Re: [libreoffice-users] question

2012-03-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 03/25/2012 05:03 AM, Łukasz Janik wrote:

W dniu 2012-03-25 10:24, Johnny Rosenberg pisze:

Den 25 mars 2012 10:02 skrev Łukasz Janikljani...@wp.pl:
and, finally, will improve the Java 3.5.x libreoffice 7 to be 
compatible

I'm sorry, I don't quite follow you. Seems that most of your text is
missing, doesn't it?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

czy wreszcie poprawicie libreoffice 3.5.x pod javę 7, żeby był 
kompatybilny


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I can not finish installing the extension office for libre. at the end 
of the installation the message Could not create Java Implementation 
Loader. in all extensions. I java 7th. and in Java 6 works well.




You are still not clear on what you are trying to do.

Which version of LibreOffice are you trying to install?  Which operating 
system?

LO 3.4.6?  LO 3.5.1?  or a different version?
Windows XP?  Vista? Win7?
32-bit or 64-bit?

We need to know these things to try to help you better.

Are you installing LibreOffice on Windows, or you have it installed and 
you are trying to install an extension to LibreOffice [like installing 
Writer's Tools or Pagination].


As far as I know, Java 6 works well and needs to be installed before you 
install LibreOffice.


Also, many people seem to have trouble if they have Java 7 installed.

If you are trying to install the LibreOffice package, please remove Java 
7 and reinstall Java 6 so it will be the default one.  Then LibreOffice 
should have no problems installing.


Then you should also be able to install any extension after you make 
sure LibreOffice shows your version of Java in its proper place.  That 
place is Tools / Options / Java.  Also make sure the check mark is in 
the box for Use a Java runtime environment


My system shows a black dot next to Java version 1.6.0_26, which is Java 
6 update 26.  IT also shows version 1.6.0_20, but that black dot is not 
showing it as the version I will be using.


.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels

2012-03-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 03/24/2012 12:58 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 12:42 -0400, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

The Labels formatting seems utterly Kaput! No resemblance between what
the formatting specifications are and what appears. I am on Windows 7
and and have LO 3.5.0rc3.

Sylvain

  The labels in what? What are you using to format them? What part of
LO are you using? With more specific information, someone might be able
to help you.

--Dan
Also, 3.5.1 did fix some of the issues with 3.5.0, so I wonder if they 
fixed that issue as well.


Are you using the New/Labels, or are you using a preformatted sheet 
design?


I tend to load up a template with the label in blocks of a sheet of 
labels.  Most larger label paper providers should either have their own 
label site so you can download the .doc sheet of labels, or will give 
you a generic Avery label reference and have you go there.


So are you using the sheet template and something is not correct, or are 
you going to the New/Labels section and getting the label design from 
there?


That is important to know who you are creating and formatting your 
labels, so we know what part of the process is going wrong.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels

2012-03-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Try the template page for the North American DVD, as well as looking at 
the Template Center that LO has.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/templates.html

http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center

In the NA-DVD page, there are a few label templates here that use with 
OOo years ago, when I used it instead of MSO.  There use to be an EXE 
file that added a special template manager to the Windows OOo, along 
with more templates, but I do not know if it ever worked with OOo 3.0.0.


When I stated about using a .doc template, that is what is easiest to 
find.  Having places, like WordLabel, having .odt templates are getting 
easier to find.  I hate sites that give you only .docx templates.  That 
is not the best type of site to use.


The thing I tend to do is save working files of label that work for the 
size/shape needs I had [back when I was doing them more].  Then I would 
just edit the labels to the new design.


Having the option to do the New/Label is good, but you really need to 
know pretty EXACT dimensions for the margins of the paper, as well as 
the label size.  THEN, you have to worry about your printer's print 
margins.  I have 3 working printers within arm's reach and I would not 
like to try to create all my needed labels with the New/Labels option.  
Actually, I tend to stick with Avery templates, if I can get then.


To be honest, if you go and do a search for purchasing labels for your 
size, the package for those labels generally keep an up-to-date idea 
where you can get a template for your label or paper type.   I have some 
tent cards that have preprinted backgrounds and the company has 
specific templates for each and every paper style and decoration.  
Finding a site that has your specific label paper needs should also have 
where to get the needed template for those labels.


To be honest, if you can search on a company's specific label sheet 
number, it would be easier.  Every one of my packages of labels have a 
compare to Avery reference number.  So it is easy to search Google for 
sites that might have templates for these labels, other than Avery 
itself.  If the label sheets are still in production, then there should 
be a ready made template for it.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/templates.html
On 03/24/2012 05:19 PM, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

Could you say a little more. Where do I find such templates?

Sylvain

-Original Message- From: Don C. Myers
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 4:10 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels

Hi Sylvain,

None of that is necessary with the table style templates.

Don

On 03/24/2012 03:37 PM, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:
I am using File then New then Labels. I then requested instructions 
on width, columns, rows etc. but the output when I click on new 
document does not fit the instructions.


Sylvain

-Original Message- From: Dan Lewis
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:58 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Labels

On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 12:42 -0400, Sylvain Bromberber wrote:

The Labels formatting seems utterly Kaput! No resemblance between what
the formatting specifications are and what appears. I am on Windows 7
and and have LO 3.5.0rc3.

Sylvain


The labels in what? What are you using to format them? What part of
LO are you using? With more specific information, someone might be able
to help you.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.5.1

2012-03-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I downloaded it, all of the install version, Windows/Linux/MacOSX for my 
work to start building a 3.5.x version for the North American Community 
DVD.  I have a 3.4.5 version, so it was time I started working on 
3.5.x.  Then when 3.4.6 comes out, I will need to do the same for it to 
create the final version of the DVD for the 3.4.x line.


I run Ubuntu 10.04 GNOME, and cannot get 11.10 to work the way I 
want/need for me to upgrade to that one.


Will need to test 3.5.1 on one of my laptops to see how well it works 
for Windows.  Later, I will go to the 3.5.x line, but not this month.  
Too much to do and I do not need any surprises with LO to stop my work.  
It would be just my luck to have some issues when I need to keep LO 
running smoothly.



On 03/16/2012 09:42 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote:

On 17 March 2012 01:02, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

Hi,

I just installed 3.5.1 today on Ubuntu 11.10. I had been using 3.4.5. The
language is US English. So far it has work fine in writer and calc. I
haven't tried anything else yet. The auto spell checker is working
perfectly. I have a list of recent files.

Thanks Don, thats good to know, I'll download it then and install it.

Sharon.

Don


On 03/16/2012 08:49 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote:

I see that LO 3.5.1 is out now. Can anyone confirm please if these
showstoppers have been fixed? and it is shwoing recent files on my system

[a] autospellcheck not working, and
[b] lack of recent history files.

I am reluctant to upgrade until I know that these showstoppers have been
fixed.

Thank you
Sharon.


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Re: [libreoffice-users]

2012-03-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I use to run MSO with OOo/LO without any troubles.

I would tell you that you might want to try LibreOffice for many months 
before you even think about removing MSO.


I have been running LibreOffice for over a year now, so you should like 
it.  My last MSO was 2003.  I run LibreOffice 3.4.5 at this time on Win 
XP and Vista laptops, and have installed it on Win 7.  My default system 
[typing this from] is an Ubuntu desktop so I could not use MSO, unless I 
installed it via the WINE package.


On 03/15/2012 02:59 PM, Jonathon Waterman wrote:

I can't say for sure about Office 2010. But, I have run Libreoffice and Office 
2007 concurrently without any problems multiple times.

Dougdoug.to...@westnet.com.au  wrote:


Hi my name is Doug. i was interested in downloading and running LibreOffice.
I currently have ms office home and student 2010 installed. My question is
can i run both programs on my computer at the same time with-out
encountering any major problems.
Many thanks in anticipation, Doug.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: standard.dic?

2012-03-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I could use a macro like that sometimes.  I did not pick up the link to 
it though.


Try your luck building a 638,000 word file for a .oxt dictionary?  I am 
now using Python programs/scripts to merge small lists to the large ones.


Go to this link
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english
All the English dictionaries beginning with kpp are ones I built for 
LO. and are also listed in LO's Extension Center.

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center

Though, to be honest, my list has more dictionaries.  I do not need the 
original authors to ask it to be on my list.  I tried to find every 
dictionary I could, and build a larger English set than I could find 
elsewhere.  With mine, you download which size of word list you want to 
use, or install all of them and enable/disable them as you see fit.

.
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center
On 03/15/2012 09:13 PM, john.egger wrote:

Success! I used the first macro mentioned by Manfred
(ImportExportDictionary1-1.sxw). It pulled in about 1,025 words.

One little puzzle: It doesn't like one of my words (depacked). This word
is clearly in the standard.dic but typed in a document it is redlined as
misspelled. If I add the misspelled depacked to standard.dic everything
is fine... but looking at the .dic shows two apparently identical depacked
one right after the other!  Just a curiosity, no big deal. Maybe there's
some difference that I can't see.

Thanks for your help, krackedpress and Manfred. I'm marking this one as
solved.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] standard.dic?

2012-03-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Try this,
use a text editor, like Kate [KDE] or some other one that is only a text 
editor.


If it is read as a one word per line, then save it as a .txt file - 
maybe Text [encoded] .txt file.


That should make sure the file keeps a single word per line file.  Then 
just rename it back to a .dic file.


There are files that use other characters or combinations of ASCII 
characters instead of the carriage return and line feed combination 
used in most standard text files we use today.


I once wrote a utility to read a file character by character and 
inserted the return characters when the read in character was not a 
letter, number, or punctuation.  I stripped out every ASCII character 
that was not something I wanted.  I actually did something like that to 
strip a text file into its individual words to create a word list from 
that file.


If it comes down to it, there must be a non-printable ASCII character 
between the words in your list.  All you have to do is figure out a way 
to replace it for an normal return.


To be honest, I cannot find where my standard.dic file is located, or 
should be located, on my Ubuntu system.  A search of the drive does not 
find it.




On 03/14/2012 04:04 PM, john.egger wrote:

When I copied the ~10 Kbyte standard.dic from my old StarOffice8 into
OpenOffice3.2, it worked fine. Examination of the dictionary
(Tools/Options/Language Settings/Writing Aids, select Standard and choose
Edit) shows each word on its own line. When I copied it into LibreOffice,
however, words were run together: spaces between them had been omitted. Of
course with this flawed dictionary cannot work.

Has anyone else run into this, and how does one fix it? Is there a better
way to import a detailed, carefully built standard.dic from OOo or
StarOffice into LibreOffice?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: standard.dic?

2012-03-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions



I use to have a software that could do a find/replace for non-printable 
characters.


I turned on the non-printable characters and copied the characters I 
wanted into the replace and took the gray box style of character.  
Then I did a global find/replace for the document.


I have not done this for many years, but it was needed for some 
documents that needed edited and I did not have the proper word 
processor for the job.


I get a lot of these boxes when I go/from email and LO text.



On 03/14/2012 06:44 PM, john.egger wrote:

You're right, kracked... in Kate there are rectangular boxes (taller than
their width) between the run-together words. But I can't figure out how to
replace them with carriage returns.

I got the old dictionary to open without the boxes, but with just spaces
between the words (not returns). I hoped maybe LibreOffice would accept that
but it still is showing everything run together.

Thanks for your comments, and I'm sure you're on the right track... but this
shouldn't be necessary!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Grammar checking, slightly different

2012-03-13 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

If I remember correctly, After the Deadline uses an external service
to handle the grammar information for the language you are using. I
wonder if this error is telling you that the online portion of the
system is not working. Also, I believe that this grammar system was
still in beta, the last time I looked at it in the Extension Center.

Maybe if you go online and do some configuring, you might get it to
work. At least you can contact the creators and find out what the error
actually means.

{quote}
After the Deadline relies on large language models to check your
writing. Because of this, it must communicate with a software
service. A default SSL-enabled server, hosted by Automattic, is
configured for you. The exact software and models hosted by
Automattic are available under the GPL from
http://open.afterthedeadline.com. It's easy to configure the
software service end point of your choosing from this extension's
options dialog.
{unquote}


On 03/13/2012 07:19 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
 A while ago I installed After the Deadline on two machines running Win
 XP, LibreOffice 3.4.4
 EVERY time I start LO, I get the following error message:

 Could not connect to AtD service.
 Host:https://en.service.afterthedeadline.com/
 Reason: Method failed HTTP/1.1 503
 Service Temporarily Unavailable
 The grammar checker will not be available.


 Can that be fixed somehow, or do I better disable this function altogether?

 Thank you.
 Thomas



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't install LibreOffice

2012-03-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


3.5.0 is the cutting edge version of LO.
I would try 3.4.5, since that is the most stable and is the 
business/enterprise ready version.


I had little issues installing 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 on XP, Vista, or Win 7 
systems.  I run 3.4.5 on Ubuntu as my default system.


So it might be best to go with 3.4.5 instead of 3.5.0 for the time being.

On 03/12/2012 12:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Have you been able to try the 3.4.5 instead?
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86lang=pt-BRversion=3.4.5
The 3.5.0 seems to be causing trouble for other people too but the 3.4.5 should 
be fine.

Did you have any type of Office Suite on the machine before?  Please let us know which one. 
Good luck and regards from

Tom :)


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From: mandersonmpanderso...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't install LibreOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 12 March, 2012, 12:48

I am experiencing an identical problem. This is a first-time install for any
version of LO, and nobody here has ever used OpenOffice.

- Duplication of Frank Bonar's bug

LO3.5 installs without any problems on my home mchine. I am trying to install 
LO3.5 on my work machine.

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP3 at work.

Messages will be translated from Brazilian Portuguese to English.

I get to the Installing LibreOffice 3.5 windows with the white status bar and click 
Next.

I then get a dialog saying: Please exit LibreOffice 3.5 and the LibreOffice 
Quickstarter before you continue. If you are using a mutli-user system, make certain that 
there are no other users with LibreOffice 3.5 open.

I click OK and the program exits.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Silent install of LibreOffice 3.5

2012-03-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


3.5.0 is not business ready.

3.4.5 is.

I would wait till 3.5.x goes to 3.5.2 or 3.5.3.  Then that line will be 
ready to be used by a business environment.


As a personal user, with many clients that I keep updated with LO, I 
have not installed 3.5.0 on my system yet, or anyone else's one.  I am 
currently getting them to update/upgrade to 3.4.5.  Some are still using 
3.3.4, while others are using 3.4.3 or 3.4.4.  I did not give out too 
many 3.4.1 or 3.4.2 versions.


I also hand out full DVDs of LO and its documentation, plus other LO 
stuff.  I do not think I will make a 3.5.x version till 3.5.2.  I want 
my DVDs to have business ready versions in them.

.

On 03/09/2012 05:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Have you tested the 3.5.0 on one machine?  Quite a few people have reported problems with it as it's the first one in a new branch.  The 3.5.1 will be a  lot better.  Like having the first service pack.  it's worth testing the 3.5.1 beta pre-release.  Personally i think i would stick with the 3.4.5 if you have to roll out sooner than next month. 


Errr, getting back to your question this link might be useful regardless of 
which version you settle on
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Corporate_Users
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Thane Sherringtonth...@computerconnectionltd.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Silent install of LibreOffice 3.5
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 9 March, 2012, 10:19

Hi all,
 I'm rolling out LibreOffice 3.5 to a bunch of computers that have Open 
Office (various flavours) on them.  How do I do a silent install of 3.5 with 
just English (Canadian, US) and Canadian French?

Thanks,

T



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: This is how I got LibreO installed and working

2012-03-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I do not know if the Windows versions of LO still hang up till you 
install a Java Runtime, but it use to.  I just automatically install the 
runtime now for a new system.  It may have changed, but I do not know if 
it has.


The developers are working hard to remove the need for Java with LO.  
They are converting Java coding to Python.  BUT, many of the popular 
extension may be written in Java, so there will still be a need to use 
it, even though the core package does not need it to run.



On 03/09/2012 08:49 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 09.03.2012 13:40, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:


4  the Java/JRE is said to be a must for both OO and LO;


This is a rumor. Both suites run fine without any Java. You can check 
it out when you disable the use of Java components in the Office 
options. It is rather unlikely that the avarage user will miss anything.


_On a Linux system_ you can install as many OOo/LibO suites as you 
like. I never uninstall anything before upgrading. If any of the 
office suites shows unspecific weird behaviour it is always some 
broken setting or incompatible extension in the profile folder which 
is not affected by any installation routine.
It is possible to run an office suite from extracted package files 
only without any installation routines. This way minor releases (3.4.x 
and 3.4.y) can be used on the same machine.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Silent install of LibreOffice 3.5

2012-03-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Yes, but Silent Install seems to mean Business Install.

YES
we need to have people install the most cutting edge versions and give 
bug reports, BUT these versions are not to be deployed in any business 
environment or home-office one.


I am dealing with documents that need to given to business and 
not-for-profit organizations, so I am not going to tell these people to 
try 3.5.0.  They can stick with 3.4.4 or 3.4.5 till 3.5.x gets ready for 
their usage needs.


I may test 3.5.1 out on a Windows laptop, when it comes out, but not my 
main system, yet.


As I said, business users need to stick with the versions of LO that are 
not the cutting edge type.



On 03/09/2012 09:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
We do need to encourage people to test-drive the 3.5.1 and to post bug-reports 
when they find problems.  If no-one tries it then bugs wont be found, right?  
Well, not as many as would be found if it's widely tested out there in the wild.

Actually i am increasingly optimistic about the 3.5.1.  It seems a lot of work 
has gone in to sorting out regressions and other issues.
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Fri, 9/3/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Silent install of LibreOffice 3.5
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 9 March, 2012, 14:24


3.5.0 is not business ready.

3.4.5 is.

I would wait till 3.5.x goes to 3.5.2 or 3.5.3.  Then that line will be
ready to be used by a business environment.

As a personal user, with many clients that I keep updated with LO, I
have not installed 3.5.0 on my system yet, or anyone else's one.  I am
currently getting them to update/upgrade to 3.4.5.  Some are still using
3.3.4, while others are using 3.4.3 or 3.4.4.  I did not give out too
many 3.4.1 or 3.4.2 versions.

I also hand out full DVDs of LO and its documentation, plus other LO
stuff.  I do not think I will make a 3.5.x version till 3.5.2.  I want
my DVDs to have business ready versions in them.
.

On 03/09/2012 05:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Have you tested the 3.5.0 on one machine?  Quite a few people have reported 
problems with it as it's the first one in a new branch.  The 3.5.1 will be a  
lot better.  Like having the first service pack.  it's worth testing the 3.5.1 
beta pre-release.  Personally i think i would stick with the 3.4.5 if you have 
to roll out sooner than next month.

Errr, getting back to your question this link might be useful regardless of 
which version you settle on
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#Corporate_Users
Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Thane Sherringtonth...@computerconnectionltd.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Silent install of LibreOffice 3.5
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 9 March, 2012, 10:19

Hi all,
   I'm rolling out LibreOffice 3.5 to a bunch of computers that have Open 
Office (various flavours) on them.  How do I do a silent install of 3.5 with 
just English (Canadian, US) and Canadian French?

Thanks,

T



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document

2012-03-08 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I can place LO on machines that can barely use MSO 95/97.  As long as it 
can run Win XP or Ubuntu 10.04, it can run LO.


For me, I always keep a auto save every 5 or 10 minutes.  For some 
users, the make a backup copy  of the original file before you edit it 
is the only way to go, with the auto saving option enable of course.  
The only time I had a problem with the restore on reboot of LO was 
when I removed the offending file from my system.


The real issue is that if you have a large document, then you have to 
decide if it is worth any slowness with the auto backup and auto 
saving enabled.  For simple things, maybe not, but for business 
documents and documents that take more than a few minutes to type you 
should enable them.



