Re: [libreoffice-users] background images in business cards

2016-12-21 Thread Don Myers
Hi Peter,
In the download section at World Label, there are templates for
OpenOffice/LibreOffice. These are table style templates, and they work
beautifully.

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook 
wrote:

> On 21/12/16 22:56, Gary Dale wrote:
> > This is ridiculous. I've just been reading a question from a 2008 (3.2)
> > version of OpenOffice.org that is the same as my current problem. Namely
> > that you can't place images in the background on a business card.
> >
> > I'm using LibreOffice 5.2 (Debian) and when I insert an image, it
> > refuses to go behind the text whether I select Arrange | Send to back or
> > Wrap | wrap through. It will go behind the text if I select Wrap | in
> > background but then it disappears. And no, before you ask, the paragraph
> > fill is set to none.
> >
> > I finally found a setting in Format | Page | Transparency where setting
> > the transparency to 100% worked. Strangely the original setting was 50%
> > which resulted in the background image being hidden completely. A quick
> > experiment revealed that ANY setting other than 100% hid the background
> > image.
> >
> > I have no idea what this "feature" is for but it seems completely
> > unintuitive and in conflict with the paragraph background setting, not
> > to mention the wrap in background feature.
> >
> > So my beef is:
> > 1) Arrange doesn't appear to work on labels,
> > 2) wrap through doesn't appear to work on labels,
> > 3) there seems to be a page background that is in front of any
> > background image,
> > 4) the transparency setting for that page background only has two values
> > - 100% or opaque, and
> > 5) this situation has been around for at least 8 years without being
> fixed.
> >
> > Why can't the developers address these basic problems?
>
> If you use a table for your layout then placing an image in the
> background behaves as you would wish. Sadly LibreOffice uses a
> frame-based layout for labels and that might be where your problem lies.
>
> I do not experience problems with my Avery business card stock using the
> table based approach.
>
> Peter HB
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu

2015-01-26 Thread Don Myers
I didn't realize that this was a specific printer issue. Sorry. I've moved
to the higher end Epson printers, such as the Work-Force WP-4530 after
reliability issues with last few HP's I had. Other than for 1 minor
scanning issue, they have worked great with Ubuntu, and have worked great
printing! There are updated drivers now, but haven't taken the time to play
with them.

Don

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 01/26/2015 06:02 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Yeh i have Cups installed but this Oki printer is annoying even on
 Windows.  For the other Oki printer the company were kind enough to
 include a Ppd file on their installer Cd and on their website so all i
 needed to do there was double-click on that file.

 Mostly Hewlett Packard printers work well with almsot anything.  As it
 happens they tend to be a LOT more rugged and last a lot longer with a
 lot less maintenance.  Also inks and toners tend to cost a lot less.
 So running costs tend to be a lot lower but ymmv.  Sadly a lot of
 businesses see ancient Hp's in other people's offices and fancy
 getting something a bit more modern looking and shiny.  They don't
 seem to think about why all other makes tend to look a lot newer.


 HP third-party ink are hit or miss for working properly - due to the new
 chips added to their ink cartridges.  Their ink tank technology is a bit
 different so it is easier to get the non-OEM ink to work.

 Canon third-party ink seems to not have as much issues.

 Yes, the newer Canon printers are getting more hit or miss for Linux
 support.  Also, there are dependency issues for the older printers on 14.04
 and above so that the photos and images colors are really off.  This
 desktop is still using 13.xx based OS since my default photo printer has
 that issue.  The newest fax printer [plus photos] does not have that issue,
 but it does not have the best tray to use for ease of switching photo paper
 to various sizes.




  Cannon are a bit hitmiss.  It's difficult to figure out which
 companies are good and which tend to be a bit rubbish.  Sometimes the
 Ppd driver file is on the European version of a company's website but
 blocked from being accessed in the US or some other countries!  Some
 printers only need a little bit of work to get them working.  Lots
 work easily but an annoying amount are still very tricky.

 Also it can vary a LOT between different models.  It's not even a case
 that newer models work better so it's not easy to predict which will
 work and which is going to be troublesome.

 I'd just about given up on ever getting the Oki C810 to ever work and
 just relied on using the Oki MB471 instead, until i installed Kubuntu
 and noticed it getting some sort of response from the C810.


 If i have a choice over which type of printer to get i go with Hewlett
 Packard.  I did sign the petition against them investing so much in
 drone technology that has been known (apparently) to kill innocent
 civilians and generally terrorise people and invading their privacy.
 However a LOT of tech companies are guilty of that.  The petition i
 signed covered a lot of them.

 I think it might help if more of us grumble directly to manufacturers
 and point out that with the rise of Android, Chrome,  iThings (and
 others) that they need to start support non-Windows systems more
 reliably.  People might stop buying printers that don't work with most
 of the systems they use!

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 Chrome/Android and printers - bad news if you do not have a Windows system
 to host the print server.






 On 25 January 2015 at 23:38, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though
 14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term
 Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the
 standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups
 installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean
 installs,
 and not upgrades.

 Don

 On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

  Hi :)
 I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
 forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
 gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
 what has replaced it.


 At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
 Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.

 With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
 fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
 now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
 photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine.

 The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
 C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
 them seem to work.  Actually i have

Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing from Linux, Kubuntu/Ubuntu

2015-01-25 Thread Don Myers
Hi,

I've been running Ubuntu since 8.10, and have had every version though
14.04. Since 14.10 had minimal changes and since 14.04 is a Long Term
Service release, I didn't upgrade to 14.10. Every version has been the
standard, including all of the versions with Unity. All have had cups
installed in the standard install. I almost always have done clean
installs, and not upgrades.

Don

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:39 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:

 2015-01-21 14:02 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

  Hi :)
  I am just hoping some kind person will signpost me to the proper
  forums so that they can help me with a couple of printing issues.  I
  gather that CUPS is no longer used but i'm not sure and i don't know
  what has replaced it.
 
 
  At last my work-place has a couple of machines entirely using just
  Kubuntu/Ubuntu and no Windows at all.
 
  With Kubuntu LibreOffice couldn't open files on the file-server but i
  fudged it by installing the whole Ubuntu DE (Unity DE and tweaks) and
  now people have no problems using Kubuntu.  Printing to the
  photocopier or the BW laser printer is fine.
 
  The only problem is trying to print to the colour printer, an Oki
  C810, for which there seem to be hundreds of linux drivers but none of
  them seem to work.  Actually i have only tried about a dozen drivers
  but it's tricky to test them especially if my boss is around.
 
  Also although the Kubuntu machines have no trouble printing to the BW
  photocopier but Ubuntu ones can't cope.  I have no idea how to find
  the drivers on the Kubuntu machines and copy them onto the Ubuntu
  ones.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)


 ​Tom have you tried this link : ​
 http://foo2hiperc.rkkda.com/
 ​ ? I'm told it works on Ubuntu

 With regard to CUPS, if I don't misremember, those file were automatically
 installed on my (64-bit) Linux Mint 17.1, so I'm a tad surprised to hear
 that they weren't on Ubuntu 14.04 even if, admittedly, the two distros are
 not entirely identical

 Henri​

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Uninstalling LO 4.3.0.4 from Ubuntu 14.04

2014-08-26 Thread Don Myers
Hi All,

I've always done the following to cleanly remove the Repository version and
install the Document Foundation Version as per:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/180403/how-to-uninstall-libreoffice

sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove



On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

 have you tried libreoffice*

 Cheers


 On 26/08/14 16:38, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

 I installed 4.3.0.4 from the deb packages. I now wish to uninstall and
 revert to the official Ubuntu-supplied version.
 Using either

 sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice

 or

 sudo dpkg -P libreoffice

 I get the dreaded
 dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libreoffice which isn't
 installed

 How can I uninstall 4.3.0.4?

 Cheers

 Gordon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book

2014-04-18 Thread Don Myers
In 2013, Chomebooks accounted for 21% of the notebook sales.

If the printer does not show up on the list, generally you can still
install it anyway. There is an option which allows for unsupported
printers. A supported printer just eliminates several mouse clicks. One
printer I installed is a Samsung ML-2955. It is listed as supported, but
when you go to the Samsung site, there isn't anywhere to install it. So I
went the route of choosing an unsupported printer and it installed fine,
and works fine. If I am at home, connected to my home network, as long as
the office printers are powered up, I can print to my office printer on a
completely different network. That is kind of neat if the need to do it
arises.


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 2014-04-18 18:28 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com:

  Android's market share is increasing while Windows is going down. Chrome
  OS is increasing as well, but its market share is not as strong as
 Android
  [so far].  IT would be nice to get into that market share for LO, when
  possible.
 

 ​You know... ChromeOS is sort of important. ChromeOS apps are basically
 the same as Chrome apps, so I'd say their market share is more like...
 34-46% theoretically (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers)
 It isn't a fair comparison, as the software is available in some other
 forms where the Chrome browser is available, but it could be an incentive
 :)



  I do not know how well LO works with Win8, since I only used it for about
  10 minutes for trying to setup a package for someone and thought it was
  worse than Unity, and I hate Unity.
 

 ​It works more or less like in windows 7. No metro support, so you're
 back to the plain windows look (with all of the drawbacks of W8, but that's
 not the place to discuss this...).


 
  Windows - yes
  Linux - deb and rpm
  Mac - Intel only for the newer versions
 
  Android tablets - use an AOO/OOo based or other version[s] for Android
  that is available, for now.
  iOS - told it is being looked into
  ChromeOS - not in the future plans, so far.
 

 ​That's a good summary so far. Note that LO peoples are working on Android,
 although it's not at the beta status yet (
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice_on_Android).
 But I can vouch for a *viewer* that would handle correctly files. It might
 be easier to do (less UI work, no edition code maybe). It would be a great
 step toward general adoption of opendocument format. But, again, I'm
 starting to digress.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book

2014-04-17 Thread Don Myers
I recently bought an Acer C 720 Chromebook, and absolutely love it. Boot
times are great. Speed is super. I bought this one because of a really good
Intel processor instead of ARM so I would have complete compatibility with
anything I would run in Ubuntu, and also because of exceptional battery
life, advertised as 8.5 hours. I've not tried to check the time, but it
runs forever without a charge. I've played around a little with Google
Docs, spreadsheet, and prefer to stay with LO. Another reason I went with
the Acer because you can swap out the 16GB or 32GB SSD for a 56 or 128. I
put a 128 in mine. The best place to buy those is Amazon as they are using
the next generation SSD. You can also install Ubuntu and some other Linux
systems. There are two ways to do that. One is called Chrubuntu, which is
similar to a dual boot on a standard computer. The other way is to use
Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu through the Chrome OS. I
first tried Chrubuntu, and had issues installing the Document Foundation
version of LO, and also Wine. I made LO work, but could never make Wine
work. I'm now running Ubuntu on the Chromebook using Crouton. LO works fine
there. Crouton and Chrubuntu are both in their infancy, and will only get
better. I consider my Chromebook a best buy, and am thrilled with it!!!


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014-04-17 14:43 GMT+02:00 Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 webmas...@krackedpress.com:

  So I ask if there is any movement towards making a Chrome OS port.
 
  Actually this Samsung Chrome uses a microSD card for some storage.  I
  cannot tell much about it, since I do not have access to the manual.  So
  the version of LO would need to fit on a microSD card storage, like a
  tablet, but it is not a tablet. This is really a really small net-book
 like
  device running Chrome OS.
 

 ​As far as I know, making an application for ChromeOS is roughly the same
 as making an application (note the quotes) for Chrome. This mean it's
 mostly html based and javascript driven.​ Porting LO to this kind of
 platform mean two things:
 - We get an awesome, cross-system, cross-platform office suite
 - We have a insane amount of work, need to rewrite *everything* from
 scratch, redo the UI, handle the strict restriction of browser-based
 applications... I'm sure you see what I mean :)
 It *might* be possible to run some binaries part, as it is possible with
 some restriction for Chrome app/extensions, but it remain a formidable
 task.

 Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath for a port of this kind for three
 reasons: it's a huge task, there's little incentive to do it (way less than
 an android port for example), and there's a solid alternative.

 First alternative (easier): it is possible to install Ubuntu (or other
 linux OS) on a chromebook. I did that long ago, and there's a handful of
 tutorials on how to do so. If your chromebook is Intel based, it's even
 better, but as far as LO is concerned, it can be installed on ARM devices
 too.
 Second alternative (trickier): there's way less tutorials, but I vaguely
 remember the possibility of using real software in chromeos, mainly through
 command line. However I don't have any more info, and I'm not sure that it
 isn't restricted to command-line stuff (I'm not even sure that chromeos use
 an X server).

 Also, regarding storage space: for previous models, it was a really good
 idea to replace the (really) small hard drive with a better one. I don't
 know the specs of the newest chromebooks, but it's worth checking.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO for Chrome OS - i.e. Samsung Chrome Book

2014-04-17 Thread Don Myers
I'm quite pleased with Crouton. It has some quirks here and there, but once
you understand them, it really works well. Neither Crouton or Chrubuntu are
exactly like using Ubuntu on a typical desktop of notebook, but I do
consider both of them to be young projects which will only get better with
time. My wife has been thinking about tablet for several months now. After
seeing my chromebook, yesterday she asked for one for her birthday!

Don


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 2014-04-17 16:40 GMT+02:00 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com:

  The other way is to use Crouton, where you are actually running Ubuntu
  through the Chrome OS


 ​Ah, thanks for that. The name slipped my mind, and I might need this soon
 too, for roughly the same reason :)

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SOLVED Re: [libreoffice-users] No menus for LibreOffice install on Chrubuntu

2014-03-17 Thread Don Myers
For some reason the libreofficeX.X-debian-menus file isn't running 
during the install. I ran that file separately in the software center 
and everything is working perfectly now with the Document Foundation 
version of LO 4.2.2.1.



On 03/16/2014 10:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Can you get to a command-line and open LibreOffice from there?
Ctrl Alt t
should open a terminal console.  Then the command
soffice
should open LIbreOffice.  If it doesn't (or maybe even if it does)
then hopefully the command-line should show some error messages which
might give some clue about what's gone wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 17 March 2014 01:02, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I recently just bought an Acer Chromebook C-720, and used Chrubuntu to
install Ubuntu 13.10 on it. On my other Linux machines when I do a clean
install I completely purge the system of the Ubuntu LO version, and then
install The Document Foundation version. I'm presently running 4.2.2.1 on
them. Once Chrubuntu was installed on the Chromebook, I purged it of the
Ubuntu version, which was 4.1.3.x and installed Libreoffice 4.2.2.1.
However, unlike with the installs on my other machines, none of the LO apps
show up in dash at all. LO does show up in synaptic. It is like before LO
had the menus as part of the install where there were not any menus without
installing them separately. I'm sure there are not many people doing this,
but any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] No menus for LibreOffice install on Chrubuntu

2014-03-16 Thread Don Myers

Hi Tom,

In my conventional laptop, where LibreOffice works perfectly, if I enter 
soffice in the terminal, I get the following:
The program 'soffice' is currently not installed. You can install it 
by typing:

sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common
In the Chromebook I get command not found. Maybe I will need to try  
PPA version. Everything else so far seems fine.


Since I first posted, I found it doesn't want to install the repository 
version of Wine because of missing dependencies. On the positive side, 
it is blazingly fast. From boot to a fully loaded Ubuntu 13.10 in 15 
seconds!


Don

On 03/16/2014 10:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Can you get to a command-line and open LibreOffice from there?
Ctrl Alt t
should open a terminal console.  Then the command
soffice
should open LIbreOffice.  If it doesn't (or maybe even if it does)
then hopefully the command-line should show some error messages which
might give some clue about what's gone wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)





On 17 March 2014 01:02, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I recently just bought an Acer Chromebook C-720, and used Chrubuntu to
install Ubuntu 13.10 on it. On my other Linux machines when I do a clean
install I completely purge the system of the Ubuntu LO version, and then
install The Document Foundation version. I'm presently running 4.2.2.1 on
them. Once Chrubuntu was installed on the Chromebook, I purged it of the
Ubuntu version, which was 4.1.3.x and installed Libreoffice 4.2.2.1.
However, unlike with the installs on my other machines, none of the LO apps
show up in dash at all. LO does show up in synaptic. It is like before LO
had the menus as part of the install where there were not any menus without
installing them separately. I'm sure there are not many people doing this,
but any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO install and LinuxMint/MATE 16 downgrading it during a update

2014-03-09 Thread Don Myers

Hi Webmaster,

If you were doing an upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10, that will not 
work. 12.04 to 14.04 will work since both are/will be Long Term Service 
releases. Other upgrades only work if you are going from the previous 
current release, such as 13.04 to 13.10. I generally do a clean install 
anyway.


To cleanly remove LO using the terminal from your computer you can do 
the following from 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/180403/how-to-uninstall-libreoffice:

sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove

I use it to get rid of the package version and then reinstall the 
version I want from The Document Foundation. I do not use any PPA 
version, and have never had any issues.


Don


On 03/09/2014 12:04 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I would assume that when 4.1.6 come out in the end of April, the PPA 
will make sure it is updated through the Update Manager.


Now that I have the 4.1 PPA added to my system, how do I make sure 
that when I remove LO 4.1.3 from the system, Mint will not reinstall 
it again, like it did after I installed 4.1.5 manually?


That is the real issue right now.  Why did Mint reinstall 4.1.3 during 
an update session when 4.1.5 was already there.  Plus now I get both 
installs in the Office menu list.


I would like to have only one install of LO to save needed space on 
the OS and /home partition.


-

I am now running the OS on a 250 GB drive and I was running a 500 GB 
partition for it.  Upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10 erased my 
whole drive and all of the non-OS partitions as well.  Then there were 
some GRUB and boot issues with 13.10, so I switched to Mint and a 
smaller drive for the OS, with the original 2TB drive for data only. 
[IDE - one 250 GB for OS: SATA - three 2TB drives for data, one 
optical drive].



At least Mint 16 will now see the networked Canon drives and install 
them.  Mint 14 did not, would not unless they were USB printers.  
Also, it seems that Ubuntu 13.10 does not like my 6 month old PCIe16 
NVIDIA graphics card, which I bought to deal with issues 11.xx had 
with my internal MoB NVIDIA graphics.  It seems that Mint 16 does not 
have that problem.  I run the MATE version, instead of Cinnamon, since 
I was running Ubuntu with MATE. Ubuntu's MATE install has both the top 
and bottom panels while Mint/MATE only uses the bottom one.  I have to 
get use to that.


On 03/09/2014 11:34 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:

Tim,

There is a LO PPA at https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa 
which will have the latest stable release. It works with Ubuntu and 
all the derivatives I have tested.


Jay
On 03/09/2014 11:25 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I am now running Mint 16 [with MATE] instead of Ubuntu 12.04 [due to 
some major issues after upgrading to 13.10].


