Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Rogman I think I can help you with this. LO is currently a 32bit app set, that you, like me, are running on a 64bit O/S. No issue with this as Windows 7 64bit know hows to work with both 32bit and 64bit apps, hence the two Program Files (64bit default app store) and Program files (x86)

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) That 3rd digit is roughly the equivalent of Service pack.  So usually the higher it is the more stable it is.  Of course even just bug-patches and fixes can sometimes introduce unexpected problems that might not get caught by QA.  The best answer, imo, is to keep a very stable version

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Tim That's it, you got it, what I (and all of my customers using LO) are experiencing. And this behaviour happens whether posting from the web or locally from the hard drive. What I find strange, is that if there is already a laid out document (locally), or a web page with text and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi folks Let me embelish a little further as to why it's useful to cut/copy and paste from the spreadsheet input line. I caught myself doing this last night and I now know why I want this feature back. I also tested against this using my wife's laptop running MSO 2010. When one right clicks

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)I had not really noticed that because it was what i expected anyway.  I kinda like it this way because i right-click one pic go to picture change the size, anchor point, wrap, maybe add a url to make it clickable.  Then drag it away and grab the next pic.  So, i like it because i know

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Tom I see for you it works, but the method I am talking about has always been my mentioned process in ALL other version of word processors. As you indicate, you like it this way, and probably have many years of experience in word processing, and have adapted and adopted the way it works

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread la10497
Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected... I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and report builder no more works (crash in opening). thanks anyway for developers work, I remember this is a free sw, at the end Federico Quadri

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base PostgreSQL Transactions

2013-07-26 Thread Don Parris
Thanks for the help. This gives me some idea of the general approach I can take.I very much appreciate it. It probably will still take some time to work out the details, as I am not much of a programmer (though I do dabble). On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

[libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering

2013-07-26 Thread Sina Momken
On 07/25/2013 04:29 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Sina Sina Momken schrieb: Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: LevelExample(desired output)Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3:Chapter 2 3.2-Heading 1 3

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I currently am running 4.0.4 on all my systems - Ubuntu and Windows. Currently, in the pas month, versions 3.6.7 and 4.1.0 have come out. 3.6.7 is the end-of-line release for that line and it very stable, but does not have some of the features of the 4.0.x line. 4.1.0 is the first of that

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-26 3:15 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: So with that bit of tech-ed above out of the way, what this means is it looks like you have only installed the 64bit version of JRE (Java Runtime Edition). LO Base cannot see or use it, hence it showing up in the settings but Base

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Just because 1 person likes it doesn't mean anyone else should.  Even if you don't know exactly when the behaviour changed you can still post a bug-report and just try to let them know roughly the last time you remember the behaviour being the way you liked.  It can be pinned down more

[libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Just wanted to check here before I go open a bug... I just upgraded to 4.1, everything seemed fine, but I encountered a .docx document this morning, and got the dreaded 'General I/O' error. I then tried a bunch of different XML documents (.docx, .xslx, and .pptx), and every one resulted in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-26 3:44 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: When one right clicks on a cell and copies it, the pasting also collects the cell format (it's borders and layout) along with the text/data, If you DOUBLE-click the cell, and then highlight the contents, it does NOT bring the

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think with Base it's better to stay with older branches.  The 3.6.7 might be better.  if the 4.0.3 works for you then stick with that.  Sadly there are still not many devs working on Base.  It's not flashy enough!  Regards from Tom :)  From:

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) My guess is that the default is 64bit or else other apps might need the 64bit version.  It's generally not a good idea to have more than 1 version of Java although even 1 might well be more than you need now.  Accessibility and Base (using the internal back-end) still need it.  Fewer

Re: [libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I sometimes get that from files on the network but when i copy them to local desktop machine they work fine.  I've not really been tracking which versions it happens with.  There seems to be something about the memory settings as higher spec machines with memory settings radically bumped