On 03/08/2012 09:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think the default setting avoids taking back-ups as it can be time-consuming and irritating to people on slower machines.  One advantage of LibreOffice/OpenOffice is that it tends to work well on machines that are so slow that  MS Office would keep falling over. 


To switch it on the back-ups option try

Tools - Options - +Load/Save - Always create a back-up copy

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 5/3/12, Walther Koehlerw.koeh...@onlinemed.de  wrote:

From: Walther Koehlerw.koeh...@onlinemed.de
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 5 March, 2012, 8:44

Hello,

after a crash LO3.4 writer recovers documents, however it seems not to use the 
regularly saved corrections.


However, looking up /tmp/.../0.odt I can find the very last corrections stored 
and can manually recover from there.


Is this a flaw or a bad configuration at my system?

Walther




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[libreoffice-users] were it the restore info in the .libreoffice folder

2012-03-06 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Does anyone know where the restore file information is located in the 
.libreoffice folder [Ubuntu]?


I went back to my backup copy to fix a nagging Restore file error, since 
the file it is trying to restore a file that is no longer on my system.


But it would be nice to find the sub-folder/file where that information 
is located so it can be edited out instead of going back to a backup 
copy of a month or two old.




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[libreoffice-users] Fwd: Writing Aids problem

2012-03-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Can anyone help this person off-the-list?

I was sent this question to my LO NA-DVD webmaster email.

 Original Message 
Subject:Writing Aids problem
Date:   Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:34:03 +0100
From:   Marcus S. mar...@ruebemix.de
To: webmas...@libreoffice-na.us



Hello,

I have a problem with the english WritingAids in LibreOffice. I added 
two different packages, but i cant use them in LibreOffice ?
I can see in the Extention Manager that the extentions were installed, 
but i cat choose them in the WritingAids setting.


Can you help me with this problem?

MfG, Marcus

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Writing Aids problem

2012-03-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Well, it would be nice if someone could come up with a solution to send 
to this person who sent the question to me instead to the proper place - 
here or Nabble.


I do not know which Writing Aids is being asked about.  I do not 
remember which are included with the installs, or is the aids being 
Writer's Tools, Writer's Extras, Linquist, and the others that are 
part of the list of Extensions listed on the NA-DVD extension page?


All these writing aids seem to work for me.  But I use Ubuntu and I bet 
the person is using Windows.  At least if they are asking the question, 
then they must be using either 3.4.4 or 3.4.5, since I have not created 
a 3.5.0 set of pages yet.


On 03/05/2012 06:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Does anyone know if re-naming the User Profile would help?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

It would get all the setting back to factory defaults but is that likely to 
create other problems for a screen-reader?

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Writing Aids problem
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 5 March, 2012, 20:32


Can anyone help this person off-the-list?

I was sent this question to my LO NA-DVD webmaster email.

 Original Message 
Subject: Writing Aids problem
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 20:34:03 +0100
From: Marcus S.mar...@ruebemix.de
To:webmas...@libreoffice-na.us



Hello,

I have a problem with the English WritingAids in LibreOffice. I added two 
different packages, but i cant use them in LibreOffice ?
I can see in the Extention Manager that the extensions were installed, but i 
cat choose them in the WritingAids setting.

Can you help me with this problem?

MfG, Marcus





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Specialized dictionary

2012-03-02 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I wonder how many of the mineral type of words are in my largest 
dictionary[s]?  It[they] has[have] over 638,000 words in it.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english
My dictionaries start with kpp in this list of English dictionaries.

Well, if I had a typed source of all of the needed words, in a list or a 
document that can be converted to a list, then it is easy to add them to 
an existing dictionary or create one specifically for it.


I would not trust me typing skills to type up a list of minerals from a 
printed source.  So, having a text document for the computer to 
convert to a list of words is not hard.  BUT if the words are to go in a 
spelling list, then they must be spelled correctly.


If I had a trusted source for the words, I would add them to a 
specialized list for science related words.




On 03/02/2012 01:13 AM, Libre User wrote:
Thank you.  It doesn't have all the minerals but it does cut down on 
the number of terms marked misspelled.  And that dictionary will be 
useful for other projects.


Jerry

At 09:22 AM 2/29/2012, you wrote:

On 02/28/2012 12:38 PM, Libre User wrote:

I have a project to make display labels for a mineral museum.

Does anyone know of a source for a specialized dictionary of mineral 
and chemical names that can be used with LO?


Jerry


Minerals?  Well, maybe in the larger ones, but English Chemistry - 
try this one.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Chemistry_Dictionary__technical_chemistry_words--ChemDictOOo2011-01-07.oxt 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Specialized dictionary

2012-02-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/28/2012 12:38 PM, Libre User wrote:

I have a project to make display labels for a mineral museum.

Does anyone know of a source for a specialized dictionary of mineral 
and chemical names that can be used with LO?


Jerry 


Minerals?  Well, maybe in the larger ones, but English Chemistry - try 
this one.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Chemistry_Dictionary__technical_chemistry_words--ChemDictOOo2011-01-07.oxt

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.5

2012-02-27 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/27/2012 12:59 PM, MoolsM wrote:

I'm currently running Windows Vista.

I've had no problems with previous versions of LibreOffice(L.O.) and 
so I installed L.O. 3.5


The installer says that I've successfully installed L.O. 3.5.

When I click on the icon I get some startup details and then a windows 
message saying L.O has stopped working.


Tried a few cycles of un-install and reinstall but keep getting the 
same problem.


Any thoughts?



I hate Vista.  I had to reinstall 3.4.5 twice to get it working on my 
Vista Laptop.  Vista is a bad OS, compared to XP and Win7.  One thing 
you need to do is reboot between uninstall and the next install.  Also, 
I would make sure the program data folder for LO is removed after the 
uninstall.  There may be things that are left in that type of folder 
that could be the issue.  Also, make sure your downloaded version was 
completely downloaded.  Sometimes people have their downloads 
unfinished from one of our mirrors [which the download system choose 
for you].


For now, I would stick with 3.4.5.  If you can.

3.5.0 is the cutting edge version or some people call it bleeding 
edge when these type of errors happen.


To be honest, unless you need any feature that is new with 3.5.0, I 
would stick with 3.4.5 for a bit longer.  It is always nice to see what 
the newest version is all about, so to speak, but if you want to use LO 
without any issues, stick with the previous version when the newest one 
ends with .0 or .1.  These are not for the people who need it for 
day-to-day, business, or enterprise, applications.


I have been using LO since the first month it was out.  I am sticking 
with 3.4.5 till 3.5.x gets to .1 or .2, at least, since I use it for 
home-office work.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] L.O. 3.5

2012-02-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/25/2012 02:38 AM, man_without_clue wrote:

On 02/25/2012 01:09 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 13:03 +0900, man_without_clue wrote:

Is LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3 same as final official release?

I just downloaded and installed on my Debian but the version says 
rc3.

  This has been confusing to me in the past as well, but the answer
is yes. Three release candidates were created. The third one (RC3) was
then released as 3.5.0. I have hear talk of making changes in the
numbering system to make all of this clearer.

--Dan




Ok, thanks Dan.
Yeah, it is confusing. I thought they just didn't care about Linux.

m.w.c.
To be honest, I once heard the figure of 87% of Linux users use 
LibreOffice as their office package.  So yes we care about Linux users.


I am a Linux users, for the most part, and the people here do their best 
to make use Linux users happy.  The big push is to get more Windows 
users.  We want them to feel LO is better for them that paying for MSO.


I really wonder how many of our developers are actually Linux users 
first [their default system] and Windows users second, like myself.


I think the issue of the final release having the RC label sometimes is 
due to the timing.  We have a strict release schedule and there are a 
lot of different install files from the package itself to the help and 
language packs.  That is a lot of files to change their names in one batch.


Yes it would be better if the RC2 or RC3 was removed from the internal 
file names of each part of the Linux install.  Does it affect the way 
the package works?  No.


Actually sometimes Linux is more confusing that Windows in the ways its 
packages are installed, over the way Windows does it.  We pay the price 
of having a safer, less crashing, and free OS.  But it is worth it most 
days.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to intsall without CUPS?

2012-02-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/24/2012 03:41 AM, ra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi!

Is it possible to build/install Libreoffice on a Linux system without
CUPS?. I would like to use the office suit but don't like to have that
awesome CUPS stuff on my machine. Formerly OpenOffice did not require
CUPS. Why is it now required as a hard dependency? Why can't print jobs
just be written to a file and or send to a configurable helper
program/script?

Not everybody likes to blow up his system installation with many unused
modules/programs.

I'm not subscribed to the list, so please add me to CC.

--
Harald



May I ask where you got the information you needed CUPS for LibreOffice 
[on Linux] to work?


I have been using LibreOffice on Linux since it came out and this is the 
first time I heard that statement.


I use Ubuntu 10.04LTS.

I wanted the PDF printer for my system, so I installed CUPS-PDF.  I did 
not do it for LO.  I wanted to be able to print to a PDF file for my 
browser and my email package.  There is an issue with export to PDF 
that involves specialized fonts not exporting correctly, but normal 
fonts seems to work fine.  So I use CUPS-PDF printer to print out these 
documents with specialized fonts and such that LO does not do properly.  
I am told that issue is being worked on.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] OT- too many emails- how do I stop them?

2012-02-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


On 02/24/2012 11:14 AM, . wrote:

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I get  too many emails from LibreOffice.

Is there a way to modify some sort of mail settings so that I only get
replies to my queries?



Remove yourself from the lists and get set up with Nabble.

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Nabble has the info on these lists, but in a browser based format, so no 
emails.


To be honest, you might want to use a different option in the 
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/; page.  The email lists seem not 
to be what you needed.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Training

2012-02-23 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/22/2012 01:13 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:

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On 12-02-21 02:16 PM, Deon Barnard wrote:

I have just loaded LibreOffice and would like to know if there are any
training offered, downloads,etc. especially in Calc.

Thank you kindly

Deon Barnard


Hi Deon,

I'd encourage you to search on the web for OpenOffice.org training and
contact whoever provides such training clearly indicating your goals,
budget (or lack thereof) and timelines. If someone already offers free
or paid training for OOo, there are high chances they will consider
adapting their material or using the existing material from LibreOffice
to help you.

I had a good experience in the pas with Solveig Haugland -
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2008/01/contact-me-for-consulting-time.html.
You can also try Lanedo in Germany http://www.lanedo.com/libreoffice.html

Cheers,

Fabián Rodríguez
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab


I know there are training, free training, sited for LibreOffice out 
there.  I remember seeing one or two a few months ago.  After LO became 
the office package for Linux distros, I started to see links that were 
LO training.


If we tell people to use OOo training for LO, would the just encourage 
the users to try OOo and use it?


By going to Google, I found a few sites that offer training in/with 
LibreOffice.  Yes OOo training has more links, but it has been around 
for a longer time.  Last year there were posts about training offerings 
for LO.


SO if a person wants LO training, give that person references to LO 
training, not OOo.  Offer that person the links to our Guides and other 
documentation.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice NA-DVD ver. 3.4.5 ISO file is now online

2012-02-23 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Well, I just updated the http://libreoffice-na.us/  page with the link 
to the new 3.4.5 DVD and with a photo of the new look for the DVD and a 
link to the original 2500 pixel, 1.4 MB, label I used to print the label 
onto the media with my media printer.


I figured that a photo of the label would be better than a small version 
of the label, like shown for the previous label.


If anyone wants the label background, without the text, let me know off 
the lists and I will email it to them.


I hope that one of these days the 3.4.5 DVD will be on the list with the 
German version, like my 3.4.4 is on that list.  The allplatforms_ de 
DVD lists it is all platforms.  NA-DVD is as well, with the WLM in 
its file name.  Win would be the Windows-only version, which I have to 
make one of these days, soon maybe.


Yes, I agree with you, any North American conference, like the upcoming 
Biennial Conference in North America for LibreOffice.org on the 
marketing list and the LinuxFest in April would be two places for the 
NA-DVD to show up at.  3.4.6 and 3.5.1 are slated for a March release 
and 3.5.2 the first week of April.  I thought I saw that 3.4.5 was going 
to be the last of the 3.4.x line.  Well, I could make a 3.4.6 version of 
the DVD by the LinuxFest, but I do not think we would want the 3.5.x 
line at the Fests since it is still in the curring edge stages.  
3.4.5 or 3.4.6 would be better.


The new label design is looking more like what the new design trend for 
labels and other stuff that is shown on the 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Existing_Designs#Disc_Label  page.  I 
saw the 3.5 German label and decided to do something similar in 
look/feel.  The new darker green colors look better somehow than the 
light green versions.


So for anyone who would like to try the North American Community DVD for 
3.4.5 with about 4 gig of installs and other things, feel free to 
download it and try it.


Next will be looking at the extras and other non-installs on the DVD to 
see what can be found that are newer versions, or some items that can be 
included that I do not have already.  I do have my 4 American English, 4 
British English, and 3 Canadian English spell checking 
dictionary/thesaurus files listed with the over 180 other dictionaries.


.
On 02/23/2012 12:27 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Good work chap :)  It is looking great for any conferences or other distribution in the deep mid-west or anywhere really. 
Many regards from

Tom :)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] ot:Artha

2012-02-23 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/23/2012 04:29 PM, Doug wrote:
I find Artha is very useful as a dictionary and thesaurus.  However, I 
believe it has a very noticeable, annoying, but not
hurtful, bug. I tried very hard to sign up for their bug reporting 
service, but gave up.  Perhaps someone who is already
signed up will log in and tell them that the expression Very rare is 
GROSSLY overused!  Thanx.  --doug




Artha for Windows or Linux?  I have it on Linux desktop, but used it 
once or twice.  I have the Windows version but never used it on my Vista 
or XP laptops.


My English dictionaries have a thesaurus with about 140,000 word and 
phrases that can be looked up.  They do not have a definition listed for 
the words in the spell-checking dictionary part, but the largest ones 
are over 638,000 words in the word list.


You can find them at my portal
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english

OR the LO extension site.
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Training

2012-02-22 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/21/2012 02:16 PM, Deon Barnard wrote:

I have just loaded LibreOffice and would like to know if there are any
training offered, downloads,etc. especially in Calc.

Thank you kindly

Deon Barnard



I know that this group has not official training for LibreOffice - yet.

But I know that here are online, free, courses in using LibreOffice.  I 
do not remember their URLs, but I remember seeing one or two a few 
months ago.


You do know that there are many PDF file guides and you can but a 
printer version at Lulu.com?



This link is the first place to look  for documentation.  The document 
teem is slowly writing a new updated set of documents, and the current 
version are listed on this page as well.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/

The current price for the printed version of Calc Guide, is $22.80 plus 
s/h.  That is a good price for a print-on-demand 418 page book.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't install LibreOffice on Windows 7

2012-02-22 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


No problem.
I have had failed transfers on my broadband many times.
I use Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit.  I tried 11.10 on my laptop but could not get 
everything I enjoyed with 10.xx to work on 11.xx, like adding to the top 
panel and there was no System menu on the top panel.  Also I could not 
get the themes that I downloaded with the package manager working as 
well.  So I am sticking with 10.04LTS for the time being.


On 02/21/2012 05:25 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
LibreOffice 3.5.0 for Linux 64 debs and WinXP loaded just fine and are 
not bad files.

I just had a bad download (failure during transfer).

It is good to be able to assume the file got to its destination 
unharmed, but still, things that can happen.


Sorry, I was not being clear.

Paul

On 2/21/2012 3:20 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Which LO Linux install were you going after?
3.4.5 or 3.5.0?
DEBS or RPM
32-bit or 64-bit?

If there is a bad download file out there, we need to know about it 
and get it fixed.


I run Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit with LibreOffice 3.4.5.
This is my default system, but I do have a Vista and a XP/pro laptops 
as well.



On 02/21/2012 10:00 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

I just did a recent update to Libre on linux

Turned out my download was bad.

Confirm file size with Libre website or just rename current and 
download again before trying to load.



On 2/20/2012 11:22 AM, Alex McLeod wrote:

Hope you can help.

I have tried to install LibreOffice on my Windows 7 pc but it comes 
up with

errors.(see attachment)



What's the problem?



Alex McLeod












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice - problem

2012-02-22 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I just had to deal with a .docx file this morning that was sent to me 
for editing.  I could never do what I did with the last version of OOo 
that I had.  Also, I never did get a newer version of MSO beyond 2003.


If I did not have LO, I would not be able to deal with the documents 
sent to me from different agencies I get every few weeks.  Many seem to 
believe that everyone has the same office packages as they do and send 
the .docx and other x files, when I know that some of the people they 
deal with have Office 2003 or earlier since they did not have it in 
their budgets for the newer ones.


So LO does MSO files better than OOo ever did.

On 02/22/2012 07:34 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Impress and Base need a bit of work but Writer and Calc are quite 
fantastic for this sort of thing.  Well, for the most part imo.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice - problem
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 22 February, 2012, 11:21

On 2012-02-21 4:15 PM, Gregory Forsterglf.libreoff...@gmail.com  wrote:

When reading and modifying Microsoft Power Point files  OpenOffice.org
did a considerably better job than LibreOffice 3.4.5 (for business
purposes).

Disagree... I have had much better MSO format support in the later versions of 
Libreoffice than Openoffice ever provided...

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice NA-DVD ver. 3.4.5 ISO file is now online

2012-02-22 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Until the 3.4.5 DVD gets on the DVD download list for 3.4.5, here is the 
link for the ISO file that is currently on the mirrors.


http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.5/LO-3.4.5--NA-DVD--WLM--Feb-21st-2012.iso

Hopefully it will get on the main site's list for 3.4.5 version DVDs in 
the next week or so.


But this one listed as 3.8 GB in size.

3.4.5 Installs for Windows, Linux [DEBS and RPM], and Mac OSX [Intel and 
PPC]
Documentation, Dictionaries, extensions, templates, artwork and 
galleries, and other stuff.


Language/Help packs for:
English, GB-English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Brazil's 
Portuguese, and Hebrew [since I was told that the Hebrew speaking 
community resents MSO for not supporting their needs].






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't install LibreOffice on Windows 7

2012-02-21 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Which LO Linux install were you going after?
3.4.5 or 3.5.0?
DEBS or RPM
32-bit or 64-bit?

If there is a bad download file out there, we need to know about it and 
get it fixed.


I run Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit with LibreOffice 3.4.5.
This is my default system, but I do have a Vista and a XP/pro laptops as 
well.



On 02/21/2012 10:00 AM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

I just did a recent update to Libre on linux

Turned out my download was bad.

Confirm file size with Libre website or just rename current and 
download again before trying to load.



On 2/20/2012 11:22 AM, Alex McLeod wrote:

Hope you can help.

I have tried to install LibreOffice on my Windows 7 pc but it comes 
up with

errors.(see attachment)



What's the problem?



Alex McLeod







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font problem

2012-02-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


There is a difference between putting them in the folder and 
installing them.  You click on the fonts and a window opens up and 
then click on the install button.  That places the font in the .font 
folder and places references to it to all the other places needed for it 
to work properly.


Looking at those font names from the link you gave, I do have many of 
those fonts.


On 02/20/2012 04:02 AM, Roland Pastorino wrote:

Good morning,

Thanks for your kind and quick reply.
I tried to put the missing fonts in ~/.fonts but LO was not able to see
them.
Yes, the fonts are type1 fonts.

Following your suggestion about type1 fonts, I have been searching for the
equivalent fonts in truetype (especially the famous (for scientists) fonts
from ams).
Such fonts are available here
http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/CTAN/help/Catalogue/entries/bakoma-fonts.html
I put them in usr/share/fonts/truetype then sudo fc-cache -v -f and PIM
PAM (as they say here in Spain) it works now.
I can now finish my congress presentation in extremis.
I still don't understand why the type1 did not work.
Anyway, your suggestion helped me a lot.
If I see you one day, I should pay your a beer.

Many thanks. Bye.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] buying a font to use with libreoffice: OTF, TTF or PS?