I removed LO 4.1.3 using Synaptic Package Manager, and installed LO 
4.1.5 using the Terminal.  Here is the problem - Mint reinstalled 
4.1.3 during an upgrade session and now I have both installed and in 
the menu system.


So how do I remove Mint's default LO and keep it removed when I 
install a newer version of LO?


I am running [as of March 8th]
Linux Mint 16 with MATE desktop environment [full install version 
including multimedia DVD].


There are some differences between Ubuntu's MATE desktop and Mint's 
MATE desktop, and it appears there are differences in how it deals 
with removal and installation of packages during the Update 
Manager's process.


ALSO
what it the PPA instructions needed to deal with the 4.1.x line to 
add it to the update process.  Maybe that would stop this issue, 
or not.












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.2.1 is already available to improve the experience of early adopters

2014-02-22 Thread Don Myers
I've not had any issues downloading LO 4.2.1.1. I tried it this morning 
from my home. I downloaded it originally at the office. I've been 
downloading from here:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download

and haven't changed the mirrors.

Don


On 02/22/2014 02:46 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

Still inaccessible.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll have to get back to you on that when I get home tonight.  Our
company firewall is having access problems through the download links:

Error: Gateway Timeout
Time: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:16:47 PST
Your Source IP: 128.222.234.115
External Host: mirrors.syringanetworks.net
Appliance: 10.13.130.30 (inprtscl02p..xxx.com)

I have redacted our company identifiers.  It could also be a problem
with the mirror's security - we're kind of tight on that.

This used to work - I routinely download the updates at work, but
yesterday this happened here and last night I could not connect from
home, either.

Thanks.

MR



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi :)
Sorry!  I missed all that.  It seems to be working now.

My web-browser tries to block such downloads but i just click on the
Allow button in the grey 'tool'-bar that appears at such times and
then the pop-up appears asking if i want to save or open it.  So, it's
working now afaik.

I'm not certain but hasn't the downloadsdonations page been
re-organised?  It seems really clear now that donations are optional.
All the download bit is in the top section of the page and then a
clear line dividing the page into 2.  The lower part deals with
optional donations.  I'm sure it wasn't as clear as this before but
maybe it was?

Regards from
Tom :)


On 21 February 2014 08:19, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

Still no download.  I get a connection, but nothing seems to be available.

Is the download page working?

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:34 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

The site may be overloaded at the moment - I can't get the help download.

sigh


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi :)
Hopefully everyone here gets these announcements but since we have
been unusually stressy about it over the last couple of days i
thought i would forward the official announcement so we all know where
we stand.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 20 February 2014 12:01, Italo Vignoli it...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

Berlin, February 20, 2014 - The Document Foundation announces
LibreOffice 4.2.1, three weeks after the availability of LibreOffice
4.2. The first minor release - based on a shorter cycle than expected -
solves over 100 problems, introduced by the larger than usual code
refactoring of the LibreOffice 4.2 family. Changelog is available here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.1/RC1.

LibreOffice 4.2 was extremely ambitious, in terms of code refactoring.
Because of this, we planned an extensive quality assurance cycle, based
on automated tests followed by QA sprints in December and January, but
we were not able to catch all the issues, says Thorsten Behrens,
Chairman of The Document Foundation. Based on early adopters feedback,
developers and QA experts have jumped in immediately, and have solved
the most urgent problems in less than three weeks, showing the
importance of our large community.

LibreOffice 4.2.1 and LibreOffice 4.1.5 will be on stage at CeBIT in
Hannover from March 10 to March 14 (Hall 6, Booth H14). In addition,
Florian Effenberger and Italo Vignoli will speak about LibreOffice at
the Open Source Conference.

Download LibreOffice

LibreOffice 4.2.1 is immediately available for download from the
following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/.

LibreOffice users, free software advocates and community members can
support The Document Foundation with a donation at
http://donate.libreoffice.org. Money collected will be used to grow the
infrastructure, and support marketing activities to increase the
awareness of the project, both at global and local level.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.2.1 is already available to improve the experience of early adopters

2014-02-22 Thread Don Myers

This is the site I'm downloading from:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
No issues there for me.


On 02/22/2014 09:14 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

Something happened from the command line - maybe this will help?

$ wget 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.2.1/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.1_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz
.
--2014-02-22 17:57:47--
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.2.1/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.1_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz
Resolving download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)... 5.9.148.85, 2a01:4f8:190:3144::2
Connecting to download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)|5.9.148.85|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed
out) in headers.
Retrying.

--2014-02-22 18:12:48--  (try: 2)
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.2.1/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.1_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz
Connecting to download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)|5.9.148.85|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...

After five minutes it timed out and is trying again.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 6:07 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

I've tried Chrome, Seamonkey and Firefox.  In Chrome, after about two
minutes of waiting for the download to start, I get a web page saying
that the site is unavailable.

In Seamonkey and Firefox, it says Waiting for
download.documentfoundation.org... and nothing ever comes through.

I always do the help download first - it's smaller and gives me a
faster success - when it works.  Again, this is for the English Deb
x86_64 version.

I tried this:

$  wget 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.2.1/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.1_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz
.
Resolving download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)... 5.9.148.85, 2a01:4f8:190:3144::2
Connecting to download.documentfoundation.org
(download.documentfoundation.org)|5.9.148.85|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...

And that's as far as it gets.

I can ping the site, but no download luck.

This has always worked before from Chrome directly through the link.

(I accidentally clicked early and also could not get the rpm version -
same problem.)

I also tried to download the current 4.2.0 version - same problem.

Also tried this:

$ scp 
download.documentfoundation.org:/libreoffice/stable/4.2.1/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.2.1_Linux_x86-64_deb_helppack_en-US.tar.gz
.
The authenticity of host 'download.documentfoundation.org
(5.9.148.85)' can't be established.
ECDSA key fingerprint is b7:a8:2f:7c:2c:97:09:45:32:5c:86:c6:29:35:cc:d8.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added
'download.documentfoundation.org,5.9.148.85' (ECDSA) to the list of
known hosts.
Permission denied (publickey).

At least I get something back here, but no download

Last ditch:  I tried clicking on the main download link, and I get the
donation page just fine, but still no download.

Any suggestion not tried above would be most welcome



On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

That is the version I just checked which was working fine for me.


On 02/22/2014 02:46 AM, MR ZenWiz wrote:

I should clarify - this is the Deb x86_64 download that is not working.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:46 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

Still inaccessible.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:20 AM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll have to get back to you on that when I get home tonight.  Our
company firewall is having access problems through the download links:

Error: Gateway Timeout
Time: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:16:47 PST
Your Source IP: 128.222.234.115
External Host: mirrors.syringanetworks.net
Appliance: 10.13.130.30 (inprtscl02p..xxx.com)

I have redacted our company identifiers.  It could also be a problem
with the mirror's security - we're kind of tight on that.

This used to work - I routinely download the updates at work, but
yesterday this happened here and last night I could not connect from
home, either.

Thanks.

MR



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi :)
Sorry!  I missed all that.  It seems to be working now.

My web-browser tries to block such downloads but i just click on the
Allow button in the grey 'tool'-bar that appears at such times and
then the pop-up appears asking if i want to save or open it.  So, it's
working now afaik.

I'm not certain but hasn't the downloadsdonations page been
re-organised?  It seems really clear now that donations are optional.
All the download bit is in the top section of the page and then a
clear line dividing the page into 2.  The lower part deals with
optional donations.  I'm sure it wasn't as clear as this before but
maybe it was?

Regards from
Tom :)


On 21 February 2014 08:19, MR ZenWiz mrzen

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Limited Unicode Support in LibreOffice 4.1.4.2? Character insertion, non-zero (SMP, SIP) planes, and multi language documents.

2014-01-29 Thread Don Myers

Hi Neil,

At work, my e-mail is automatically downloaded to Thunderbird and comes 
off the server. At home it is automatically downloaded but stays on the 
server. So I checked the characters here at home tonight in both Firefox 
and Chrome. Here is what I have: (I've enlarged them for clarity.)

Firefox:

Characters Firefox

Chrome Browser
Characters Chrome Browser

I have a standard US version of Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity. Firefox and 
Thunderbird come with it, and are always updated to the current 
versions. Chrome is always the current release, and it is kept updated. 
I download it from Google. I always delete completely the LibreOffice 
version from Ubuntu, and install the version (presently 4.1.4.2) from 
The Document Foundation. Hopefully the images I put in this e-mail will 
show up in your e-mail. I've not added any extra fonts or anything to 
the system or LibreOffice.


Don

On 01/29/2014 10:18 PM, ♪͡♪♪͡♪Neil Ren♪͡♪♪͡♪ wrote:

Tractor wrote

in Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity, in Thunderbird e-mail the 4 characters are
present. If I paste the same in LO Write from the Document Foundation
4.1.4.2 they also show up a 4 characters.

Your browser probably has full support for CJK characters in the basic
multilingual plane. I'm curious what font LO uses to display these 4 chars,
as I am gradually shifting to Linux platform as a beginner.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Merging PDFs

2014-01-28 Thread Don Myers

Hi Charles,

I'm not aware of any way to merge multiple pdf files using LO. There are 
others on the list more knowledgeable than I, so maybe it can be done. 
There is a free, open source program that I've used to merge multiple 
PDF files into one file called PDFsam. It is available for Linux, 
Windows, and Mac. In Ubuntu there is an older version in the software 
center. That is what I've used. It has always worked well.


Don



On 01/28/2014 08:41 PM, charles meyer wrote:

I've got 3 or so separate PDF files.

I'd like to merge them all into one PDF file in Writer in Office 3.6.2.2

Each page of each PDF file has a lot of empty space around the graphic image.

Ex. 2 inches above and below the graphic on each page and a good 3
inches on each side of each graphic is white, empty space.

Is there a way to eliminate all the empty space around each graphic in
in each page in each PDF or once all the PDFs are merged into one
larger PDF?

Thanks so much,

Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Label creation Q

2013-12-18 Thread Don Myers

Yes, if you are using the table style templates.
Don


On 12/17/2013 08:33 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Errr, Copypaste?
Regards from
Tom :)





On 17 December 2013 19:35, John R. Sowden jsow...@americansentry.net wrote:

With the recent messages re: the label function, I created a shipping label.
Worked very nicely.  Is there a feature to populate the rest of the labels
on a sheet (on the screen), from the top left one, so they are all the same?

John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-18 Thread Don Myers

Hi Brian,

That is a much better solution. Thanks for suggesting it.

Don

On 12/18/2013 10:00 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 18:09 18/12/2013 -0500, Don C. Myers wrote:
When you use the table style templates, the wizard does not work. It 
is designed for the frame style. What I do is fill in one label. Then 
if you have a 30 label sheet with 3 columns and 10 rows, I copy and 
paste it to the nest two labels to the right. Then I copy all three 
of those labels on row 1, and paste into the complete second row. 
Then I copy rows 1 and two and paste into rows 3  4, 5  6, 7  8, 
and 9  10. It really goes pretty fast that way.


Copy one cell.  Select all cells.  Paste once into all.  (That's 
Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+A, Ctrl+V.)  Isn't that even faster than pretty 
fast - and equally fast no matter how many labels you have?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Wordstar

2013-11-05 Thread Don Myers


On 11/05/2013 06:55 PM, Paul wrote:

On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:34:38 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:


Simple. The evil machinations of Microsoft.

I will repeat. If any and all Windows application could use Ctrl+J
for anything, why WordStad suddenly couldn't?

Ok, let me spell it out for you. Microsoft, as the developers of the
OS, put code in their OS to capture the Ctrl+J key combination, and not
pass it on to the foreground application. However, they also put in
code to allow an application to request that the key combination be
passed on, code that most people, including the developers of WordStar,
didn't know about (at least until after it was too late). Then
Microsoft, as developers of Word, put in the necessary request to make
the OS pass on the Ctrl+J key combination to Word. They knew to do
this, because they were the same company.

Or, alternatively, Microsoft, as the developers of the OS, put code in
to detect a running copy of WordStar, and hide the Ctrl+J key
combination from it. They did this because they were also the
developers of Word, and wanted it to have a monopoly.

I'm not saying they did any of this, I have no personal experience with
the Ctrl+J key combination, nor have I any insights into exactly how
they did this if it actually is true. I just know that they have done
evil and rude things to get or maintain a monopoly in the past, more
than once, including something very, very similar, and I wouldn't put
it past them to have done this too. I'm merely suggesting ways in which
they could have done it. I'm sure there are more.

Some  of the things Microsoft has done are chronicled here in a report 
to the European Commission a number of years ago:

http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf

Don



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: boot-loaders, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

2013-10-06 Thread Don Myers
I started with Ubuntu with version 8.10, and have had each version since 
then. I generally find it easiest to do a clean install. One advantage 
of that is every 6 months I have a complete backup of my hard drive. The 
second advantage is it is very easy to do. Each program has its own 
hidden file under the home directory, such as .thunderbird, .mozilla, 
.filezilla, gimp-2.8, etc. Once the new install is completed, and you 
have the programs installed that you wish from the repository or the 
ppa, open each one one time to create the .whatever hidden file. Then 
simply delete that file and replace it with the backed up file, and you 
have all of your settings, e-mail, bookmarks, server settings for 
filezille, and everything exactly the way was. Very easy and very fast. 
Much, much, much faster than doing a clean install of Windows.


Don


On 10/06/2013 11:36 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/06/2013 11:06 AM, James Knott wrote:

Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

It was really nice of Windows to stop allowing me to boot into Ubuntu
after I upgraded from Vista to Win7.  I had to use a boot fixer disc
to give me back my Ubuntu.  At least that laptop is the one I use only
once in a while, since I have a small drive in it, compared to my other one.

I have never had a problem with not being able to access Linux when
Windows is on the system.  Windows installs will always break the boot
loader, so you have to be prepared to deal with that.  However,
reinstalling Windows from the DVDs has never trashed Linux, though I
have heard some recovery discs will.  So, as a rule, unless I have no
alternative, I install Windows first and then Linux.  With my ThinkPad
E520, the first thing I did was to build the recovery DVDs and then used
the Windows tools to shrink the partition, to make room for the Linux
install.  I have not had to reinstall Windows 7 since then.  On my old
ThinkPad, I did reinstall from DVD, but it did not touch the Linux
partitions, only the boot loader.



It was the upgrading [overwriting with new install] from Vista 32-bit to
Win7 Pro 64-bit that messed with GRUB.

I had my Ubuntu installed like I like it and did not want to wipe the
entire drive for the Vista to Win7 upgrading.  It takes a lot of work
to install Ubuntu 12.04, plus MATE d.e., and all of the packages I want
and setting up all of the printers and such just like it was before.
Then there are the endless amounts of updates that Ubuntu would do.  So
I really do not like to wipe the drive just to install the newer version
of Windows.

At least it was not setting up my main desktop.  When I replaced a bad
primary drive [/sda], it took over 15 hours to install, tweak, etc. all
of the packages, plus all of the files back from backups and STILL I am
finding that I missed a tweak or package.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Error in Calc custom formats between closing and opening a file

2013-09-12 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I'm running LO 4.1.1.2 (Document Foundation Version) in Ubuntu 13.04. 
After reading about this issue, I tried some spreadsheets going back a 
number of years, mostly .ods, and one .sxc, and all of the formulas 
saved in them are working perfectly. This is in the US. I also tried 
some new formulas using existing data in the spreadsheet, and they work 
fine also.


Don



On 09/12/2013 08:54 PM, Paul wrote:

Hi Regina, All,

I've finally (finally!) updated LO, and checked this problem again, and
it still manifests. I can confirm that it manifests with the following
LO versions:

4.0.3.3
4.0.5.2
4.1.1.2

This is with a locale of South Africa, but I think that just makes the
problem worse by confusing some of the characters in the string hour
with locale specific currency symbols; the underlying problem has to do
with not preserving the space before the quoted string literal in the
format string over saves, which is not a locale specific problem, as far
as I can see.

Can anybody confirm this and give their LO version and locale?

Should I file a bug report, and if so how do I go about doing that?
When I first looked at filing a bug, I found both
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ and
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/. Which is the currently
preferred bugtracker?

Thanks for the assistance so far

Paul


On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:07:20 +0200
Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:


Hi All,

Haven't had a chance to test in LO 4.1 beta, but I was hoping someone
could at least confirm that they are getting the same results in 4.0
or prior, and maybe even someone with 4.1 could comment on if it is
still happening.

Anybody?

Regina, you said you weren't getting the weird formatting in your
version, but can you confirm the behaviour as regards the moving of
the space in your version?

Many thanks

Paul



On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 02:11:26 +0200
Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote:


Hi Regina,

Terribly sorry about the delay in following up on your suggestions.
I didn't mean to just disappear like that. It's been a bit hectic
here, and I haven't had time to try with LibreOffice 4.1 beta yet,
but I've tried a couple of other things.

Firstly, I tried formatting the cell as a plain number, with
'  / hour' after the default format, so the complete format is
#,###.00  / hour

This got changed over the save to
#,###.00  / hour

Again, the space was removed in front of the quotes, and added
behind. Other than that, the hour wasn't mangled, I'm assuming
that the mangling is only because of interpreting it as currency
symbols.

When I removed the extra space behind the quotes, but left it
without a space in front, it preserved that over saves, i.e. the
following worked fine over saves
#,###.00 / hour

This is still rejected when I change to currency format.

Next, I looked at my locale settings. Under Tools|Options|Language
Settings|Languages I have the following:
Language of
 User interface: Default - English (USA)
 Locale setting: Default - English (South Africa)
 Decimal separator key: checked : Same as locale setting (.)
 Default currency: Default - ZAR
 Date acceptance patterns: Y/M/D;M/D
Default languages for documents
 Western: English (South Africa)
 Asian: greyed out : Default - Chinese (simplified)
 CTL: greyed out : Default - Hindi
 For the current document only: not checked
Enhanced language support
 Show UI elements for East Asian writings: not checked
 Show UI elements for Bi-Directional writing: not checked
 Ignore system input language: not checked

I tried changing the default locale setting to English (USA),
which also changed the currency and date settings. When I added '
 / hour' it again moved the space from in front of the quotes to
inside the quotes over saves. But now this doesn't mangle anything,
I'm guessing because it's using a dollar sign instead of an R as
the currency symbol. Changing the symbol to R by changing the
format code from [$$-409] to [$R-409] works if the locale is
English (USA). When the locale is Default - English (South
Africa), changing the currency symbol by changing [$R-1C09] to
[$$-1C09] doesn't help matters.

I also noticed that with a space either in front of the quotes or
moved inside the quotes to give a double space before the slash, two
spaces are shown before the slash in the actual cell. So the only
way to get only one space between the number and the slash in the
cell is to have only one space, either in front of the qoutes or
inside the quotes, but not both.