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think that is the 'problem' isn't it?  Like i said it works out fine for me because i quite like that way but i can easily understand that people might prefer something different! Regards from Tom :)  From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com To: Andrew

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote: My guess is that the default is 64bit or else other apps might need the 64bit version. It's generally not a good idea to have more than 1 version of Java although even 1 might well be more than you need now. The big question is why are the Windows version of LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering

2013-07-26 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Sina, Sina Momken schrieb: On 07/25/2013 04:29 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Sina [..] You do the outline numbering with Chapter, Heading 1 , ... with normal outline numbering. You need to define a paragraph style Chapter and alter the assignment between paragraph style and level in the

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-26 7:54 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Tom Davies wrote: My guess is that the default is 64bit or else other apps might need the 64bit version. It's generally not a good idea to have more than 1 version of Java although even 1 might well be more than you need now.

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Jay Lozier
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:03:43 -0400, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-07-26 7:54 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Tom Davies wrote: My guess is that the default is 64bit or else other apps might need the 64bit version. It's generally not a good idea to have

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering

2013-07-26 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić
On 07/26/2013 11:52 AM, Sina Momken wrote: On 07/25/2013 04:29 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Sina Sina Momken schrieb: Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: LevelExample(desired output)Associated Paragraph Style 1 Chapter 3:Chapter 2

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Customizing Number Format of each level in Writer-Tools-Outline Numbering

2013-07-26 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić
On 07/26/2013 02:34 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote: On 07/26/2013 11:52 AM, Sina Momken wrote: On 07/25/2013 04:29 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Sina Sina Momken schrieb: Let me show you what exact Outline Numbering I want using the example below: LevelExample(desired output)Associated

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-26 8:18 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:03:43 -0400, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-07-26 7:54 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Tom Davies wrote: My guess is that the default is 64bit or else other apps might need

[libreoffice-users] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, Mas has brought up changing the time or day or both of our QA call so I was hoping everyone who regularly participates will comment so we get an idea of where people stand. Ideally of course our goal is to get as many people involved who can contribute to our multitude of projects

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Kracked_P_P Thanks for your input, you reminded me of the memory setting in LO, something I have not touched/adjusted in many a release. I'll try that for the image quantity, but unfortunately the anchor feature is not what I or other users want. It's still a tedious process to place

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi Tanstaafl Agreed for the current case of LO, but I have also found other issues with now emerging 64 bit apps that rely on 64bit Java, hence my suggestion. It was just to alleviate other issues going forward, even to the release we see of a 64bit LO one day. Regards Andrew Brown On

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
I think the Java dev's are aware of this with systems needing two version of bitness in their add-ons or apps, hence the separate installations into two separate folders, as I explained earlier two Program Files (64bit default app store) and Program files (x86) (32bit default app store). Plus

Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with two issue I am finding in LO

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Heh! Heh! Thanks Tanstaafl. You are correct, it works, a good work around indeed. As I thought with my posting here, a fresh set of eyes on something and with a different view, and one is given good advice. But as you said it should ;-) Regards Andrew Brown On 26/07/2013 12:36 PM,

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Hi James Umm!!! factually no, LO is still 32bit on Linux, it just works as seamlessly as I explained in my previous email / post, on a Linux 64bit system, as it does on a Windows 64bit system. I code in my spare time, and I can tell you to change from 32bits of coding to 64bits of coding is

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread James Knott
Andrew Brown wrote: Umm!!! factually no, LO is still 32bit on Linux Then why is there an x86_64 version, when the 32 bit version should also work well? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Joel Madero
On 07/26/2013 10:24 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a month to go over the normal call and get more people in our timezones involved with projects - if this

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
This is a structure from the devs in a file naming convention, indicating its a 32bit app (x86_), that can be installed on a 64bit operating system (_64), not necessarily a 64bit app. And in the case of LO, it's definitely not yet a 64bit app. They still have to code 32bit apps to be