2012-02-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


DO NOT BUY anything.

It is not your font, but LO.  This issue is being worked on.  The 
problem is that EXPORT to PDF does not use your font, but one it 
chooses.  Right now, if LO does not have your font in its list of PDF 
fonts, it substitute their font for yours.


On Windows systems, I use doPDF - a free program - that is a PDF 
printer.  It will create a PDF file instead a paper print.  For Linux 
systems I use CUPS-PDF.


For Windows, it does not matter if it is OTF or TTF.

So for now, download doPDF [Windows] and print your needed documents 
that way.


I use some really specialized fonts with some of my documentation.  
doPDF renders them properly.  I have been using it for my Windows 
computers for at least 4 or 5 years now.  It has never failed me yet, in 
rendering the fonts correctly.


So do not buy a new version of your font, use a PDF printer, not 
exporter.  That way, even browser pages or emails get to be saved as a 
PDF file.  I use a PDF printer as my default printer, and use it most 
often to print web page I want to save for printing on paper later 
[without printing the unwanted physical pages].  One day, the issue with 
LO will be fixed [which is a big coding job], but for now use a free PDF 
printer.


http://www.dopdf.com/


On 02/16/2012 10:25 AM, Vincent Van Houtte wrote:

Hello,

I'm hit by this bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42427

Short: The OTF-font that I will be using in our new 'office identity' is
not printed correctly using the default 'output to PDF'. Printing to PS
has some side effects (slower printing, bold characters are printed as
regular characters, etc.)

Before starting to use our new 'office identity', I will buy the
necessary licences to use that font and it seems I can choose to receive
the font in OTF, TTF and PS.

I would like to use the OTF-version, since (iirc) this is technically
the better choice, but I'm afraid to spend money on something that might
be troublesome for a while to come (our office uses debian stable with
backports, so a libreoffice version where this bug is squashed will not
be in our official repo's very soon...).

Should I buy the TTF (safe choice) or PS-version (I don't know much
about PS-fonts, but maybe these can be 'uploaded' to our Brother
printer?

THX for your opinion!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing LibreOffice - problem

2012-02-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I am sorry, but this list will not support attachments.

Which version of LO are you installing?

3.4.5 or 3.5.0?

I know that 3.4.5 will sometimes not install on the first try with older 
XP systems.  I end up doing a second install that kicks in a repair 
option.  Then it usually installs properly for me.  Also you must have a 
Java Runtime Engine install on your system before you install LO.


Actually, I had to do that with an old DELL desktop last week.  It had a 
Celeron CPU and it was from 2005 or 2006.  The guy had not used an 
anti-virus since Summer of 2009 and it was filled with dust bunnies 
soaked with smoking residue that made my fingers stink cleaning it.  It 
killed his DVD burner, among other thing, plus the issues of all those 
nasties that made his system home after the last anti-virus usage in 2009.


On 02/19/2012 05:53 AM, Martin Kerr wrote:

Hi LibreOffice,

I've already searched through your support and FAQs but I cannot find a
solution. I've attached a couple of screen shots which illustrate the
problem. I'm trying to install LibreOffice and cannot - the screen
shots show what's happening - LibreOffice does not install.

I do not have LibreOffice previously installed; in fact I have OpenOffice.

My OS is Windows XP SP3.

49 GB available on hard drive; 2 GB RAM, 1.6 GHz processor, Dell Inspiron
1300

Can you help me install LibreOffice?

Regards, Martin
mdfk...@gmail.com




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Non printable characters not visible

2012-02-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


ToolsOptionsLibreOffice WriterFormatting Aids
Check all of the options for viewing the character types you want to see 
on you displaying of the document.


I have 3.4.5, so it should be the same for 3.5.0.


On 02/20/2012 10:07 AM, Eric05 wrote:

With LO 3.5 writer, non printable characters like dots between words or the
lines break are not visible. Do I have to set something in the option or is
it a LO 3.5 problem?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Font problem

2012-02-19 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Are the missing fonts listed in the hidden folder .fonts?

It looks like your font is a Type1 font.  Do you have a TTF version?   I 
do not use Type1 anymore.


Are they called LMS Math Symbol? or LMS Math Extensions?  I have a 
lot of Math symbols in my very large TTF [and some Type1 and OTF] font 
collection [over 100,000   ttf / otf files].  If you give my the name of 
the font file, then I will see if I have the TTF file[s] for that font 
and give it to you.


I know that ALL of my fonts, including specialty ones, that are listed 
in the .fonts folder [/home/Timothy/.fonts] are seen in my version of 
LO on Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit.


If you want, contact me at my
webmaster  @  krackedpress.com
or my
webmaster  @  libreoffice-na.us
email address off this list and I will do my best to get you the needed 
TTF font to be installed in that .fonts folder.





On 02/19/2012 05:53 PM, Roland Pastorino wrote:

Hi,

I am having a problem with some fonts in Libreoffice 3.4.4 in ubuntu 11.10.
I have spent all the afternoon on this problem but I was not able to find
any solution.

Problem:
Some fonts (Latin Modern Math Symbols for example) installed in my system
are not available in Libreoffice.
However these fonts are available for other programs (like Scribus for
example).

Solutions I have tried:
1. I checked with a font manager that the font is installed. It is located
in /usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm
2. other fonts from this folder appear in Libreoffice but not lmmathsmbols.
The owner is root.
3. sudo fc-cache -v -f
4. Reinstallation of Libreoffice

I would appreciate if you have any suggestions.

Thanks. Bye.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Sorry Tom, but I installed the one I always use for initial Java install 
before I install LO.


As I id say, I hope to get access to the laptop soon to connect it to 
the Net and work on the problem[s].  Then I can get all of the Win7 
updates and get the utility software as well.


On 02/16/2012 08:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 17/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 0:20


Her laptop is faster than my quad.  It is a desktop replacement.

There is hardly any space used on the drive itself.  She has not had
time to place anything on it.

I wish I had a machine as fast as her laptop.

I still have to add Virus protection and other utilities as well.  LO
was the first package to be installed on the thing.  I added some video
files [less than 3 Gig total] to the laptop so she could watch them later.

So I doubt it is an issue with a too full system or one needing to be
defragged, etc., etc..  She has had it less than 1 week and I said, I
was the first one to place anything on the drive.  She does not even
have Internet yet.

On 02/16/2012 09:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then perhaps 
defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus program.  
Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the wastebin of the 
emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to suddenly drop off if the 'drive' 
is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 21% free space then that is about as good as it 
gets unless you can get it right down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when 
there seems to be another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed 
size about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about perfect.  
The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been randomly changing size and 
throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  Setting it to a fixed size stops it getting 
worse.  The standard Windows defragger can't do system-files, such as the virtual
memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then set the 
virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all the other programs 
and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just over the 80%?

On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is booted up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that off (or at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates and antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a time to suit myself.   


Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 16/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com   wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a lady.  
She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the windows came up empty 
with a not responding text in the pop up window name.

Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
software to her brand new laptop.



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[libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a 
lady.  She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.


But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon 
and the windows came up empty with a not responding text in the pop 
up window name.


Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the 
issue was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add 
more free software to her brand new laptop.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] standard.dic on dropbox

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I do not know about how LO uses the standard.dic file.
There is no current path listed for that file.

3.4.5 just asks if you would like to add the word to the standard.dic 
file, but does not show its path anywhere.


So if your computer shows this option, then you will have to look for 
[file navigator's search function] that file.


Each version of Windows seems to have these type of things in different 
places, and well as Linux and Mac.


On 02/16/2012 07:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Can you do that with

Tools - Options - Paths

I think you can set it as a networked 'drive' (file-share).  I don't know about drop-box though or any of the Cloud ideas. 
Regards from

Tom :)

--- On Thu, 16/2/12, Benoît Majerusbenoit.maje...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Benoît Majerusbenoit.maje...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] standard.dic on dropbox
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 8:40

Is there any way to specify a new location for the standard.dic file?

I would like to move the standard.dic file to my dropbox folder so that all
my custom dictionary additions will be synced for all my different
installations of LibreOffice.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english

There are dictionaries list for American/US English, British English, 
Canadian English, Australian English, Oxford English, New Zealand 
English, and South African English, on that web page.


There are 4 different British English dictionaries I created with the 
kpp in the name of the file.  There are 
spell-checking/thesaurus/hyphenation dictionaries with 98,000 words, 
217K, 390K, and 638K, words in the file's spell checking word list.  The 
thesaurus part has over 140,000 words and phrases.


So your British English is covered.

On 02/16/2012 07:33 AM, Spiff wrote:

Spiff wrote:
 Have you tried to re-install the AutoSpellcheck extension?
According to this page http://libreoffice-na.us/ I guess you should be able
to find the appropriate AutoSpellcheck extension here:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html 

sharon kimble replied:
 Thanks for the thought but its not helpful being in the UK, I dont speak
US english which is not the same as UK english.
So the problem still remains unsolved, autospellcheck does not work 


Hi Sharon,
First I didn't notice you're from the UK, so I wasn't able to advise you
what AutoSpellcheck Dictionary extension to choose and install.
Although it's a US-site, the mentioned pages also offer several(!)
dictionaries for Great Britain English.
Go to:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english
and have a look at the items that are shown for English (Great Britain).

Good luck,
and let us know if it helped.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Her laptop is faster than my quad.  It is a desktop replacement.

There is hardly any space used on the drive itself.  She has not had 
time to place anything on it.


I wish I had a machine as fast as her laptop.

I still have to add Virus protection and other utilities as well.  LO 
was the first package to be installed on the thing.  I added some video 
files [less than 3 Gig total] to the laptop so she could watch them later.


So I doubt it is an issue with a too full system or one needing to be 
defragged, etc., etc..  She has had it less than 1 week and I said, I 
was the first one to place anything on the drive.  She does not even 
have Internet yet.


On 02/16/2012 09:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then perhaps 
defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus program.  
Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the wastebin of the 
emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to suddenly drop off if the 'drive' 
is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 21% free space then that is about as good as it 
gets unless you can get it right down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when 
there seems to be another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed 
size about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about perfect.  
The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been randomly changing size and 
throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  Setting it to a fixed size stops it getting 
worse.  The standard Windows defragger can't do system-files, such as the virtual
  memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then set the 
virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all the other programs 
and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just over the 80%?

On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is booted up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that off (or at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates and antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a time to suit myself.   


Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 16/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a lady.  
She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the windows came up empty 
with a not responding text in the pop up window name.

Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
software to her brand new laptop.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Extension MSOffice

2012-02-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


My question is - do you have MS Office installed on your system?

If No, then making sure that the load/save option is checked.
If Yes, then you may have to do the editing of the file properties 
using the file-browser.


I do not have MS Office installed on any of my systems and I make sure I 
check the option for loading/saving MSO files.  I rarely have any issued 
with them either.


On 02/15/2012 06:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I'm not sure but this might help

Tools - Options - +Load/Save

The various sub-pages in there have a few options that might help. 

2.  Another way might be to right-click on 1 such document and find the Chose program or Open with.. option.  One of those should be clear about making it a 'permanent' default (except that you can use the same method to change it back another day if you wanted). 


3.  In Windows just open a file-browser so that you can see documents inside 
any folder.  In the file-browser choose
Tools - Option - Folder Options - File types
errr, something like that in Xp anyway, then scroll down the list and choose 
which ones should be opened in LibreOffice.
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Extension MSOffice
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 15 February, 2012, 9:41

On 15/02/2012 09:08, Jean Milot wrote:

Hi,

I would like if it's possible when we install LO to make all the files
like : doc, docx, ppt, xls  to be opened by LO ?

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Jean


You should be given that option during the install process.
A screen should appear that will say something like Do you want LO to
be the default program for opening MS Office documents?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to reach standard.dic

2012-02-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Which OS are you using?
Windows, Linux, Mac?   It makes a difference.

For Ubuntu, I use the Package Manager and search for libreoffice and I 
will see the dictionaries in the list.  I would search for the 
dictionary's language code at that point.


Here is a .oxt dictionary file.  If you open the file up in an archive 
manager [compressed file] you will see the dictionary parts and their 
names.  You can search for those file names as well.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Swedish-spelling-dictionary---swedish_dict_1.442010-10-07.oxt

If I remember correctly, standard.dic may be created by the user for 
the words that are spelled correctly by the user and not listed in the 
package's dictionary list of correctly spelled words.


On 02/15/2012 06:09 AM, and...@soundwell.com wrote:

Hi
When I use the Swedish dictionary that I got with Libre Office, it shows me a 
lot of totally crazy non existent words and misspellings (how do you spell that 
:-)).  I like to reach the list and delete the crap that shows. How do I do 
that?  When I search for the file standard.dic I don't see it.

best
anders

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2012-02-15 skrev Jean Milot :

Hi,

I would like to uninstall LO 3.4 to install 3.5 but it's difficult try
to find all the package to remove them.

Maybe it's possible to create a script to do it or to make it in the
last version of LO ?

Sincerely,

Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibO 3.5.0 Writer - AutoSpellcheck doesn't work for Dutch language

2012-02-15 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/15/2012 07:17 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 02:44 -0800, Spiff wrote:

Dan Lewis wrote:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html
Click this link to download the Dutch dictionary in an LO extension.

Thank you, Dan.
I downloaded and installed the Dutch spelling and hyphenation Dictionary
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Dutch_spelling_and_hyphenation_Dictionary--nl-dict-v2.00g2010-09-22.oxt

Perfect!
Now AutoSpellcheck works for Dutch language as it did before updating to
LibO 3.5.0.
Wonderful.

A few questions:

I looked for a Dutch spelling dictionary extension at
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center but there was no such
thing there.
How did you know about http://libreoffice-na.us/English/dictionary.html ?
Is it mentioned in the LibreOffice help pages or documentation?

And does anyone have any idea why/how the Dutch dictionary was lost (or
deactivated?) with the upgrade to LibO 3.5.0?

Anyhow,
I'm very happy AutoSpellcheck works for Dutch language as it did before,
now.
Thanks very much, once more.

Best regards,
Spiff

  I searched for it: libreoffice dutch dictionary (without the
quotes). Then I had to look down through the results to find a link that
includes libreoffice.

--Dan




Try this link.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Dutch_spelling_and_hyphenation_Dictionary--nl-dict-v2.00g2010-09-22.oxt

I try to have EVERY usable dictionary for LO listed on the 
LibreOffice-NA.US portal page.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html

If you know of one I do not have, let me know and I will try to include it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5

2012-02-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I just installed 3.4.5 on an older DELL with XP Home SP3 and I had 
troubles and had to do a repair reinstall to get it running properly.


With each system, there are differences.  Some will install and run with 
no issues, while others will have issues to overcome.  Of course, it did 
not help that the guy had not used his anti-virus since summer of 2009 
[according to the add/remove programs system to get rid of the old 
anti-virus package and replace it with a new/better one].


On 02/14/2012 08:18 AM, Levan Kelesidis wrote:
I use LO on Ubuntu Linux and some times on WIn. XP SP3, i never have 
any problem with crash.


Στις 02/14/2012 05:13 PM, ο/η Jay Lozier έγραψε:

Enrique,

On 02/14/2012 07:41 AM, Farmacia Felisa Hebrero wrote:
I have installed the new version 3.5 of LibreOffice in Spanish in a 
computer with Windows XP Professional and after opening any Calc 
file, I receive a message of recovery because the opening produce an 
unexpected failure.


Please, let me know your comments. Kind regards.
ENRIQUE FERNÁNDEZ
Did your previous version of LO crash or did your computer crash 
while LO was open? This message usually occurs after a crash that 
caused LO to close improperly.








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

2012-02-14 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Tom
On Windows, if you have several user accounts on one machine, EVERY time 
you install an extension with the Extension Manager, you are asked if it 
was to be used by that user or all the users that have an account on 
that machine.  I found out this yesterday when I installed LO 3.4.5 on 
an XP machine with 2 user accounts.


I think the same goes for installing LO itself on that multi-account 
Windows XP home PC.


On 02/14/2012 02:40 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Was there no option during the install process to allow all users??  I'm not sure how to get at that option and i am not even sure it really exists to be honest.  It's just what i read in a help guide that i know is out-of-date. 


I hope someone else is able to help soon!
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 14/2/12, Eduardo Maldonadoeduardo.manio...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Eduardo Maldonadoeduardo.manio...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid 
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 18:49

It has not worked.

I has installed the extension in the space for the administrator user, not
for all users.

Can anybody help me, please?

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:59, Eduardo Maldonado
eduardo.manio...@gmail.com  escribió:


That's correct, Tom.

The extension only avoid the presence of StartCenter. I do'nt need start
StartCenter, the trouble is to see it when I close all the documents I have
opened without close the application.

I need install only some program from the suite, I for me is a trouble my
users can see there exists others programs they do'nt have. I know...
strange, but, they are my requirements.

I'll tryied to install with an administrator user, but without say I work
like administrator, and it's applied only like normal user.

I'll try anothe time.

Thanks a lot.

El 14 de febrero de 2012 18:12, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.ukescribió:

Hi :)

I think the Extension manages to block the StartCentre/QuickStarter so
that people can't inadvertently switch it on and then regret it.  Seems a
pretty smart move imo.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 14/2/12, Fabian Rodriguezmagic...@member.fsf.org  wrote:

From: Fabian Rodriguezmagic...@member.fsf.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid
StartCenter?)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 14 February, 2012, 16:30


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Hi all.

First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
repited.

I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation,

for

do it accesible for all user.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12

This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.

How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user

by

user?

Thanks.


What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
to lauch the StartCenter.

Cheers,

Fabian



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected

2012-02-13 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/12/2012 08:48 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
ToolsOptionsLanguageSettingsDefault Language sets the language for 
all brand new documents. Brand new documents those documents which are 
not derived from some template.
If you use some default template for a component, you've got to open 
the template for editing (FileTemplatesEdit...) and apply the 
language setting together with option current document only.
This setting affects the font language in all text formatting 
dialogs having a Font tab.



I think right now the problem could be the use of many languages in a 
single document and getting the language option menu in the Spelling 
and Grammar icon/option to have more space for more language listings - 
is what is needed.  I added German to my dictionaries and it did not 
show up in that specific menu list.  Setting the default language for a 
specific paragraph, etc., did show German though.


Yes, having styles and templates set up for making a new document have a 
specific default language may be a good idea, but the basic user would 
not know how to do this.  I have been using LO since 3.3.0 and have not 
got into creating styles or changed my default document, or even 
created any new templates.


I thing I might have to buy a printed copy of the Writer book, if I was 
to start dealing with all the other things that Writer can do that I 
have not been doing so far.  I would rather read a printer book than 
read it on my desktop or laptop.  I do not have a tablet.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected

2012-02-13 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/13/2012 11:59 AM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 13.02.2012 15:04, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Yes, having styles and templates set up for making a new document have a
specific default language may be a good idea, but the basic user would
not know how to do this. I have been using LO since 3.3.0 and have not
got into creating styles or changed my default document, or even
created any new templates.



You are the administrator to build them templates for their job. The 
basic users must not design templates nor address data sources.


Why can't a basic user design templates?  I know a lot of basic 
users that are using LO for home or work and they might want to design 
a template document or two, like letterhead, postcard, or envelope 
templates.


I can be considered as an admin for some people, but most people I work 
with are home and home-office users.  I do not administrate their 
computers.  I just help them with their questions over the phone or via 
email.  I could setup their templates for them, but they have the time 
and some have better art skills than I  do.


Also some users I deal with use many more features for Writer than I 
normally do.  So I am a basis user for the type of work I do with 
Writer, but I am not a basic user of a computer system.




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[libreoffice-users] Fwd: spanish spell checking WORKS!