It feels like there are two bugs, the first is that over saves LO
doesn't preserve the space before the quotes, and moves it inside
the quotes, irrespective of locale, and the second is that when
there is no space before the quotes, the letters inside the quotes
get interpreted as control codes instead of as literal text, and
this interpretation depends on locale.

There was also some strange behavior when entering just a plain
number format, not currency. If 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Start Up Question

2013-09-04 Thread Don Myers

Hi Jay,

I run Libre Office in Ubuntu also. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity. 
I use the LO from the Document Foundation and not the PPA. The three 
applications I use most are Writer, Calc, and Base. I always place each 
of them in the Launcher. Many times I will have all three open at the 
same time. If I close Writer, Calc and Base stay open. I've never had 
any issue with closing a document in one closing any of the others which 
are open. A few days ago I went from LO 4.0.5.2 to LO 4.1.1.2. The 
4.1.1.2 has some bugs in with respect to using it with Unity. It works, 
but not really as it should.


Don

On 09/04/2013 10:08 PM, Jay Ridgley wrote:

Folks,

I seem to have gotten one of my settings messed up, and do not know 
how I did it.


I want each instance of a spread sheet, document, presentation to be 
separate not connected. If I quit a spread sheet I want just that one 
to go away, NOT all of them.


I have more then one set of files I am working with in separate 
directories. I do not want them connected, in any way.


It used to work that way under open office, however, libre office they 
are connected; somehow..


Current version in use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with LO from a PPA at version 
4.0.4.2.


How do I fix the problem?

Cheers,
Jay


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base: In basic, how do you open a form to a particular record number?

2013-08-07 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

When I have a database open in form view, there is a block where I can 
select a specific record number in the bottom left of the screen


Don


On 08/07/2013 05:30 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 06/08/13 15:23, Jason White a écrit :

Hi Jason,



This is some example code I'm using that opens a form. How do set set
the current record number of the newly opened form from the basic
script.

Sub OpenDataEntry(oEvent As Object)
 Dim FrmName as string
 FrmName = Finalization - Data Entry
 ThisDatabaseDocument.FormDocuments.getByName(FrmName).open()
End Sub

I'm a programmer. Does anyone know where a useable API reference is
for libreoffice basic? I have looked at the documentation and there


Try here :
http://api.libreoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/module-ix.html

http://api.libreoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/sdbcx/ResultSet.html

http://api.libreoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/sdbcx/XRowLocate.html

You might need to get/set the cursor or a bookmark for the
resultset/rowset.


Alex







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing LibO4.0.4 on GNU/Linux Mint

2013-06-23 Thread Don Myers

Hi Everyone,

Libre Office 4.0.4.2 installed perfectly fine on Ubuntu 13.04 with 
Unity. The desktop integration is included as always.


Several years ago I was going to try a beta of a new version of Libre 
Office. Betas like 4.1 do not have the desktop integration included. I 
think it has to do with having two different version on at the same 
time. I did find instructions on how to make it work, but didn't have 
time to fiddle. The final release of 4.1 will have the desktop 
integration included.


Don


On 06/23/2013 07:10 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


Which desktop are you using?
Linux Mint - MATE desktop version
or the
Linux Mint - Cinnamon desktop version?

I run Ubuntu with MATE.  So if the Debian install has issues with the 
desktop integration, Unity or MATE, then this is a big problem for me.



On 06/23/2013 06:07 AM, sun shine wrote:

Steve

Does the Mac installation candidate have a desktop-integration 
directory within the main installation directory?


For Debian/ Ubuntu type GNU/Linux systems it does, hence both 
Heinrich and me could not install 4.1 unfortunately. There also 
doesn't seem to be any mention of this on the bug-tracker page.


In any event - back to my original two questions ...


On 23/06/13 10:35, Steve Edmonds wrote:

4.1 is working nicely on my mac.
Steve

On 2013-06-23 21:09, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hi also from me,
Same experience here! 4.1-rc1 has no desktop integration. Should 
not have
been made available yet, since one cannot start it at all (at least 
not

under Linux-Mint-15!).
Regards
H. S.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 10:47:33 +0200, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi list

After installing LibO4.0.4 on GNU/Linux Mint 14 two interesting 
points

that I have noticed:

(1) the update icon still remains in the top right corner of the LibO
window, presumably because
(2) the About window displays the installation as Version 4.0.3.3

Yet, the version I downloaded and installed was
LibreOffice_4.0.4.2_Linux_x86_deb

It seems a minor issue really, so I'm just curious about this.

I tried installing LibO4.1 and that turned out to be really bad - no
desktop integration and I had difficulty opening up any of the
components, so that had to get removed PDQ, so hence back to 4.0.4
(which seems to think it is 4.0.3).

Cheers
















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Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did not

2013-05-09 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I installed LO 4.0.3.3 on two machines running Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity 
today. I always download LO from the LO site, extract it to the desktop, 
and then run the following commands in the terminal:

1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.3.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.3.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb


Everything was fine with both.

I've used this method since Ubuntu 9.04 in the days of OpenOffice, and 
I've never had a problem with anything missing or failing.


Don


On 05/09/2013 06:00 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 05/09/2013 05:16 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 05/09/2013 03:40 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems

The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I has 
setup.

The Windows install did not do this.

Any idea way the 64-bit DEB install in Ubuntu 12.04 would remove my 
added items, but Windows did not?


I do not know if it is a bug, or not.  If other have seen this, than 
it might be.
 It is a little difficult to say since you did not say what 
version of LibreOffice you had installed on the two systems. That is 
likely to be important. Also from where did you download LibreOffice 
4.0.3?
 I have installed 4.0.3.3 (Debian 64 Bit) that I downloaded from 
the LibreOffice website. I did not notice any problems. But this 
might have been because I already had 4.0.3.2 installed.


--Dan



Version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID: 0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539)

I downloaded it today from the LO site, after it was announced.  I try 
not to download RCversions.


I had a different problem with the 13.04 Ubuntu I have on my laptop, 
which is an issue with 13.04 [I think since it effects more than LO].  
I run Ubuntu with MATE desktop environment.


But on my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop, I had the problem withthe loss of the 
extensions and persona. On 13.04 I did not have that issue, but an 
install problem until I removed all of the LO files with the Package 
Manager.  But it kept the extensions and persona.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3 64-bit DEB removed my extensions, but Windows version did notI

2013-05-09 Thread Don Myers
I installed LO 4.0.3.3 tonight on a third computer, also with Ubuntu 
13.04 and with Unity. No problems there either.



On 05/09/2013 08:19 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I extract them to the /home folder
then rename it to Lib
then I
cd Lib
cd DEBS
then
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

I tend to not run an command on a folder that I am not in.
I learned that in my mainframe days as a safety feature.

So far, I have installed it on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 with MATE 
desktop.  I HATE Unity and GNOME 3.x.
Been using Ubuntu since 9.04 or 9.10 for a few months till 10.04 LTS 
came out.  I skipped 11.xx and when to 12.04 and 13.04.


13.04 gave me errors when I tried the desktop-integration install.  
Kept giving me errors stating it was not matching the core install.


The only fix I came up with, for it on 13.04 was to remove the current 
version of LO then install the new one over again.


On 05/09/2013 06:55 PM, Don Myers wrote:

Hi,

I installed LO 4.0.3.3 on two machines running Ubuntu 13.04 with 
Unity today. I always download LO from the LO site, extract it to the 
desktop, and then run the following commands in the terminal:

1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
2. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.3.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.3.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb


Everything was fine with both.

I've used this method since Ubuntu 9.04 in the days of OpenOffice, 
and I've never had a problem with anything missing or failing.


Don


On 05/09/2013 06:00 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 05/09/2013 05:16 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 05/09/2013 03:40 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I just installed 4.0.3 on two systems

The 64-bit DEB install removed my extensions and the persona I has 
setup.

The Windows install did not do this.

Any idea way the 64-bit DEB install in Ubuntu 12.04 would remove 
my added items, but Windows did not?


I do not know if it is a bug, or not.  If other have seen this, 
than it might be.
 It is a little difficult to say since you did not say what 
version of LibreOffice you had installed on the two systems. That 
is likely to be important. Also from where did you download 
LibreOffice 4.0.3?
 I have installed 4.0.3.3 (Debian 64 Bit) that I downloaded 
from the LibreOffice website. I did not notice any problems. But 
this might have been because I already had 4.0.3.2 installed.


--Dan



Version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID: 0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539)

I downloaded it today from the LO site, after it was announced. I 
try not to download RCversions.


I had a different problem with the 13.04 Ubuntu I have on my laptop, 
which is an issue with 13.04 [I think since it effects more than 
LO].  I run Ubuntu with MATE desktop environment.


But on my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop, I had the problem withthe loss of 
the extensions and persona. On 13.04 I did not have that issue, but 
an install problem until I removed all of the LO files with the 
Package Manager.  But it kept the extensions and persona.











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Re: [libreoffice-users] Currency conversion/display in calc

2013-03-09 Thread Don Myers

Hi Steve,

I only have 4.0.1.2 installed, but my guess is that with the comma in 
there, or possibly the dollar sign, or maybe both, when you are pasting 
it, calc thinks it is text and not a number. That causes the left 
alignment and not being dividable since text can't be divided.


Don

On 03/09/2013 01:00 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
If I type or paste $2,441.99 into a cell in calc (3.6) it is left 
aligned. If I right click format cell it states number-general.

If I divide it by 2 I get #value!

How do I get LO to recognise this as a number. I found a long winded 
way, format it as currency and remove the ' that LO puts in front.

Steve



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb

2013-02-10 Thread Don Myers

Tom,

I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on 
three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No 
issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base 
run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!!


*Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:*
Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the 
folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb

Run the following terminal commands to install it:
1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb
4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different 
components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to 
where you wish to have them in the launcher bar.


If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation 
version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following:
The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install 
it by typing:

sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common
An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it 
originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If 
it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the 
LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! 
I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did.


Don


On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


Tom
I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it.


On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried
installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice
from the command-line by typing in

libreoffice

I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i 
was missing a package called something like



libreoffice-common

when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop 
integration

folders i found there was one!  I'm sure it's been there in previous
releases?!  However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything
then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it.


So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that 
odd
way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried 
unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never).


Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb

2013-02-10 Thread Don Myers

Hi Tom,

This method should uninstall all LibreOffice versions at one time. I've 
seen one person recommend using a purge command also to make sure all 
LibreOffice elements are removed. This method really works very well. 
Just paste three commands in a terminal and you have a complete new 
version. The install process this way is fast. I think significantly 
faster than if you were installing an upgrade in Windows. The only 
downside to this method is if you wanted multiple versions installed at 
one time.


Don

On 02/10/2013 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall 
the one you do want.  There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though!
Regards from
Tom :)







From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com
To: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
Cc: LibreOffice, users users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 18:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb

2013/2/9 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com


On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:


On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried
installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice
from the command-line by typing in

libreoffice

I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i
was missing a package called something like


libreoffice-common

when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration
folders i found there was one!  I'm sure it's been there in previous
releases?!  However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything
then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it.


So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd
way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless
i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never).

Regards from
Tom :)


Tom

I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common
run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common.

This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the
features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK

LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked.

What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question.

Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux:

/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**soffice.  (Note, you could use sbase,
scalc, etc. instead of soffice.)
   When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts
LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw,
simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with
it.
   What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the
icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as
LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new
menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do
with this though.)
file:///home/dan/Screenshot%**20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:**50.png

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I have the legacy Version 3.6.0.1 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:101)) om my main
box, running 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 with the Cinnamon environment and, not
surprisingly, entering »soffice« from the command line lauches that version
of LO. I installed version 4.0.0.3 a couple of days ago, and if I instead
perform »/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice« it is that version which will
launch. What I should like to do is to entirely replace the former with the
latter (with which, so far, I am very happy), so that when I run »soffice«
in  a terminal or click my LO icons in Cinnamon, it is LibreOffice 4.0.0.3
which launches instead of 3.6.0.1. Any suggestions - with all the gory
details - as to how to best go about this ?...

Henri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb

2013-02-10 Thread Don Myers

Hi Henri,

I'm glad you have everything working well, and in the manner which you 
like!


Don

On 02/10/2013 02:40 PM, M Henri Day wrote:

2013/2/10 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com


Hi Tom,

This method should uninstall all LibreOffice versions at one time. I've
seen one person recommend using a purge command also to make sure all
LibreOffice elements are removed. This method really works very well. Just
paste three commands in a terminal and you have a complete new version. The
install process this way is fast. I think significantly faster than if you
were installing an upgrade in Windows. The only downside to this method is
if you wanted multiple versions installed at one time.

Don


On 02/10/2013 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just
reinstall the one you do want.  There has to be a lot of better ways to do
this though!
Regards from
Tom :)


...

After posting above, I remembered that I'd actually done this sort of thing
before, but with a twist, i e, creating icons for and links to the new
version while retaining the earlier one. In the Cinnamon menu I clicked on
Main Menu and then «Add new object» and filled in the necessary information
and commands, i e, /opt/libre4.0/program/swriter for Writer. The customary
LibreOffice icons were found under, e g,
/user/share/icons/gnome/48x48/apps. I now can access LibreOffice 4.0
functions with a simple click on my Cinnamon top panel, just the way I like
it. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions !...

Henri



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-16 Thread Don Myers
There will not be any missing labels as long as your template has as 
many pages as you will be printing.  If you are printing 3 pages of 
labels, your template needs three pages with the fields in when you pull 
the data from the database.


Don

On 12/16/2012 07:52 AM, ptoye wrote:

Thanks again NoOp. But I think we're at cross-purposes here. I don't need the
paper labels - they're easily and cheaply available here in England.

What I need is a way of getting LO and/or OO to print the labels correctly
on the page. I admit that having to use a PDF printer (CutePDF or Bullzip)
complicates the issue. But it seems odd to me that I get different results
between LO and OO, and between virtual printers.

I'm getting the feeling that the only way is to put OO and/or LO up on my
ancient machine and print directly. But then will I run into the missing
label problem? Wait and see?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-15 Thread Don Myers

Hi ptoye,

I would suggest that you contact World Label (e-mail or call) and see if 
they can help you out. If they don't have A-4, maybe there is a similar 
size which will do the job for you. Here in the US we have American 
bolts and on imported products we have metric bolts. Many of the metric 
sizes are interchangeable with the American sizes as far as wrenches 
fitting and hole size. (Thread pitch is not the same, so nuts for the 
bolts are not interchangeable.)


I found the solution to the missing labels on line. Since all that was 
involved was to have a sheet with fields in for each page of labels (so 
if I needed three pages of labels printed I had a three page template)  
that was no big deal, so no, I did not report it. Every program has 
certain ways you have to do certain things. Once a few minutes are spent 
setting things up, they work for years perfectly after that. I've been 
using Base and Writer for about 7 years to do my Christmas labels, and 
am most pleased with the results. If I was starting from scratch today 
with LibreOffice, maybe the issues I had back then with OO would not 
exist today with LO. What I have works, and works well. I simply posted 
what I did just in case somebody had any issues.  Yes, there were a few 
needless steps back when I did this years ago, but were they a big deal? 
No, I didn't think so. They were simple issues to resolve.


Don

On 12/15/2012 07:13 AM, ptoye wrote:

Thanks No-op and Don for the advice.

I wasn't 100% plain in stating the problem. All too easy when you know what
you're talking about!

Firstly, being English I need A4-size rather than 8 by 11 inch page size,
and as far as I can see World Label only do US sizes (so why do they call
themselves Word Label, then, or are the international sizes well buried on
their web site?).

Secondly, I should have mentioned that I am trying to produce labels from a
database rather than a set of identical labels. Not that this should matter
for formatting. Don's instructions give me the impression that it's more
work than should be necessary, and that LO's (and probably OO's) label
mechanism is irretrievably broken. Sad. Don - did you report the missing
records as a bug to LO's bugzilla? Probably worth while - if they don't know
it's broke they can't fix it! I'll keep a record of it for next year, but
may continue with Lotus on my ancient machine (if it's still working) or
even (boo, hiss) resort to MS Word whose label mechanism seems to work
properly.


My experience with World Label is also excellent. They are big
supporters of open source software, including Linux, LO, and OO.

They furnished me with a rather unusual label size I needed. A friend
was printing labels on that size in MS word. Two thirds down the page
the bottom of one label was printing on the top of the label below it. I
used the table style template available from World Label and they
printed perfectly in LibreOffice.

Don


On 12/14/2012 08:13 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/14/2012 04:28 PM, Don Myers wrote:

Hi ptoye,

About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran
across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go
back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had
absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance
if you are using a database to fill out the forms:


... snip excellent advise

The good folks at WorldLabel now also include autofill PDF forms for
some (probably their most popular?) of their labels:

lt;http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/autofillpdf-labels.htm#addressgt;


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-14 Thread Don Myers

Hi ptoye,

About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran 
across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go 
back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had 
absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance 
if you are using a database to fill out the forms:


*LibreOffice Labels*
Go to insert/fields/other. In that window choose the Database Tab, then 
select mail merge, and drag the fields you want to your label form. Then 
in the same column as the mail merge selection choose next record and 
click insert. Copy the information from the first cell to the other 
cells in the template.
I don't know if this might help anyone or not. I had an OpenOffice form 
problem using the table template with a standard 30 label sheet (3 x 
10). I have all of our Christmas card addresses in an OpenOffice 
database. I have the form setup, etc, to automatically pull the address 
information in when I click print and select the database, etc. It works 
great with one exception. Last year my wife said I missed having a few 
addresses included. I didn't think anything about it, and honestly, 
didn't think that was possible. This year before giving her the printed 
labels I thought I would check that everyone was there. I set the 
printing so it is sorting to print A_Z based on the last name. It takes 
three sheets. I have 78 names in the database, but only had 76 printed 
labels. What happened was when the printing went from the first sheet to 
the second sheet, it misses one record. The rest of the second page is 
fine. When I went from the second sheet to the third sheet, once again, 
it skipped the next label, then printed fine for the balance. When I say 
it skipped it, the missing record just disappears. It isn't that I end 
up with a blank label at the top of the sheet. The next one in line to 
be printed on the first label on Page 2 vanishes and the one that should 
be the second one on the second page becomes the first one on the second 
page. The same with the third page. A person would never pick this up 
unless checking the database against the printed labels. To solve this 
problem, if you need three sheets of labels, you need three sheets in 
your template. Also, LibreOffice and OpenOffice (at least past versions) 
print out one blank page between each sheet of labels. If you print the 
document (without importing the information, so you just have the 
fields) as a text file, then delete out the blank sheets, and then save 
the text file back to your template, that problem is solved.


