Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
Jonathan wrote, I think the avoidance of true small caps and old style numbering has more to do with the practice of font creators, most of whom omit these features. That might be true for FLOSS font creators. It is not true for the foundries whose fonts are in the 4+ digit price range. Actually, some standard OpenType fonts come with some expert glyphs standard. For example, Palatino Linotype is a standard Windows font, free with the OS. It includes true small caps and old style numbering in the standard font. Problem is, most programs, LO included, can't access these effects. Last I checked, Word can access the old style numbers, but not the true small caps. Adobe InDesign (at mucho bucks) can access them all. One of the advantages of Tex/LaTeX/XeTeX is its ability to access expert glyphs of various fonts. However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer
At 07:48 09/09/2013 -0400, James Knott wrote: I've had OpenOffice or LibreOffice on work computers that already had MS Office installed. Oh, indeed! But you are hardly a typical user. And I was commenting only on the claim that most of us have both. I also install the various MS viewers on Windows computers that I put LibreOffice or OpenOffice on. Doing this - and leaving the Microsoft Office file types associated with the viewers - is indeed the best way forward for Windows users. That's what I recommend and do. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer
James wrote, Brian Barker wrote: So after a month they would either purchase Microsoft Office and not need LibreOffice or else install LibreOffice and no longer have a functioning copy of Microsoft Office? In neither case would they have both ... I've had OpenOffice or LibreOffice on work computers that already had MS Office installed. I also install the various MS viewers on Windows computers that I put LibreOffice or OpenOffice on. Same here. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: How to Duplicate a Record
I did try dragging in the table view, but I probably did not have a record selected via filter. Thanks for pointing that out specifically. Will try again. cheers, tod On Sep 7, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Paul Lens wrote: Following method works pretty good for me: - open your form; - use the filter (one of the icons on the bottom right of the form window) to select the existing record to duplicate (or to select a small set of records including the intended one); - activate an additional table view (one of the icons on the bottom right of the form window): the selected record(s) appear(s) on top of your form; - simply select the row you want to duplicate (click the green arrow left of the row) and drag it to the bottom of the additional table view (the bottom of this table view contains an empty row marked with the yellow star icon Insert a new record). NB: opening the additional table view without selecting records, and trying to duplicate directly last row of the table does not work, presumably because of to many records. After selection of records, it works every time for me. I don't know if there is a maximum number of records to allow in the selection. Hope this helps, Paul Le 7/09/2013 9:09, Alexander Thurgood a écrit : Le 06/09/13 23:46, T Hopkins a écrit : Hi Tod, I cannot find a method for duplicating a single record or row in a Base table or form. I want to create new records that contain data from an existing record. Any suggestions? Look up clone / copy a record in Base in the openoffice.org user forums: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39t=51613 Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Incorrect handling of time values in O 4.1.1
Hello, I have just filed a bug report regarding erroneous handling of MySQL-time values in LO 4.1.1. It happens both when entering data into a table through Base as well as later on looking at tables/views. This is QUITE serious in my view. On top of that, report builder doesn't run when time values occur in a report. Date values are actually han116dled correctly. The same report executed quite o.k. under 3.6.7. This certainly blocks me from going to 4.1 for production purposes. Please look at bugzilla, bug No. 69116. I am running LO under Debian-Wheezy, 32-bit. Anybody with the same problem? Regards H.S. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] spreadsheet - sum one column based on the value of other
One way to do this is to put in F1: =SUMIF(B2:B5;E1;C2:C5) If instead you put: =SUMIF(B$2:B$5;E1;C$2:C$5) you can even fill it down column F into F2, giving =SUMIF(B$2:B$5;E2;C$2:C$5) Another technique is to put in F1: =SUMPRODUCT(B2:B5=E1;C2:C5) or, again, =SUMPRODUCT(B$2:B$5=E1;C$2:C$5) so you can fill this down into F2. That solves it. Thank you. -- Bruno Schneider -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to create fillable PDF forms in Writer?
Is there a good step by step for this somewhere? Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to create fillable PDF forms in Writer?