2012-02-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions



 Original Message 
Subject:spanish spell checking WORKS!
Date:   Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:14:26 -0800
From:   llusc...@sbcglobal.net
To: webmas...@krackedpress.com



It DOES work! All I had to do was open my Spanish document and click Tools 
Spell Check. I have no idea why it works now and didn't before -- maybe because 
I had only an empty doc open. Anyway, I'm a VERY happy camper -- finished my 
Spanish homework, and I know it's correct! Sorry to have bothered you, but I 
fooled around for two days trying to figure this out.

If all you have to do is have a foreign language doc open, then maybe this 
needs to be written up somewhere we mortals can find it.

Thanks for all your work, and I will contribute $$.

Lenore




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[libreoffice-users] Fwd: Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected

2012-02-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions



 Original Message 
Subject:Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected
Date:   Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:38:04 -0800
From:   llusc...@sbcglobal.net
To: webmas...@krackedpress.com



In LibreOffice 3.4. I've tried everything, read all the forums. Downloaded  the 
recommended Spanish oxt file from Extensions. Extension Manager shows it as 
installed. But when I try to set it as the dictionary for my document, the only 
place it stays checked for is Selection. I have Spanish (Mexican) set as my 
default language. When I try to establish Spanish as my SpellChecking language 
in Writing Aids, it does not stay selected. It appears in the selection box, 
then I click Close, but when I open the Writing Aids dialog again, it has 
reverted to English.

AND, the spell checker doesn't check anyway -- just asks Start at top? then 
says everything is fine. In a document full of misspellings and gibberish.

Help!

Lenore




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fwd: Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected

2012-02-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/12/2012 11:37 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 09:31 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject:Can't get Spanish distionary to stay selected
Date:   Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:38:04 -0800
From:   llusc...@sbcglobal.net
To: webmas...@krackedpress.com



In LibreOffice 3.4. I've tried everything, read all the forums.
Downloaded  the recommended Spanish oxt file from Extensions. Extension
Manager shows it as installed. But when I try to set it as the
dictionary for my document, the only place it stays checked for is
Selection. I have Spanish (Mexican) set as my default language. When I
try to establish Spanish as my SpellChecking language in Writing Aids,
it does not stay selected. It appears in the selection box, then I
click Close, but when I open the Writing Aids dialog again, it has
reverted to English.

AND, the spell checker doesn't check anyway -- just asks Start at top?
then says everything is fine. In a document full of misspellings and
gibberish.

Help!

Lenore

  Spell checking works based upon paragraph and character styles. You
have set Spanish (Mexican) as your language meaning that the Default
paragraph style in the Font tab has this selected as the dictionary used
to check spelling.
  If you want to use Spanish, you need to create a new paragraph
style with Spanish selected as the language in the Font tab. Then apply
the Spanish style to all the paragraphs containing Spanish. For
paragraphs containing Spanish (Mexican), apply the Default paragraph
style.
  More information on styles are found in the Getting Started with
Writer chapter of the Getting Started Guide and the styles chapters in
the Writer Guide.

--Dan
I am not sure why the person sent the two emails to me off the list.  If 
the person was looking at LO from my portal site, they would have used 
the different email address that was displayed there.


There is a point about setting the default language for spell checking 
that is not English, when you are using English for your menu language.


There should be a way to keep it set to Spanish, French, or other 
supported language, without it defaulting back to English until you tell 
it to.  The complex way to spell check a non-English text with a 
non-English dictionary that is installed and enabled, seems too complex 
to me.  What happens if you write a text that was completely in English, 
but you type a word or two that was in perfectly spelled French or 
Spanish?  Now it seems that you have to check each bit of text with each 
and every possible language that might be written within that text.  For 
someone who writes in English but needs to reference words from other 
languages that he/she has installed dictionaries for those other 
languages, we need to have an easier way to help them spell check 
his/her writing.  When I write some text for a document and know that 
the word I just typed is correctly spelled, and it is not a standard 
English word, I still get them underlined as misspelled.  Take the words 
Español and Français.  I have Spanish and French dictionaries 
installed [which are locked so they cannot be uninstalled or modified], 
I get the underline stating that I have misspelled then.  I have to run 
the different languages through the spell checking system to get them to 
work.  Also, With the language menu so filled with different versions of 
English and French, it had only one space left for a version of Spanish 
and no space left for German or other language.  The menu list for 
languages is the language box that comes up when you press the spelling 
and grammar icon in the Standard Toolbar.  So with only the default 
and locked dictionaries enabled, this language menu gives me the 
following and no room for any more:


English - Australia, Canada, Erie, India, Nambia, South Africa, UK, USA, 
and Zimbabwe.


French - Belgium, Canada, France, Luxembourg, Monaco, Switzerland.

Spanish - Spain.

I have a German dictionary installed and there is no listing so I can 
use it to spell check German words.  I think it is due to the fact that 
the default and locked English and French dictionaries have listed in 
them ALL of these different version of those two languages and the menu 
system is picking up on them and listing all of them in the limited menu 
space.


Since I am using Ubuntu, I am not given the option of a custom 
install, like Windows, so I can decide on the dictionaries I want 
installed.  So that may be the reason I am getting this issue for lack 
of menu space for the other installed languages.


But the issue for making it easier to spell check a non-English language 
or keeping that language from switching back from your selected 
document/paragraph/text language choice is in need of a looking in to.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

2012-02-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Here is a question then,
What was used to create the following file?
Was it the Writer2epub extension or some other package?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/6/6c/0100GS3-GettingStartedLibO.epub

So far, it seems that the Getting Started manual is the only one with 
that file format included in the listing.  Maybe the others should be 
done so as well, since there seemed to be a comment on a different 
thread about having the documentation available for iPads and the other 
tablet technology.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

2012-02-11 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/10/2012 09:21 PM, James Knott wrote:

Andreas Säger wrote:
I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub 
format for

the iPad.


Why not PDF? What is the advantage of epub?



On ebook readers, epub text flows as required with different font 
sizes.  PDFs don't.





It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
epub.  They did this for business i.e. money/profit reasons.  People 
had to buy their formatted documents.  Now with the conversion packages, 
it is not an issue, as long as you have a conversion package.


I prefer PDF files for my documents, printer with CUPS-PDF or doPDF.  
That way I keep all my specialty fonts in the document instead of LO's 
tendency to replace them with its core font set.


Having external packages, instead of LO extensions do work better 
sometimes, but the developers of the extensions are doing their best to 
make their packages work as well as these external packages like 
Calibre.  I am told that the LO developers are working on the issues I 
have with specialty fonts and their PDF exporting option.


So, right now, do what works best.  Create your documents in LO and then 
use whatever works to convert them into the format you need for the 
specific job.  Most of us need to have .doc and .pdf file versions of 
our documents for our co-workers or our bosses.  Making them work with a 
tablet/e-reader package is relatively new compared to what the 
developers have been working towards.  Next big thing is write a version 
that will work on an Android tablet.  Some people are talking about an 
iPad version as well.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

2012-02-11 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/11/2012 07:47 AM, James Knott wrote:

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
It seems that different e-readers prefer different text formats, like 
epub.  They did this for business i.e. money/profit reasons.  
People had to buy their formatted documents.


Have you used an ereader?  I have read both PDF and epub on mine and 
epub is much better.  I can also read epub on my smart phone, where 
the screen is so small as to make it virtually useless for PDF.  As 
for business, books I download from the library are often available 
in both epub and PDF.  Also, O'Reilly books are generally available in 
several formats and you can download whatevers ones you want, 
including all, if you're so inclined.



I do not have a tablet computer or a smart phone with a screen large 
enough to read books.


I have seen PDF books defined as paperback size of pages.  Places like 
Lulu.com publish books with print on demand service.  They have 
templates that are for the popular book sizes.  If I was going to create 
an e-book, I would use one of those templates to make a book the 
physical screen size of a paperback book.  Actually I prefer to buy 
physical books in that size, since it is easier for me to read that size 
of book over the standard hardcover books.


So, I would do the same for any e-book I would create.

Yes, publishers are not looking at [or doing it now] several file 
formats for their e-books.  I once had a lot of PDF technical books.  
Easy to get, but hard to use, or at least for me.  I prefer to use page 
marking papers and a highlighter marker to mark the book pages that are 
what I need.  I do not have that option for an e-book.  One thing I do 
like for the PDF books is to be able to copy text [code mostly] from the 
PDF documents and use that copied text within my documents or programming.


So, to each his own.  But if you are going to create an e-book with 
fixed page sizes and fonts, you must define the page size for the best 
use on the screen size it is targeted for.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Write2epub

2012-02-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/10/2012 09:41 AM, Tinkerer wrote:

I have found Write2epub.
All the extensions are on a disc downloaded from Kracked Press.

I thought I would try it for converting Libre User Guides to epub format for
the iPad.
I may not have set it up correctly, but just using the extension as
supplied, I failed.
The staus bar along the bottom showed converting images and this took about
10 seconds.
It then started to convert text. The bar progressed about an inch across the
bottom, then it stopped.
An hour later and it was still stationary.
In the Documents folder, a folder had been created using the same name with
WE2_folder added
There was also a a file with the same name plus WE2_odt
I tried to convert a smaller single page odt file with exactly the same
result.

Using LO 3.5rc3 neither Export as PDF or Writer2epub works on my Mac 10.7.2

Tink.

Sorry
Last time I tried Write2epub with LO it worked.  If it does not work 
with the newest version, then I will have to think about what I am going 
to do.


I have not tried 3.5.x yet.
Also, I use Ubuntu and Windows.  I have not access to Mac.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Write2epub

2012-02-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/10/2012 02:57 PM, Tinkerer wrote:

KP

This is my first effort at using Write2epub.
Does it just output the one file for you?

Tink.

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All I did was test it for conversion.  It worked spring of last year, 
and maybe summer as well.  I was looking at e-reader software for Ubuntu 
and tested LO with it and the result with the packages.  So I do not 
remember much from back then - due to my memory issues from 3 strokes.  
But it worked back then or it would not have been included with the rest 
of the extensions on my DVD/portal pages.


I just installed the extensions and used it.

I got a file with the same name as the original .odt but with the 
.epub extension.  Since I do not have any e-reader installed at this 
time, I was not able to test the file out.


So for me to test it again, I will have to find a Ubuntu 10.04 epub 
reader package.  Will see about doing that after I finish my dictionary 
work, which is after a current work that takes top-priority over 
everything else for the time I have on my computer [less time every day 
due to pain from my debilitating injuries that seems to be worse every 
day.  Got a MRI scheduled on Monday which was really quick for my doctor 
ordered yesterday.] .  BUT, I will finish the dictionaries this month - 
which it my plan anyways.





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[libreoffice-users] Paste Special issues in 3.4.4 - 64-bit .deb

2012-02-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


After using the 3.4.4 version on a 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 system, I came 
across an error.


The Paste Special option in Writer seems not to work.  I have not 
tried it in the other modules, since I had not needed to use it for them 
before.


Yesterday was the first time I used that option since moving from 3.4.3 
to 3.4.4.  It did nothing.  Using Paste worked, but I wanted to have 
the text inserted as unformatted.  What I did was copy some info from a 
web site and pasted it into a document that would later be emailed.  I 
did not want the HTML formatting to be there.  I have done this many 
times with 3.4.3 and it worked fine, but 3.4.4 did not when I tried it.


I know that there is a 3.4.5 version out, but right now I am using 3.4.4 
and if I found this issue, people I deal with might ask me about this 
issue.  I have given out many 3.4.4 DVDs [not as many 3.4.3 though] so 
if there is an issue with Paste Special, on Windows and not just with 
the 64-bit .deb version, then I need to know about it.


SO, has any other users tried the Paste Special option in Writer?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paste Special issues in 3.4.4 - 64-bit .deb

2012-02-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/05/2012 11:14 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 09:00 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:

After using the 3.4.4 version on a 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 system, I came
across an error.

The Paste Special option in Writer seems not to work.  I have not
tried it in the other modules, since I had not needed to use it for them
before.

Yesterday was the first time I used that option since moving from 3.4.3
to 3.4.4.  It did nothing.  Using Paste worked, but I wanted to have
the text inserted as unformatted.  What I did was copy some info from a
web site and pasted it into a document that would later be emailed.  I
did not want the HTML formatting to be there.  I have done this many
times with 3.4.3 and it worked fine, but 3.4.4 did not when I tried it.

I know that there is a 3.4.5 version out, but right now I am using 3.4.4
and if I found this issue, people I deal with might ask me about this
issue.  I have given out many 3.4.4 DVDs [not as many 3.4.3 though] so
if there is an issue with Paste Special, on Windows and not just with
the 64-bit .deb version, then I need to know about it.

SO, has any other users tried the Paste Special option in Writer?


   This is something that I noticed some time ago using 3.4.4. from
the LO website. In my case, Control+Shift+V did not open the usual
dialog allowing me to select my preferred style to use for the pasted
material. One thing I thought peculiar was that clicking
Edit gave me a menu in which Paste was active but Paste Special was
grayed out. So, I have had the same experience.
   I must say that 3.4.5 from the LO website does not have this
problem.
--Dan




First
I downloaded 3.4.4 from the LO download page.
I run 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with GNOME 2.x as the desktop and have KDE 
installed as well.

I run a quad-core AMD Phenom system.

I had 3.4.3, on the system and installed 3.4.4 a few days/weeks after 
Nov 9th, which is the date I downloaded it.


Second
The Paste Special is not grayed out, but neither clicking on the 
listing or using the keyboard short-cut works.


As far as I can remember, I do not remember using that option since I 
installed it.  Actually I do not remember the last time I needed to use 
it.  So it could have been an issue with 3.4.4 from the install or it 
could have crept up sometime after the install.  Since I do not know 
when was the last time I needed to use that option, I could have after 
the 3.4.4 install, or not.


As for what happens
Nothing happens.  It is like I did not click on a menu listing at all.  
No dialog box opens or text pasted.  The standard paste option worked 
fine.


As for Writer specific, well I have not tried it with Calc.  I did 
rename the .libreoffice folder to .libreoffice--old and opened 
Writer up.  Well the first thing I noticed was it did not give me the 
default first-time use menus to give my name, and such.  That was 
different for the last time I renamed the hidden folder.  Actually this 
time it did bring up the dialog box.


So it must have been an issue with the .libreoffice hidden folder.

The question is why did it not bring up the menus that asked for my 
information like a clean install would do.  As I said, the last time I 
renamed the folder, I got that set of menus.  It do have to reinstall 
all my templates and extensions though.


So there still is a problem with 3.4.4 on my system.

Maybe I should just delete the current folder and install 3.4.5 now.

Debian has 3.4.5 on its repository now?
Ubuntu 10.04 seems to have 3.4.4 currently, I think.
I did not go to 11.04 or 11.10 since I do not like Unity.








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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paste Special issues in 3.4.4 - 64-bit .deb

2012-02-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/05/2012 12:53 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 05/02/2012 at 17:56, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:


As for Writer specific, well I have not tried it with Calc.  I did
rename the .libreoffice folder to .libreoffice--old and opened
Writer up.  Well the first thing I noticed was it did not give me the
default first-time use menus to give my name, and such.  That was
different for the last time I renamed the hidden folder.  Actually this
time it did bring up the dialog box.

So it must have been an issue with the .libreoffice hidden folder.

The question is why did it not bring up the menus that asked for my
information like a clean install would do.  As I said, the last time I
renamed the folder, I got that set of menus.  It do have to reinstall
all my templates and extensions though.

I understand that renaming ~/.libreoffice folder solved your issue. Is that
correct? I think that you have two ways from now on.

Dan suggest that 3.4.5 does not have that problem, so you may consider
upgrade.

If you want to stay with 3.4.4 for a while, then let's talk about getting your
extensions and templates back ;) .

They are still in your ~/.libreoffice--old folder. You may try to copy them to
your new ~/.libreoffice. Unfortunately, I can not help you to decide which files
you exactly has to copy. Definitely ~/.libreoffice/3/user/extensions and
~/.libreoffice/3/user/template folders, maybe something else too. Just check
names of files, they should give a clue what they are for. By copying files one
by one and running LO after each copy (to see if everything is in place) you
should be able to get you templates and extensions without need to search them
over the net and installing manually.
I just installed them again via the Extension Manager.  Then I saved the 
.libreoffice folder with a new name as my back folder for it.  I did 
not want to manually copy anything from the old hidden folder.



Or you can rename you .libreoffice--old back to .libreoffice and remove 
suspicious
files one by one, until you track which caused your problems. But make sure you
have backup copy of your original ~/.libreoffice in case you delete one file too
much.

As for information dialog, I see two possible explanations.
1. Wikipedia article about LibreOffice states The first run wizard from
OpenOffice.org that guides a user through the setting of user name and the
registration process has been removed from LibreOffice”. I can confirm this -
running LO on clean user does not bring any dialog about user information.

2. Do you happen to still have old ~/.openoffice.org folder? As far as I
remember, LO run for first time migrates config from ~/.oo.o to ~/.lo folder.
Perhaps it migrates user information as well, which would explain why LO does
not ask for them.

HTH.
No, I do not have any .openoffice.org type of folder.  I have not used 
it for almost a year now and I have done a complete wipe/rebuild of this 
system several times since then.


Where it go the info for Tools/Options/User Data, I do not know.  The 
last time I did the renaming of the .libreoffice folder, I was asked 
to supply the information in that dialog box.  So somewhere it was saved.


Does the User Data dialog box come up on a new/clean install for LO 
.deb install anymore?  Does it come up with a Windows install?  To be 
honest, I do not know if having this dialog box pop up during the 
install is useful or not.  I do not fill most of the blanks for the 
needed information.  I tend not to have that info attached to the 
document.  I would prefer to give out that info only to those who need 
it or those I want to have it.  There are a lot of people that I do not 
want to have my full name, address, email, phone [cell, land-line, 
fax].  I just have as little listed there.  Somewhere it is stored 
besides the .libreoffice folder on my Ubuntu system.

Debian has 3.4.5 on its repository now?

Yes, there is 3.4.5 in both testing and unstable. There is also 3.5.0-rc3 in
experimental.

I am not sure what will happen if you try to install Debian packages on your
Ubuntu system, though. It may break some things.


I do not know if my Package manager is showing 3.4.5 as the latest 
version on the repository, or it is showing it since it is the latest 
version one the computer.  The version numbers for installed version 
and latest version is 3.4.5-502, now.  I installed 3.4.5 a few minutes 
ago.  I forgot to check if the repository had updated to 3.4.5 while I 
still had 3.4.4 installed.


To be honest, I tend to download and install the LO website version 
instead of waiting for the repository version.  I sometimes download and 
install package upgrades if the official sites have newer version 
instead of waiting for the repository to get the update/upgrade.  There 
seems to be more and more packages that are listed in the Ubuntu 
Software Center as Canonical does not provide updates for . . . Some 
updates may be provided

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paste Special issues in 3.4.4 - 64-bit .deb

2012-02-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/05/2012 02:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Sun, 2012-02-05 at 20:39 +0100, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 05/02/2012 at 19:31, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
webmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:


Does the User Data dialog box come up on a new/clean install for LO
.deb install anymore?

I simulated clean install (get test user and removed his ~/.libreoffice and
~/.openoffice.org folders) on my Debian testing box. On first run of LibreOffice
there was no box asking for user information (like name, address, organization
or anything). I am using LO from Debian repository, so it is possible that
Debian Developers removed that box on startup, although I find it unlikely.

I don't have access to any Windows machine right now, so I don't know how
would Windows version behave.


If Ubuntu 11.xx did not have Unity on
it, but something like GNOME 2.x, I would update my system.  I just do
not like to deal with my system with a desktop environment that makes it
look like a tablet.

There is project called MATE, which is actually renamed GNOME 2. I believe it
is available in Linux Mint repositories. Mint has also Cinnamon, which is fork
of GNOME 3 changed to provide more traditional (GNOME 2-like) look-and-feel.

Linux Mint itself is based on Ubuntu (but there is also version based on
Debian testing).