Don

On 12/14/2012 03:18 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/14/2012 11:12 AM, ptoye wrote:

Trying to produce labels, but they don't fit the paper! I'm using the
built-in L7163 address label format.

It's a bit complicated as I don't have a printer attached - I have to make a
PDF document and print it on another machine. As Export to PDF just gives
a sheet with the fields names on rather than the filled-in values, I use a
PDF printer and am getting different (and wrong) PDFs from both OO and LO.
Interestingly, the results are different between LO and OO, and also between
the printers I use, so there seems to be a problem with the printer
interface.

With OO using CutePDF I get a US letter size document (8 by 11 inches),
using Bullzip I get a document 20.8 by 28.2 cm (a bit smaller than A4). The
pitches are also wrong.

With LO I get the same from both printers: a correctly sized document. But
the pitch is wrong: 9.2 by 3.6 cm instead of 9.9 by 3.8.

How on earth can I get OO and/or LO to produce my labels? It's too late for
my Xmas cards now - I've gone back to an ancient Lotus SmartSuite which
works perfectly. But won't run on Windows 7 unfortunately.

...

I think this will help:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-a4.htm
   http://www.worldlabel.com/Templates/a4/WL-SG3899.ott
That will provide a template (table format) for your labels. You might
consider ordering from Worldlabel... they are the only vendor that I
know of that provide OOo/AOO/LO templates for their products.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.6.4.3] Avery A4 label templates missing

2012-12-14 Thread Don Myers

Hi NoOp,

I have all sizes. I have the Linux 3.6.4.3 download from the Document 
Foundation. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10.


Don


On 12/14/2012 03:45 PM, NoOp wrote:

While checking Peter's Trying to get labels to fit I found that my
version of LO (linux):
Version 3.6.4.3 (Build ID: 2ef5aff)
is missing all Avery A4 label templates  only the US Letter size
templates are available. Granted my locale is English(US), but I would
think that all label templates would be available in:
New|Labels|Brand: Avery A4|Type:

The interesting part is that I do have the templates available in:
LibreOffice 3.5.7.2
Build ID: 3215f89-f603614-ab984f2-7348103-1225a5

Can anyone else with English(US) locale check to see if they have the same?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trying to get labels to fit

2012-12-14 Thread Don Myers
My experience with World Label is also excellent. They are big 
supporters of open source software, including Linux, LO, and OO.


They furnished me with a rather unusual label size I needed. A friend 
was printing labels on that size in MS word. Two thirds down the page 
the bottom of one label was printing on the top of the label below it. I 
used the table style template available from World Label and they 
printed perfectly in LibreOffice.


Don


On 12/14/2012 08:13 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/14/2012 04:28 PM, Don Myers wrote:

Hi ptoye,

About 4 or 5 years ago when doing labels for our Christmas cards, I ran
across the table style forms mentioned by NoOp below. I will never go
back to the standard frame type forms standard in OO and LO. I've had
absolutely no alignment problems. I'll also paste here some assistance
if you are using a database to fill out the forms:


... snip excellent advise

The good folks at WorldLabel now also include autofill PDF forms for
some (probably their most popular?) of their labels:

http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/autofillpdf-labels.htm#address








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document

2012-11-30 Thread Don Myers


On 11/29/2012 10:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote:

Okay, I must be brain-dead.  I misread nabble as nobble.

Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look 
at the document with which I'm having trouble.  It can be downloaded 
from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc.


Thanks, all, for the support.
Chris


Chris

I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build 
ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly 
off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper 
places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish.


Jay
snip




Same with me in LO 3.6.3.2 and Ubuntu 12.10.

Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

2012-11-19 Thread Don Myers

Hi Virgil,

I have never purchased a copy of Windows either. I only get it when it 
comes on a computer. Microsoft charges computer companies less than what 
the public pays, but the last time I heard anything it was something 
like $50 per computer that the computer companies pay Microsoft for 
Windows. So we both do pay for it with  new computer.


Don


On 11/19/2012 07:57 PM, VA wrote:
I'm not defending Microsoft; I don't particularly like them. I'm just 
saying that if I don't want to buy MS, I don't have to, and neither 
does anyone else.


Of course, you can buy a Mac and not have Windows. However, I never 
count Windows as a purchase because it comes installed on the 
computer. I don't pay any extra for it, and I have NEVER purchased any 
Windows upgrade. After buying a Windows computer, if I wanted, I could 
completely blow off the Windows, reformat the hard drive and install 
Linux. I'm sure many people have done just that. I have a dual-boot 
Windows/Linux system on my laptop.


While my employer has purchased MS Office, I have never done so for my 
home computers.


In other words, no matter what tactics MS uses, legal or not, as the 
customer, I always control where I spend my money. MS cannot dominate 
my computer without my permission or the software market without our 
collective permission.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: James Knott
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 7:04 PM
To: LibreOffice
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in 
Freiburg ?


VA wrote:

Nobody is forced to purchase MS products.


Try and buy a computer without Windows.  While there are some available,
they're rare.  Also, read up on the MS anti trust cases to see how they
forced market share with illegal and near illegal methods, including
extortion.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] PDF Importer Problems

2012-11-15 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I think it is a bug in Ubuntu, or possibly cups, but it sounds very 
related to an issue I'm having with Ubuntu 12.10. I'm a Realtor, and we 
have paid access to the court house records to get deeds, assessment 
information, etc. To print a deed that has been selected, I can view it 
in Chrome or Firefox like I always did. The individual deed pages are 
stored as tiff images on their server. If I wanted a copy of it, I would 
just print it as a pdf. I would use cups-pdf. Cups would show it 
fetching each image, but in the final document, all of the pages are 
blank in Ubuntu 12.10. I tried it on a machine with Ubuntu 12.04, and 
everything printed fine. On 12.10 I then tried printing a hard copy with 
the regular printer instead of a pdf . Once again it showed it was 
fetching each page, but the printer printed out blank pages. So this is 
an issue with Ubuntu 12.10 in some manner. I filed a bug report with 
Ubuntu here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1066932

Nothing has happened since then. There have been no additions to my bug 
report. Maybe it would be helpful if you added your problem there.


Don


On 11/15/2012 07:01 PM, Keith Bates wrote:

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and LO 3.6.2.2

Every month or so our church has a music practice which basically 
involves me reproducing sheet music and word sheets, then adding a 
photocopying licence number to each piece of music.


Typically I might scan 16 to 20 pages in a session. I am using the 
program Simple Scan to do this.


In the past it was straight forward to scan the music to a pdf 
document then use LO pdf importer to add the required text. The last 
few times I have tried to do this the document just opens as a series 
of blank pages. I know the pdf is OK because other pdf viewers show it.


I did use pdfEdit to fill the gap but this can no longer be used in 
Ubnuntu 12.10


Does anyone know how to resolve this? I could go back to using 
stickers with the required text, but using LO to add the text prior to 
printing is much simpler when it works.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] PDF Importer Problems

2012-11-15 Thread Don Myers

Hi Keith,

I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Thank you for correcting me.

Don

On 11/15/2012 09:58 PM, Keith Bates wrote:

Don,

My problem is somewhat different, I think, as I have no problem 
viewing or printing pdfs, even the ones I have created myself. It's 
just the LO extension doesn't show the content on the screen- all 
viewers such as evince, gimp show them fine.


Keith

On 16/11/12 13:53, Don Myers wrote:

Hi,

I think it is a bug in Ubuntu, or possibly cups, but it sounds very 
related to an issue I'm having with Ubuntu 12.10. I'm a Realtor, and 
we have paid access to the court house records to get deeds, 
assessment information, etc. To print a deed that has been selected, 
I can view it in Chrome or Firefox like I always did. The individual 
deed pages are stored as tiff images on their server. If I wanted a 
copy of it, I would just print it as a pdf. I would use cups-pdf. 
Cups would show it fetching each image, but in the final document, 
all of the pages are blank in Ubuntu 12.10. I tried it on a machine 
with Ubuntu 12.04, and everything printed fine. On 12.10 I then tried 
printing a hard copy with the regular printer instead of a pdf . Once 
again it showed it was fetching each page, but the printer printed 
out blank pages. So this is an issue with Ubuntu 12.10 in some 
manner. I filed a bug report with Ubuntu here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1066932

Nothing has happened since then. There have been no additions to my 
bug report. Maybe it would be helpful if you added your problem there.


Don


On 11/15/2012 07:01 PM, Keith Bates wrote:

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and LO 3.6.2.2

Every month or so our church has a music practice which basically 
involves me reproducing sheet music and word sheets, then adding a 
photocopying licence number to each piece of music.


Typically I might scan 16 to 20 pages in a session. I am using the 
program Simple Scan to do this.


In the past it was straight forward to scan the music to a pdf 
document then use LO pdf importer to add the required text. The last 
few times I have tried to do this the document just opens as a 
series of blank pages. I know the pdf is OK because other pdf 
viewers show it.


I did use pdfEdit to fill the gap but this can no longer be used in 
Ubnuntu 12.10


Does anyone know how to resolve this? I could go back to using 
stickers with the required text, but using LO to add the text prior 
to printing is much simpler when it works.









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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Don Myers

Here is the page for ms core fonts for Ubuntu 12.04:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
Synaptic needed to be manually installed starting about 11.04.

Don


On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
the right fonts
Regards from
Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
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From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Don Myers

If you type in
mscorefonts
in the software center search block, it is available there.


On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
the right fonts
Regards from
Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

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ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice pause during startupThis has worked for me in allrecent versions of Ubuntu

2012-07-20 Thread Don Myers

Hi Robert,

This has worked for me in all recent versions of Ubuntu:

In terminal, do gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
Add line as shown below for, for instance, 127.0.0.1 galaxy localhost 
galaxy.(none) below

127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.1.1 galaxy
4) and add a line so it looks like this:
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.1.1 galaxy
127.0.0.1 galaxy localhost galaxy.(none)
5) save
6) now LibreOffice.org Writer and Calc open fast when the network 
connection is attached.


For anyone new reading this. replace galaxy with whatever you have 
named your computer.



On 07/20/2012 02:44 AM, Robert Mesibov wrote:

I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.6 OOO340m1 (Build:602) on Debian Squeeze.

The progress bar on the splash screen stops part-way during startup for about 
10 seconds. During this time LO sends a request of some sort over the network 
connection (lights flash on router) every 2 seconds, 5 times in all. LO then 
completes startup.

This happens
- with the splash screen turned off in /etc/libreoffice/sofficerc (the pause 
and network requesting still happen)
- when launching LO by itself, or when opening a Writer or other LO document 
through a file manager
- with Java RE option on or off

With an LO document already open, there is no pause when opening a second LO 
document. The pause only occurs during startup.

How to stop LO from sending requests over the network on startup, so that it 
opens without the 10-second pause?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changes oddity

2012-06-22 Thread Don Myers

Neat tips Thank you Tom Works in Ubuntu 12.04.

On 06/22/2012 04:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If you can't grab the edge of the window/console then it is probably either 
maximised or even full-screened

To full-screen or un-full-screen in *buntu and family just press F11

To unmaximise double-click any empty space on the title-bar.  The title-bar is that strange strip above the menus (above File, Edit, View ... Help).  Then grabdrag the title-bar down the screen a bit and then grab the edges and move them in a bit. 

Hmm, Xubuntu is sophisticated enough that you probably don't even have to unmaximise.  Just grab that title-bar and drag it down.  Most GnuLinux probably allow that tbh. 


Good luck and regards from
Tom :) 



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From: Sandy Harrissandyinch...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Changes oddity
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 22 June, 2012, 6:57

My work involves editing other people's writing, so I often use the
track changes features. Mostly, they work fine.

However, the window that opens for Changes-accept/reject has
gone to full screen and I cannot get it back so that I can see the
text in order to decide on what to do with changes. It covers the
whole text window.

Shutting down L-O and restarting, even with a different
document, does not change this. Nor does rebooting.
There is nor - sign on the accept/reject window to reduce
its size. Trying to grab the edge of the window with the
mouse does not work. A quick search of the online
documentation did not give a solution.

Environment is Xubuntu 12.04, updated regularly.
LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] modifying existing labels/cards

2012-05-25 Thread Don Myers

Hi Joep,

The standard label formats included with LibreOffice and OpenOffice are 
the same type as Microsoft uses with fixed blocks. These tend to not to 
be accurate if the card/label is relatively full as you get toward the 
bottom of the page, even in Microsoft. There are also table style 
templates available (or at least used to be available) as an extension 
for OpenOffice. I have found them very easy to adjust, and they print 
perfectly for both business cards and labels for me. They are available at:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm or probably as 
an extension for OpenOffice.


Don

On 05/25/2012 05:45 PM, Joep L. Blom wrote:

On 25-05-12 15:12, Jay Lozier wrote:

Joep

On 05/25/2012 06:48 AM, Joep L. Blom wrote:

AFAIK your business cards form should print correctly on any printer
that has a large enough printing area. I have found the typical tweaks I
need are to adjust the margins of the text slightly so it does not print
on the edge.

I would print a set on plain paper and visually inspect to see if the
output looks correct. Then I would make any changes and repeat the test
page. Finally, when I think I have it correct I would print 1 set out
and see if there are any small problems.


Planas,
Thanks for your reply. However, the problem is you cannot make any 
changes. You cannot change the layout, only when you make a new 
business card sheet. How would you make the changes?

Joep





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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice 3.5.3

2012-05-04 Thread Don Myers

Hi Sharon,

I wish I had some experience here to draw upon, but I don't. I've never 
had any issues with an OpenOffice or LibreOffice install failing to 
work, and I've had many of them over the years.. I see in your other 
posts that you tired checking the user profile and that isn't the issue. 
Obviously if you can run it in root, it isn't a dependency issue. I know 
Ubuntu is derived from Debian, but I've never seen an installed Debian 
system or used one. This seems like maybe it is an issue the Debian 
support folks could possibly have an answer for.


Don

On 05/03/2012 11:30 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote:

Right, I've now downloaded it with the torrent files to see if I had a
corrupt downloaded file and then installed it more or less the same as
you Don. And it still doesn’t open up and neither do I have any menu
options or icons. That gives a total of 3 downloads and installs, and
it still fails :(

Despondent
Sharon.

On 04/05/2012, Anta...@zimage.com  wrote:

Yep, now if I could get my own LO to run on this old Windows XP Pro. SP3
box!! I see Java released a new JRE version. I will try that! But I am
going to uninstall old one and see if LO even run without Java. ;)


On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 03:27:05AM +0100, Tom Davies wrote:


I guess you know of Hagar's guide
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
or at least the idea :)  Ant, you are doing great stuff here.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice 3.5.3

2012-05-03 Thread Don Myers



On 05/03/2012 08:40 PM, Ant wrote:

Try running it through Terminal's command line to see if it says
anything?

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 01:35:10AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:

I've just downloaded and installed libreoffice 3.5.3 for my distro,
and now when I go to open the base, or the writer, or anything,
nothing happens. It doesnt show anything, no splash screen and nothing
showing in 'top'. Whats gone wrong please? why doesnt it open for me?

Hi Sharon,

This is how I always upgrade LibreOffice in Ubuntu:

For the 64 Bit Version:
Download LibO_3.5.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz from The 
Document Foundation to the desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the 
folder LibO_3.5.3rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US

Run the following terminal commands to install it:
1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
2. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.3rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.3rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.5-debian-menus_3.5.3-2_all.deb
4. In Ubuntu with Unity, I then put new icons in the Launcher Bar for 
the portions I want there.


I've upgraded 4 computers from 3.5.2 to 3.5.3 so far, without any issues 
at all. I've used this method for years with both OpenOffice, and now 
LibreOffice.


Don


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing in 3.5.2.2

2012-04-29 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I've only used Libreoffice in Ubuntu. The printers available have always 
been the ones I have installed with the system, and always have all of 
the options available that any other programs have for the. The defaults 
are always the same as the way they are installed in Ubuntu. Sometimes 
the dialog boxes between different programs will be a little different. 
I've never had to configure a printer for Libreoffice, and that includes 
two inkjets, 2 black and white lasers, and one color laser. Three are 
HP, one is Samsung, and one is Konica-Minolta.


Don

On 04/29/2012 11:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think various questions in here have shown that LO uses some different system for printers and pretty much ignores whatever is set-up for the OS. 
Regards from

Tom :)

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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing in 3.5.2.2
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 29 April, 2012, 16:21

On 04/29/2012 02:10 AM, Bob Melson wrote:

Just installed 3.5.2.2 as an update in FreeBSD (8.3, AMD64 and i386) and
am unable to configure printers following the LibreOffice help page for
installing printers under unix.  As well, there is no default printer.

What printer is configured in the OS? Normally, the printer is
configured in the OS and is available to all apps.

I use Linux MInt and my printer is configured in the OS not LO.

Following the help page instructions, I have gone to
install-path/libreoffice/program and have attempted to run spadmin.
Doing so, I receive an error message (message panel) telling me that no
printers can be installed because the file system is read-only, but no
indication what filesystem it's referring to.  So, where do I look or,
better yet, what do I do to get my printers configured?

I've been told, informally, that LO has gone from supporting lpd/lp
printing to a cups-only regime.  If so, I suggest that this is a major
blunder since cups is not appropriate for many situations - small
installations with few users, desktops with attached printers, etc.
What's the truth here?

I believe CUPS is from Apple and is supported by Linux distros and
Apple. My understanding is this is more of an OS issue than an App issue

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing in 3.5.2.2

2012-04-29 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I've been running Linux (Ubuntu) for 3+ years with nothing but cups 
drivers. There have been about 8 different printers, some inkjet and 
some laser, some networked and some not networked. Cups is the only 
thing I've ever used. I've had very, very few issues. Basically almost none.


Don

On 04/29/2012 08:03 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


Well, ALL my printers, network and USB, have CUPS-based drivers.  One 
only has a CUPS-based driver and not any other type.


What is wrong with CUPS for the single user printing systems?

I use a Ubuntu desktop with 4 different printers, one being an older 
USB printer.  I have not had any problems with CUPS based drivers.


I still use 3.4.6, so I do not know about 3.5.2.2, but my question is 
why CUPS is not appropriate for desktops with attached printers.  
Never have heard this before and I have been using CUPS since Ubuntu 
9.04.


On 04/29/2012 02:10 AM, Bob Melson wrote:

Just installed 3.5.2.2 as an update in FreeBSD (8.3, AMD64 and i386) and
am unable to configure printers following the LibreOffice help page for
installing printers under unix.  As well, there is no default printer.

Following the help page instructions, I have gone to
install-path/libreoffice/program and have attempted to run spadmin.
Doing so, I receive an error message (message panel) telling me that no
printers can be installed because the file system is read-only, but no
indication what filesystem it's referring to.  So, where do I look or,
better yet, what do I do to get my printers configured?