For whatever it's worth, this is how I tend to do it: -Create the form as a Writer template -Whenever I need to fill out the form in question, I open a new document based on the template -fill it out as needed, then save as PDF It may take a bit of time to prepare the template, but once it's done you can use it forever... HTH John Herron On 09/09/2013 03:25 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Is there a good step by step for this somewhere? Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since 2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1? Peter HB -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since 2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1? Peter HB I'll speak from some level of technological ignorance. I think the font itself has not been updated in a while, but, what makes the font work with LO and AOO is the Graphite engine. This is where I get real ignorant, but I've found that as LO and AOO are upgraded, they work better with the Linux Libertine G fonts. For example, there is a switch in the font (itlc=2), which provides proper alignment of Italic text next to Roman text. You'll notice that the fontfeatures.pdf website says this switch doesn't work with LO 3.4. That is true; it doesn't. And, up to last week, it didn't work for me with LO 3.6.7. However, I upgraded to LO 4.0.5 and, voila, the switch works. Also, in prior versions of LO, Linux Libertine seemed to cause some crashes, but I haven't experienced a crash since LO 3.6. I don't think this is due to changes in the font, but rather improvements in LO itself. (I won't upgrade to LO 4.1.x until x becomes 5 or higher). Perhaps someone else with knowledge about how LO and Graphite work together can chime in. I just know that every successive version of LO works better with the Libertine G and Biolinium G fonts, much to my delight. It has become my default LO font for both my Windows and Linux partitions on my dual boot system. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to create fillable PDF forms in Writer?
Le 09/09/2013 15:25, Tanstaafl a écrit : Is there a good step by step for this somewhere? easy ;) Creation 1. Create the form using Writer and save it 2. Export it as a PDF, no special option required Usage Using AdobeReader is possible but note that you can't save the filled pdf form. You have to print the form. Obviously, Adobe wants us to purchase their tools g Using third-party tools (eg FoxItReader under MS Windows, many tools under GNU/Linux), you may save the filled form, and even change the data afterwards if necessary. Is this tutorial ok ;) ? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to create fillable PDF forms in Writer?
2013/9/9 Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net Le 09/09/2013 15:25, Tanstaafl a écrit : Is there a good step by step for this somewhere? easy ;) Creation 1. Create the form using Writer and save it 2. Export it as a PDF, no special option required Note that the creation of a PDF form is checked by default, but if at some point it was unchecked, you'll have to enable it again. The PDF export dialog is shown when using the File-Export to PDF. It's not shown when using the toolbar icon. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Freeze in libreoffice
I am using the version of libreoffice packaged by archlinux (version 4.0.4.2 - 64 bits). Sometimes when I open a document, libreoffice freezes and doesn't open the document even if I close all instances running (actually I kill the process with kill -9) and open again. It is not always reproducible. I have attached in gdb and received this backtrace: /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash --writer /path/to/document #0 0x7f95585ca3a8 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x7f9559c2608e in osl_waitCondition () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3 #2 0x7f9559c2c6b8 in osl_joinProcessWithTimeout () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3 #3 0x0040646f in ?? () #4 0x004031fa in ?? () #5 0x7f9559048bc5 in __libc_start_main () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6 #6 0x00403235 in ?? () /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin --writer /path/to/document #0 0x7fc26b63297d in pthread_rwlock_wrlock () from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x7fc26b873d85 in set_binding_values.part.0 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x7fc26b873ebc in bindtextdomain () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x7fc237b7ca27 in gpg_err_init () from /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 #4 0x7fc26c8e98ea in call_init.part.0 () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #5 0x7fc26c8e99d3 in _dl_init_internal () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #6 0x7fc26c8edb38 in dl_open_worker () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #7 0x7fc26c8e9774 in _dl_catch_error () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #8 0x7fc26c8ed32b in _dl_open () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #9 0x7fc26b42402b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 #10 0x7fc26c8e9774 in _dl_catch_error () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 #11 0x7fc26b4245dd in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 #12 0x7fc26b4240c1 in dlopen () from /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 #13 0x7fc26c6be373 in osl_loadModule () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3 #14 0x7fc26ac2378f in cppu::loadSharedLibComponentFactory(rtl::OUString const, rtl::OUString const, rtl::OUString const, com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::lang::XMultiServiceFactory const, com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::registry::XRegistryKey const, rtl::OUString const) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3 #15 0x7fc26abc in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3 #16 0x7fc26abc15ac in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3 #17 0x7fc26abc1726 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3 #18 0x7fc26a0ce5cf in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #19 0x7fc26a0c3184 in sfx2::createBaseURI(com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::uno::XComponentContext const, com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::embed::XStorage const, rtl::OUString const, rtl::OUString const) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #20 0x7fc24d052cbb in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libswlo.so #21 0x7fc24cfaddac in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libswlo.so #22 0x7fc24d0aa7cf in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libswlo.so #23 0x7fc26a16b25b in SfxObjectShell::LoadOwnFormat(SfxMedium) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #24 0x7fc26a179998 in SfxObjectShell::DoLoad(SfxMedium*) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #25 0x7fc26a1a770c in SfxBaseModel::load(com::sun::star::uno::Sequencecom::sun::star::beans::PropertyValue const) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #26 0x7fc26a1f9f2d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsfxlo.so #27 0x7fc25564f2da in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libfwklo.so #28 0x7fc25564fb58 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libfwklo.so #29 0x7fc2555c9de5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libfwklo.so #30 0x7fc2555ca418 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/../program/libfwklo.so #31 0x7fc26b19aa55 in comphelper::SynchronousDispatch::dispatch(com::sun::star::uno::Referencecom::sun::star::uno::XInterface const, rtl::OUString const, rtl::OUString const, int, com::sun::star::uno::Sequencecom::sun::star::beans::PropertyValue const) () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libcomphelpgcc3.so #32 0x7fc26c447c5c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsofficeapp.so #33 0x7fc26c454332 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsofficeapp.so #34 0x7fc26c42df8e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsofficeapp.so #35 0x7fc26c42f1c1 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libsofficeapp.so #36 0x7fc2683e5d3b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvcllo.so #37
Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't print basic macro code
2013/9/5 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org I ran a test with 4.1.1.1 on Fedora The previous seemed to show the Object Catalog rather than the macro itself. The final printed thing is exactly as you state. On 09/05/2013 11:31 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: Ubuntu 12.04 LO 3.5.7.2 When I go to the built in basic ide and try to print the code for a macro all I get is an almost blank page. What is see is an outline of a box printed at the margins with the full name of the macro at the top but the rest of the page is blank with no code printed. I can of course cut and paste to another editor, but I wonder if anyone else sees this or maybe I am doing something wrong? Regards, Jim As a workaround, you could save the macro as a text file, open the textfile in your favourite text editor and print it from there… Johnny Rosenberg -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since 2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1? Peter HB I'll speak from some level of technological ignorance. I think the font itself has not been updated in a while, but, what makes the font work with LO and AOO is the Graphite engine. This is where I get real ignorant, but I've found that as LO and AOO are upgraded, they work better with the Linux Libertine G fonts. For example, there is a switch in the font (itlc=2), which provides proper alignment of Italic text next to Roman text. You'll notice that the fontfeatures.pdf website says this switch doesn't work with LO 3.4. That is true; it doesn't. And, up to last week, it didn't work for me with LO 3.6.7. However, I upgraded to LO 4.0.5 and, voila, the switch works. Also, in prior versions of LO, Linux Libertine seemed to cause some crashes, but I haven't experienced a crash since LO 3.6. I don't think this is due to changes in the font, but rather improvements in LO itself. (I won't upgrade to LO 4.1.x until x becomes 5 or higher). Perhaps someone else with knowledge about how LO and Graphite work together can chime in. I just know that every successive version of LO works better with the Libertine G and Biolinium G fonts, much to my delight. It has become my default LO font for both my Windows and Linux partitions on my dual boot system. Virgil I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is displaying and printing better than the last one, some some people. The graphics engine that renders the fonts is improving. I too use LO for both my Linux and Windows systems. I have not installed any non-trial version of MSO since MSO2003. As a font person, I use a lot of specialty fonts over the years. So the better the package works with fonts, the better it is for me. I use to have to take some fonts and change them to JPG files just to use them in document. Now that is almost a thing of the past, depending how complex the font actually is. As for not using those two font families, well, I have over 14 GB of fonts in my font collection and I try to stay below 400 installed fonts at any time. We are talking about 40 font files for the two, if you included all of different styles. So I am not installing most of them right now. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Incorrect handling of time values in O 4.1.1
