771
[Writer crashes while exporting big PDF file. (Error message: Der
Wecker klingelt :-))]
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39411
[Writer hangs consistently during Export to pdf operation]

All related to PDF:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__product=LibreOfficecontent=PDF

My question is, is there gonna be a fix for the problem (maybe in the next
release of the 3.4 line ) or am I the first one to notice It?

Have a look through the bug reports (above) and see if there is one
identical to yours. If not, then please file a new bug if you can easily
reproduct the issue.

P.s
Sorry for may bad English but it's not my native language

Your English is perfectly fine by me. :-)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Changing a 'hot key' assignment

On 09/14/2011 09:42 AM, William W. Austin wrote:
...
 HOWEVER after I moved to 3.4.3 from the older 3.3.x releases I'm 
 suddenly hearing a WORLD of complaints about one thing.
 
 The assignnment of the key to bring up search and replace.
 
 Basically they hate the change.
 
 Now instead of a CTRLF they have to hit CTRLALTF instead, and 
 while from my background as a programmer that seems a trivial change, I 
 have had over 70 complaints about this in the last week alone (and 13 
 more today). Secretaries, admin. assistants, and managers DON'T like 
 change.

Don't worry, it gets worse. Wait until they hit this annoyance:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38328
[Find  replace dialogue do not open through Ctrl + Alt + F if Ctrl + F
is pressed before]
...


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[libreoffice-users] .Doc security risk in MS Office (and .Rtf)

Hi :)
LibreOffice is probably unaffected by this issue as it seems to take advantage 
of vulnerabilities in MS Office.  Apparently a slightly modified version of the 
exploit  they suffered from last year can cause them problems again but there 
is a security patch for it in the normal MS Office updates and this time it is 
promised that it will really work, unlike the one from last year which they 
also promised would fix it.  

Quite why you would have DLL files in the same folder as a word-processor 
document or spreadsheet is a bit beyond me.  I am a bit disorganised at times 
but i don't think i ever managed it and it's not the default!  (unless you 
count the desktop or downloads folder where almost anything could be dumped).  

The ZdNet article about this gave some good links
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/ms-patch-tuesday-warning-opening-legitimate-doc-txt-files-brings-code-execution-risk/9399?tag=nl.e550
Such as this one
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-072

Someone recently was saying the MS wanted to discourage or even stop the use of 
.doc to push people into using their newer formats which only really work well 
on their newer products.  All very interesting timing or am i paranoid (or 
both)?  Anyway, it's one more good reason (or 5 according to that last link) 
for using LibreOffice.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 21:58, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 It states that MsOffice 2007/2010 supports OOXML to a certain level and
 refers to the promises that future versions will do better.


In addition, these are stated:

Starting with Microsoft Office 2007, the Office Open XML file formats
have become the default target file format of Microsoft Office,
although the Strict variant of the standard is not yet fully
supported.

Office Open XML Document Filename extension: .docx or .docm

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RE: [libreoffice-users] .Doc security risk in MS Office (and .Rtf)

2011-09-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

This vulnerability is about a side-loading exploit that will cause a malicious 
DLL be used instead of a standard one.  That there is an avenue to a 
side-loading vulnerability by placing certain documents in the same place as 
the DLL is an additional door being closed.  Any Windows program with an Open 
... dialog could be subject to this attack if the search for DLLs is not 
restricted.

I have no insight on how LibreOffice does DLL searches and whether it had to be 
repaired since this became a concern one year ago.  You'd have to check the CVE 
lists for whether anything like that had to be fixed in LibreOffice, and when.  
It might have already been fixed in OpenOffice.org before the fork to 
LibreOffice.

 - Dennis

(I had to deal with this too, but it is basically a won't fix in my case: 
http://odma.info/support/2010/08/X100801.htm.)


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From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 13:42
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] .Doc security risk in MS Office (and .Rtf)

Hi :)
LibreOffice is probably unaffected by this issue as it seems to take advantage 
of vulnerabilities in MS Office.  Apparently a slightly modified version of the 
exploit  they suffered from last year can cause them problems again but there 
is a security patch for it in the normal MS Office updates and this time it is 
promised that it will really work, unlike the one from last year which they 
also promised would fix it.  

Quite why you would have DLL files in the same folder as a word-processor 
document or spreadsheet is a bit beyond me.  I am a bit disorganised at times 
but i don't think i ever managed it and it's not the default!  (unless you 
count the desktop or downloads folder where almost anything could be dumped).  

The ZdNet article about this gave some good links
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/ms-patch-tuesday-warning-opening-legitimate-doc-txt-files-brings-code-execution-risk/9399?tag=nl.e550
Such as this one
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-072

Someone recently was saying the MS wanted to discourage or even stop the use of 
.doc to push people into using their newer formats which only really work well 
on their newer products.  All very interesting timing or am i paranoid (or 
both)?  Anyway, it's one more good reason (or 5 according to that last link) 
for using LibreOffice.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress 3.4 prints polygons as rectangles and ovals as polygons

On 09/14/2011 02:04 AM, marshals wrote:
 
 NoOp wrote:
 
 I only printed page 5 from LO 3.4.3 Win7 to an Epson Workforce 635; the
 results were not pretty. 
 