You may want to give them a try, maybe you will like it. Personally I had much
better experience with Mint than with Ubuntu.
Mint's website:http://linuxmint.com/
--
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski

  Ubuntu 11.10 comes with Classic GNOME. It is what I use instead of
Unity. From the Unity desktop, I logged out. One the left side of the
screen where the user password is entered, there is a cog in the upper
right corner of the box for the password. Clicking it gives these
choices: GNOME, GNOME (without effects), GNOME CLASSIC, Unity, and Unity
2D. Later shutting down and rebooting returns to GNOME CLASSIC.

--Dan


Mint has two versions, Ubuntu based and Debian based.
Actually there are more as well, but these are the two main ones.
I was thinking about it till they stated about not being able to keep
GNOME 2.x desktop for their distro.  I installed Mint 12 and
could not find how to get access to the menus of packages.  There
was no panel to get access to anything with.  So it was not working
on that old test system.

Well, when I tried 11.10 on a P4 server, it insisted on installing Unity
and would not allow me to change to any other desktop.

I assume that you do not have your system auto-login.  Last time I tried 
11.10, I had to go
through a login screen and it did not allow for a change of desktops.  I 
could not even get

to the system settings to deep enough to force the change.

So I wonder which GNOME option would be the same as the default one for 
10.04/GNOME?


Every system I have to try a new OS on is too slow to run Unity.  Maybe 
I will be able to
get one to work with 11.10.  Actually I had a 10.10 with GNOME and KDE 
installed, and
the update/upgrade to 11.04 decided that I did not want/need KDE and it 
un-installed all

of my needed KDE packages I use on a daily or weekly basis.

So you see why I did not want to deal with 11.04 or 11.10 for my default 
system.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus

2012-02-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/02/2012 09:13 PM, Doug wrote:

On 2/2/2012 4:57 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:

Running -
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.4-0ubuntu1
Language is English (UK)

How can I enable the Thesaurus?

If I go to Tools  Language, Thesaurus is greyed out

If I go to Tools  Options  Language Settings  Writing Aids
I see OpenOffice.org New Thesaurus and it is ticked.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks
Mick

Don't know about LO Thesaurus, but a nice free-standing one, which 
also doubles as a dictionary, is Artha.  Check your repos for 
that--it's in PCLOS.


--doug

Yes, I have Artha as a stand-alone one.  You can get it off the distros 
as well, and I believe there is a Windows version as well.


But if you need one to be used in LibreOffice, my set of English 
dictionaries have one that has over 140,000 word/phrase listings to get 
a result from.  All you have to do is download and install one of my 
American English, British English, or Canadian English, .oxt files and 
install it through the Extension Manager.


You can get them at the Extension Center 
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/ and look for the Dictionaries for any 
version.  Or you can go to my portal and download them from there. 
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english  
They start with kpp in the dictionary file list.  There are a total of 
11 dictionaries to choose from.  All you have to do is choose the 
version of English [American, British, or Canadian], and choose the 
spelling word list count size [98K, 217K, 390K, and 638K words in the 
list].  You can install all of them, but only keep one of each English 
version enabled at a time.  Hopefully, soon I will be uploading an 
update with about 1K of computer technical words and terms that were 
missing from these word lists.  I have been busy so I will need a bit of 
time to make the updates available online in the Extension Center and my 
portal.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus

2012-02-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Sorry, Artha is not something I have dealt with, except testing it out 
on my Ubuntu system.


If you think there needs to be a page listing all of the possible 
dictionary and thesaurus options for Ubuntu and Windows, well if I have 
the time I might think about doing one.


But for now, I have a good one for LO within my .oxt 
dictionary/thesaurus/hyphenation files.  Outside of LO, I thing Artha 
might be a useful one.


On 02/03/2012 10:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Would it be reasonably easy to add a link to the Artha one on Tim's dictionary Extensions page?  If that page could be a one-stop-shop it might be good for keeping track of all those things and a good one to sign-post people to. 
Regards from

Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 3 February, 2012, 15:00

On 02/02/2012 09:13 PM, Doug wrote:

On 2/2/2012 4:57 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:

Running -
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.4-0ubuntu1
Language is English (UK)

How can I enable the Thesaurus?

If I go to Tools  Language, Thesaurus is greyed out

If I go to Tools  Options  Language Settings  Writing Aids
I see OpenOffice.org New Thesaurus and it is ticked.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks
Mick


Don't know about LO Thesaurus, but a nice free-standing one, which also doubles 
as a dictionary, is Artha.  Check your repos for that--it's in PCLOS.

--doug


Yes, I have Artha as a stand-alone one.  You can get it off the distros as 
well, and I believe there is a Windows version as well.

But if you need one to be used in LibreOffice, my set of English dictionaries 
have one that has over 140,000 word/phrase listings to get a result from.  All 
you have to do is download and install one of my American English, British 
English, or Canadian English, .oxt files and install it through the Extension 
Manager.

You can get them at the Extension Center http://extensions.libreoffice.org/ and look for 
the Dictionaries for any version.  Or you can go to my portal and download them from 
there. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english  They start 
with kpp in the dictionary file list.  There are a total of 11 dictionaries 
to choose from.  All you have to do is choose the version of English [American, British, 
or Canadian], and choose the spelling word list count size [98K, 217K, 390K, and 638K 
words in the list].  You can install all of them, but only keep one of each English 
version enabled at a time.  Hopefully, soon I will be uploading an update with about 1K 
of computer technical words and terms that were missing from these word lists.  I have 
been busy so I will need a bit of time to make the updates available online in the 
Extension Center and my portal.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus

2012-02-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I do not think that the LO Extension Center would be a good place for 
that.  We need to keep non-LO packages off the LO Extension and Template 
sites.


As for the Thesaurus in LibreOffice, well you need to install a 
dictionary/thesaurus .oxt file as the easiest way to get one working 
with LO.  I know there are Thesaurus files in the Ubuntu repository, but 
I do not know how to get LO to access them properly.  There seems to be 
several file formats for Ubuntu's internal/repository spelling and 
thesaurus data files.  LO must be able access them properly to use 
them.  Since Windows does not include such files, as far as I can tell, 
would the developers create the coding for each type of Linux 
dictionary/thesaurus repository based file formats when Mac and Windows 
might not have them?  Would these file be in all the Ubuntu, Debian, Red 
Hat, openSUSE, etc, based distros, or only in some of them?  I would not 
want to be the one responsible for testing LO to see if it works with 
each and every distro's repository-based spelling dictionary and 
thesaurus files.  It is much easier to just work with the ones enabled 
through the installing of the .oxt file based ones.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html  is the 
list of all the .oxt dictionary and thesaurus files I know of, except 
any new ones listed in the LO Extension Center that I have not listed 
[yet].  There are over 200 dictionaries [last counted] listed, with over 
20 localized Spanish ones.  So, to be honest, I would rather deal with 
using a .oxt file-based thesaurus and dictionary than try to get what 
Ubuntu has to work with LO.


As for the question about stand-alone Thesaurus for Ubuntu, for now 
Artha would be the easiest route to go.  Install it, then run it.  You 
will not see it's window coming up normally.  You have to do a 
ctrl-alt-w to have the window pop up for use.  The package stays in 
memory, or partly, until you reboot [or at least as far as I know it 
does].  I have used it a few times though.  Actually it is more than 
just a Thesaurus.  There is a Relatives tab system that lists their 
titles called: Synonyms, Antonyms, Derivatives, Related to, Attributes, 
Similar, Domain, Causes, Entails, Kind of, Kinds, Part of, and Parts.  
What all these options will show, I have no real clue, but they are listed.




On 02/03/2012 11:17 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ahh, i wasn't think of being that organised.  I was just thinking of adding a 
link to the page that we already have.  That would make your Extensions page a 
central point which would be great imo as there is a lot of great stuff there 
and other packages are possibly not quite so good even before doing more work 
on it.
Regards from
Tom :)


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Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 3 February, 2012, 16:07


Sorry, Artha is not something I have dealt with, except testing it out
on my Ubuntu system.

If you think there needs to be a page listing all of the possible
dictionary and thesaurus options for Ubuntu and Windows, well if I have
the time I might think about doing one.

But for now, I have a good one for LO within my .oxt
dictionary/thesaurus/hyphenation files.  Outside of LO, I thing Artha
might be a useful one.

On 02/03/2012 10:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Would it be reasonably easy to add a link to the Artha one on Tim's dictionary 
Extensions page?  If that page could be a one-stop-shop it might be good for 
keeping track of all those things and a good one to sign-post people to.
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 3 February, 2012, 15:00

On 02/02/2012 09:13 PM, Doug wrote:

On 2/2/2012 4:57 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:

Running -
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.4-0ubuntu1
Language is English (UK)

How can I enable the Thesaurus?

If I go to Tools   Language, Thesaurus is greyed out

If I go to Tools   Options   Language Settings   Writing Aids
I see OpenOffice.org New Thesaurus and it is ticked.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks
Mick


Don't know about LO Thesaurus, but a nice free-standing one, which also doubles 
as a dictionary, is Artha.  Check your repos for that--it's in PCLOS.

--doug


Yes, I have Artha as a stand-alone one.  You can get it off the distros as 
well, and I believe there is a Windows version as well.

But if you need one to be used in LibreOffice, my set of English dictionaries 
have one that has over 140,000 word/phrase listings to get a result from.  All 
you have to 

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to Enable Thesaurus

2012-02-02 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Try this one;
Download this British English [You did want British English correct?] 
dictionary that has a Thesaurus built into it.  Then install it [with 
the Extension Manager].  Then see if you have a Thesaurus.  IF you do, 
then you did not have a working one installed that LO can use.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/kpp-british-english-dictionary-390K-word-list.oxt

The American version is what I use with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

Actually this file comes from my work trying to make a set of good 
English dictionaries for LO.


If you decide it works for you, go to the Extension Center and decide 
which British English [American, or Canadian version as well] you would 
like to use.


http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries



On 02/02/2012 07:47 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 02/02/2012 06:41 PM, Thomas Damratowski wrote:

Works running
Windows 7
LibreOffice 3.4.5
OOO340m1 (Build:502)

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Mick Sulleym...@sulley.info  wrote:


Running -
LibreOffice 3.3.4
OOO330m19 (Build:401)
tag libreoffice-3.3.3.1, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.4-0ubuntu1
Language is English (UK)

Which Ubuntu version do you have? If you have synaptic installed, check
to see which dictionaries/thesauri you have installed for LO. You can
search using Libreoffice, hunspell, and myspell.

How can I enable the Thesaurus?

If I go to Tools  Language, Thesaurus is greyed out

If I go to Tools  Options  Language Settings  Writing Aids
I see OpenOffice.org New Thesaurus and it is ticked.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks
Mick




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Re: [libreoffice-users] How do I change page orientation for only ONE page in Writer?

2012-01-31 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/31/2012 06:55 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 13:31 +0200, Konstantinos Tzoannopoulos wrote:

What the subject says - I need to change the orientation of only ONE page
in Writer, but for some reason it only lets me do it for ALL the pages.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?


   This is done using Page styles. The Writer Guide on page 119
describes how to do what you want to do. You can download it at:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/. Or you could
download chapter 4 which discusses what you can do with pages. I
recommend downloading the entire Writer Guide so you will have a
reference for future questions.

--Dan


I prefer the WIKI page, since it shows the date of last modification.  
It also shows which documents are for the 3.3.x line and the 3.4.x 
line.  3.4.x line documentation is currently being worked on, though.


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

I will have to work on downloading the documentation again to get the 
most up-to-date versions for my DVDs.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I change page orientation for only ONE page in Writer?

2012-01-31 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/31/2012 08:55 AM, Tom wrote:

Hi :)

Getting back to the original question and Dan's answer.  I think you need to
have a section-break or something so that the style changes for that page(s)
and then changes back for the next section.  I really need to read that
chapter to understand styles better.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
(same as the official page)
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/#wg

Regards from
Tom :)

Maybe a manual page break?



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[libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions



Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?

This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the 
Users as well.


Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I 
think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it 
looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues 
with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying 
windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to 
other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux 
Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x style 
of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint since they 
still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it from their 
source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork of Debian] 
they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to keep their 
users happy.


Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux Mint 
12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA for; 
Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.


I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not 
like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So I 
was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell 
combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date 
OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At 
least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the 
repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.


http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like GNOME 
3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will either have 
to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is chosen, then they 
have to use something other than the standard GNOME 3 desktop.


For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are 
packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of 
GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of 
the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me 
to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.  Now, 
if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try Mint 12 
with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old system [bios 
will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not even Win2000] a 
replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can test Cinnamon with 
LO, and I would like to know if it does work well with LO.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does LO work with Cinnamon - GNOME2 shell in 3?

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


The way I read it, Cinnamon was the default for Mint 12.  I could be 
wrong though.


Right now, from what I have seen in the screen clips for Mint 12, I do 
not see any panels or other way to bring up the menu system so you can 
run/install packages.  The only thing that is shown is the Home folder 
icon and the Computer/Terminal looking icon.


On 01/29/2012 02:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 01/29/2012 12:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Anyone out there have used Linux Mint 12 with LO?

Yes with Gnome 3, Clem added some features to Gnome 3 so that the DE has
features from 2.X in addition to the normal Gnome 3 for Linux Mint 12.

I believe Cinnamon and Mate are alternate DE's. Cinnamon, I believe, is
new DE while Mate is a fork/continuation of Gnome 2. Cinnamon 1.2 is
considered stable and has been released.

I have briefly looked at Cinnamon and as I remember I had no problems
with LO or any other packages I had tried.

This is actually a developer's question, but needs to be asked of the
Users as well.

Does anyone know if LO works with the Cinnamon, which is a shell [I
think that is the correct term] that is placed over GNOME 3.x so it
looks and works like GNOME2.x?  I remember that there was some issues
with LO working with GNOME 3.x desktop environment's way of displaying
windows.  Since the 2.x project is closed and people were going to
other distros and desktops due to their dislike of GNOME 3.x, Linux
Mint  decided to develop a way for people to have their GNOME 2.x
style of desktop on 3.x.  It seemed that people were going to Mint
since they still supported 2.x, but when they could no longer get it
from their source [Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, with another Mint a fork
of Debian] they had to provide a GNOME 2.x style of desktop shell to
keep their users happy.

Cinnamon is not stable, according to the web site.  It is on Linux
Mint 12, and either in the repository, a Git repository, or in a PPA
for; Ubuntu 11.10, Fedora 16, OpenSUSE 12.1, Arch Linux, and Gentoo.

I have not tried it, since I am still using Ubuntu 10.04.  I did not
like Ubuntu's switch to GNOME3 and could not use it with my needs.  So
I was stuck with 10.xx.  If LO will support that desktop shell
combination, I will now be able to look into having a more up-to-date
OS, other than what Ubuntu places in its 10.04 repository updates.  At
least 10.04 now shows LO 3.4.4-402 as the latest version in the
repository, which I installed from LO's web site when it came out.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61

With Win 8 going to the Tablet-style of desktop environment, like
GNOME 3 seems to be as well, there is talk about many users will
either have to back-port it to Win 7 or go to Linux.  If Linux is
chosen, then they have to use something other than the standard GNOME
3 desktop.

For myself, I use a combination of GNOME2.x and KDE since there are
packages in KDE that are better than GNOME 2.x's version and some of
GNOME 2.x works better than KDE for me for the actual desktop. Many of
the  KDE system monitoring and modification packages are easier for me
to use over GNOME 2.x versions.  So I have a interesting setup.
Now, if I can get a replacement drive for my test system, I will try
Mint 12 with Cinnamon, but it may take time to get that really old
system [bios will not work with any Windows newer than Win ME, not
even Win2000] a replacement drive.  So it will be awhile before I can
test Cinnamon with LO, and I would like to know if it does work well
with LO.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] capitalization

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/29/2012 09:25 AM, lee wrote:

Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  writes:


Hi :)
|It sounds like something in auto-correct to me.  What sorts of words
| are getting capitalised?  Days of the week, place names, first word
| in a sentence, stuff like that?  Hmm, now that i have looked in

Tools - AutoCorrect Options

Thanks, I found it!


Did you see all the other options in the AutoCorrect Option tabs?  There 
are a lot of parts like exemption, replace, auto complete, that might be 
useful to someone.


The ignore double spaces is an option that needs to be looked.  To be 
honest, I do not know what it does when it is checked.  I use double 
spacing between lines of text, since that was the preferred way the 
last time I took an English course that required typed papers.  The 
professor required double spaces between lines of the proper English.  
I wonder if double spacing could be for double spacing in the line spacing?


But, there are many option in the Auto Correction window's tabs.  They 
need to be looked at carefully to see which ones are needed or even 
wanted for your typing of a default document.


One thing that bothers me it that the replace option list does not 
replace consistently.  Most of the first part of the list, down till you 
get to the fraction replacements, seems not to want to work most of the 
time.  The first one of the -- to the long dash is one I could use a 
lot, but half the time it does not work when editing the text and adding 
the double dashes and expect the long-dash to be shown.


Also, who came up with all those misspelled words?  Is there a chance 
that any of them might be wanted in some form of English or non-English 
language?


Well I was just wondering about those things.

Still having some controls over the auto-correction helps.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] emacs mode?

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/29/2012 03:16 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 29/01/2012 at 19:38, leel...@songoku.yagibdah.de  wrote:


Hm, that doesn´t seem to come even close ... Like how do I set C-x-f to
open a file or C-x-C-s to save one or C-x-s to save many --- for just to
name a few examples?

I don't use emacs, so I don't know how complex keyboard shortcuts you may
need. In LO you can assign any function to almost any combination of Ctrl,
Shift, Alt and keyboard keys. But you can't do complex sequences like ctrl+x,
then f (with or without ctrl). LO may simply not be sufficient enough.


How about a libre office mode for emacs? :)

I can imagine that developers would be more than happy to include it in some
future release, but I don't think anyone would devote time to do so (it would
be really low on priorities list). So if you really need it, perhaps you have
to write it yourself.

Anyway, you should ask about it on developers' mailing list.

What type of documents are you typing?

emacs seems to me that it is used for mainframe programming editors, 
not word processors.  I could be wrong about that, if there is a 
specific word processor that uses the emacs key shortcuts withing 
their control/navigation system.  It has been many years since I used an 
editor that used those [or vi/vim] commands.  When I do the editing for 
programming, I use Kate or gedit for Linux and NoteTab++ for Windows.  I 
find they are much easier to use than the original text/program editors 
that used vi/vim/emacs editing controls instead of mouse/menu controls.  
Well I got spoiled after all those years on a dumb terminal or typing 
punch cards.  I prefer a window environment like GNOME2 gives you over 
Terminal use that works a lot like what I had to do with the mainframes 
I worked on.  Well Win XP/pro is nice as well, if I have to use a 
non-Linux system.


So the question is what you are doing for the typing?

I know that if you have had years worth of finger-memory for using the 
keyboard shortcuts, that is is hard to get use to using the mouse/menu 
option and the word processor's internal shortcuts like Ctrl-Alt-f to 
open the Find/Replace option[s] or  Ctrl-A for select all.  I do not 
remember these shortcuts much.  Each package seems to have their own 
definations beyond Ctrl-x, -c, and -v.  Some change Ctrl-c and -z as well.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] capitalization

2012-01-29 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/29/2012 05:47 PM, doug wrote:

On 01/29/2012 03:25 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 01/29/2012 09:25 AM, lee wrote:

Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  writes:


Hi :)
|It sounds like something in auto-correct to me.  What sorts of words
| are getting capitalised?  Days of the week, place names, first word
| in a sentence, stuff like that?  Hmm, now that i have looked in

Tools - AutoCorrect Options

Thanks, I found it!


Did you see all the other options in the AutoCorrect Option tabs?  
There are a lot of parts like exemption, replace, auto complete, that 
might be useful to someone.


