Re: [libreoffice-users] news about LibreOffice

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Being wiki-pages means it's possible for anyone to contribute.  I like the
variety of having some articles quite long but others being just really
tiny snippets.

So far it's all the work of just 1 chap but i am sure he would be willing
to help people with wiki-mark-up if they did join in with things.  Also
there are other people here and on the Documentation Team's mailing list
who would be able to help.  Another option is for people to quietly post
their items and then leave it for the main man to find them and do some
styling.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 23 July 2014 20:32, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-07-23 18:10 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

 Hi :)
 Wow!!  Just found this excellent page
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3
 by William Gathoye

 It is not always 100% perfect English but it's a great read and has some
 quite compelling sections.  For example;

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#LibreOffice_for_Mobile_will_be_soon_a_reality
 which i really hadn't realised at all.  I thought there was a major
 blocker
 preventing this and that on-top of having to re-write 100% of the coding
 first.  However it now seems that only 10% of the code needs re-writing!
 The UI issue seems a lot less of a problem too!

 I wish that instead of the issues being 1, 2, 3 they gave the date,
 perhaps
 in reverse order such as

 2014-07-07
 2014-07-14
 2014-07-21

 but it is MUCH easier to see those things in hindsight and it probably
 wouldn't have occurred to me at the time either.  Luckily it is fairly
 easy
 to set-up new pages, copypaste contents and then set-up redirects from
 the
 old pages.

 The bit i never figure out is how to get the table-of-contents at the
 beginning of the page.

 Just out of curiosity can it be floated off to a different side?  (Even if
 it can it's probably better to keep it where it is to make it consistent
 with the other wiki-pages)


 It looks like a huge amount of work has gone into this and it's really
 great to see it collect together information from so many mailing lists.

 Good work William!
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 ​It does indeed look like an excellent source of information, Tom - thanks
 for the heads-up !​


 ​Henri



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sadly attachments don't reach all the people on the mailing list.  You can
upload it somewhere and give us a link.  Nabble is a good way of doing it
because it injects the right coding directly into the message-box for you
and lets you edit it or move it around.

To get to Nabble from the main LibreOffice site go through the getting help
page and somewhere around where it talks about mailing-lists it gives a
link to Nabble.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 23 July 2014 20:21, v...@ukr.net wrote:

   Hello!
   I have a problem: it is impossible to reduce the spacing in the LO
 Math settings.

  I go to Format -- Spacing... , then choose Borders in the
 Category drop-down list, and see that the settings are:

 Left: 125.93mm
 Right: 249.32mm
 Top: 249.37mm
 Bottom: 1.03mm

 and I cannot reduce them (see attached screenshot). Is this a bug?
 And what is more important -- is there a way out of this terrible
 situation?

   Regards,
 Vladimir

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Re: [libreoffice-users] news about LibreOffice

2014-07-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello there,

The goal of LOWN (it might become a monthly thing) is to collaboratively edit 
news of the project for project members. People are welcome to join the effort 
:-)

Best,

Charles.

On 23 juillet 2014 21:54:04 CEST, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi :)
Being wiki-pages means it's possible for anyone to contribute.  I like
the
variety of having some articles quite long but others being just
really
tiny snippets.

So far it's all the work of just 1 chap but i am sure he would be
willing
to help people with wiki-mark-up if they did join in with things.  Also
there are other people here and on the Documentation Team's mailing
list
who would be able to help.  Another option is for people to quietly
post
their items and then leave it for the main man to find them and do some
styling.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 23 July 2014 20:32, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-07-23 18:10 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

 Hi :)
 Wow!!  Just found this excellent page
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3
 by William Gathoye

 It is not always 100% perfect English but it's a great read and has
some
 quite compelling sections.  For example;


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LOWN/3#LibreOffice_for_Mobile_will_be_soon_a_reality
 which i really hadn't realised at all.  I thought there was a major
 blocker
 preventing this and that on-top of having to re-write 100% of the
coding
 first.  However it now seems that only 10% of the code needs
re-writing!
 The UI issue seems a lot less of a problem too!