 Yes, and I can see you also get the extra shapes in slide 5.  I wasn't
 certain that those extra shapes were also bugs - my daughter insisted she
 had not created those shapes at any stage and they genuinely didn't appear
 to be in the slide but I couldn't imagine that a bug would manifest itself
 in that way.
 
 NoOp wrote:
 
 So I reckon that you've a valid bug report issue... 
 
 Thanks, I've reported it now, referencing this thread, as 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40863 40863 .
 
 Thanks again for your help!
...
Thank you for taking the time to open the bug report! I'll add the
screenshots of my tests to the report so that the devs don't have to go
searching on imageshack.

Gary



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)


On 09/14/11 15:55, NoOp wrote:

On 09/14/2011 12:17 PM, James wrote:

On 09/14/11 14:58, JOE Conner wrote:

On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:

1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?


No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro.  The saved and
open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA


Thanks.
I guess it works on Windows.
Linux anyone?


Works for me: LO 3.4.3 linux. Also tested by merging the cells in the rows.
BTW: you might want to let us know which version of LibreOffice you are
using.




3.4.3 for Linux but it is a build for Gentoo from source.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Holtzman

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:15:10PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productions wrote:
 
 I do not remember ever seeing a email based list that worked, and a
 good threading/grouping system for any of the email clients I have
 used.

Have you looked at Alpine or Mutt?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

2011-09-14 Thread soumalya ray

working fine for me too.
ubuntu lucid,LO 3.3.2  3.4.3

On 15 September 2011 06:35, James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

 On 09/14/11 15:55, NoOp wrote:

 On 09/14/2011 12:17 PM, James wrote:

 On 09/14/11 14:58, JOE Conner wrote:

 On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:

 1. Create a new Writer document
 2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
 3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
 4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
 5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
 6. Close the document and then open it

 The merge is lost.

 Can anyone reproduce that?

  No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro.  The saved and
 open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

  Thanks.
 I guess it works on Windows.
 Linux anyone?

  Works for me: LO 3.4.3 linux. Also tested by merging the cells in the
 rows.
 BTW: you might want to let us know which version of LibreOffice you are
 using.



  3.4.3 for Linux but it is a build for Gentoo from source.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: poor default config path

On 09/14/2011 10:20 AM, Matthew Monaco wrote:
On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) Err, sorry, which platform are you on? Is that Bsd? It's
not the path used in GnuLinux and i dont remember it looking like
that in Windows either although i could easily have missed that.
Regards from Tom :)

My platform is Linux. Distribution is Arch. The build instructions
are here:
http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/libreoffice

I don't see anything specifying the user config dir, so I assume
what I have is the default.

So file a bug with Arch. You can verify where the default config is
installed by:

$ locate versionrc

When you find it:

$ cat path bootstraprc

Example:

/opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc

$ cat /opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
[Bootstrap]
BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
InstallMode=installmode
ProductKey=LibreOffice 3.3
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
[ErrorReport]
ErrorReportPort=80
ErrorReportServer=

You'll see from the above that the standard user configuration files are
installed in ~/.libreoffice/3
(UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3)
so if Arch are putting them in ~/.config/.libreoffice then it's an Arch
issue, not an LO issue you should take it up with them.
...

[libreoffice-users] Re: poor default config path

On 09/14/2011 06:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 So file a bug with Arch. You can verify where the default config is
 installed by:
 
 $ locate versionrc

Correction:

$ locate bootstraprc

Sorry

 
 When you find it:
 
 $ cat path bootstraprc
 
 Example:
 
 /opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
 
 $ cat /opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
 [Bootstrap]
 BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
 InstallMode=installmode
 ProductKey=LibreOffice 3.3
 UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
 [ErrorReport]
 ErrorReportPort=80
 ErrorReportServer=
 
 You'll see from the above that the standard user configuration files are
 installed in ~/.libreoffice/3
 (UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3)
 so if Arch are putting them in ~/.config/.libreoffice then it's an Arch
 issue, not an LO issue  you should take it up with them.
 ...
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)

2011-09-14 Thread Simon Cropper


On 15/09/11 11:05, James wrote:

On 09/14/11 15:55, NoOp wrote:

On 09/14/2011 12:17 PM, James wrote:

On 09/14/11 14:58, JOE Conner wrote:

On 9/14/2011 11:07 AM, James wrote:

1. Create a new Writer document
2. Create a new table (whatever it defaults to (but at least 2 rows))
3. Type 'test' in the top left cell
4. Merge the 1st and 2nd cells in the first column
5. SaveAs (change the format to Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp/2003)
6. Close the document and then open it

The merge is lost.

Can anyone reproduce that?


No problem with LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro. The saved and
open document is the same for me, the merge is preserved.

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA


Thanks.
I guess it works on Windows.
Linux anyone?


Works for me: LO 3.4.3 linux. Also tested by merging the cells in the
rows.
BTW: you might want to let us know which version of LibreOffice you are
using.




3.4.3 for Linux but it is a build for Gentoo from source.



Worked OK with my system.

LibreOffice 3.4.2 OOO340m1 (Build:203) on Ubuntu LTS 10.04

I noted one difference though. In STEP 5 you save as Microsoft Word 
97/2000/xp/2003 -- my system has Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP. A subtle 
difference but maybe you have a different 'Save As...' routine than 
other people.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: merged cells in Writer (saved as Word 97/2000/xp/2003)