The ignore double spaces is an option that needs to be looked.  To be 
honest, I do not know what it does when it is checked.  I use double 
spacing between lines of text, since that was the preferred way the 
last time I took an English course that required typed papers.  The 
professor required double spaces between lines of the proper 
English.  I wonder if double spacing could be for double spacing in 
the line spacing?

/snip/

I think the double spaces refers to the old scheme I was taught in 
school 60 years ago to double-space after a period.
Apparently that's not good practice anymore.  The line spacing you can 
set up in the format protocol.


--doug

Things change and then change back all the time.  I have 3 college 
degrees.  The official proper use and look of foot notes changed 4 or 
5 times between the first college degree, through the last and into my 
work at a local school district.  Other page formatting from margins, 
notation, biography, and other parts of a written paper as the years 
went by, swing from one extreme and back again.  As for the 60 years ago 
for double space issue, well I had to type up college papers [with a 
Windows based computer in 2000 or 2001] and I was required to use 2 
spaces between a period and the capital letter of the next line - 
Required or it would loose me grade points.  There was some papers that 
required a full line spacing between text lines of the page, while 
others used standard line spacing.  For the foot notes, and other 
things, I had to buy the currently used English writing text book used 
in the first two semester courses for writing properly.  I already had 3 
others on the shelf and had to use the newest one.  The book changed 
since my 1st semester of the 3rd degree and the last semester of night 
college courses [3+ years later taking only the courses needed to go 
from the 2nd degree to the 3rd one].


So the long and short of it is, what is required for proper writing of 
papers changes yearly, or every time English professionals get together 
to review what concepts and requirements came out since the last 
get-together.


Now that people use computers more than typewriters, the changes can 
come faster as the influences are spread via the Net faster.  Actually 
my neighbor's kids were required to type of their 5-8 grade papers 
before their parents could afford to buy one.  IF it was not typed up 
via a computer and a printed copy with a digital copy handed in, they 
would fail the assignment.  This was at a school where over a third of 
the kids had no computer at home, but it was a requirement for the 
district that their students had to have a computer at home to 
write/print/save-to-disc their written assignments - since it was easier 
and quicker to read than handwritten papers.  I ended up having the 
neighbor's kids come over and type on one of my machines in my home/office.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] capitalization

2012-01-28 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Auto-correct is something I do not like for the capitalizing.  It tends 
to require capitals for the first word in each physical line, even 
when it is not wanted or needed.  Look at your Auto Correction options 
carefully.  Choose the ones you really want to help you while you are 
typing the words and such.  You still can do the corrections after you 
write the draft of the paragraph and not have the auto-correction 
options interfere with your flow of thought.


On 01/28/2012 09:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
|It sounds like something in auto-correct to me.  What sorts of words are 
getting capitalised?  Days of the week, place names, first word in a sentence, 
stuff like that?  Hmm, now that i have looked in

Tools - AutoCorrect Options

I can't see places names and days listed.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 27/1/12, leel...@songoku.yagibdah.de  wrote:

From: leel...@songoku.yagibdah.de
Subject: [libreoffice-users] capitalization
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 27 January, 2012, 23:39

Hi,

why does LO change words I type to begin with a capital letter instead
of the small letter I typed, and how do I prevent that? It´s a bug that
needs to be fixed ...




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[libreoffice-users] was: LWP documents

2012-01-28 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


The issue back then was everyone had their own proprietary file format, 
since there was no common one that could be used by any company, except 
txt and other formats that did not keep the file's formatting 
properly.  No company would allow you to use their proprietary formats.


The there was a movement to create a common file format that everyone 
could use.  In the end, that set of document formats developed into the 
Open Document Formats.


Now any company can use this non-proprietaryset of document formats to 
create, read, or edit documents created by other companies' packages.


Yes, it was total chaos.  I remember having to manually edit some 
document files in a text editor to remove the formatting codes so it 
could be read by a different word processor, since the facility did not 
have that package.  That worked for some formats, but not others.  Now 
there is one standard ODF, although Microsoft would say it is their 
formats.


Yes MSO formats have dominated the field of what formats are used, but 
MS did not share its proprietary formats with the competitors.  OOo and 
LO had to reverse-engineer its ability to read MSO formats.  MS did try 
to get its XML based formats [docx and such] made into an 
International standard, but would not give up control of its 
development, which is a requirement to make it fully an open standard - 
no one company can control an open standard, since it would have its 
development controlled by an international committee of companies and 
groups of people/users who want to make it better.  MS wanted to publish 
a version of their standard in a way that there would be still 
proprietary parts to the open standard that required MS products to use 
them properly.  Also they wanted to decide what would be done to that 
standard without any other company/group having a say.  This is a sore 
subject for some of us, with all of MS's legal [and illegal] behind the 
scenes politics [and bribery] to make their open formats be THE 
international standard after the vote decided on ODF as the [one an 
only] ISO standard for office document formats.


Chaos was the past.  Greed is what is going on now.  The true use of a 
free open format by most [hopefully all] of the office packages should 
be our future.  LO uses ODF as their default.  As changes are proposed 
and developed, LO should modify its filters/programming to use those 
modifications of ODF properly in their created/edited documents.  LO/TDF 
is not in control of that format, but can offer up proposals to make it 
work better in the real world of office use.  MS wants every user to 
use their open formats, but you must use their office package to use 
it fully and properly.  MS does not want to hand over the ability of its 
competitors to read/write/edit files created with their packages, so 
that users no longer need to use its office package.  That was the way 
of most of the word processors and office packages in the past.  Most of 
them, excluding MS, have decided that it would be better to go with the 
international movement and be able to properly read/write/edit a single 
fully open set of document formats, instead of forcing users to buy 
their package to read/write/edit files that were created with their 
packages.  It is better to use an ISO set of document formats.


Now these office packages will be used if and only if they are 
determined to be the best/easiest package for the users to get their 
word done.


LO and other FOSS packages include the idea of best to include free 
in its definition.


For many of us, with limited budgets and other issues, choose free over 
paid packages.


Why pay for software when you can legally get software that does the 
same thing for free?  FOSS package creators do not have the must make 
as much profit attitude as companies like MS does.  That attitude is 
what drove the file format chaos of the early days of desktop 
computing.  Now that that industry has grown out if its childhood years, 
we need to survive its teenage years.  The concept of true openness of 
the Internet hopefully will make its adulthood a much better place, with 
less chaos and with a more grown up attitude like what people should 
teach their children to make them a better adult.




On 01/28/2012 02:43 AM, soumalya ray wrote:
i was just wondering-there are so many file formats in this world.if this
is the case now,what was the picture 5-10 years back!!its a total chaos.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading 3.4.5

2012-01-28 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I finally got my first torrent to work via KDE's KGet, instead of 
GNOME's version of it.  My problem with uploading a torrent file is my 
upload speed is only about 120 KB/s, instead of the 1 MB/s I am told I 
should get with my account.  My download speeds are over 10 MB/s easily 
though.


So when I need to deal with email or other package that needs to upload 
packets, I cannot be using Torrent, FTP, or any other package that needs 
any uploading to do its work, including packet verification processes or 
commands telling servers that the packets arrived properly.


So when I have to deal with a torrent download, I MUST set my uploading 
speed to the bare minimal amount to allow the process to be done.  So 
for me to share a large file from my computer is not an option.


Yes, the downloading via torrents work great for a stop and start 
process, such as a dialup user using his/her connection at night to 
download the file and then shut it down till the next night of downloads.



On 01/28/2012 07:52 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Brilliant :)  Figuring torrents out is a bit tricky first time but it seems to be a better way to download stuff. 


The first few paragraphs on this wiki are pretty good despite the tag warning about it 
being too technical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)
Note that when you download this way you also upload the file at the same time.  You might want to poke around in the settings of the torrent-client and throttle that back a bit.  It's usually polite to let it upload the file twice but it's not vital. 

Hefty downloads are easier because you can take long breaks between downloading chunks.  It could be months and many reboots before continuing if you want.  Also it is not quite so important to check the integrity of the completed download because torrenting has various checks built-in. 

Now you have the torrent-client you can just double-click on the *.torrent files you download to start them up. 
Regards from

Tom :)


--- On Sat, 28/1/12, Robert Peirceb...@peirce-family.com  wrote:

From: Robert Peirceb...@peirce-family.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading 3.4.5
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 28 January, 2012, 23:09

In articlebob-d2b5dd.17572628012...@news.gmane.org,
  Robert Peirceb...@peirce-family.com  wrote:


I tried Safari again and then I tried Firefox.  Neither was going
anywhere fast, so I selected the Download using BitTorrent option.  It
downloaded a file named LibO_3.4.5_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.torrent
but it in't executable and I don't know what to do with it.  The
activity monitor doesn't indicate it is doing anything.  Does it need to
be started in some way?

I see I need the bittorrent app to make this work.  I downloaded,
installed and started it up.  I dragged the above file in and it is now
downloading.  Thanks, everybody.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: one language in the installer libre office

2012-01-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/25/2012 07:42 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-24 1:46 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

HI :)
Ahhh, it would be great if Windows had an official package manager
that could look after all the apps, not just the MS ones and could make
sure everything on the system got updated instead of just patches for
Window's own security flaws. Something that could help people pick and
choose the packages that got installed for a program so that you could
tell it what to install and then walk away with no need to hand-hold it
answering questions all the way through and with each program having
it's own different 'style'. Hmm, but then it would look a lot less like
Windows and might even be a little safer which would be a nightmare for
all those antivirus companies.
Regards from
Tom :)


It would also be nice if Linux would migrate to a universal one size 
fits all package manager that did everything on your wish list for a 
windows package manager.


Tom, please keep your stupid anti-microsoft rants to yourself.

There are a lot of issues that MS has to deal with that make it easier 
to use and install certain software packages.  Linux may have new and 
different ways of doing things that what people have done for years with 
MS desktops, but it does not mean that one is better than the other.  
Each has its good points and its bad points.  Now with MS going the way 
with its desktop interface with Win 8, like Ubuntu did going from GNOME 
2.x to Unity, there will be much to deal with then.  For now, most 
people prefer Windows over Linux for its ease of use.  Win 8 will change 
that opinion for many users.


So yes, the installer for MS Windows would be much better if it was 
broken down to installer file and language/help pack files, like Linux 
is currently doing.


NO, Windows is not better than Linux and Linux is not better than 
Windows, as it currently stands.  We all have our own opinions which is 
the better one, but it does not need to be discusses on this list.


The real issue is the way LO treats the different platforms with one not 
needing language packs while the other one does.  That should not be.  
It should be the same with all the platforms, download the installer 
file and download the language and help packs that are needed beyond the 
basic English ones in the install file.  If you do it for Linux and Mac, 
you should do the same for Windows.  It is only fair, is it not?


Also, with the reworking of parts of LO so it would work properly with 
Unity, the developers will/may need to do the same with Win 8's tablet 
style of interface on their Win 8 desktops and laptops.  Some articles 
are stating that people may move over to Linux [with not Unity style of 
desktop environment] once Win 8 comes out.  So we will need to help 
these Windows users with their needs, and not rant and rave about how 
bad Windows is/was.  We need to help them move over to LO from MSO and 
help anyone who moved from Windows to Linux with their issues and needs 
with dealing with LO in the Linux desktop environments.


I use Ubuntu for my desktop since early 2010.  I still use Windows for 
some systems though.  I like the way Linux has everything you may need 
for software packages without needing to pay all that blood-money for 
doing your needed work.  They should charge for their work, but not 
prices that seen to be made to suck as much blood-money as possible from 
its users.  Now Linux has issues with drivers for the most up-to-date 
devices, since volunteers have to buy the devices and write the drivers 
for them, instead of the device developers writing one for Linux.  
Although there are other issues that make Linux not the best for many 
users, it is still a vital platform of many.  Each has its good and bad 
issues.  Neither it a perfect platform.  So let us stop the my 
platform is better than yours issues here.  It is hard enough for LO 
users to get the Windows people to use a free package like LO over 
paying for MSO on their Windows systems.  There is where we need to 
target Windows users, not their use of Windows over Linux platforms.  We 
need to get users to switch to LO, not try to convince them to switch to 
Linux.  This is the real need.  This is what we need to keep our 
energies focused on.  LO is free and is just as good, or better, than 
MSO.  We need to prove it to its users.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Add pdf as page in document

2012-01-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I use Linux [Ubuntu 10.04] and there are several free PDF editing 
packages for Linux.  One should do what you want.


You also can print PDF through the CUPS-PDF driver.  So any package that 
prints, like Firefox or Thunderbird, can have its output in a PDF format.


I am positive that there is a PDF-merge package that you can print out 
PDF from several packages and merge them into one PDF document.  I did 
this myself in 2010 a few times, but I do not remember what the package 
was called, but it was in the repository.


On 01/24/2012 12:37 AM, upscope wrote:

On Monday, January 23, 2012 09:32:29 PM Jeff Prater wrote:

Your best bet would be to convert your newsletter to a PDF first.
Then, insert the form into the PDF using PDF authoring software like
Adobe Acrobat. That's what I would do.

This will not work. First I use Linux, Second I cannot afford Adobe
Acrobat which to the best of my knowledge does not have a Linux version.
I can create pdf's from LibreOffice and Scribus. I have not had time to
try this in Scribus, it is supposed to import pdf's, but latest update
gives error on trying to open pdf. Need to report bug.

Thanks for your reply anyway.

In order to get bulletin out I just recreated the whole document as a
pdf form in LibreOffice and then save whol bulletin as pdf. Alot of
extra work.

-
Jeff Prater

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:53 PM, upscopeupsc...@nwi.net  wrote:

Is there a way to put a pdf form into a page of a newletter? I
know you can create one, but this form was sent to me to be
included in the newsletter so people can fill it in and then
print it for mailing.
 From writer:
CODE:
---

  file--open and selected the document and file type as .pdf.

/CODE:
-
It opens the pdf in draw instead of the select document page in
writer. I know I save it as an image and insert it but then the
users will not beable to use it.

Thanks for any ideas.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-01-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I am sorry you are not getting any help.  I wonder it it is an isolated 
issue for Fedora 16.  If people have not see this happen before, it is 
hard to figure out what is causing it.


I have never had any issue with Ubuntu 10.04 and HP Color Laserjet 
2600n.  It has been a few years since I has a Laser 4 with postscript, 
but there has to be others out there that use Fedora/Red Hat and your 
printer model.


I cannot get LO to do the duplexing on my Epson printer.  I end up 
printing the file out to a PDF file, then print it out with the default 
PDF viewer and it will work with the duplexing.


So is there any issues with printing/exporting the file to PDF then 
printing it out to your printer?   Do your file require Postscript 
printing instead of HP default printer language?



On 01/24/2012 12:44 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

Twice I tried to send this to the new list, and both times it bounced.
I give up on the new list.
OK, old list now working either. Trying a third new list.

Libreoffice 3.4.4 on Fedora 16, x86_64.
Printer: Laserjet 4M+ (Postscript Level 2)

I used OOo for many years and never had this problem until I switched
to Libreoffice.

Whenever I print to this printer I must remember to go into Properties
Options  Device and change the print type from PDF to Postscript. If
I do not the text will fail to be kerned according to the font metrics;
that is, a proportional font will be spaced as though it was a
monospace font.

All other applications print fine. There is no setting for this in the
driver, which uses a PPD file.

I looked everywhere for a setting to set it to use Postscript as the
default, but I can't find it.

It is extra work to have to change this setting all the time. And
usually I forget to change the setting and have to print the page again
after I realize that I forgot. This is very annoying, and it wastes
paper, toner and electricity.

I really hope someone can tell me how to change the default behavior,
else I will have to remove Libreoffice and reinstall OOo.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: one language in the installer libre office

2012-01-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/24/2012 08:05 AM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Lukasz


Łukasz Janik wrote

for all would be better if it were a language and a dictionary in the
installer to be smaller, so that every time download of 200 mb, 135 mb
only. Please support me in this matter, thanks in advance.


This was discussed before back in November 2010 (when LibreOffice started
distributing the first betas)

At the time it was argued that due to the reduced number of mirrors and disk
space allocated for this project, it would be better initially to have a
single installer instead of a localized installer for each language
supported. This means that for each version you had a 200Mb installer
instead over 100 (example) localized 150Mb installers which would take 15
Gb.

The main problem is that removing all the extra languages only saves you
some 50Mb. Is this worth the trouble?

Regards,
Pedro
It would be nice to have [Windows] LO install not install ALL of the 
dictionaries possible as the default.  If you are asked to choose the 
languages, by default, you want to install - that would make me happy.


Of you could do like Linux does, have the default install and then 
download the other language packs you need beyond the initial install 
file.  Would that make it smaller, or at least it would make all the 
platforms use similar installs - main English install, plus an 
additional install for each language and help packs.  Right now, if you 
have one platform install all of the possible language packs included in 
the default package, then all platforms should do the same.


I use Linux by default, but I use Windows as well for some systems.  It 
would be nice if LO was more consistent on what is needed to be download 
and installed between the platforms.  You will need to download the same 
number of files and then install them via that platform's install 
method.  The KEY is you download the same number of file no matter which 
platform you use.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Visio] Re: So what's with LibO 3.5?

2012-01-21 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


If you really need to read Visio, the free package of Dia does a good 
job, or so I have been told.  I has Visio on one system till MS disabled 
it when they bought it out and now wanted me to pay them for the new 
version.  After that, I could never get it running on a system with MSO 
2002/2003 or newer.  I did a large network project using Visio before 
MSO killed me.  Now I would use Dia if I need a Visio type of system 
with all its libraries.


SO
I wonder if the people at Dia would have any input filters that would be 
useful to LO to support the older Visio files?


On 01/21/2012 03:28 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

I agreed with NoOp once he had explained the situation.  Being able to
read a 12year old undocumented and proprietary format is impressive enough.  
There are a lot of other interesting challenges out there :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 21/1/12, Fridrich Strbafridrich.st...@bluewin.ch  wrote:

From: Fridrich Strbafridrich.st...@bluewin.ch
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Visio] Re: So what's with LibO 3.5?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: NoOpgl...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Saturday, 21 January, 2012, 13:20

Hello,

On 13/01/12 22:42, NoOp wrote:

On 01/13/2012 02:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :) That might be very interesting to the devs and now would be
excellent timing to let them know you have some files from that era.
Regards from Tom :)

They've contributed quite a lot of work:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/the-ultimate-quest-of-bringing-visio-support-to-libreoffice
and at this point introducing:

/Samples/Network Diagram$ file Basic Wide Area Network Diagram.VSD
Basic Wide Area Network Diagram.VSD: CDF V2 Document, Little Endian, Os:
Windows, Version 4.0, Code page: 1252, Author: Copyright \022 1997 Visio
Corporation.  All rights reserved., Keywords: v5.0, Title: Basic Wide
Area Network Diagram

into the picture probably wouldn't be appreciated. I think it better to
let them get the current code settled before asking for support of 15
year old Visio Technical v5.0 code/diagram-format.

I would not mind to try to support Visio 5.0 file-format. Nevertheless a 
collection of documents is not enough for us to understand how the file-format 
is working.

You know that there is no documentation whatsoever for the binary file-formats, 
so what we need is an application that is generating those documents so that we 
can experiment with it.

So, the deal is: Get to me a pre-Microsoft Visio that generates version 5 
diagrams natively and I will do my best to add that file-format to libvisio.

For the time being, though, only MS Visio 2000 and later is supported.

Cheers

Fridrich

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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem installing in xubuntu

2012-01-21 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/21/2012 05:06 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 21/01/12 15:26, drew wrote:

On Sat, 2012-01-21 at 15:45 +0100, Joep L. Blom wrote:

I got the version LO 3.4.5 from the official Lo site
(LibO_3.4.5_Linux_x86-64_helppack-deb_nl.tar.gz). I installed it
using sud dpkg -i *.DEB (after unpacking and going to the correct
directory. It installed correct in /opt/libreoffice. However no
links were placed in Applications/Office. The only method to run
soffice or writer is to go into the /opt/libreoffice/program
directory and start from there. How do I get the
Applications/Office tab populated? and why doesn't it work
automatically.