 I wish that instead of the issues being 1, 2, 3 they gave the date,
 perhaps
 in reverse order such as

 2014-07-07
 2014-07-14
 2014-07-21

 but it is MUCH easier to see those things in hindsight and it
probably
 wouldn't have occurred to me at the time either.  Luckily it is
fairly
 easy
 to set-up new pages, copypaste contents and then set-up redirects
from
 the
 old pages.

 The bit i never figure out is how to get the table-of-contents at
the
 beginning of the page.

 Just out of curiosity can it be floated off to a different side? 
(Even if
 it can it's probably better to keep it where it is to make it
consistent
 with the other wiki-pages)


 It looks like a huge amount of work has gone into this and it's
really
 great to see it collect together information from so many mailing
lists.

 Good work William!
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 ​It does indeed look like an excellent source of information, Tom -
thanks
 for the heads-up !​


 ​Henri



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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-24 Thread Mark Stanton
As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie 
law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government 
necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems 
to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-24 Thread Vitorio Delage
Hello,

Also you may have a scale option in your printer driver. But this is vendor 
dependent. We have this option in Canon drivers for iRC5045, but not for Xerox 
WorkCenter 5330 (our photocopiers/printers).

The PDF option is 2 steps but universal, as Preview.app will then be able to 
scale down your document without problems.

Cheers,

Vitorio Delage

Académie nationale de médecine
Gestion du parc informatique

Le 24 juil. 2014 à 03:10, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com a écrit :

 Hi.
 May not be the most elegant way, but use the PDF button to create a PDF and 
 print that to one page.
 Steve
 
 On 2014-07-24 12:55, Truett Bobo wrote:
 I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to print 
 on one page.  How can I scale it to accomplish this?
 
 I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice.
 
 Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Calc charts, data in record form

2014-07-24 Thread dave boland
All,

Looks like I will be keeping my data in Calc for a while - until we have
a better idea of what we want (changing a database is a lot of work).

However, I need to do some charts, and I have not figured out how to get
Calc to give me what I want, so I need a pointer or two.  I want line
charts, with multiple curves per axis (up to 8).  Perhaps something like
this: http://www.indiabix.com/data-interpretation/line-charts/

The data is arranged in record format like this:

Date  Location  TemperatureHumidity
- - -- -
7/1/14Syracuse  71   79%
7/1/14Albany68   70%
7/1/14Rochester 69   70%
7/8/14Syracuse  82   68%
7/8/14Albany79   67%
7/8/14Rochester 75   66%

So how do I end up with one chart that shows three curves for the three
cities over time (Location and Date on the X-axis, Temperature on the
Y-axis)?  I have looked at the docs amd did some Googling, but so far
I'm stumped.  I know that someone has done this, so there is likely a
very easy want to do it.

Dave.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc charts, data in record form

2014-07-24 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:37 24/07/2014 -0400, Dave Boland wrote:
... I need to do some charts, and I have not figured out how to get 
Calc to give me what I want, so I need a pointer or two.  I want 
line charts, with multiple curves per axis (up to 8).  Perhaps 
something like this: http://www.indiabix.com/data-interpretation/line-charts/


The data is arranged in record format like this:

Date  Location  TemperatureHumidity
- - -- -
7/1/14Syracuse  71   79%
7/1/14Albany68   70%
7/1/14Rochester 69   70%
7/8/14Syracuse  82   68%
7/8/14Albany79   67%
7/8/14Rochester 75   66%

So how do I end up with one chart that shows three curves for the 
three cities over time (Location and Date on the X-axis, Temperature 
on the Y-axis)?


Er, you presumably want just the date on the horizontal axis, with 
locations represented by separate lines.


What you need to do is to assemble a table in an appropriate fashion 
for a chart to be possible. You will probably want four columns - for 
dates and the three locations - with the temperature values in the 
body of the table. That way, there would be one row for each date. 
Creating the chart from this would be simple.


So how to achieve that table? Well, one way would be simply to enter 
the data that way in the first place. However the data arises, it may 
be most convenient to massage it into the required form as you enter 
it. Note that the way you are currently entering data, you have each 
date entered three times and each location very many times. That's 
never a good idea. How many weeks before you enter Sryacuse by mistake?