Heinrich , same sort of problems with Windows, datetime values are scrambled sinds 4.1 it is still not defined if this problem is comming from the MySQL Connector or its due to how do you connect to your MySQL server ? Hello, I have just filed a bug report regarding erroneous handling of MySQL-time values in LO 4.1.1. It happens both when entering data into a table through Base as well as later on looking at tables/views. This is QUITE serious in my view. On top of that, report builder doesn't run when time values occur in a report. Date values are actually han116dled correctly. The same report executed quite o.k. under 3.6.7. This certainly blocks me from going to 4.1 for production purposes. +1 Please look at bugzilla, bug No. 69116. I am running LO under Debian-Wheezy, 32-bit. Anybody with the same problem? Regards H.S. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: [snip, snip] I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is displaying and printing better than the last one, some some people. The graphics engine that renders the fonts is improving. I too use LO for both my Linux and Windows systems. I have not installed any non-trial version of MSO since MSO2003. As a font person, I use a lot of specialty fonts over the years. So the better the package works with fonts, the better it is for me. I use to have to take some fonts and change them to JPG files just to use them in document. Now that is almost a thing of the past, depending how complex the font actually is. As for not using those two font families, well, I have over 14 GB of fonts in my font collection and I try to stay below 400 installed fonts at any time. We are talking about 40 font files for the two, if you included all of different styles. So I am not installing most of them right now. While I love playing with fonts, I'm mostly interested in good book style fonts, time-proven classics like Garamond, Goudy Old Style, or Century Schoolbook. While Times New Roman is the most ubiquitous, at least in the Windows world, it's condensed nature doesn't lend itself to long-term comfortable reading. That said, Robert Bringhurst, in his book, The Elements of Typographic Style, says it's better to use a font like Times if you have all the expert effects, than to use a better font without them. This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after Times, it's not quite as condensed, so it works better for longer documents. But, with LO, one has access to all sorts of expert effects, making it a full featured typeface. While I might prefer a different font, I'd rather use Libertine to full effect than a less complete Garamond. Another excellent free typeface is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy. It uses old style numbering by default. But, it lacks a boldface font. www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/sorts-mill-goudy Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since 2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1? [cut] I seem to have been misunderstood. My query referred to the Typography Toolbar extension and a little searching found the current version for LO 4.x. Sorry for the noise. Peter HB -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 05:59 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite its Linux name, the font works just as well in Windows.) http://www.numbertext.org/linux/ (Libertine has an equally excellent companion sans-serif font, Linux Bolinium G) Using the advanced features requires adding extensions to the font name, such as Linux Libertine G:onum=1 to use old style numbers. Various extensions are separated by the ampersand (). It can be a little cumbersome at first, but there is an excellent guide at: www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf The Typography Toolbar extension makes its use easier. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo This looks very useful, but I note that it hasn't been updated since 2010 and OOo (LO?) 3.4. Is it known to function with LO 4.1? [cut] I seem to have been misunderstood. My query referred to the Typography Toolbar extension and a little searching found the current version for LO 4.x. Sorry for the noise. Peter HB Sorry for the confusion. The Typography Toolbar itself is simply a graphic way of accessing the expert features of Linux Libertine G. I rarely use it as I control everything through styles and simply type in the features I want in the font name box. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Incorrect handling of time values in O 4.1.1
Bon Soir, Fernand, I connect to the database using the native MySQL connector. Regards H.S. On Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:30:24 +0200, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: Heinrich , same sort of problems with Windows, datetime values are scrambled sinds 4.1 it is still not defined if this problem is comming from the MySQL Connector or its due to how do you connect to your MySQL server ? Hello, I have just filed a bug report regarding erroneous handling of MySQL-time values in LO 4.1.1. It happens both when entering data into a table through Base as well as later on looking at tables/views. This is QUITE serious in my view. On top of that, report builder doesn't run when time values occur in a report. Date values are actually han116dled correctly. The same report executed quite o.k. under 3.6.7. This certainly blocks me from going to 4.1 for production purposes. +1 Please look at bugzilla, bug No. 69116. I am running LO under Debian-Wheezy, 32-bit. Anybody with the same problem? Regards H.S. -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: [snip, snip] This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after Times, it's not quite as condensed, so it works better for longer documents. But, with LO, one has access to all sorts of expert effects, making it a full featured typeface. While I might prefer a different font, I'd rather use Libertine to full effect than a less complete Garamond. Another excellent free typeface is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy. It uses old style numbering by default. But, it lacks a boldface font. www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/sorts-mill-goudy Virgil I haven't followed this thread closely, but I need a little more information on the Linux libertine font. Here's