Howdy Joep,

In the directory where you installed the *.DEB packages from you
will also find the directory 'desktop-integration', switch into this
directory and re-issue the same dpkg -i command - the menu shortcuts
will be all setup for you.

...and next time you might want to use dpkg -iR /DEBS from the 
immediately superior directory to the DEBS one. From direct experience 
I know it installs LO correctly with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and my 
personal preference, Lubuntu. ;-)


Peter HB


I never used the -iR
It is not listed that way in the Linux install documentation, or it did 
not the last time I copied the instructions from LO's site.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/19/2012 11:26 PM, kholis wrote:

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jay Lozierjsloz...@gmail.com  wrote:

AFAIK there are no patches available to update LO from an older version to a
newer version. If downloading is your only option (see below) I might only
update about 12 - 18 months from one major version to the next (3.4 to 3.5).


I dont mind to download any major release in big size. But minor
release always teasing me to update :p
Unfortunately with same size. :(


There are a couple of CD/DVD packages available, semi-officially, from
various national groups. I know there is a North American DVD available.

Where are you? You might check with your local user group for the
availability of a CD/DVD


Indonesia. I'm using ADSL connnection.


What OS are you using? Which version are you using? These might help us make
a better suggestion.

Ubuntu 11.10 with LO 3.4.4.
Maybe I better to wait next major release to update my LibreOffice :)

Thanks Jay.

Thats out for me to send him a North American DVD.  USA to Malta was 
about $10.  But maybe if I do not include a DVD case it would make it 
cost less.  Hopefully there will be some online store in your region of 
the world that can send you DVDs filled with all the install files and 
the goodies you will need to use LibreOffice in your country.


Honestly, 3.4.5 is now out.  3.5.0 will be out soon, and 3.4.6 is a 
little after that.  I would not go to the 3.5.x line till 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 
is you have download cost issues.


The current NA-DVD is 3.4.4, as shown at
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/install.html
with the link for its ISO at
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.4/libo3.4.4-NA-DVD-WLM-Dec-3-2011.iso

I will be updating the NA-DVD to 3.4.5 next week, after I download all 
80+ install files, help packs, and language packs that takes 1.7 gig of 
the 3.6 gig DVD.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/20/2012 04:08 AM, Tom wrote:

Hi :)

I am still using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and i am fairly sure quite a lot of other
people are too.  It still does everything i want and more.  It still beats
MS Office 2010 by quite a long way especially on lower spec machines and
when i need to move images around smoothly in any direction.

Even with the security issues around java i feel a LOT safer with an 'old'
LO than i ever felt with a 'new' MS Office.
Regards from
Tom :)


Well, you might find 3.4.4 worth installing.  It does work better with 
those pesky .docx files, than 3.3.2 does.  That is one of the reasons I 
keep updating.  I have some idiots that insist on using .docx files and 
all their [the idiots] weird graphics on simple 2-3 page documents.  I 
think they must be frustrated artists, or something.


I agree with the feeling of being safer with LO over MSO.  I switched to 
Ubuntu as my main OS for the safety aspect, and the ability to find free 
software, where it would cost a lot to get the stuff on Windows.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I save all my hidden dot folders, like .libreoffice and .mozilla, 
every month or so, and before I update LibreOffice to the next one.  
This is for Ubuntu, but can be done with Windows versions of these 
folders as well.


Actually you should do this for your Mozilla [Firefox and Thunderbird] 
user info folders so you can save all you browser 
setting/site-password/bookmarks/etc and your email account info, address 
book, and non-deleted emails.  This will/could save you a lot of trouble 
down the line.


Any time you do some fixing for LO or OOo, you need to save the 
current user info/account/etc. folders BEFORE you do the work.  This way 
if things go very wrong, you can go back to the original user info to 
try again.  Actually I find removing the .libreoffice for Ubuntu [by 
renaming] or equivalent in other OSs, and then opening LO, it views it 
as a first time use after a clean install.  This does fix a lot of 
pesky things that creep up from time to time, like printer issues.


.
On 01/20/2012 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Make sure you rename the current profile jic something weird goes wrong!!
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 20/1/12, Ian Samsoniansams...@gmail.com  wrote:

From: Ian Samsoniansams...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer 
settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 17:26

Brilliant suggestion, Tom. Many thanks for this advice. I will do this on
all 3 of my machines, all running different OS - XP-Home, Vista 64, Vista
32 Business.

I'm sure to report back once I have done this and tested the result.


* Ian D. Samsonhttp://www.lp2cd.za.net/index.htm*




On 20 January 2012 18:15, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:


Hi :)
Just copypaste or rename the OOo UserProfile from
... openoffice.org/ ...
to
... libreoffice/ ...

You can even copy the user profile to different machines running different
operating systems.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles
All your settings and Extensions and galleries and stuff is stored inside
your user-profile.  Note that if you have other OpenSOurce programs then
their settings are stored in the same folder so you will see things like
... firefox/ ...
... libreoffice/ ...
... thunderbird/ ...
Well, after switching your file-browser to show hidden filesfolders you
will see them.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Ian Samsoniansams...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec
Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:59

That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


2012/1/20 Maurice Bateymaur...@bcs.org.uk


On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:


The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
will be (mostly) imported.

   Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
Office).

What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I have several email address.
One I use for e-newsletters, another for email lists like this one, 
while others for other specific things, etc.

So I do not need to do forwarding.

Are they forwarding the emails since they do not want their regular 
email address available through list services like this one?  The 
solution is to go to other services, such as Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc., 
etc..  It is always good to have a few throw away email accounts and 
use one for email lists.


That is just my opinion.

On 01/20/2012 04:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sadly that was tried but many people use 1 email address for subscribing and then forwards mail from that to another one and read it there so the unsubscribe email address wouldn't act on the right address. 
Regards from

Tom :)


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Simple! Just replace the link to the *instructions* e-mail for a link to the
actual *unsubscribe* e-mail.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Illogical installer!

2012-01-19 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/18/2012 12:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-18 8:49 AM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

Am 18.01.2012 13:22, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

Can anyone tell me the logic in this?
If I download the English UK version, if I select Custom install, then
ALL the language packs are disabled apart from English, yet all the
dictionaries are ENABLED and I have to go through however many
dictionaries there are and disable them one by one (unless anyone can
tell me a better way!).
Surely logic says that if all the language packs are disabled by 
default

other than the one for the relevant download, then all the dictionaries
should be as well?



There is no need to enable or disable anything. You can write (and spell
check) English text with Russian figures in a Chinese GUI.
GUI language, numeric default locale and default text language are
completely independent from each other. Each snippet of text, each table
cell, field, input box and what else can be used in its own language
context.


And for those of us who don't speak 2, 3 or 10 different languages, 
and only need *one*?


Gordon: it is a little easier to first disable the entire Dictionary 
category (rather than doing each language individually), then expand 
it and select only the desired language.


And I agree with your complaint, but there is something else that bugs 
me even more...


From a previous email of mine:

On 2011-08-31 12:46 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 Ok, this is really nuts...

 Before I go open up a bug about this, can anyone tell me why, if I
 deselect all dictionaries except the one I need, who, in the Windows
 Add/Remove Programs Support Info dialog, does it insist on showing it
 with ALL languages, thus causing the support info window to be even
 wider than my 24 1920x1080 is capable of displaying in its entirety?

and two minutes later I posted the exact same question as the OP...


I think the default should be if you do a custom install, the only 
dictionary in the list should match the language the user chooses.  It 
should be an easier way to do this.


I did not like the process it took to install a custom English install 
and not include all of the other language dictionaries.  I do not think 
that installing 20 or 30 non-English dictionaries BY DEFAULT is the best 
way to go.  For an English user, I do not want to see my Extension 
Manager list so filled with unused languages that I have a difficult 
time finding the extensions I did install or want to enable/disable from 
time to time.  Many English users might be turned off by this.


For a Windows user, having all these language packs and non-English 
dictionaries include with their download install file may be go or bad, 
but it should not be the default to install.  Also, if you do have the 
language packs include, why do you have to download the help packs 
separately?  It does not make sense.


Maybe Windows installs should be like Linux's version.  If you want any 
other language than English [and maybe no more than 5 others] you would 
need to download separate language and help packs for them.  Linux users 
have to do this.  It might be better to have Windows users do this as 
well.  Maybe there could be a download option to automatically create a 
download list for all of the language packs and help packs that the user 
requests.  That way he/she downloads only the languages they want or 
need.  The difference in file size could be 30 to 50 MB, but there might 
be a better solution than what is going on now.


I think that it should not be the default to install all of those 
dictionaries and language packs if the user does not use a custom 
install.  You should make it clear what is being installed by default so 
the user can make an informed choice.  Then make the custom install 
process easier and more intuitive to use.  If it is not easy for a users 
with 20 years of experience in installing software to do the process, 
how easy will it be for user with little experience at installing 
his/hers own software?


We need to make the process simpler. Period.
We need to make the default be something other than installing 30 
languages over English. Period.

We need to make custom installs easier to do. Period.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Writer - pages and page count.

2012-01-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Was the original question involving a professional service that would 
print many copies of the document and do a professional binding?  If so, 
then printing on your own printer is not an option here.


I would not want to print out 20 copies of a 300 page document [150 
sheets of paper each] on my laser printer, which is no a duplex 
printer.  I would not print out a single copy on my duplex inkjet 
printer either.


It is all about the scale of the print job and the professional looking 
binding.  That is what seems to me the issue here.  The person needs the 
blank pages at the end of his document to fit the needs of his 
Professional Printing Service.  He is not going to do the printing at 
home, where he can just add unprinted sheets to the stack of paper 
coming off his printer.


Sure, there are a lot of printers that can do two-sided printing or 
odd/even printing, but that was not the issue here.  I bought a duplex 
inkjet to save money on paper.  I would like a duplex laser printer as 
well.  But I would never use my printers to do a production run for 
large page count documents.  I would use a print-on-demand service or a 
local printing service for those production runs.


Would you want to print off 500 double sided brochures for a LO table at 
a show yourself?  Or would you try to get a deal at a printer's place.  
Just folding them to be a tri-fold brochure, with paper creased already 
at the folding lines, is too much for me to think about.


It all comes down to the scale of printing and how professional the 
folding/binding/covers are to be.


He is needing the professional look, in my opinion, and needs the final 
PDF file to have the extra blank pages at the end of the document.  That 
was the issue, and that is what we needed to give an answer to.


Is there a way to Export-to-PDF or print-to-PDF using internal document 
controls to create the blank pages with no header or footers?  If not 
then he will have to use some external PDF editing software to insert 
blank pages at the end of the document.  Hopefully someone knows how to 
add/remove/change the header and footer text after a certain point in 
the document.  I remember using some word processor many years ago that 
allowed that.  Just go to page 55 and edit the footer showing on that 
page and it will be the original one on pages 1 thru 49 and the new one 
on 50 thru the next change or the end of the document.  If that type of 
thing has been removed due to document file format issues, then it needs 
to be put back in.


So does any one know how to change the footer to a different text option 
after 50 pages or so and keep the original footer for the first 50 
pages?  He needs this for the creation of a PDF file, not a paper 
version. That is the question here, and not if/how a printer can print 
his document by some two sided printing method.


On 01/18/2012 05:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
True :))  You have to do a quick test run with 1 or 2 pages just to make sure which way you have to put the paper back in just in case your printer is weird.  Also make sure that no-one else prints to 'your' printer when you are doing the even pages.  I have been in quite a few offices where people would delight in saving-up their print-jobs until someone tried doing something like this purely in order to create confusion and make a fuss. 
Regards from

Tom :)


--- On Wed, 18/1/12, Ian Whitfieldwhitfi...@telkomsa.net  wrote:

From: Ian Whitfieldwhitfi...@telkomsa.net
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Writer - pages and page count.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 January, 2012, 9:49

On 01/17/2012 06:20 PM, Sylvia Schmidt wrote:

True two-sided printing requires a more expensive printer because the

paper feed is more complex. In the US the only two-sided printers I
have seen are larger office copier/printer combinations; most of the
desktop printers print one-sided.

Many people do not have a printer capable of true two-sided printing
because most home and office printers are designed for one-sided
printing. They print one sheet straight through and can not reverse feed
to print automatically on the reverse side. The paper feed is much
simpler, hence less expensive and should be more reliable.

Being an ex-Printer man for one of the large Printer Manufactures I have to 
point out the following, (which over the years I have found very few users know about).

You do _NOT_ need a more expensive Duplex Printer to produce Double-sided 
printouts!! Almost all print routines have the option to control what prints 
out in any print job. So ..

First set-up your print job to print 'Odd pages only';
Take these pages, turn them over and put them back into the paper tray;
Now set-up the print job to print 'Even pages only'.

And there you have it - A Double-sided printout from a single page printer!! 
Easy.

Ian Whitfield
Pretoria.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Writer - pages and page count.

2012-01-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/18/2012 05:52 AM, Sylvia Schmidt wrote:

Okay, from the top: Yes, I'm using linux - Ubuntu 11.10.

I've talked to the printing company and they said it should be real 
blank pages as the backs. I do not know why exactly, it has something 
to do with the binding and the 4 pages printout used. (There aren't 
that many companies around here that will print and bind books as 
hardcovers with only three copies. If the company wasn't recommended 
by my university I probably would have chosen a different one.)


I even know how to get that using Indesign, but Indesign is a real 
pain as a 'writing tool'. So I thought I'd try something else... I 
didn't even think of changing the finished pdf, but that's a great 
idea! I'll look into your suggestions. Thank you for that.





They print a 4 pages on each side of the sheet of paper and use the 
equipment to fold, cut, and bind them to make the physical 
document/book/etc.  Modern hardcover novels, using the large print 
companies, end up printing 16 pages per side of a sheet-block on a 
web-press.  Then these sheets are printed on each side [32 page faces at 
a time] then take these folded groups and have a machine merge each 
32-page group together to make the 400 - 1000 page hardcover, and even 
mass-paperback books.  This is a standard printing method, instead of 
printing a single 2 sided page at a time.  It is easier to bind the 
32-page group than the single double-sided pages as well.  Easier for 
printing and cost less in the long run.


That is why the blank pages; to fill the rest of the large size, 
multi-page, sheets.  They want the author to do this, not their people.  
They do not want to edit your PDF file.  Print-on-demand companies, like 
Lulu.com are do the same, but to a lesser degree.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Writer - pages and page count.

2012-01-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/17/2012 06:39 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 18/01/2012 at 00:20, Sylvia Schmidtsylvia.schm...@jielo.de  wrote:


thank you for the suggestion but that is one way that doesn't work for
me - because, I have to create a pdf which will be printed by a company
that will also bind the book.

Within the pdf the back pages have to be blanks in order to be printed
correctly.

I am pretty sure that this should be done at printer-level and not document-
level. Can't you just tell them that they should print it one-sided and leave
right page blank?

Let's consider that you can't. If you are using Linux (and by your User-Agent
I can tell that you do), you can use pdftk (check in your distribution
repository) to insert blank page after each page of your continuously numbered
document. A little scripting may be needed, as well as empty PDF, but it
should be very difficult to achieve.

Maybe there are similar tools for Windows as well, I don't know.
I thought there might be a way to turn-off a page numbering option in 
a Footer after most of the document uses that format.  Can you change 
the footer's text later in the document without it reseting the earlier 
pages?


As for inserting blank PDF pages, there are many free PDF editing 
packages Windows/Linux that you can combine/merge 2 or more PDF 
documents.  I remember seeing them a few months ago during my last 
Windows PDF editing search.  If not free, the costs are small if you 
need to do this many times.  I would create a document with the needed 
blank pages and merge in to the end of your PDF document.  I merged 2 
PDF documents early last year on my Linux system, but I do not remember 
what package I used.


The back pages is different from the back of the pages.  I see many 
books that are printed that use blank pages for the last few 
pages/sheets in the books.  Tech books more often than pleasure reading 
types.  It is part of the printer's processing.  Also some must have 
even number of page sides so you do not end with front side of the page 
and do not show or print a back side of that page when it goes into a 
2-sided printer.  I have one and sometimes that issue messes me up with 
multiple copies of 2-sided document printing.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Latest version?

2012-01-06 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/06/2012 11:05 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
snip

Staying on the subject, the download page is confusing, advertising two
final versions, without hinting at the differences.

F.

OK, this is more like a question that needs a good answer.

3.3.4 and 3.4.4 are both listed as final versions.
What it should be included, besides the date, is what those two versions 
represents.


3.3.4 is the last of that line.  It is a stable release that some 
people use for the business version of LO.


3.4.4 is the current line, with 1 or 2 version left of that line.  It 
was used as the cutting edge line/version for LO when the 3.3.x line 
was still being worked on.


I would love to see some better descriptions for each final version of 
LO.  When 3.5.0 comes out, will there be 3 final versions listed?


As of Feb 14th 2012 there should be the following final version out - 
with final being the current versions that are not in RC status.

3.3.4
3.4.5
3.5.0

That will make it even more confusing for people.

How about
3.3.4 - Business version - the old reliable version
3.4.4 / 3.4.5 - Personal version and cutting edge business version
3.5.0 - must cutting edge version for experiments.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer driver, page size and 3.4.4 in Lion

2012-01-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/04/2012 06:04 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:

In articlebob-825ce2.18521203012...@news.gmane.org,
  Robert Peirceb...@peirce-family.com  wrote:


I have a 4x6 card I need to print.  In other apps I just select 4x6.  In
LibreOffice I need to go into Paper Handling, click scale to fit
paper size before I can select the 4x6 size.  When I do that, the print
size is reduced to the point of being almost unreadable.

I want to select 4x6 without changing the font size.  In Preview and
similar apps the page size is selected in the main print screen and you
don't have to go into Paper Handling.

I used LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) before to print these cards but now
it isn't working.

I found a work-around.  The printer driver doesn't have 4x6, but it has
a #10 envelope, which is 4.13 but longer than 6.  By adjusting the
document to shift the material by 1/8 I can get it to print correctly.
I then have to remember to change the printer driver back to letter!

This is a real kludge but I don't have to do it very often.  The obvious
solution is for Apple to include a 4x6 setting in its driver or for
LibreOffice to set the page size in its print dropdown.  The latter is
better since the driver will automatically reset to letter.

What printer are you using?

Was its printer specs showing the 4x6 card as one of its supported media 
types?


If not then that is the issue.  If there is 4x6 as one of the printer's 
supported media, then it must be the driver.


As for LibreOffice setting the page size, I did state that with defining 
the size of the page in the document with FormatPage created a 4x6 page 
and then my HP Color Laser printer defaulted to that size, but called it 
a photo card, not a post card.  So on a Ubuntu 10.04 system and a HP 
laser printer, it works fine.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Latest version?

2012-01-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I have this page bookmarked.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
It tells you the dated of each release and the dates of the future releases.

out now
3.3.4 - published in the week [33] of August 15th to the 21st, 2011
3.4.4 - published in the week [45] of November 7th to the 13th, 2011

to come
3.4.5 - to be published in the week [2] of January 9th to the 15th, 2012
3.4.6 - to be published in March if it is not skipped.
3.5.0 - to be published in the week [6] of February 6th to 12th, 2012

I personally use 3.4.4, but I know people that still tell you that 
businesses should use 3.3.4.

I run Ubuntu/Linux and Windows XP and Vista.

On 01/05/2012 08:41 AM, Pedro wrote:

Version 3.4.4 is the latest stable version.

If you would like to try a Pre-release version you can go to

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

WARNING: Beta versions are installed in parallel but RC (Release Candidate)
versions OVERWRITE your stable version. Obviously RC versions are more
stable and without any major bugs but they might have regressions in
features that you need.