I've been told, informally, that LO has gone from supporting lpd/lp
printing to a cups-only regime.  If so, I suggest that this is a major
blunder since cups is not appropriate for many situations - small
installations with few users, desktops with attached printers, etc.
What's the truth here?

Bob Melson






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to download?

2012-04-13 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

Question.? When I am in the download section of LibreOffice, 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/  , how do I find the options of 
where to download it from. I'm missing something somewhere.


Thank you.

don

On 04/13/2012 07:40 PM, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:10 -0400, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 18:05 -0400, Darren Govoni wrote:

That's it. But the rate from that site is like 62k per second for me.
I'm near Washington, DC. This is the speed coming from the server.

Are there mirrors I can choose from, closer to me or not throttled?
I couldn't find any download mirrors.

WOW - me too-  I'm in Maryland, the download usually takes is less the 5
minutes, now reporting 57 minutes...something isn't right.

Sent this to the website ML also - where folks might be able to help.

Ok - it is a particular mirror which is being slow:
http://ibiblio.org

Pick any of the others in the US and the download speed goes right back
to normal.

//drew


//drew


On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:45 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 13.04.2012 03:14, Darren Govoni wrote:

Hi,
I've been trying to download the latest LibreOffice. No luck.
It gets about 5%. Its slow then gets interrupted and stops. The
torrent does not work. It stays at 0%. Never seen this from a download
site before.

Is there a mirror list?

I tested my connection speed. Its fast.

thanks.



Where do you try to download from? Should be
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and nothing else. The [Info] link
leads to alternative locations (torrents and mirrors).











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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to download?

2012-04-13 Thread Don Myers
Thank you so much Drew!!! I would have never found the secret 
handshake


Don

On 04/13/2012 08:08 PM, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 20:00 -0400, Don Myers wrote:

Hi,

Question.? When I am in the download section of LibreOffice,
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/  , how do I find the options of
where to download it from. I'm missing something somewhere.

What you don't know the secret handshake ;)

On the download page, the green download button, click on the link,
lower right hand, Info.

This will give you a page with, amongst other items, direct links to the
mirrors, those in your region listed first.

//drew


Thank you.

Don

On 04/13/2012 07:40 PM, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:10 -0400, drew jensen wrote:

On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 18:05 -0400, Darren Govoni wrote:

That's it. But the rate from that site is like 62k per second for me.
I'm near Washington, DC. This is the speed coming from the server.

Are there mirrors I can choose from, closer to me or not throttled?
I couldn't find any download mirrors.

WOW - me too-  I'm in Maryland, the download usually takes is less the 5
minutes, now reporting 57 minutes...something isn't right.

Sent this to the website ML also - where folks might be able to help.

Ok - it is a particular mirror which is being slow:
http://ibiblio.org

Pick any of the others in the US and the download speed goes right back
to normal.

//drew


//drew


On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:45 +0200, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 13.04.2012 03:14, Darren Govoni wrote:

Hi,
 I've been trying to download the latest LibreOffice. No luck.
It gets about 5%. Its slow then gets interrupted and stops. The
torrent does not work. It stays at 0%. Never seen this from a download
site before.

Is there a mirror list?

I tested my connection speed. Its fast.

thanks.



Where do you try to download from? Should be
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and nothing else. The [Info] link
leads to alternative locations (torrents and mirrors).








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LOo 3.5.1.2 upgrade in Ubuntu Natty does not 'see' old templates

2012-04-13 Thread Don Myers



On 04/13/2012 08:37 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 04/11/2012 12:39 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:

Hi Fabian,

I've been using Ubuntu for 3+ years. A few years ago I had some
issues with the Ubuntu OpenOffice packages. It might not have been
their fault since I had non-repo versions installed when I did an
upgrade. To fix that problem, I did a complete uninstall of the
Ubuntu version and installed the official OpenOffice version. Ever
since then I've used only the official OpenOffice version before
LibreOffice came along, and the official LibreOffice version from
http://www.libreoffice.org/. they aren't as pretty, but
functionality has been very good. I've been running 3.5.2 on Ubuntu
11.10 and also 12.04 Beta 2 without any issues. And the recent
documents function works perfectly fine in the LibreOffice version
in Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 Beta 2. Here is how I do my install:
(This is for the 64 bit version.)

Download LibO_3.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the
desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will
give you the folder LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US
Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get
remove libreoffice*.*

It is unnecessary to remove the Ubuntu/distro version of LO. That
version *and* the standard LO version(s) reside nicely on the same
machine, and can be run simultaneously. I currenly have open
working, at the same time: LO 3.3.4, LO 3.4.6, LO 3.5.1.2, (U)LO
3.3.4, OOo 3.4.0, and OOo-Dev3:

$ locate bootstraprc
/opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
/opt/libreoffice3.4/program/bootstraprc
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/bootstraprc
/opt/ooo-dev3/program/bootstraprc
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc
/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc

The only bits you need to watch out for is where the user
configuration files are placed. In order to not have one write over
the other, I simply modify the bootsraprc file *before first run* so
that each have their own user config/profile files. Example:

For LO 3.3:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
and change
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice3.3/3

For LO 3.4:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/bootstraprc

to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice3.4/3

For LO 3.5:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice3.5/program/bootstraprc

to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/libreoffice3.5/3

Create menu items to each (example:
'/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice'), and that's it. The
Ubuntu/distro version will keep it's profile at ~/.libreoffice/3/user
(or ~/.config/libreoffice/3/user in the case of the 3.5 versions), the
others will name  put the profile as you've intsructed in the
bootstraprc file.




...


Thank you NoOp. I appreciate the information. The bad experience I had 
was about 2 years ago with OpenOffice. I had updated that to a new 
version. Several months later Ubuntu had an upgrade, and they had the 
same version of Open Office I had upgraded to. I didn't think anything 
about it. When I went to use Calc, I had some of the strangest 
behaviors. For any formula, it always gave the wrong answers, even for 
very obvious ones, such as 2+2, or 2*25. The only way I got things 
working properly again was to uninstall OpenOffice completely, then I 
reinstalled the application directly from OpenOffice.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LOo 3.5.1.2 upgrade in Ubuntu Natty does not 'see' old templates

2012-04-13 Thread Don Myers



On 04/13/2012 09:50 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 04/13/2012 06:03 PM, Don Myers wrote:


On 04/13/2012 08:37 PM, NoOp wrote:

...

The only bits you need to watch out for is where the user
configuration files are placed. In order to not have one write over
the other, I simply modify the bootsraprc file *before first run* so
that each have their own user config/profile files. Example:

For LO 3.3:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
and change
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice3.3/3

For LO 3.4:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/bootstraprc

to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice3.4/3

For LO 3.5:
$ gksu gedit /opt/libreoffice3.5/program/bootstraprc

to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/libreoffice3.5/3

Create menu items to each (example:
'/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/soffice'), and that's it. The
Ubuntu/distro version will keep it's profile at ~/.libreoffice/3/user
(or ~/.config/libreoffice/3/user in the case of the 3.5 versions), the
others will name   put the profile as you've intsructed in the
bootstraprc file.

...



Thank you NoOp. I appreciate the information. The bad experience I had
was about 2 years ago with OpenOffice. I had updated that to a new
version. Several months later Ubuntu had an upgrade, and they had the
same version of Open Office I had upgraded to. I didn't think anything
about it. When I went to use Calc, I had some of the strangest
behaviors. For any formula, it always gave the wrong answers, even for
very obvious ones, such as 2+2, or 2*25. The only way I got things
working properly again was to uninstall OpenOffice completely, then I
reinstalled the application directly from OpenOffice.

Don

Ah. That is most likely of the two sharing the same profile
(~/.openoffice.org/3/user). That is why I ensure that the standard
install profiles are different from the distro version. For OOo 3.4
(standard) my bootstraprc file is modified to:
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3.4/3
That kept it completely separate from the distro ~/.openoffice.org/3/.

Note: the advantage of keeping (U)OOo installed (at the time) was that
(U)OOo used the go-oo version, so it used gstreamer for multimedia. The
standard versions of OOo did not  so you had to install the ancient
Java Media Format (JMF)  that was a royal PITA. The advantage of
keeping all of these installed on my system is that I can easily compare
differences between versions, including putting windows of each
side-by-side.



Thank you again. I'm sure you are correct. When I did the Ubuntu upgrade 
back then I didn't know enough to know there might be a conflict or 
anything like that. It was really, really strange to see the results I 
was getting with simple formulas. None of them gave the correct answer.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LOo 3.5.1.2 upgrade in Ubuntu Natty does not 'see' old templates

2012-04-12 Thread Don Myers

Hi Eduardo,

Exactly.

32 Bit Version:
Download LibO_3.5.2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the 
folder LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US .

sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.5-debian-menus_3.5-202_all.deb


One thing I should add is that once you have the install done, if you 
are using Ubuntu with Unity, you will need to place your launcher 
buttons back into the Launcher bar. Simply click on the dash button, 
type libre into the search bar, and then drag the applications over 
which you want. Or you can open the programs, the launcher will appear 
in the launcher bar, and you can right click and select to keep it in 
the launcher.


Don

On 04/12/2012 07:12 AM, Eduardo Mundim wrote:

Hi Don

I imagine that your instructions for instalation via libreoffice.org 64
bits can be used for 32 bits only changing the name of archive. Is it
correct?

thanks

eduardo mundin

2012/4/11 Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com


Hi Fabian,

I've been using Ubuntu for 3+ years. A few years ago I had some issues
with the Ubuntu OpenOffice packages. It might not have been their fault
since I had non-repo versions installed when I did an upgrade. To fix that
problem, I did a complete uninstall of the Ubuntu version and installed the
official OpenOffice version. Ever since then I've used only the official
OpenOffice version before LibreOffice came along, and the official
LibreOffice version from http://www.libreoffice.org/. they aren't as
pretty, but functionality has been very good. I've been running 3.5.2 on
Ubuntu 11.10 and also 12.04 Beta 2 without any issues. And the recent
documents function works perfectly fine in the LibreOffice version in
Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 Beta 2. Here is how I do my install: (This is for
the 64 bit version.)

Download LibO_3.5.2_Linux_x86-64_**install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the
desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the
folder LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_x86-64_**install-deb_en-US
Run the following terminal commands to install it:
1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_**
x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/***.deb
3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.2rc2_Linux_**
x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/**desktop-integration/**
libreoffice3.5-debian-menus_3.**5-202_all.deb

If you need help for the 32 bit version, please let me know.

Don

On 04/11/2012 02:23 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:


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Le 12-04-10 02:41 AM, John D. Herron a écrit :


My new LOo 3.5.1.2 (Build ID: 350m1(Build:102) auto-upgraded under


Ubuntu Natty (via Update Manager) from the earlier 3.4.5 version.


The suite works well overall, but I do miss my old (custom) templates


which the new version's template manager does not see.


(I also miss the Recent Documents list, but that's another story). [...]


The bug was filed some time ago in Ubuntu, it's now considered opinion
:(. See:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+**bug/950794https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/950794

- From the upstream bug report:
IMHO this package [fix] will never provided. We have too few developers
to do all necessary work. Sorry for such situation. Please, move this
file (but not delete meanwhile) and configure LibreOffice from scratch
(anew).

Here is some more information about the profile directory:
http://user.services.**openoffice.org/en/forum/**viewtopic.php?t=12426http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/User:**MagicFabhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PLEASE ban this spammer! - NO

2012-04-10 Thread Don Myers



On 04/10/2012 07:49 PM, MiguelAngel wrote:

El 10/04/12 10:47, Tom Davies escribió:

Hi :)
Thanks :)  It is great to see all the support from people on the 
users list but i don't think any of the big cheeses hang out on this 
list.  They mostly seem to be on only the Marketing List.


Thanks Don, Marc, Stuart and all the off-list supporters too.
Many regards from
Tom :)


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From: Marc Groberm...@interak.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PLEASE ban this spammer! - NO
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 10 April, 2012, 7:29

This requires a top-posted Amen, lol

On 4/9/12 8:13 PM, Don Myers wrote:


On 04/09/2012 09:42 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Humm, Andreas That is UNFAIR!

Why do you consider Tom's posts on MariaDB as Spam?

There is nothing indiscriminate about his postings. He's very clear 
about

what he is posting and why. While they could be trimmed down a bit
they are
applicable as an alternative to a great number of LibreOffice users
using an
external DBMS.

If you don't find his contributions applicable to your
situation--don't read
them.  But, they're not SPAM!

Grow up!

Stuart




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Well said, Stuart!






 Not always is easy to catch the humor of Andreas, I guess a sarcastic 
critique.
 Fortunately the world is plural, and most of us can have our own 
thoughts, we don't need to be and think the same.

 I truly appreciate the contribution from both, and both are needed here.
 What the life would be without any disagreement?. We can left this no 
question and go ahead.


Miguel Ángel.


Very well written and diplomatic! Thank you Miguel!

We can left this no question and go ahead.

Yes, it is time to move ahead!

Don

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [final beta] includes LO 3.5.1.2

2012-04-09 Thread Don Myers


On 04/09/2012 10:15 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


I just installed Ubuntu's 12.04 LTS, in the final beta version, on my 
laptop that had 11.10.


I looked at what LO it installed and it stated 3.5.1.2 - 350m1 [build 
102].


I will be removing this version and use 3.4.6, but I had not seen any 
info about what Ubuntu 12.04 was going to have.


Thought someone here might want to know.


Hi,

I've been running Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 for about a week. It boots faster 
and shuts down faster than 11.10 did. I've had a few small quirks which 
are to be expected in a beta, but for a beta, I'm quite impressed. I 
normally don't bother with trying beta anything. I haven't had time to 
really work with HUD. My understanding is 12.04 will be shipping with 
LibreOffice 3.5.1. I never run the repository version of LibreOffice. I 
download The Document Foundation version, and am running 3.5.2. No 
issues yet.


Don

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: PLEASE ban this spammer! - NO

2012-04-09 Thread Don Myers


On 04/09/2012 09:42 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Humm, Andreas That is UNFAIR!

Why do you consider Tom's posts on MariaDB as Spam?

There is nothing indiscriminate about his postings. He's very clear about
what he is posting and why. While they could be trimmed down a bit they are
applicable as an alternative to a great number of LibreOffice users using an
external DBMS.

If you don't find his contributions applicable to your situation--don't read
them.  But, they're not SPAM!

Grow up!

Stuart




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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.5.1 and Recent Documents

2012-04-03 Thread Don Myers



On 04/03/2012 06:38 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

Has the release of 3.5.1 fixed the Recent Documents bug in 3.5?



I've had no problems with it running 3.5.1 on Ubuntu 11.10

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

A complete set of table base label form templates for OpenOffice (also 
work in Libre Office) are available at 
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm


Don

On 03/27/2012 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then upload them as templates to the official templates site? 
Regards from
Tom :) 



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From: Peter Hillier-Brookp...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not 
properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 10:40


On 26/03/12 22:20, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Michael, Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)


There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into
updating label definitions in the labels.xcu file,

Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the
label.xcu file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.
Really cool! It is bug 44516.

...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically generated 
frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are tabular after all and 
this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and American 
Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The only drawback is 
in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages to meet output 
requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to program this as a 
replacement for the frame based system.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade to LibreOffice 3.5.1 on Xubuntu?

2012-03-20 Thread Don Myers

Hi Edwin,

This method has worked very reliably for me over the last three years 
with both OpenOffice, and now LibreOffice. I prefer the versions 
directly from LibreOffice. When I do a system upgrade, like I will be 
doing for 12.04, I always replace the Ubuntu version with the version 
from LibreOffice. Download from:

http://www.libreoffice.org/
By default it always shows me the RPM version instead of the DEB version 
on the download page. Make sure you get the DEB version. I've never 
bothered with the help files. Once both the program and the menus are 
installed you can easily add the icons back to the launcher by clicking 
on the Dash button and typing in Libre, and then dragging the icons you 
want to the launcher bar. Below are the instructions for both the 32 bit 
and 64 bit versions:


*32 Bit Version:*
1. Download LibO_3.5.1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the 
desktop, or copy it to the desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the 
folder LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US .

2. In the terminal, run the following commands:
sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.5-debian-menus_3.5-102_all.deb



*64 Bit Version:*
1. Download LibO_3.5.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz to the 
desktop, or copy it to the desktop.
Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the 
folder LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US

2. In the terminal, run the following commands:
sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.5.1rc2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.5-debian-menus_3.5-102_all.deb


Don

On 03/20/2012 06:50 PM, Edwin Powell wrote:
So I've got this laptop running Xubuntu 11.10 and I loaded LibreOffice 
3.4.5 onto it last fall from the Ubuntu Software Center, but now I 
want to upgrade to 3.5.1 but the Ubuntu Software Center says I've got 
the newest version (3.4.5). Is there a trick to installing the 
software from the LibreOffice Web site on Xubuntu (or any flavor of 
Ubuntu, for that matter)? Thanks in advance!


Edwin


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Feature request] Allow typing when saving file

2012-03-18 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

You are most welcome. I am a farmer among other things. A 50 horsepower 
tractor will take twice as long to do the same amount of work as a 100 
horsepower tractor. A computer processor only has so many cycles in a 
given time frame. If another processor had twice as many cycles, things 
should go twice as fast in theory. It would be interesting to know how 
your file would work on a newer machine.


Don

Hi, Don:
I do belive a newer computer would minimize the saving time, but I have no
money to buy a new one.
I think allow typing while saving files would be a good feature for many
old computer users.
Such feature will save our working time when using Libreoffice on old
machines, we don't need to buy new computers for the long file saving time.

Thank you :)


2012/3/18 Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com


Hi,

I think that Tom was thinking he made a double post, not you. Do you know
anyone who has a newer computer with a faster processor and more memory
that you could run your files on to see if there is any difference between
theirs and yours? Then we would know if it is a hardware issue with the
computer, or a LibreOffice issue.

Don





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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Feature request] Allow typing when saving file

2012-03-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I think that Tom was thinking he made a double post, not you. Do you 
know anyone who has a newer computer with a faster processor and more 
memory that you could run your files on to see if there is any 
difference between theirs and yours? Then we would know if it is a 
hardware issue with the computer, or a LibreOffice issue.


Don

On 03/17/2012 08:45 PM, minhsien0330 wrote:

Hi~Tom and Daniel:
I set the cache to 256MB (Tools - Options - Memory), but the saving time
did not change, and Writer still did not accepting any keyboard input
during saving the file.
Maybe my machine is really too old?
  (CPU type : Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2300  @ 1.66GHz  with 2G DDR2-ram)

I am ready to post a feature request.
But Tom said: Ouch, sorry for the double-post!
Does Tom mean I have already posted the request?