Alternatively, you can simply extract what you need from your 
existing table into the required one. Your date column would be 
entered manually or - better if appropriate - filled down from the 
first two weeks' dates. The body of the table would then have 
formulae which retrieved the appropriate data from the original 
table. You might be able to do this using the VLOOKUP() function, but 
it won't be simple, as you have two conditions to search for: date 
and location. The simplest solution might be to sort your original 
table by location (or you could enter the data into three tables in 
the first place), and then to use VLOOKUP() to search for the 
appropriate date and harvest the temperature value from within just 
the relevant part of the original table - that now containing the 
values for each location.


It's probably very much easier if you create three tables in the 
first place - one for each location.



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Really? So it sends your mail more quickly than other systems? Wow!

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc charts, data in record form

2014-07-24 Thread dave boland
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
 At 10:37 24/07/2014 -0400, Dave Boland wrote:

 
 Er, you presumably want just the date on the horizontal axis, with 
 locations represented by separate lines.
 
 What you need to do is to assemble a table in an appropriate fashion 
 for a chart to be possible. You will probably want four columns - for 
 dates and the three locations - with the temperature values in the 
 body of the table. That way, there would be one row for each date. 
 Creating the chart from this would be simple.
 
 So how to achieve that table? Well, one way would be simply to enter 
 the data that way in the first place. However the data arises, it may 
 be most convenient to massage it into the required form as you enter 
 it. Note that the way you are currently entering data, you have each 
 date entered three times and each location very many times. That's 
 never a good idea. How many weeks before you enter Sryacuse by mistake?
 
 Alternatively, you can simply extract what you need from your 
 existing table into the required one. Your date column would be 
 entered manually or - better if appropriate - filled down from the 
 first two weeks' dates. The body of the table would then have 
 formulae which retrieved the appropriate data from the original 
 table. You might be able to do this using the VLOOKUP() function, but 
 it won't be simple, as you have two conditions to search for: date 
 and location. The simplest solution might be to sort your original 
 table by location (or you could enter the data into three tables in 
 the first place), and then to use VLOOKUP() to search for the 
 appropriate date and harvest the temperature value from within just 
 the relevant part of the original table - that now containing the 
 values for each location.
 
 It's probably very much easier if you create three tables in the 
 first place - one for each location.
 
Brian,

Thanks for the insight.  The way the data is set up is legacy in that it
is from a form used previously.  The intent was to create database-like
records where data from 12 cities is updated each week.  To help
eliminate entry mistakes, I use validation so Syracuse never becomes
something else.

I have made some progress playing with chart settings, but still not
where I need to be.  I will give the lookup functions a try.

Dave,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-24 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:55:21 -0700
Truett Bobo beaube...@cheerful.com wrote:

 I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to print on
 one page.  How can I scale it to accomplish this?
 
 I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice.
 
 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

This will depend on your printer.  I can't give specific advice regarding Mac
OS as I use Linux but their MAY be a scaling menu in the printer driver.

The scale ratio would be 2:1.  22 x 17 (tabloid) paper is twice the size of 11
x 8.5 (letter) paper.  Discrepancies in driver software may require a bit of
experimentation to determine what would fit best.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] a step in the right direction

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
I don't think it's law.  I think it's suggested best-practice and general
guidelines.  A bit like the Ferengi's Rules of Acquisition or the
pirate's code, hopefully.  Plenty of people will argue against using it, or
make excuses or plead ignorance or just not do it = However it's still a
fantastic step forwards and one i never expected to see.  I'm still kinda
in shock about it tbh.

Did anyone else here manage to make comments during the public consultation
phases?  I made a 'few' at the first one but then the whole proposal
vanished from view so i thought it would be the usual story.  I think
maybe people at MS haven't realised what it means or they underestimated it
or something.  I really don't understand why they didn't bulldoze it out of
the way or turn it upside down by bamboozling non-IT people in government.
Like i say i am pleasantly shocked and that makes me question about how
effective it's likely to be in getting people to use formats that can be
used by different programs on different platforms and on into the future.
Maybe i am just too old and cynical but it's a bit weird to see a
government doing the right thing!!
Regards from
Tom :)




On 24 July 2014 09:08, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote:

 As I understand it this is now official government procedure, ie
 law. Isn't that the case? I also understand that not all government
 necessarily wants to abide by its own laws, but this directive seems
 to be binding. Or have I misunderstod the intention?

 Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is that 22 inches by 17 inches??!!??  That is a huge document!  Is it huge
and trying to print to hundreds of pages or does it just go over a little
bit and try to print to 4 or less pages?  Print Preview is handy for
figuring that out.  If it is just a little bit over then simply choosing a
different page-size might do the trick.  From the menus;
Format - Page - Page (it's about the 2nd tab in the pop-up)
then the drop-down menu at the very top should say something like
US Letter  or
A4
It is probably on US Letter and just needs to be changed to A4.  For
some reason computers set-up throughout the rest of the world (well, at
least quite a few places but NOT  everywhere) are all set to the US
Letter despite that size paper only being available in the US (and maybe
Canada but not many other places).  The entire rest of the world (ok, again
probably not absolutely everywhere) have agreed to standardise on A4 and
metric systems.

A4 is roughly 12 by   8   (more precisely it's 11.69 by 8.27) = or in
metric systems that is 29.7cm by 21cm
A3 is roughly 18 by 12
and LibreOffice doesn't easily let me go to A2 or larger unless i could
create my own customised size that large.

Recently i had to shrink an A4 down to A5 and stumbled around a bit.
Eventually copying it all into Draw and then selecting everything on the
page allowed me to grab the green corner and resize everything.  Using the
Shift key when resizing makes the aspect-ratio stay the same so the text
and images don't get warped.

This worked really well with all the various images in my poster but i
think i had done something wrong with my text-frames in Writer as i then
had to select each line of text, right-click and choose Size and position
(or something) and then untick the 2 boxes that force the text to stay the
same absolute size and then tick the box that let them change size
according to the size of the frame they were in.  Luckily i only had 27
lines to do so it was fairly quick but i've been meaning to write in to
find out what i had done wrong, or rather to find out how to do the right
thing in the first place to make text-frames resize properly.

Regards form
Tom :)




On 24 July 2014 09:29, Vitorio Delage v.del...@academie-medecine.fr wrote:

 Hello,

 Also you may have a scale option in your printer driver. But this is
 vendor dependent. We have this option in Canon drivers for iRC5045, but not
 for Xerox WorkCenter 5330 (our photocopiers/printers).

 The PDF option is 2 steps but universal, as Preview.app will then be able
 to scale down your document without problems.

 Cheers,

 Vitorio Delage

 Académie nationale de médecine
 Gestion du parc informatique

 Le 24 juil. 2014 à 03:10, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com a
 écrit :

  Hi.
  May not be the most elegant way, but use the PDF button to create a PDF
 and print that to one page.
  Steve
 
  On 2014-07-24 12:55, Truett Bobo wrote:
  I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to
 print on one page.  How can I scale it to accomplish this?
 
  I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change spacing in Math

2014-07-24 Thread electric_reality
  Thank you, Regina!
  Indeed my problem looks exactly as it is described in those
bug-reports. I still use the 4.2.3.3 version. I'll try to update as
soon as possible.

Vladimir

 On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 01:22:55 +0200
Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Which version do you use. There was the bug 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75525 and the bug 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77706.
 


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[libreoffice-users] MAIL MERGE: Default fields Topic and Subject are only printed in first document

2014-07-24 Thread Sven Schüring
Hi,

I've some trouble with the default fields Topic and Subject of the
document properties.
They are only printed in the first mail merge document if I set the field
to the document.
At the following documents there are only whitespace.

Can anyone confirm my problem?
Is it a bug or a misused by myself?

regards
Sven

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Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-24 Thread Doug


On 07/24/2014 07:35 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Is that 22 inches by 17 inches??!!??

/snip/

22x17 is what we call in the US B-size. 8½x11 is A-size, and B-size is
just twice that. C-size is twice B-size, and so on up thru E-size, then the
system is modified.

Probably the output is meant for a printer that can print B-size. Or
a plotter.

--doug

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