If you do install any of these builds and find some bug or regression please
do report it at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Printer driver, page size and 3.4.4 in Lion

2012-01-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Then how do Mac people print their own photos on the 4x6 photo paper?  
We can do that with Windows and Linux.


Mac computers were advertised as the best for graphic processing, but if 
they cannot print the graphic/photos to their proper size media, then 
something it terribly wrong.


I have to problems with printing to the small photo paper media with my 
Ubuntu and Windows versions for LO.


On 01/05/2012 12:20 PM, Dominik Wnęk wrote:

In Linux, whenever I print to non-A4-sized paper (usually envelopes), the paper size in 
printer settings is, usually automatically, set to Manual. This generally 
produces correct output.

On the Mac, not only is there no option to set paper size in the Print dialog, but there 
is no Manual paper size setting.

I don't know if the Manual paper size comes from the system or LO/OOo, but it 
is sorely missed on the Mac side :-)

Dominik Wnęk

Dnia 5 sty 2012 o godz. 17:42 Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.com  napisał(a):


On 2012-01-05 10:16 AM  webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

As for LibreOffice setting the page size, I did state that with defining the size 
of the page in the document with FormatPage created a 4x6 page and then my HP 
Color Laser printer defaulted to that size, but called it a photo card, not a post 
card.  So on a Ubuntu 10.04 system and a HP laser printer, it works fine.

It does not work on Macs. Setting Format/Page to  4x6 or Envelope #10 print to 
letter size printer on both my Brother laser and Canon InkJet printers. There 
is no option in the print dialogue to choose the paper size.

There have been serious problems for Mac printing in OOo (LibreOffice has 
inherited them) since OOo 3.0 . Every upgrade and fix has created new or 
modified problems.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer driver, page size and 3.4.4 in Lion

2012-01-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Have you tried to set the page size to 4x6?

FormatPage
instead of letter size in the drop box, go to User
then set the size to 4 x 6 inches and the margins
to the smallest your printer will allow.

I did this and created a 4x6 page and went to Print
and selected my laser printer

it showed the 4x6 card in the media type for printing.

So did you define your page to the 4x6 inch card?

I wonder if there is a technical name for it, like A4 or B2?

If I tried to print it to a PDF file [not export to PDF] using
CUPS-PDF, it defaulted to an envelope size, not the card size.

On 01/03/2012 06:52 PM, Robert Peirce wrote:

I have a 4x6 card I need to print.  In other apps I just select 4x6.  In
LibreOffice I need to go into Paper Handling, click scale to fit
paper size before I can select the 4x6 size.  When I do that, the print
size is reduced to the point of being almost unreadable.

I want to select 4x6 without changing the font size.  In Preview and
similar apps the page size is selected in the main print screen and you
don't have to go into Paper Handling.

I used LibreOffice (or OpenOffice) before to print these cards but now
it isn't working.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] problem downloading LibreOffice 3.4.4

2012-01-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


To download and install English LibreOffice and the Japanese language 
pack, go to:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Go down to the green drop boxes and make sure you see/choose Windows in 
one and the Japanese language in the other.


If there is any problems doing that, go down farther and choose Other 
way to download . . ..


Then choose 3.4.4, then Windows.  Click on the Helppacks to go down to 
the Japanese one.


Here are the direct links, to the Windows download and the the help pack .
[if I got the language code correct]
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.4/win/x86/LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe

(ja - ???)
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.4/win/x86/LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_helppack_ja.exe

The question of gibberish:
Could there be some font issues where there is not default English 
system font and the English text is written in using the Japanese glyphs 
that are in the font instead of the English letters?  I do not know 
enough about the Japanese fonts, but I did see one or two that did just 
that, though most of the fonts I use for foreign languages are Unicode 
so the Japanese fonts are somewhere else.


On 01/02/2012 10:22 PM, Brian Barbour wrote:

I am located in Tokyo with a Japanese laptop.  The installer recognized my 
system (Windows) and the language as Japanese, but when the dialogue boxes 
openned up to install, the instructions in the dialogue boxes were written in 
gibberish with random symbols, and they were therefore unreadable.  I simply 
clicked on the button where cancel would be and cancelled out.  Can you let me 
know what I did wrong and how to download LibreOffice with the English and 
Japanese language packs.  (I would like to have all drop down menus and help 
menus in English with the ability to use it both in English and Japanese).
  
Thank you,

Brian



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Re: [libreoffice-users] fonts?

2012-01-03 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


What I know about them is from what I learned over the years finding and 
collecting them.  I have over 100,000 of them stored on my data drive.  
I do not go after non-English fonts, but I have downloaded a few and 
some of them replace the Latin letters with their own glyphs.  I 
prefer the Unicode method, where there are many different languages on 
one font at the same time, but all in its own place after the standard 
Latin letters section.


To know what other language and glyphs you have beside you English 
keyboard fonts, use the InsertSpecial Characters option.


Most fonts do not have more than Basic Latin, Latin-1, Latin Extended-A, 
and Latin Extended-B.  Unicode fonts - like Arial Unicode has many 
language/font names listed beyond the Latin scripts/glyphs//letters.  
Spanish and French use Latin-1 to Latin Extended-B ones for their 
non-English letters.


There are many Unicode fonts, but I do not remember seeing any of them 
with more glyphs than Arial Unicode MS.  There may be language specific 
Unicode fonts that have Latin plus their language, in its proper place 
within the Unicode glyph placement, but you would have to look.  I do 
not know the names of the non-English language fonts.  I do know there 
are place out there to find them.  A few months back, this list helped a 
person with Korean fonts for their system.  I downloaded them at that 
time.  If anyone knows of the different font names for the Japanese 
fonts, [the English/Latin form of the name]let me know.  I will try to 
find them.


On 01/03/2012 08:50 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Brilliant!!  I think you are right about the font being the problem.  I think 
we have had this problem a couple of times before in other languages mostly 
with non-RTL scripts.  Now we just need someone that knows a lot about fonts!
Regards from
Tom :)


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Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] problem downloading LibreOffice 3.4.4
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 3 January, 2012, 13:35


To download and install English LibreOffice and the Japanese language pack, go 
to:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Go down to the green drop boxes and make sure you see/choose Windows in one and 
the Japanese language in the other.

If there is any problems doing that, go down farther and choose Other way to 
download . . ..

Then choose 3.4.4, then Windows.  Click on the Helppacks to go down to the 
Japanese one.

Here are the direct links, to the Windows download and the the help pack .
[if I got the language code correct]
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.4/win/x86/LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_install_multi.exe

(ja - ???)
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.4.4/win/x86/LibO_3.4.4_Win_x86_helppack_ja.exe

The question of gibberish:
Could there be some font issues where there is not default English system 
font and the English text is written in using the Japanese glyphs that are in the font 
instead of the English letters?  I do not know enough about the Japanese fonts, but I did 
see one or two that did just that, though most of the fonts I use for foreign languages 
are Unicode so the Japanese fonts are somewhere else.

On 01/02/2012 10:22 PM, Brian Barbour wrote:

I am located in Tokyo with a Japanese laptop.  The installer recognized my 
system (Windows) and the language as Japanese, but when the dialogue boxes 
openned up to install, the instructions in the dialogue boxes were written in 
gibberish with random symbols, and they were therefore unreadable.  I simply 
clicked on the button where cancel would be and cancelled out.  Can you let me 
know what I did wrong and how to download LibreOffice with the English and 
Japanese language packs.  (I would like to have all drop down menus and help 
menus in English with the ability to use it both in English and Japanese).
Thank you,
Brian


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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help on my dictionaries for LibreOffice/OOo

2012-01-02 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

snip
On 01/01/2012 08:09 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

  Something to remember: the main dictionary for the language used by
LO is a binary file kept in the Installation folder. If a language pack
is added, this language is also binary and kept in the same place. These
are large files.
  User created dictionary files (.dic) are kept in the personal
settings folder. These are text files.
  Some time ago, someone asked about dictionary file sizes referring to
the user created .dic files. The reply was 22K or less per file seemed
like a good number. It was mentioned that OOo would not use a dictionary
file if it was too large.
   The dictionary files .dic) are text documents with
the first four lines very important as far as content is concerned.
Below is the first four lines for an English user created .dic file followed
by a German user created .dic file.

OOoUserDict1 OOoUserDict1
lang: en-US  ORlang: de-DE
type: positive   type: positive
---  ---
It appears like the second line is the one that has to be changed from
language to language. the letters before the hyphen are the language
(en,English; de, Deutch) and the letters afterward are the country
(US, USA; GB, Great Britain; etc.)
  But with the number of entries you have, you need to find some way
to make a binary file that LO can read as a .dic file. From what I remember
about the creation of the Austrialian dictionary, it is very time consuming
to create the binary files.

--Dan


Dan
Every dictionary .dic file that I looked at English/German/French/etc. 
for LibreOffice, and from OOo's own site, is shown as the following:

line 1:  the number of words in the list
line 2 through the end:  the list of words and any control codes

All of the dictionaries are in .oxt files and they are a type of archives.

The largest dictionary I have is Irish/Gaeilge, which is about 7 meg in 
size for the .oxt file, but the .dic file inside it is about 2 meg.  The 
Thesaurus and hyphenation files are most of the rest of the file size.


I do not know about any .oxt files that are in a binary format.  Maybe 
the .dic files are converted to a binary somewhere, but not in 
dictionary creator's end.


When using my dictionaries, I do not notice any slowing down of the 
loading process.  Even with all of my American English .oxt file 
enabled, plus the largest British English and Canadian English enabled.  
I do not know what binary conversion takes a long time, but I do not 
see it.


I have the the Australian .oxt file with the .dic file from 2008-12-15, 
also the Australian Medical dictionary with its .dic file from 
2008-07-01.  Neither .dic files are in a binary format.  When opened 
they are just an ASCII text file in an archived file.  There are control 
codes after some of the words in that .dic file, so maybe that was what 
too time to create - words and their control codes.


Here is a link to the English dictionary section and Australian is the 
first ones listed.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html#english

Now, I have large word lists in my .dic files.  6.4 meg for the 638K 
word size.  But there is no control codes in my .dic files except the 
top line stating the number of words in the list.


Now, I offer several word list sizes for my dictionaries; 98K, 217K, 
390K, and 638K words, with no 98K for Canada since I did not have a word 
list [yet] that size to use for one.  So if the user wants to use the 
98K word list for their spelling words, they can do it.  There is the 
638K word list dictionary since someone on this list asked me for a 
dictionary with the largest word list that I had.  I asked before I made 
them.


As for seeing these in the .dic files I got from the OOo dictionary 
list, sorry I did not see them.

   OOoUserDict1 OOoUserDict1
   lang: en-US  ORlang: de-DE
   type: positive   type: positive

Maybe they are are created in the folder that they reside in after 
LO/OOo loads them up through the Extension Manager.  I know that I used 
some of these dictionaries when I used OOo 3.x.x and they were still 
500K or more for the .dic files then.


There is a 8074 word list with a .dic file of 87.9KB.  How many words 
would be in a 22K .dic file?  Where did you get that 22K size info?  I 
went to the .libreoffice hidden folder [Ubuntu 10.04] and not one of the 
.dic files listed there are anyway near that 22K size.  Most are in the 
1 to 3 MB range.


I did a lot of looking into what documentation I could find for creating 
a language dictionary, and nowhere did I find any info about file sizes 
and converting the .dic files to a binary format.  I know binary as 
something other than a file that shows the actual text of the file in 
a text editor.  I have seen true binary files when I had to program in 
Assembly and C.  The resulting files ended up 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Python info for a new learner

2011-12-30 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Thanks

The need for Python was to recreate text file and word list manipulation 
utilities I created at least 4 years ago in C++ and somehow lost 
them.  I did not want to re-learn C++ since Python was said to be much 
easier.


Actually this morning was the first time I ran a script on Ubuntu.  
The set options look easier than I remember with C++.  Also, the line 
by line interpretor instead a full compile works well for me with 
debugging.


I am using Kate, for now, as my Python editor.  It has the text color 
highlighting and it notified my of a line that was needed:  # -*- 
coding: utf-8 -*- .


Right now I am waiting on three used Python books.

Learning Python, Second Edition
Programming Python Programming Python
[some call it volume 2 of the Learning Python book]
Python Standard Library (Nutshell Handbooks)

The second seemed to be a learning the Standard Library type of book.  
I will need a basic learning book and a book that details what is needed 
in the Standard Library to get the work done.


All of this is geared to my Dictionary project for LibreOffice.
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries

On 12/30/2011 01:49 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:

Take a lazy weekend and walk through
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
All you need is a text editor and a shell. A Python capable text editor
provides some window where you can dump debugging output. Linux users who
are familiar with vim or emacs already found their personal IDE for Python.

Regarding the office suite, all you need is a slightly deeper understanding
of the context you are coding in:
http://www.openoffice.org/udk/python/python-bridge.html
1) Macros called from within the office:
ThisComponent=XSCRIPTCONTEXT.getDocument()
2) Contacting a running office on port 2002 from your Python program and
getting all the office objects to start with:
import uno
localContext = uno.getComponentContext()
resolver = localContext.ServiceManager.createInstanceWithContext(
 com.sun.star.bridge.UnoUrlResolver, localContext
)
ctx =
resolver.resolve(uno:socket,host=localhost,port=2002;urp;StarOffice.ComponentContext
)
oDesktop=ctx.ServiceManager.createInstanceWithContext(com.sun.star.frame.Desktop,ctx)
oFrame=oDesktop.getCurrentFrame()
oView=0Frame.getController()
ThisComponent=0View.getModel()

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20t=22431
Forum topic about Macro IDE for Python
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45t=22904p=104656
Emacs + Python + Office
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=59534 Cell functions in
Python scripts (called through Basic)
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=59580 Desparately missing
MsgBox in Python
Search anything python related by author DannyB on oooforum.org

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[libreoffice-users] need help on my dictionaries for LibreOffice/OOo

2011-12-30 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I need some guidance with the extent of my dictionary files for 
LibreOffice and OOo.


My largest dictionaries are about 638,000 words in the spelling word 
.dic file.  I need to know how large it too large.


I found out this morning that if I compare that word list with a 
combined list for chemical and medical words, over 98,000 words from 
that combined list is not in the current .dic word list[s].


Now here it the issue, how far should I take this project?

I am going to add all the missing words that are part of the 
open-source community's lexicon that are not in the current lists, but 
where do I stop, and how should I format the finalized files?


Should there be one super large list, or should I break it up into 
sub-lists?  Should the standard words go into one .dic file, while 
medical, chemistry, and computer/tech words each have their own .dic 
file within the .oxt file?


Right now, there is an English dictionary [default one?] that includes 
US, British, Canadian, and some other versions of English put together 
as one .oxt file, but separate .dic files.  I was wondering if that 
would be the route I should go with my super-size dictionaries.


To be honest, 20 years ago the spelling dictionary project I was working 
on has about 177,000 words and I was told that the English language was 
about 250,000 words.  Now I have looked at a combined word list and it 
has about 737K words in it and there are more words/terms still needing 
to be checked.  The largest book style dictionary now has 25+ volumes to 
it when it was only 15 about 15-20 years ago.  So I really think the 
final super-sized dictionary word list could one day go over one million 
in the next year or two.  I just have to figure out if it is worth 
building a list for LO to that size.


Your input would help me make the best US, British, and Canadian English 
dictionaries out there for LibreOffice.  This is for our users to use, 
so it would be nice for users to let me know what they think.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Python info for a new learner

2011-12-28 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

snip
On 12/27/2011 12:48 PM, doug wrote:
There is a free book called Snake Wrangling for Kids, Learning to 
Program with Python,  by Jason R.
Briggs. It's not just for kids, and it doesn't talk down.  
Downloadable.  There are apparently two
current versions of Python, ver 2.x and 3.x.  The books are slightly 
different, so see what version of
Python you're going to use, and get the correct book.  150 pages, 
including an index--use your duplex

printer!

(I'm running PCLinuxOS, and the current repo has both versions of 
Python available.)


The book I have says Linux Edition--I downloaded it from a Linux 
machine.  There must be another
edition for some other OS, don't know what.  I don't remember the URL, 
you'll have to Google for it.
The introduction in Chapter 1 indicates that there might also be a 
print version--maybe O'Reilly?


--doug

Thanks for the info.  It does not look like the site I found was updated 
since 2009.


I have Python 2.x and 3.x loaded on my Ubuntu 10.04 desktop and I will 
use 2.7.2? on my XP and Vista laptops.  I was told that more things 
support 2.7.x, but I could be wrong.


I wonder what version of Python LibreOffice is written in?  I will have 
to switch to that after my initial learning of Python.


I was asked the question about would I be interested in helping the Dev 
project with some simple Python stuff.  If I decide to really learn 
beyond my needs for Python, I will see how complex the programming is 
before I decide to get in to Python that far.  I have not done any real 
programming in years, and complex programming in 15-20 years.  That 
complex stuff was before my last two strokes.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Brand new installation of Libreoffice 3.4.4 places a large folder on desktop! What to do with it!

2011-12-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


The install process places a folder on your desktop that is the result 
of the uncompressing of the install files.  This can be deleted since it 
was only needed during the installation of LibreOffice.


I believe the reason for placing this file/folder on the desktop allows 
you to see where the uncompressed install files/folder is so you would 
not have to search for it to be able to delete it.


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Am I reading you correctly that you removed Java completely from your 
computer?  If so why?  There is still a need for Java with LibreOffice 
and some of its extensions.  There was some indications that there were 
issues with the latest version of Java, so many of us are using older 
version of the JRE on our Windows systems.  I use version 22 on my Vista 
laptop.


As for switching from OOo to LO, I did that in the spring.

Which languages did you install with your package?

Here is a link to all the language dictionaries I have found.  Also, 
here [and in the LO Extension Center] is a link to the English spell 
checking dictionary[s] with the largest spelling word lists.  638,000+ 
words in the American, British, and Canadian word lists.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html

Remember, most of the OOo extensions will work with LO.

On 12/24/2011 02:48 AM, D Chandrasekar wrote:

Dear Sirs,

This evening, I made the final decision. I unistalled OOO 3.3, Java 22
that OOO had placed on its own, and Java 29 I had downloaded and
installed separately. Cleanted everything out in directories left
behind, restarted a few times, regeditd and cleaned all residuals, Ran
chkdsk and let it clean any rwsiduals indices, etc. Defragmented
several times. With no Java in XP SP3 IE8 fully updated machine with
no Java in it now )to hopefully let LO 3.4.4 work without java
dependecies now or later when new Java versions are installed and old
version ones removed times), fresh clean installed LO 3.4.4. It went
smoothly with my added 3 languages.

Restarted several times doing some new writer document making,
editing, copy-pasting, spell cheks, etc. First time it did not do
spell check but displayed all correct. I oked. Then copy pasted
additional rtped lines (from another WordPerfect 10 yes old version
just for such situations here!) and did spell check. Now it worked ok!
Interesting. Closed it restarted. Did the same additional lines copy
pasting from a text document and spell check worked.

Then I when all desktop windows were closed, I saw there was a folder
LibreOffice 3.4 (4eb10e5c) Installation Files! Inside there was a cab
file of 180MB+ and a Installer of name LibreOffice 3.4.msi of 4200 KB
size, and a Setup.exe of 457 KB size, two more folders named  readmes
and redest, a setup.ini file of 3 KB size, and numerous languages
after-suffixed trans_af.,st etc etc files. Ubsude the Readmes folder,
there were similar numerous languages suffied txt files. The redst
folder has two vcredest_x64.exe and vcredest_x86.exe files.

I read the US ENgilish text file.

Why and how these important files have been placed in the desktop
location!?!?!? Was this folder misplaced? Do I have to move them
manually to some other location in Explorer Directory somewhere, and
If I did so, will it be working okay and properly recognized by the
system ane LibreOffice?

Please advice at your earliest convenience.




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