Thank you~  :)


2012/3/18 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
Ouch, sorry for the double-post!




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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Feature request] Allow typing when saving file

2012-03-16 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I've never had any LibreOffice/OpenOffice files that large. I do a fair 
amount of work with video though, which can tax a system. Without 
knowing the processor speed and memory in your computer, based on how 
you described the file(s), I'm guessing that this may be more of a 
hardware limitation than it is a LibreOffice issue.


Don

On 03/16/2012 08:36 PM, minhsien0330 wrote:

Dear all:
I have some big *.odt files, it contains many pictures and pages.
When I press Ctrl+S to save the file (or When LibreOffice executing auto
saving), Writer will stop accepting any keyboard input and takes 5 or more
seconds to save the file.
When I am hurry to finish some works, the 5 or more seconds saving time
that stop my working is stressful to me.
Is it possible that LibreOffice accept typing while user saving files?
Where to post my feature request ?

Thanks,



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5.1

2012-03-16 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I just installed 3.5.1 today on Ubuntu 11.10. I had been using 3.4.5. 
The language is US English. So far it has work fine in writer and calc. 
I haven't tried anything else yet. The auto spell checker is working 
perfectly. I have a list of recent files.


Don

On 03/16/2012 08:49 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote:

I see that LO 3.5.1 is out now. Can anyone confirm please if these
showstoppers have been fixed? and it is shwoing recent files on my system
[a] autospellcheck not working, and
[b] lack of recent history files.

I am reluctant to upgrade until I know that these showstoppers have been fixed.

Thank you
Sharon.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document

2012-02-11 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I didn't have any luck with Tom's link. I did a little research. In 
Ubuntu, this user file is at:

/home/user name/.libreoffice/3/user

In Ubuntu, if you are using Unity, click the home folder in the launcher 
bar (normally just under the Dash button) , then move your mouse to the 
top bar where the menus appear. Then click view, then show hidden files. 
When you look again at the files and folders, you will see .libreoffice. 
In Linux, a . before a folder or file name means it is a hidden file or 
folder. Go to the user folder name, and rename it to something like 
userbackup. Then when you open LibreOffice the next time, it will create 
a new user folder. I everything works in there, then you can copy back 
the contents from the contents of the backup file until the corrupt 
portion of the backup file starts the problem again.


Don

On 02/11/2012 06:46 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Home is a bit confusing on Ubuntu.  The system might well not be happy with you 
trying to save there.  On most GnuLinux systems (including Ubuntu) you get a 
folder called

/home

that you can see in the root / folder of the file-system.  It's a system-folder that you can't 
really save stuff in as a normal user.  Inside /home is a folder for each user-name that can login 
to the system.  Ubuntu has a Places menu that refers to something it calls 
home but is really the



/home/user



folder which you might not always be allowed to save to as a normal user.  Ok, 
maybe not hugely confusing but imprecise enough to cause a mis-step sometimes.  
So,

/home/user/Documents

is really the best place to try saving to.  LiveCds don't mind if you really mess up their system because they assume that you can't write to the Cd so when you reboot you get a fresh system.  So they happily drop you in as a SuperUser/RootUser/SystemAdministrator.  If you then login to a proper install as a normal user then you can open files written but not save over the top of them because you don't have elevated permissions anymore.  It will allow you to save the same file under a different name.  I add v1 at the end of the file-name or change v1 to v2. 


Err, i have made that about as clear as mud!  Sorry!
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Janice Chandlerjgchan...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] can't save a document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 11 February, 2012, 20:32

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:


Hi :)
Is the Ubuntu side full-up?  If you open a folder to look at the documents
inside then the menus at the top of the file-browser allow you to tick


Hi Tom,

Yes, I have a full install of Ubuntu. I have a 160 gig HD and it does not
have partitions, except for a small swap area. I still have more than 130
gig available.

I learned several years ago to save all files  of any importance to an
external drive. Right now I use a 16 gig ssd, which is about half full. I
have tried to save as to a different area, such as the home documents
folder, but get the same error message.

Jan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] .doc set by default problem

2012-02-05 Thread Don Myers

Hi Rafael,

I just tried changing the default from .odt to .doc and it worked fine. 
I'm running LibreOffice 3.4.5 on Ubuntu 11.10.


Don

On 02/05/2012 06:19 PM, Rafael Shemesh wrote:

Hello, i tried to set save as by default the .doc type, but it's not
working for me.
Steps:
ToolsOptionsLoad and SaveGeneral
Default file format and ODF settings..
Document type
Text document  Always save as
Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP/2003
Ok..
But when i create a new text document file it's created as .ODT.

Steps of creating new file..
Right mouse clickNEW  New text document.. And it's always .odt :))

I'm a student, all our lecturers are using microsoft office, so I need to
send them the .doc file, i know that i can save as manually to .doc, but i
wanted it automatic.

Thank you



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Re: [libreoffice-users] create mailmerge with spreadsheet librecalc without using libre base ! pls help how to do it TQ

2012-01-28 Thread Don Myers

Hi Sonic,

I would think you could register the new database in the spreadsheet by 
going to tooloptionsLibreOffice BaseDatabases. I've never tried that 
though. I know it works for odb files.


Don

On 01/27/2012 10:39 PM, sonic wrote:

HI,
i'm facing a problem which doing mailmerge without using BASE to registered
to the data source.
i did successfully do it with base but now i do not wan to using base to
registered the data from spreadsheet table librecalc  because i wan to edit
the spreadsheet data table easily for me to remove or del or update new
data...
may i know is there any solutions TQ
i have try using file -  wizard-  address data souirce-  other external data
source  -  no SDBC driver found

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Re: [libreoffice-users] The title bars have disappeared; how can I get them back?

2012-01-15 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

By classic, I am assuming you mean you are running Gnome and not Unity. 
If it is a problem of your top panel missing, here is how to restore them:

http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html

Don

On 01/15/2012 01:40 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

Try Ubuntu forum

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from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: John D. Herronparadox.her...@bluewin.ch
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:26:41
To:users@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] The title bars have disappeared; how can I get 
them back?

Hi, all. Running Ubuntu 11.04 (classic) on a preloaded Linux box.

Sometime in the afternoon, all of the window title bars (except on
Google Chrome) have suddenly disappeared!

As far as I know my box is not using compiz. Any suggestions on how I
might be able to get them back?

Thanks in advance.
john




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Re: [libreoffice-users] The way SUM works

2011-12-21 Thread Don Myers



On 21/12/11 5:18 PM, Don Myers wrote:



On 12/20/2011 08:27 PM, James Knott wrote:

nvrk wrote:
The number displayed in a Calc cell is limited in decimal places by 
the
formatting preference.  Set the number format for the cells to show 
more

decimal places and see the results.

In your case the sum calculation is based on the actual multiplication
result in the individual cells to a large number of decimal places, 
and

then the displayed sum shortened to show the decimal places set by the
formatting preference.

The (sum of the original entries) multiplied by (1,22) displayed to 
two

decimal places is not likely to display exactly the same as the sum of
(individual entries) multiplied by (the same multiplier).


That pretty well SUMs it up.  ;-)



Hi,

There is a setting for calc where you can have the total as shown and 
not as calculated:


Settings

Go to tools, options, calc, calculate, and check the box Precision 
as Shown


Don
Is this saved on a per spreadsheet basis or is it global (do I need to 
change it back and forth, if I open 2 sheets can one be Precision as 
Shown and the other normal.

steve


Steve,

That is a global setting.

Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] The way SUM works

2011-12-20 Thread Don Myers



On 12/20/2011 08:27 PM, James Knott wrote:

nvrk wrote:

The number displayed in a Calc cell is limited in decimal places by the
formatting preference.  Set the number format for the cells to show more
decimal places and see the results.

In your case the sum calculation is based on the actual multiplication
result in the individual cells to a large number of decimal places, and
then the displayed sum shortened to show the decimal places set by the
formatting preference.

The (sum of the original entries) multiplied by (1,22) displayed to two
decimal places is not likely to display exactly the same as the sum of
(individual entries) multiplied by (the same multiplier).


That pretty well SUMs it up.  ;-)



Hi,

There is a setting for calc where you can have the total as shown and 
not as calculated:


Settings

Go to tools, options, calc, calculate, and check the box Precision as 
Shown


Don


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature request for LibreOffice Calc

2011-12-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

There is a button on the format toolbar to merge and unmerge cells. The 
button appears as grayed out until you select some cells. It has always 
worked great for me.


Don

On 12/16/2011 05:58 PM, Jochen Betz wrote:

I had some problems to find a way to place my feature request. So my
first request would be to make this task itself easier.

So I hope this is (a|the right) way to address my concerns.


But what I'm missing in LibreOffice Calc (and I have to admit that
MSOffice has this feature) to merge cells by using the context menu. At
least for me it's so a common task to merge or split some cells that it
is very annoying and time consuming to use the regular format menu at
top of the window.

 From my point of view it should be possible without small effort to
implement this feature.

Thanks in advance
Jochen Betz



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Standalone PDF

2011-12-02 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

In Linux (I run Ubuntu.) you can install cups-pdf. When you want to 
print a document, select cups-pdf as the printer. It has worked very 
reliably for me. For Windows, I know nothing about doPDF. Source Forge 
has PDFCreator for Windows, and it is free from spy ware, advertising, 
etc. Use it like cups-pdf except in Windows.


Don

On 12/02/2011 06:23 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

No.

Most of the apps all go together.  Base is sometimes a separate thing that can be added but i 
don't think Base works on it's own.  In GnuLinux (such as Ubuntu, Mageia, RedHat) it 
might be possible to just use your normal package manager to find and install something else 
that does a convert to pdf.  In Windows there are a few things, perhaps doPDF but 
they are independant projects.  Google search (or Bing or whatever) might help you find a 3rd 
party app to do the job.

Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Paulagen...@yahoo.com
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Standalone PDF
To: users@global.libreoffice.org, disc...@documentfoundation.org, 
market...@global.libreoffice.org, des...@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 2 December, 2011, 4:12

Does Libre office have a stand alone PDF application?  ie - does Libre provide the PDF editor by itself without all the other features in the 200 MB download - is it possible to install only the PDF tool without all the other features ?  
All responses appreciated. Thanks, Paula




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Re: [libreoffice-users] writer: business cards w/ tables - duplicate cells

2011-11-19 Thread Don Myers

Hi Everyone,

I think the gentleman who made the initial post is using a table style 
template and not the ones which come with LibreOffice/OpenOffice. 
Therefore advice using the menus in LibreOffice do not help.


I always use the table style templates. I think OpenOffice had them 
available as an extension at one point, and they are available from 
http://www.worldlabel.com/ . I want each card to be the same, so I 
simply copy and past the information to the label next to it. Then I 
copy both cards on the first line to the second through 5th lines. It 
you want multiple pages, just copy the entire first page to the second page.


There is an easy way to prevent the blank pages. I will need access to 
my work computer to be able to find that and post that here. I will not 
be back to the office until Monday, and I will look it up then. I hope I 
can find it.


Don

On 11/19/2011 08:24 PM, Libre User wrote:

Mathew,

That blank second page is inserted by LibreWriter for some unknown 
reason.


After you have generated the business card, press Ctrl P to bring up 
the print menu.  Select the LibreOffice Writer tab and unselect Print 
automatically inserted blank pages.


Jerry

 At 02:17 PM 11/19/2011, you wrote:
I'm trying to print out some business cards in writer. The document 
consists of a 5x2 table taking up the entire page.


I'd like the first cell to be the master cell and the remaining 9 to 
just be duplicates. I've tried to set the other cells as a formula 
=A1, but that just leaves me with 0.


Is there some way to do this? If it involves fields, will it include 
the formatting?



As a secondary issue, the 5 cell rows are 2 inches high. The document 
is US Letter (11 inches long). And the top and bottom margins are set 
to .5 inches each. Therefore, everything should fit exactly. However, 
there is a blank second page which I cannot get rid of. Any suggestions?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] OO Base will not run in LO Base

2011-10-28 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

I developed my database about 8 years. I moved the data over from 
Paradox. I was running Windows at the time. I moved to Ubuntu 2 1/2 
years ago, and ran OO until this past spring. When the first release of 
LibreOffice came out this past spring, I uninstalled completely open 
office and did a clean install of LibreOffice. I've never had any issues 
using my database. I would recommend doing a complete uninstall of both 
Open Office and LibreOffice, and then doing a fresh install of 
LibreOffice directly from the LibreOffice site.


Here are the instructions for the 32 bit version for Ubuntu. They should 
work fine with Mint.
Download LibreOffice to your desktop. Right click on the download and 
extract it to the desktop. Then run the following in the terminal:

sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*
sudo apt-get remove openoffice*.*
sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb
sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.4-debian-menus_3.4-302_all.deb


If you are running 64 bit, simply change the version information.

If the above doesn't work, maybe you could try creating a new form in 
LibreOffice and see if that works.


Don

On 10/28/2011 05:47 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi All

I have written in on this subject before but got no 'real' answers and 
it is now becoming urgent!!


I have a Database that I developed several years ago in OO. It runs 
well and is used every day. I currently run it in OO (3.2.1). When LO 
first came out I installed this on a second machine and tried to run 
my DB with it but with no luck. I have had a tries as new versions of 
LO became available but always no luck.


My second machine recently started to give problems so I moved 
everything onto the main computer. I now have OO and LO (3.3.4) on the 
same machine. It still refuses to run my DB. So I have to have my DB 
open with OO and do my other work in LO. I have noticed a lot more 
crashes and freezes and other strange behavior since having everything 
on one machine. I read on the Forum just a day or so back that it is 
not recommended to run both programs at the same time which is no 
doubt the reason I'm seeing problems.


When I open LO Base it opens and shows me all my tables and forms etc. 
But when I select 'Forms' to start the program LO just closes. It has 
done this since the beginning!! If I do the same steps in OO it works 
fine!!


How can I transfer my DB to LO or what steps must I take to convert 
it to LO format!!??? As I said this has now become a priority for me. 
If this can not be done I will have to drop LO and stay with OO which 
I don't want to do.


My OpSys is Linux Mint 10 KDE.

Thanks Guys - I hope at least one of you can supply me with an answer.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

2011-10-19 Thread Don Myers

Have any of you run across this?
http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf
I ran across this about a year and a half ago. It is an excellent 
documentation put together for the European Union. I started to boycott 
Microsoft products about 6 years ago. Ronald Reagan said the Soviet 
Union was the evil empire. I've heard it said that Microsoft is the evil 
empire of the corporate world.


Don

On 10/19/2011 10:37 PM, planas wrote:

Scott

On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 13:42 -0400, Scott Castaline wrote:


My comments were based on articles written when this first hit. At that
time M$ was pushing for no option available to disable this function and
their explanation was that it would allow breaking of their system.
The option that you mention was being discussed as a possible option for
mfgs, but again M$ was fighting that at the time. Also note that I had
stated that if M$ gets their way which I personally don't think would
be possible, but then we never usually see what goes on behind closed doors.

We have seen that in the past M$ used pressure tactics to prevent mfgs
from supporting other OSes. Although M$ of today is much weaker there
has been recent developments that could be interpreted that they maybe
up to some of their old tricks with a slightly different twist to them.
That's all I was trying to say.


You would not be accusing MS of trying to lock everyone out of the OS.
Actually they may force their own death because people using other
devices and the cloud could be much less dependent on MS products than
now. I would hope that some European at least and preferably the US
government threatens serious lawsuits with the possibility of real jail
time.


On 10/19/2011 01:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

Come on people, please do a little research before spreading FUD...

This is an OPTION in the BIOS, one that can be TURNED OFF.

Any systems manufacturer that disallowed the ability to turn it off
would be committing commercial suicide imnsho...

Yes, there is some *potential* for this becoming a problem in the
dustant future, but not in the next 5 or 10 years...

On 2011-10-19 12:43 PM, Scott Castalineskotch...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:


Please read the linked article. [below]

If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a
Windows 8
logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux. This
will be
part of the BIOS. You might not be able to run free software like
LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.


I should think that is illegal under competition law.

To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems
cannot

run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS. Billy
boy is
going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if
people do
not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their products
if they
implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, then we
cannot
buy any new computers for Linux.


We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. Might
even
be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying
hardware
that is not restricted in that way. I might start a new business :-)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**

Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will deem
it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their systems. That
also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same PC. This
will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 versions
of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4
versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets
their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more
than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource back
to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.

foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=**tag=nl.rSINGLEhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=tag=nl.rSINGLE


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=**tag=nl.rSINGLEhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=tag=nl.rSINGLE


Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory Windows 8
UEFI
cage

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT

Summary: The Free Software Foundation is asking OEMs to give users a
choice
on Microsoft anti-Linux Windows 8's United Extensive Firmware security
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread Don Myers

On 10/18/2011 07:35 PM, NoOp wrote:

If you would have/read/  what it said, you would have seen that it was
*openJDK*  version 1.6.0_23 (which of course is the Sun/Oracle package) -
bottom of the Java options panel:
Location:/usr/lib/jvm/java6-openjdk/jre

Hi NoOP,

Thank you for your detailed response. With all due respect, when I 
clicked in LibreOffice on Tools/Options/Java LibreOffice said exactly:

Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23

and not openJDK

I can take a screenshot of it for you tomorrow if you would like.

Don

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Don Myers
In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you 
CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change the 
boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.


Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  
My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get 
it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win 
Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 
looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB 
graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated 
it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional 
menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling 
Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way the top-taskbar 
becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse arrow over it and i 
really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and Firefox is so 
easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)






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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want font embedding to be enabled today.

2011-09-29 Thread Don Myers

Thank you Dennis!!!

Don

On 09/29/2011 11:41 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

Fortunately, my top-posting mail client does have an easy block sender
action.  Also fortunately, this list sends out posts as if they are
actually from the sender, so this is easy to do.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Callme Shane [mailto:callmeshane...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 19:54
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] I want font embedding to be enabled today.

[Obscenity deleted]



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:39 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
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Please keep this clean people.

If you want font embedding done today, then use CUPS-PDF for Linux and
doPDF for Windows to get a sharable file that has the fonts embedded.

If you thing that something like font embedding can be included, in a
package as large as LO, over night then you do not know about how hard such
things can be and how long it can take.

If you just want to wine and pout about something, go somewhere to do it
since this is a list that tries to help others, not offend them.  This goes
to all parties in this thread.

How about some help, not crap?

On 09/29/2011 02:42 PM, Callme Shane wrote:


Don't you have anything else to do with your otherwise worthless life? -
except ask stupid questions?



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker
gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 29/09/2011 19:35, Callme Shane wrote:

  This is my report on the subject.

Font embedding is necessary.

I am also removing the implied authority from those who think they can
stop myself or others from implementing this function.