[libreoffice-users] Re: QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a month to go over the normal call and get more people in our timezones involved with projects - if this is a possibility then I can give everyone my

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Agreed, just look at what happens to Outlook, or Thunderbird when the email store starts approaching 4GB on a 32bit system. This was an ongoing support issue in my days of corporate IT support, in trying to get users to purge their old emails and garbage and backup that which they wanted and

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread MR ZenWiz
Not really: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice.bin: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped HTH. MR On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Andrew Brown andre...@icon.co.za wrote: This is a structure from the devs

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Ah!, but we have to have everything digital wroking in 64bit before the year 2036 and 2038. As we of us that went through and were involved in the raw IT support of the Y2K issue will know, which is a pimple on the back of a blue whale, compared to the coming ultimate Y2K. From 2036

[libreoffice-users] Re: QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say we need to balance out our teams! - a couple people from the triage contest were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested. We could go with the

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Andrew Brown
Fine, but that only explains the executable as a 64bit under Linux Standard Base (LSB part in the given reference for those wishing to understand, meaning a standard function through all 'nixes). It's still not the entire LO code base that is 64bit. Regards Andrew Brown On 26/07/2013 07:54

[libreoffice-users] NEW: North American QA Chat - You're Invited!

2013-07-26 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, *NEW: Monthly North American Quality Assurance+ Casual Meet, Greet Get Involved Meeting* Let me start by saying thanks to all of you who are on the user list and try to help each other out, I know the community is strong and growing. As our user base grows, so does the demands on

Re: [libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Girvin R. Herr
FWIW: I do not know the correlation of versions between LO and AOO, but today I got the following two security reports from the AOO users forum: --- CVE-2013-2189 OpenOffice DOC Memory Corruption Vulnerability Severity: Important Vendor:

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Paul
Technically, the x86 indicates the architecture, the 64 indicates the instruction set width. So x86_64 is a 64 bit chip, and the x86_32 is a 32 bit chip. Obviously, when apps (like LO) are marked as x86_64, they mean that it is intended for a 64 bit OS running on a 64 bit chip, as opposed to a 32

Re: [libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am not 100% sure but LO has quietly dealt with a couple of potential threats of that nature quite a long time ago.  The 3.4.0 and i think another in that same line were both quietly being pushed due to some known issue in the 3.3.x line.  Most of us just ignored it and carried on using

Re: [libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Girvin R. Herr wrote (26-07-13 22:57) FWIW: I do not know the correlation of versions between LO and AOO, but today I got the following two security reports from the AOO users forum: FYI: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg09642.html Cheers, Cor -- - Cor Nouws -

Re: [libreoffice-users] Attempting to open any Microsoft XML document causes General I/O error after upgrade to 4.1

2013-07-26 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Girvin R. Herr wrote: --- CVE-2013-2189 and --- CVE-2013-4156 Both are fixed in all current LibreOffice versions. Up-to-date information about security fixes / advisories is always available

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread MR ZenWiz
Good point. :-) However, if I run find on the LO program directory, filter all the files through 'file' and grep out everything with 64 in it, all that remains is ASCII, shell scripts, data files and a few PE32 (and PE32+) python executables that happen to be Windows .exe files that don't run on

[libreoffice-users] Re: QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Mas
On Jul 26, 2013 2:01 PM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say we need to balance out our teams! - a couple people from the triage

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread Paul
Not quite. this is a finite and and absolute wall dominated by the laws of the universe in science and math, and cannot be fixed at all, unlike the original Y2K date issue Well... not really. See, the original issue was that years were only stored as two digits, instead of the complete four.

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1 upgrade from 4.0.4 - now does not find Java

2013-07-26 Thread James Knott
Paul wrote: Technically, the x86 indicates the architecture, the 64 indicates the instruction set width. So x86_64 is a 64 bit chip, and the x86_32 is a 32 bit chip. I thought 32 bit CPUs were referred to as i586.. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org