what I find on my PCLINUXOS distro using filefinder for *libertine* : file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_RZ_G.ttf file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_RI_G.ttf file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_RBI_G.ttf file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_RZI_G.ttf file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_R_G.ttf file:///opt/libreoffice3.6/share/fonts/truetype/LinLibertine_RB_G.ttf file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/font-change/font_libertine_kp.tex file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/font-change/font_libertine_palatino.tex file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/font-change/font_libertine_times.tex file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/alias/libertine file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex4ht/ht-fonts/unicode/libertine file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typescripts/type-linuxlibertine.mkii file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typescripts/type-linuxlibertine.mkiv file:///usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/typescripts/type-linuxlibertine.tex --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: [snip, snip] I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is displaying and printing better than the last one, some some people. The graphics engine that renders the fonts is improving. I too use LO for both my Linux and Windows systems. I have not installed any non-trial version of MSO since MSO2003. As a font person, I use a lot of specialty fonts over the years. So the better the package works with fonts, the better it is for me. I use to have to take some fonts and change them to JPG files just to use them in document. Now that is almost a thing of the past, depending how complex the font actually is. As for not using those two font families, well, I have over 14 GB of fonts in my font collection and I try to stay below 400 installed fonts at any time. We are talking about 40 font files for the two, if you included all of different styles. So I am not installing most of them right now. While I love playing with fonts, I'm mostly interested in good book style fonts, time-proven classics like Garamond, Goudy Old Style, or Century Schoolbook. While Times New Roman is the most ubiquitous, at least in the Windows world, it's condensed nature doesn't lend itself to long-term comfortable reading. That said, Robert Bringhurst, in his book, The Elements of Typographic Style, says it's better to use a font like Times if you have all the expert effects, than to use a better font without them. This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after Times, it's not quite as condensed, so it works better for longer documents. But, with LO, one has access to all sorts of expert effects, making it a full featured typeface. While I might prefer a different font, I'd rather use Libertine to full effect than a less complete Garamond. Another excellent free typeface is OFL Sorts Mill Goudy. It uses old style numbering by default. But, it lacks a boldface font. www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/sorts-mill-goudy Virgil The big thing about having a very large collection of fonts, is you can from time to time find one that works better for a job than than the one you used before. Also, if you need to use a specific font for a document/project, you either have it or can find one that will work 99% as well. It has been a long time since I did any real comparison between fonts, serif to serif, sans to sans, etc., but there are sites out there with list of alternative fonts. I usually have one of these alternatives. I also have a full Adobe font library from the mid-to-late 2000's. I jeep the Type-One fonts in a compressed folder and only keep the TTF and OTF ones to compare to from time to time. I have downloaded a few of the The League Of. . . fonts before, any I believe I have that Goudy one as well. I do not want to go looking for it right now. I am not actively adding to me collection anymore, except for some really specialty fonts Tom Davis [on these lists] can tell you about some of them. Things like letters made up of bones for Halloween and other interestingly designed ones for the other holidays in the USA. If you love trains, I have a collection of train related fonts as well. BUT, for the most part, 80% of the Serif fonts looks a lot like a large number of other Serif ones. The same goes for San-Serif. When you get down to it, there are some good free fonts out there that are 99% similar to paid ones. I prefer to use free ones. I use the MS-Core fonts that are included with most Linux installs, when dealing with MS Office people and their documents. They seem to prefer that for some reason. . . One day, I will start going through my fonts and start comparing them again. But that is a long long process. I hope to find a comprehensive font comparison site one of these days so I do not need to do all this by hand. As for book fonts and such, as my book editor friend tells me, if the publisher prefers to publish the books in a certain font family, then you use that font family for your documents. They should have spent a lot of time and money deciding which fonts work with which type of books and content. So I will not challenge their efforts. For myself, if I decide to, I will take a paragraph to a page worth of text and print it out with various font types and styles to see which one works best for me and those I show the pages to. My idea of easy reading might not be others, with Dyslexia and 3 strokes to muddle my brain with. Actually there are some specific fonts created for people like me [with my brain issues] for easier reading that the standard book fonts. As for books about fonts and typography, well I have only one and that was printed when word processing was in its early stages and there was not many fonts to choose from.