It's been stated:

A completely open development process means that anyone can enhance the
software.

I am now going to use the idiots in this organisation who get in my way
as
feet wipes, and I am going to make font embedding happen.

And I will not stop until this has been achieved.

This is what I think of the crap that goes on in these organisations:


http://tinyurl.com/3oyjeuo

http://tinyurl.com/6kyk3ps

http://tinyurl.com/6l5vtet

http://tinyurl.com/44z8yqa

  May I suggest you learn about apostrophes first?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

GREAT! It is a day/night difference!

On 09/17/2011 03:39 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:



On 17/09/2011 04:03, Don Myers wrote:


This solved my problem totally. 1.6.0_21 works very fast with Base.


After LOTS of problems with Base I also went this way and it works for 
me too!!!


I can recommend it to everyone using Base Almost perfect again!!!

Ian Whitfield



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers



On 09/16/2011 10:59 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/16/2011 07:03 PM, Don Myers wrote:


On 09/16/2011 08:31 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/16/2011 11:44 AM, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC 
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I then 
save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know what 
causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are of 0 
(zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger


And what happens if you turn off auto backup?





Hi All,

Base worked well for me in Windows since it was created while I was
running Windows, and for two years in Ubuntu until the Java for Linux
was updated from 1.6.0_22 to 1.6.0_24 last spring. At that point Base
became almost unusable. In a database with 2500 records, instead of
going from the first record to the last record in about 1 second, the
time became 25 to 30 seconds. When I looked at CPU usage. 1 core would
be running at 100% during this time. Java 1.6.0_26 then came out, and
the same problem existed. About 5 weeks ago someone started a thread
titled something like Base runs unacceptably slowly. One person left a
post stating that in Linux you can have more than one version of Java
installed at the same time and left the following instructions:

Please provide a link to your bug reports (for both LO and Java). Thanks.
...


I think the LibreOfice bug report was closed when the workaround was 
discovered. I think a notice was sent out to that effect. I don't know 
what had been filed with Java. One would have thought when OpenOffice 
and Java were both owned by Oracle that there would have been some 
communication between them. The problems stated before Oracle disposed 
of Open Office.

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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am 
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java 
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be 
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.


I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database 
included with base will not work without Java.


Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at  wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger



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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi Tom,

There is an old saying - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing I 
dislike most about Base is to have to open three windows to get to my 
form in the database. Some time ago I left a post on an Open Office 
forum asking if there was a way to set up a macro so I could do it in 
one click. There were never any replies. With Paradox or Access I was 
able to go to the form by just opening the program. But what I really 
like about Base is I just have 1 file to copy to keep my database 
updated on my three other computers. When I say if it ain't broken, 
don't fix it, I've never had one issue using Base. It has worked very 
well for me over a long period (7 or 8 years) of time. There are few 
programs I've ever used that have had that kind of dependability.


Don

On 09/17/2011 06:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your back-end 
to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm not sure 
if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i thought it was 
but i could be wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database
included with base will not work without Java.

Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at   wrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are
of 0 (zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger


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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-17 Thread Don Myers

Thank you Tom,

Only one of them is on the same network. That is basically a backup 
computer. The other two are at a different location and are not 
networked with the first two.


Don

On 09/17/2011 06:58 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
If the different machines are on a Lan then it might be possible to share the 
back-end and then any change from any of the 3 machines would be on the other 
machines too?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:44

Hi Tom,

There is an old saying - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing I
dislike most about Base is to have to open three windows to get to my
form in the database. Some time ago I left a post on an Open Office
forum asking if there was a way to set up a macro so I could do it in
one click. There were never any replies. With Paradox or Access I was
able to go to the form by just opening the program. But what I really
like about Base is I just have 1 file to copy to keep my database
updated on my three other computers. When I say if it ain't broken,
don't fix it, I've never had one issue using Base. It has worked very
well for me over a long period (7 or 8 years) of time. There are few
programs I've ever used that have had that kind of dependability.

Don

On 09/17/2011 06:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your back-end 
to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm not sure 
if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i thought it was 
but i could be wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com   wrote:

From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13

Hi All,

I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am
using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java
(I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
The connection to the data source RE Database could not be
established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.

I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database
included with base will not work without Java.

Don

On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think that 
might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy without java.  
Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans available = so i would 
just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it on again quite easily if i 
needed it.

Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
then UNtick the box at the very top Use a java runtime environment.  I have 
only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot faster.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.atwrote:

From: Heinrich Stoellingerhc.stoellin...@aon.at
Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.orgusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55

Hello again,
Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
worry me much.
So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
That would be more than alright for me...
Regards
H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200

Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
database connectivity and input forms.
All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.



Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
then save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
what causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-16 Thread Don Myers



On 09/16/2011 08:31 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/16/2011 11:44 AM, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello again,
On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC 
connetcion
to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I then 
save
LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know what 
causes
this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an aweful
lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
All of them have a filename something like rmodbc.odb_9777.odb and are of 0 
(zero)
size. I wonder what's wrong.
Regards
H. Stoellinger


And what happens if you turn off auto backup?



  

Hi All,

Base worked well for me in Windows since it was created while I was 
running Windows, and for two years in Ubuntu until the Java for Linux 
was updated from 1.6.0_22 to 1.6.0_24 last spring. At that point Base 
became almost unusable. In a database with 2500 records, instead of 
going from the first record to the last record in about 1 second, the 
time became 25 to 30 seconds. When I looked at CPU usage. 1 core would 
be running at 100% during this time. Java 1.6.0_26 then came out, and 
the same problem existed. About 5 weeks ago someone started a thread 
titled something like Base runs unacceptably slowly. One person left a 
post stating that in Linux you can have more than one version of Java 
installed at the same time and left the following instructions:

Overview:

1. Download the JRE archive (approx. 20 mb)
2. Extract in /tmp
3. as root, copy the extracted directory to /usr/lib/jvm
4. set this JRE as the JRE of choice in LO (ToolsOptionsJava)
5. Exit LO  restart

Instructions:

1.Download jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin (for i386) or jre-6u21-linux-x64.bin for
x86_64 from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jre-6u21-b07-oth-JPR
JRE archive at ORACLE . Save to /tmp . Open Terminal and enter cd /tmp. 
Then do the following commands:

2.run it using: sh jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin . The JRE is now extracted to
/tmp/jre1.6.0_21/
3. copy to /usr/lib/jvm sudo cp -a jre1.6.0_21/ /usr/lib/jvm
4. Exit  restart office.  In ToolsOptionsJava, choose 1.6.0_21. Exit 
restart office
5. Load you Base file  compare the speed.

If you want to remove it simply set the JRE back to the old one in
ToolsOptionsJava  sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.6.0_21/

This does not replace your current Java install in your browsers, or 
even show up in synaptic package manager. But it does  show up as being 
available for LibreOffice. This solved my problem totally. 1.6.0_21 
works very fast with Base. I haven't worried about security problems 
since the browsers are using the current versions, there isn't any 
plugin installed for 1.6.0_21 for the browsers, and also since it 
doesn't show up in synaptic. Does that mean there are not any risks? I 
don't know, but I would think any risk would be minimal.


The reason I think this might be your problem is because you have the 
same issue with CPU usage that I did.


Don




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

2011-09-11 Thread Don Myers

This is a general replay to

Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

illustrating my personal situation, and why my answer is *yes*.

I moved from Microsoft Office Professional to Word Perfect Office 
Professional probably 12 to 13 years ago. The reason for the 
professional versions is that I needed a database as well as an office 
suite. When Open Office first came out, I moved to it, starting with 
version .9 something. I needed to keep Paradox as my database at that 
time. Once Base became available with Open Office, I was able to move to 
Base and drop proprietary software for an office suite completely. Once 
I had everything in Open Office, I had one major step forward for 
someday moving to Linux instead of Windows. I made that transition 2 1/2 
years ago. I get many attachments from co-workers and other 
organizations that are sent in Microsoft format. Most of these documents 
are relatively simple. I've not had anyone send me anything in docx 
format I couldn't read. Generally I will need to adjust margins, or 
something like that. I'm 97% Windows free. I only use it for video 
editing and for a forms program which will not work with Wine in Linux. 
Most of the people who send me these attachments are using what they are 
required to use, which is Microsoft. If I could not be somewhat 
compatible with them, Open Office or LibreOffice now, would be of no 
value to me at all.


If we could get back to the big push of several years for governments to 
adopt odf standards for all of their documents, we would all be a lot 
better off. But that push would never work if there wasn't some backward 
compatibility for the former Microsoft users to be able to open previous 
documents.


Don
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Should LibreOffice even support Microsoft secret formats?

2011-09-11 Thread Don Myers

On 09/11/2011 03:05 PM, NoOp wrote:

As a matter of fact, which formats that matter for OpenOffice are
  believed to be secret?  I can't find any that OpenOffice converts
  that are not public and licensed under the Open Specification Promise
  as well.
  
  That may not be enough assurance for some folks, but it is definitely

  not because they are secret.
  
My assumption was that the word secret was used where it should have 
been propriety. But certainly Microsoft wants to prevent as much 
compatibility as possible.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-07 Thread Don Myers

Reply below:

On 09/07/2011 08:02 PM, NoOp wrote:

For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please
consider bottom posting with interspersed replies.

I realiz(s)e that the existing:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
doesn't specifically clarify anything with regards to top/bottom
posting. However at the bottom of each mail on this list is a link to:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
That page doesn't help much either, but it /does/ include a link to:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
which includes this bit:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3

quote
2.3 Why should I place my response below the quoted text?

Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom,
and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially
people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would
qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if
they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted
text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will
not work, if you place the quoted text below your response.

Furthermore, that's the standard. This may sound as a weak argument, but
since people are not used to reading the other way around, they have no
idea what you are referring to and have to go back and forth between the
referenced articles, have to jump between different articles and so on.
In short - reading the article becomes more and more difficult - for
people who read many articles it is reason enough to skip the entire
article, if the context is not obvious.

And besides: doesn't it look stupid to first get the answer and then see
the question? (Aside from Jeopardy, of course.)

Furthermore, you (yes: You) save a lot of time using this way of
quoting: You do not need to repeat what the person you refer to wrote,
in order to show the context. You just place your comment after the text
you wish to comment upon, and everybody immediately knows what you refer
to. Also, you realize which text you are *not* responding to and can
delete these parts.

So: using this technique you save time, your readers don't have to waste
time, you save bandwidth and disk-space. Isn't it great what you can
achieve by such simple means?
/quote

and that seems to imply that such posting styles on this list are the
desired guideline.

Samples of similar on other lists:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
quote
Top-posting vs bottom-posting.

 Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it
the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates
about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the
forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with
trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is
equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place
your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.
The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting.
/quote

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
quote
Proper quoting:

Proper quoting is very important on mailing lists, to ensure that it is
easy to follow the conversation. There are four fundamental rules:



 Write your email underneath the email which you are replying to.
...
/quote

and even:
http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html
quote
Replying
When replying to other people it is customary to intersperse your
response with their questions, both so you can answer the actual
question that was asked, and so everyone else has some idea what you are
talking about. It is also customary to limit your quoting to the minimum
possible to get your point across. Take the time to be considerate,
remember those subscribers who have slow, expensive connections.
/quote

Note: that last is liable to go away given the recent
transition/announcements by Apache regarding mail lists... but it's
worth mentioning anyway.

Eventually I hope that LO will actually include a link to general
posting guidelines on the
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/  page with complete
posting guidelines. Even if the final consensus is to only top post...
at least will help with consistancy on this (users), and the other LO lists.

Added Note: I've set the 'Followup-to' on this message to the discuss
list as I think that is more the appropriate location for continued
discussion of the issue. But I posted here initially on the users list
as this is the list that really needs the guidelines (IMO) the most.




Hi All,

I will respect your wishes about posting at the bottom. I live in the 
US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work 
e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the 
bottom. The reply is always at the top. I never understood why 
Thunderbird had the default to reply at the bottom when 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-07 Thread Don Myers



On 09/07/2011 08:13 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/07/2011 05:02 PM, NoOp wrote:
...

Added Note: I've set the 'Followup-to' on this message to the discuss
list as I think that is more the appropriate location for continued
discussion of the issue. But I posted here initially on the users list
as this is the list that really needs the guidelines (IMO) the most.

Apologies for the last. I forgot that nntp followup doesn't work via
gmane.org. So I'll repost on the discuss list  will appreciate it if
folks on the 'users' list comment there rather than taking up added
space on this list.

Gary





Sorry! I didn't see this until I sent the last e-mail.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-07 Thread Don Myers



On 09/07/2011 10:13 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:

On 9/7/2011 9:54 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:

I also get a crash any time I try to do a search of records.
Something about LibreOffice caused an invalid request or something.

Actually, just created a bug for this: **Bug 40701*
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40701*.


---
Steven Shelton



When doing the following:

1. Open an existing database.
2. Open a form.
3. Click on the Find Record button on the bottom left.

Search works fine in Base 3.4.3 running on Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-07 Thread Don Myers



On 09/07/2011 10:33 PM, planas wrote:

Hi

On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 21:29 -0400, Don Myers wrote:


Reply below:

On 09/07/2011 08:02 PM, NoOp wrote:

For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please
consider bottom posting with interspersed replies.

I realiz(s)e that the existing:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
doesn't specifically clarify anything with regards to top/bottom
posting. However at the bottom of each mail on this list is a link to:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
That page doesn't help much either, but it /does/ include a link to:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
which includes this bit:
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.3

quote
2.3 Why should I place my response below the quoted text?

Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom,
and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially
people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would
qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if
they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted
text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will
not work, if you place the quoted text below your response.

Furthermore, that's the standard. This may sound as a weak argument, but
since people are not used to reading the other way around, they have no
idea what you are referring to and have to go back and forth between the
referenced articles, have to jump between different articles and so on.
In short - reading the article becomes more and more difficult - for
people who read many articles it is reason enough to skip the entire
article, if the context is not obvious.

And besides: doesn't it look stupid to first get the answer and then see
the question? (Aside from Jeopardy, of course.)

Furthermore, you (yes: You) save a lot of time using this way of
quoting: You do not need to repeat what the person you refer to wrote,
in order to show the context. You just place your comment after the text
you wish to comment upon, and everybody immediately knows what you refer
to. Also, you realize which text you are *not* responding to and can
delete these parts.

So: using this technique you save time, your readers don't have to waste
time, you save bandwidth and disk-space. Isn't it great what you can
achieve by such simple means?
/quote

and that seems to imply that such posting styles on this list are the
desired guideline.

Samples of similar on other lists:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
quote
Top-posting vs bottom-posting.

  Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it
the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates
about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the
forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with
trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is
equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place
your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.
The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting.
/quote

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
quote
Proper quoting:

Proper quoting is very important on mailing lists, to ensure that it is
easy to follow the conversation. There are four fundamental rules:



  Write your email underneath the email which you are replying to.
...
/quote

and even:
http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html
quote
Replying
When replying to other people it is customary to intersperse your
response with their questions, both so you can answer the actual
question that was asked, and so everyone else has some idea what you are
talking about. It is also customary to limit your quoting to the minimum
possible to get your point across. Take the time to be considerate,
remember those subscribers who have slow, expensive connections.
/quote

Note: that last is liable to go away given the recent
transition/announcements by Apache regarding mail lists... but it's
worth mentioning anyway.

Eventually I hope that LO will actually include a link to general
posting guidelines on the
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/   page with complete
posting guidelines. Even if the final consensus is to only top post...
at least will help with consistancy on this (users), and the other LO lists.

Added Note: I've set the 'Followup-to' on this message to the discuss
list as I think that is more the appropriate location for continued
discussion of the issue. But I posted here initially on the users list
as this is the list that really needs the guidelines (IMO) the most.




Hi All,

I will respect your wishes about posting at the bottom. I live in the
US. I do a lot of work e-mails in my job, and receive a lot of work
e-mails. I never receive any e-mails where people reply to me at the
bottom. The reply

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [OT] Microsloth Winblows was: Re: Lotus Wordpro files

2011-09-02 Thread Don Myers

Hi Brian,

Many times I've stuck my foot in my mouth. I'm not implying you stuck 
yours in your mouth There are times when none of us make the 
best choices in the world!!


Other than what I had read about Linux, I had no experience with any 
distribution, nor did I have any mentor or know anyone who had used it, 
or tried using it. So I was on my own when I did it. I had planned for 
it to happen some day for a period of years. I had switched to Firefox 
for a browser. I had switched to OpenOffice as soon as it was out from 
Word Perfect Office. I had ditched Microsoft Office about 4 years prior. 
I did have to stick with Paradox from Word Perfect Office originally 
since Base did not exist with OpenOffice initially. Once Base existed, I 
moved to it from Paradox, so then I was in a position to make the move 
to Linux someday with as little disruption as possible.


I had read about Linux for quite a few years. The reviews kept saying 
how it was getting better. My first experience with it was in February 
2009 with Ubuntu 8.10. Why Ubuntu? Good press reviews, and with it being 
one of the larger distributions, I figured I would be able to get more 
help for issues I had, and if I had a problem with something, somebody 
else would have had the same problem and hopefully a solution, sort of 
like this list for LibreOffice. My reason for doing what I do here is 
not because I have the time to do it. I really don't. But I'm trying to 
return help on things I've had experience with to help others the way 
others have helped me. You pointed out many of the negatives about 
Microsoft which I feel the same about. If I can point someone in a 
better direction, I do it. One thing I really like about Linux and 
Ubuntu, after I do an install ( 22 computers to date) I hardly ever hear 
from the owner of the computer. I don't have time to be a support 
technician!! With Linux and Ubuntu, I don't have to be one. Think 
how many support calls I'd be taking if I had done 22 windows installs!!


Thank you for being understanding of my comment about the title!!

Don

PS - OS 2 was out while Windows 95 was being developed. Windows 95 kept 
getting delayed, so I actually ran OS 2 Warp for a period of time. It 
worked great! It was much more stable than Windows 3.1/3.11, and also 
more stable than Windows 95.




On 09/02/2011 09:46 PM, Grawburg wrote:

Okay - point taken.  Should have left the respelling out.
BTW, I have to be a little thick-skinned if I'm going to use OS/2  :-)

Brian
-Original Message-

You are. But I think you are missing my point; you might become offended
were I to refer to OS/2 as 'OhSht/2' or similar and then go on to offer
opinions as to why OS/2 should be banned from the earth (exaggerating
here of course).

Point is that users on this list come from all walks of life, are
global, use different/multiple OS's, *and* LO supports: Microsoft, Linux
and, Mac OS X. I see no reason to intentionally refer to Microsoft
Windows as Microsloth Winblows, do you (now)?








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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Microsloth Winblows was: Re: Lotus Wordpro files

2011-09-01 Thread Don Myers

I totally agree NoOp.

On 09/01/2011 10:04 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 08/31/2011 07:17 AM, Grawburg wrote:

Why not install Virtual PC?  I have a client who had to do this and
it works very well.

You have found one of the major deficiency of Microsloth Winblows.  I

...
I don't think that it's really necessary, or appropriate, to use the
above - particularly on this list. LO supports multiple operating
systems, Microsoft Windows being one of them. I use linux (also test in
MS Windows), and I don't find the need to slam other OS's in the
process. What OS the user selects is their own personal choice (we now
have that option).




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.4.3 released. Stable and functionality combined

2011-08-31 Thread Don Myers

Hi Everyone,

For me, the issues with LibreOffice started with Java 1.6.0_24 and 
continued with 1.6.0_26. I run Ubuntu 11.04. Ubuntu, for the last 
several releases, has not shipped Java with it, but uses an open Java 
called Iced Tea. I always install Sun Java once I have a new version 
installed. When the issues arose with 1.6.0_24, I deleted all of Sun 
Java, and went back to Iced Tea. I had not luck with it working any 
better than the Sun Java 1.6.0_24. I've been running 1.6.0_26 for my 
browsers, and 1.6.0_21 for LibreOffice for about 3 weeks now, and 
everything works perfectly. Based on my past experience of trying Iced 
Tea, I'll stick with the two Java versions. I'm presently running 
LibreOffice 3.4.2 and hope to install 3.4.3 tonight.


The key numbers in versions in comparing Linux versions and Windows 
versions of Java are the 6 ( Linux 1.*6*.0_21  
jre-*6*u21-windows-i586-s.exe ) and the 20 whatever ( Linux 1.6.0_*21*  
jre-6u*21*-windows-i586-s.exe ). So, Linux version 1.6.0_21 and windows 
jre-6u21-windows-i586-s.exe are the same version for their respective 
platforms.


Don


On 08/31/2011 10:35 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Tom
you show 2.6.0_21.  My Ubuntu version shows 1.6.0_20.  Was that a 
error, or is something wrong on my end.  The files just say similar to 
the Windows version named jre-6u23-windows-i586-s.exe.  There is no 
1 or 2 in front of the version.  The 1 in front of the Ubuntu 
repository version may be their numbering scheme, instead of any other 
meaning.


I was told, if I remember correctly, that the issues started somewhere 
around update 25 or 26.  The NA-DVD has update 23, since that was a 
version that worked, since it was the one on the original German beta 
test ISO from the later winter or early spring.


On 08/31/2011 10:20 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Perhaps an intermittent problem like the OpenOffice.org servers?

I would definitely try the normal java but a version around 2.6.0_21 
rather than
anything newer.  The new ones seem to break LibreOffice somehow but 
are better
for web-browsers apparently.  Luckily it's very easy to have both and 
it's easy

to select which one LibreOffice uses.  I think the web-browsers tend to
automatically choose the newest version so, hopefully, it should all 
work out.

Regards from
Tom :)






From: Declan Moriartydeclan_moria...@yahoo.co.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 31 August, 2011 13:59:49
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.4.3 released. Stable and 
functionality

combined

The server must be down.  I have tried to get to it here in the U.K 
and Safari
can't connect either.  I think that from the quote it implies that 
only Linux
users are affected by this issue, everyone else should be OK.  I hope 
so, since
this sort of Java performance problem should be fixed - especially 
since it is a
new version of LibO that is out, and there have been similar problems 
in the

past?

Declan Moriarty

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From: webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.4.3 released. Stable and 
functionality

combined
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 31 August, 2011, 14:49


I still get the following:
 Problem loading page
 Server not found
 Firefox can't find the server at openjdk.java.net

I can download files from the LO web site, so it is not my Internet 
connection.


Where is from here?  Where is the server located?  Could there be 
some break
in communication, due to the power outages from the Tropical Storm 
damage, and
the DNS routering between me and the server have not found a new 
path?  For me,
I am in New York State USA, on the eastern fringe of the storm.  
30-40 mph winds
and medium to heavy rains.  Not much damage here.  But if you drive 2 
hours
east, you get downed power lines, washed out roads and bridges, and a 
whole lot
of mess.  To get to NY City from here you go 1.5 hours east and 3+ 
hours south

[as the highway travels].

On 08/31/2011 08:41 AM, Dave Sergeant wrote:

http://openjdk.java.net/ opens fine here. But it only has releases for
Linux, nothing for Windows that I can see.

Dave

On 31 Aug 2011 at 8:14, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


n the Release Notes it states the following - quote:  If you run
Linux, the GCJ Java variant has known issues with LibreOffice, we 
advise

to e.g. use OpenJDK instead.

Google points to the following URL:  http://openjdk.java.net/;  
but the

site is either down or no longer valid.

SO any ideas where people can get OpenJDK as recommended in the
LibreOffice 3.4.3 Release Notes?  For Windows, Linux, and Mac?


http://www.davesergeant.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3

2011-08-31 Thread Don Myers
It is working fine for me on Ubuntu 11.04 and LibreOffice 3.4.3 just 
installed.


On 08/31/2011 08:22 PM, planas wrote:

On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 13:15 -0700, Andreas Säger wrote:


What happens when it is not working?
Do you see the dialog? If so, which text language does it assume?
See an error message? What does it say?
Wrong positives? Which ones?
Wrong negatives? Which ones?

ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguagesWestern Language ?
Do you start with a prepared template or default template? Which language
does the status bar indicate?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.4.3 released. Stable and functionality combined

2011-08-31 Thread Don Myers

Hi Soumalya Ray and all,

I've been using Ubuntu for about 2 1/2 years, and have been through 
versions 8.10, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, and now 11.04. In my early days 
with Ubuntu, the only way to get major upgrades to Open Office, Firefox, 
etc., between versions, was to download them and install them directly. 
Yes, I know everything is supposed to come from the Ubuntu repository, 
and for the most part I do that. But not with previously Open Office 
upgrades, and now with LibreOffice. I've seen posts here saying that the 
repository versions are better. They are fancier, and tailored to the 
distribution. But from time to time I've had functionality issues. I've 
never had any issues with the downloads from Open Office and now 
LibreOffice. Therefore I follow instructions I found several years ago 
on the Internet to upgrade Open Office, and that I've modified for 
LibreOffice. You need to tweak these instructions for each new release 
of LibreOffice with respect to the the version number and also the menu 
information. These instructions have worked perfectly for me many times 
on many computers, all running some version of Ubuntu. But you will be 
leaving the Ubuntu versions.


Here are the directions for LibreOffice 3.4.3 32 bit for Ubuntu, and I 
would assume other Debian varities:


Download the Debian version from The Document Foundation 
(LibO_3.4.3_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz)
If it was not downloaded to the desktop, move it from the download 
location to the desktop.


Right click on the file and extract this file to the desktop. This will 
give you a file called LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/


Open a terminal, and enter the following commands:
sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.*

sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/*.deb

sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.4-Debian-menus_3.4-302_all.deb


sudo dpkg -i 
~/Desktop/LibO_3.4.3rc2_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.4-Debian-menus_3.4-302_all.deb


CAUTION: I have never run multiple versions on the same computer. These 
instructions will remove any and all versions presently installed and 
install 3.4.3 only. In all instances, all of my default settings, such 
as Java version, have remained in tact.


If you are using Unity, you will need to drag the new icons for the new 
version to the launcher bar.


Don

On 08/31/2011 01:23 PM, soumalya ray wrote:

is there any ppa for 3.4.* versions?the ppa:libreoffice/ppa is showing 3.3.*
versions for ubuntu lucid.

On 31 August 2011 22:31, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:


Hi :)
I don't know if LO likes jre7.  Given that it seems to be going downhill i
would
avoid it but it's probably worth testing as you can always change quite
easily.
Just be careful what files you open using the version you are testing ;)
  Also
please let us know how it goes if you do test it.

Regards from
Tom :)






From: David H. Lipmandlip...@verizon.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 31 August, 2011 15:07:04
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 3.4.3 released.  Stable and functionality
combined

From: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
Just a quick note for everyone else who has spent ages balancing the

advantages

of the 3.3.x line with the 3.4.x branch.  The 3.4.3 should give the

advantages

of both.  It is only just released so it's worth looking in the release

notes.

It's probably best to install alongside whichever release you are

currently

using just in case there are a few teething troubles in the first few

days.

This is the release i have been waiting for :)
Good luck  and good work all :)
Regards from
Tom :)


Does it recognize JRE v7.0 ?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CURRENT_DATE or TODAY default date in Base

2011-08-30 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

When I created my forms about 8 years ago, the OpenOffice Base tutorial 
then recommended the use of the drop down date field. It isn't as nice 
as having a date automatically entered, but it is relatively convenient.


On 08/30/2011 05:55 AM, John Mullen wrote:

Thanks Alex,

at least the dropdown in the form Date field has a TODAY option saving the
user a little time

Regards

John

On 30 August 2011 10:31, Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com  wrote:


Le 30/08/11 11:18, John Mullen a écrit :

Hi John,


have tried this but although the Status window in the  Execute SQL

Statement

Dialog Box reports 1: Command successfully executed. there has been no
change to the table.


The command Andreas gave you updates the table definition so that the
next time you enter a set of data into the table, whether by editing the
table view directly or via a form, it should input the current date
automatically.

If this is what you have already tried, and it is not working, then I
would surmise that it may possibly be linked to this bug :

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38337


for which there is currently no remedy...

Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Pimaco extension for labels

2011-08-17 Thread Don Myers

Hi Claudio,

You are most welcome. I'm sorry that didn't help. I print most of my 
labels using an HP OfficeJet Pro 8000 printer through cups in Ubuntu 
11.04. I have not had any problem at all once I adjust the top margin 
and the column width to make sure everything is fitting on the label. 
I'm sorry, but I don't know what else to suggest. Maybe someone else can 
help.


Don

On 08/17/2011 10:34 AM, Claudio Aranha wrote:

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Hi Don

Thanks for your help, but the problem still persists. I have found the
model on World Label and get the same error when printing. I'm
starting to think it may be a problem with CUPS (Common Unix Printing
System) because I get the same error with another program.

Thanks,
Claudio

Em 12-08-2011 18:17, Don C. Myers escreveu:

Hi,

Open Office had form templates which an enterprising individual
developed based on tables instead of instead of the block style
that came with Open Office and like what Microsoft Word uses. I've
used the US sizes and they work perfectly. It is super easy to
adjust the column width by just dragging. The US sizes always start
with the typing in the center of the label also. I'm not sure where
to find them in Libre Office, but you can download them from
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm . I will
never go back to the old style of labels formats. There was a
tutorial on the Internet at one time. You may also find some help
on the World Label site

Don

On 08/12/2011 05:04 PM, Claudio Aranha wrote:

Hi friends

I've been using LibreOffice since StarOffice and I always had
dificulties printing labels, the Pimaco released a extension for
BrOffice (Openoffice name in Brazil), this one:
http://www.pimaco.com.br/images/upload/downloads/pimaco-labels.oxt




The problem is that all the printed labels are more up and left than

they should be, sometimes invading another label.


I'm on Debian 6 with LibreOffice 3.4.2 and paper in the printer
and LibreOffice is set to A4.

Thank you

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7

2011-08-09 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

When we had the long thread about Base working really slowly and the 
problem being Java, I thought someone said the issue only affected those 
running Base in Linux. I only run it (but on 4 machines) in Ubuntu. I 
have no Windows installs. When Ubuntu had 1.6.0_22 as the default, my 
base worked fine. When the Java 1.6.0_24 update was installed, base 
became horribly slow. When the 1.6.0_26 update was installed, it was 
still very slow. Someone in the thread said that in Linux you can have 
two Java versions installed on a system side by side, and he gave 
instructions on how to do it. Following those instructions, I've tried 
both 1.6.0_21 and 1.6.0_22. Base works well with both of them, but is 
just a tiny bit faster on my systems with the _21 version. When you 
install the second version as per the instructions this person gave, the 
older version is only used for LibreOffice. The browsers are still using 
the latest version, so you have all of the security protection of the 
latest version. I'm sorry I can't give you advise relative to Windows 
systems. I don't know if Windows has the same situation as Linux. The 
problem wasn't that Base didn't run in Linux. It was just very sluggish.


On 08/09/2011 06:50 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Except that quite a few people have reported problems with ultra-new java such
as the  _26 version.  The _22 and _20 were ok but the _21 seems to be the best
for LibreOffice Base.  I think the _22 is the standard one in the Ubuntu repos
but i'm not sure about other distros or Windows (or Mac or Bsd).  It might mean
you need to have 2 versions of Java installed as your web-browser might be using
something other than the _20 - _22

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 7 August, 2011 14:00:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.4.2 doesn't run on Windows 7


I remember something about Sun/Oracle older version of Java having problem with
LibreOffice, but there is an open-source version that would instead.

The one on my Ubuntu system states it is Sun's Java, but the file's name
[folder's name] of the runtime engine seems to be Java-6-openjdk.

I know someone on this list would know what the best link for it is.  Ubuntu
seems to have it on its repository, but Windows would need a link to
find/download it for their use.

As for the latest version of Java, it is always a good idea to keep your version
of Java up-to-date.

On 08/07/2011 07:20 AM, Juan Antonio wrote:

Solved . The problem was *Java*. It wasn't correctly installed in my pc.

I've desinstalled Java and then installed the last version, and LibreOffice
Base runs normally.

Regards!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-07-30 Thread Don Myers
My first database was a dos version. I then moved to Microsoft Office 
and bought Access to add to it. After a few years I got tired of paying 
Microsoft prices and got Word Perfect Office Pro which included Paradox. 
It worked very well. Once Open Office came out, I figured that would 
ultimately be the end of Word Perfect, so I moved to it, but kept the 
Word Perfect Suite because I needed a database which was not initially 
included in OpenOffice. I was delighted when OpenOffice added base, and 
converted my database from Paradox to Base. My needs are relatively 
basic for a database. It is mainly for keeping records and also mail 
merge with LibreOffice writer. I've never had any issues with mail 
merge. In the back of my mind I really wanted to move to Linux and knew 
that time would happen sometime, so I tried to have as many programs 
cross compatible as possible. Almost 2 1/2 years ago I began my Linux 
journey. I chose Ubuntu because I figured it had the largest user base, 
and therefore if I had a problem somebody else also probably had the 
same problem. I don't have time to play with the different flavors of 
Linux to give them a try, so as long as Ubuntu does the job, I will 
stick with it. With Open Office having a full suite for Window and 
Linux, it made the move to Ubuntu almost painless for the OpenOffice 
programs including Base. I do not know if it is best for Base to stay 
with LibreOffice or not, but it was a tremendous help to me to have 
everything all together.


Don

On 07/30/2011 08:49 PM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
What I like about this idea is that it frees it up to be picked up by 
anyone who wants to take it and run with it, and THAT just might work.


I do fear for what it might do with people who need an integrated 
solution.


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On 07/30/2011 06:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

It might be time to cut Base loose.  Most versions of MS Office don't 
include
Access.  Gnome Office doesn't have a database program.  Perhaps 
Office Suites
just don't need an integrated program to do this sort of stuff.  
Maybe Calc is
enough.  There are a few alternatives on the market for people that 
really need
a database.  To move forwards Base needs a serious commitment and a 
strong
vision of where it wants to get to.  If we cut it loose then 
LibreOffice as a
whole is freed from a lot of dependencies and stuff that the other 
apps don't

need.  So, lets just drop Base.


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 29 July, 2011 9:41:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Am 29.07.2011 03:22, NoOp wrote:


Hit F4 in Writer or Calc, right-clickOpen the dBase Bibliography.
All the functionality of a flat (unrelational) dBase connection is
there. You can connect, query, edit data through forms and dump any 
row

set into office documents.



http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/
quote
For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required.
Java is notably required for Base.
/quote




As a matter of fact you can disable/remove Java, hit F4 ... connect,
query, edit and dump.
If I would convert our Java databases and remove Java from our systems
nobody would notice the change.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with java x.x.24

2011-03-23 Thread Don Myers
Java 1.6.0_24 is still not upgraded, and from a practical standpoint 
makes base horrendously sluggish. One would think if Oracle owns Java 
and Oracle owns OpenOffice they should be able to get this fixed. 
LibreOffice 3.3.2 did not improve the situation.


On 03/23/2011 06:19 AM, James Wilde wrote:

There was a post in here recently about the latest java update, version 
1.6.0_24, causing problems with Base.  I'm getting a lot of encouragement from 
both my Macs to upgrade to this version, which I'm resisting hard, but I just 
wanted to know whether anyone knows whether the problem is fixed, either in 
Base or in Java.

The problem is described in this thread:

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problem-with-Base-in-3-3-1-tt2576579.html#none

TIA

//James


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check

2011-02-27 Thread Don Myers
I've installed LibreOffice on 5 machines running Ubuntu 10.10 using the 
official download from the LibreOffice site. I extracted the download, 
and the used the terminal to remove OpenOffice and to do the LibreOffice 
install. Spell checker has worked perfectly on all 5 systems. On several 
installs removing open office broke the spell checker in Thunderbird. A 
simple remove and reinstall of Thunderbird fixed that.


On 02/27/2011 06:47 AM, Richard Hainsworth wrote:

I cant get the spell check to work.

I am using Ubuntu 10.10. Added repositories for ppa. Purged 
openoffice. Then installed libreoffice and gnome additions. Then 
installed en-gb help and language modules.


No spell checking at all. Not US not GB.

What to do?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Base in 3.3.1

2011-02-27 Thread Don Myers

No problem. I just tried them by copying and pasting. I'll try again.

On 02/27/2011 10:16 AM, csc...@gmail.com wrote:

Don,

In the paths that are failing, all letters should be in lower case, in 
particular, Maverick and Main.  Sources.gz and Packages.gz are 
correct.  So when you added the sources, you probably typed Maverick 
and Main as I had shown you.  That is my mistake.  Delete the two 
sources and re-enter using lower case for maverick and main.  Of 
course, Sources.gz and Packages.gz are not part of the entries.  That 
part is obtained from deb and deb-src.  Sorry for the confusion.


On 02/26/2011 09:41 PM, Tractor wrote:
I gave this a try at home tonight. First I removed all Java (Iced Tea 
and

Sun). From the Software sources in the update manager, I added the two
lines:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu
Maverick Main
deb-src 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu

Maverick Main
I unchecked third party sources.
When I ran update, I got the following:
Failed to fetch
http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu/dists/Maverick/Main/source/Sources.gz 


404  Not Found
Failed to fetch
http://ppa.launchpad.net/sun-java-community-team/sun-java6/ubuntu/dists/Maverick/Main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 


404  Not Found
Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones
used instead.






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