Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-11 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Marc, 

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:24:01 -0500
Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

 Le 2011-02-10 05:06, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :

[...]

 Hi Sigrid:
 
 I wasn't sure who to leave this with. Could you also send along a note 
 to the German team that the included PhotoAlbum extension returns a 
 Basic error? So it is unusable as is. They may want to fix the problem 
 or exclude it from the pack. It is a shame as it is a really useful 
 extension. Note that I did not install LibreOffice 3.3 from the disc as 
 I had already installed it.
 
 Pass on my congratulations to the German team. A really excellent disc.
 
Done. :) I've forwarded your message as well. :) 
I am sure, that they will be very happy to read that it's an excellent disc. 
They've put quite a lot of work into it. 

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-11 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/11/2011 01:09 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:

Hi,

Did not see where the subject of the disc being produced by the North
American team (on the US Marketing mailing list) has been mentioned, I may
of missed it though.

For a reference on the ISO image please see this thread:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Pulling-a-disc-together-for-SCALE-td2391597.html

This has English, Spanish and French files.

That image is being updated to the current 3.3.1 RC1 and will be updated
again as the 3.3.1 release proceeds.

It is not available for download yet - but very quickly after the release of
3.3.1 it will be.

Still working on the wrapper for the DVD ( i.e what to autostart - simple
HTML interface) and will be doing that in earnest over these next few days
with collaboration on the that Mailing list - I encourage those interested
in this to come get involved this weekend. (will get into it first thing
Sat. morning on the list)

There is community branded DISC art work available also - works good with
press on labels.
see image here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/a/a5/Dvd-label-scale9x_3.png

Along with this is a tri-fold brochure, with the same branding, available
here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOPamphlet-feb_11.pdf

Thanks,

Drew Jensen


I did not know that there was any one else working on a English version 
DVD.  I would like to talk to the North American Team about what can 
or should be done for just a DVD of LibreOffice.


I am working on making an English-Only DVD for LibreOffice [at least for 
my area].  I have the 32 and 64 bit DEB and RPM installs, plus both Mac 
installs,  along with Windows.  I added en-US, en-GB, and en-ZA language 
and help packs.  Since my documents, templates, and other stuff is in 
English, I did not add any other language packs to this disc.


I have a folder with many different templates, one with clipart and 
images. and one with extensions.  I want to go over my selections for 
many of the clipart, extensions, and templates, to decide which ones I 
really want to have on this DVD.


The documentation folder is as follows:
0100-LibreOffice--Getting-Started
0100-OpenOffice--Getting-Started
0200-LibreOffice--Writer-Guide--word-processor
0200-OpenOffice--Writer-Guide--word-processor
0300-OpenOffice--Calc-Guide--spreadsheet
0400-OpenOffice--Draw-Guide--drawing-package
0500-OpenOffice--Impress-Guide--presentation
0800-OpenOffice--Math-Guide--equation-editor

plus a folder of some Base documents, plus a few other PDFs that have 
documents.  I did figure on having a script saying that LO writers were 
also OOo writers and  until LO documents get finished, OOo's version 
will work for now.


I want to create some HTML document[s] that will help users install the 
packages for their platforms.  I do not know much about Mac or RPM 
installs, so I will need help with that part.  I would be nice to have 
some detailed walk-though instructions for installation, such as 
installing a JRE before you install LibreOffice.  I have the latest one 
in the Windows folder.


The label you made for your discs are nice, but I do not have a ink-jet 
printer that prints directly onto the media.  I found that paper labels 
tend to bubble up after a period of time making the disc unusable [not 
safe to use in the reader].  I do use Light-Scribe but it is a long 
process to burn a monochrome label on a disc [16 to 25 minutes per disc 
for any good label].


As for going from the current version 3.3.0 to 3.3.1 or beyond, I just 
need to download the up-to-date installs and any changes to the help and 
language packs, the place them in the proper folder.  As more of the 
documentation gets done, I will add it as I find it available.


It would be nice to get farther along with this project, but with my 
injuries, etc., I cannot spend much time in front of my desktop doing 
all the things I want to do.  I hope to make the basic HTML file in the 
next few days.  I will be re-looking at all of the extensions available 
and decide what I want to include and make sure there is text with each 
one describing each one.  Then there is the templates and such.  I will 
have to make hard decisions on which to use and which are not going to 
be needed by those that will get the discs.  What I want and need may 
not be useful to others.


Tim L.
Elmira, NY, USA


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-11 Thread NoOp
On 02/11/2011 01:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/11/2011 10:09 AM, Drew Jensen wrote:
 ...
 Along with this is a tri-fold brochure, with the same branding, available
 here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOPamphlet-feb_11.pdf
 ...
 
 What's up with having the pdf open in full screen view mode? This really
 creates issues with evince. Adobe Reader  Okular have options to stop
 the presentation mode, but evince does not.

Thanks Drew:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOPamphlet-feb_11.pdf#filehistory


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-11 Thread drewjensen

hmm - well, it wasn't an evil plan
- although sounds like you should open an issue with evince, don't think
I've ever had the pleasure of using that..
- will recreate that file, sans, the full screen mode then, look for an
update, in a few minutes

and BTW - on behalf of the guys (Mark, Jeff, Carl, Italo, he who shall
remain unknown :-/, and myself)
Your welcome.

//drew

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-10 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi, 

I've forwarded your mail to the germanspeaking discuss-list, where the members 
of the box-team are very active. 

I'm sure, that one of them will reply soon to your offer, Tim. ;)

Sigrid


On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:35:44 -0500
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 02/09/2011 01:16 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
  Le 2011-02-09 12:10, Tom Davies a écrit :

[...]

 
 Well I created a temporary DVD for LibreOffice.
 
 1) With the English version for Windows, both Mac, and Linux in 32 and 
 64 bit for DEB and RPM
 2) Documentation from LibreOffice.org and OOo for the parts that LO has 
 not done yet - PDF format
 3) a large number of add on extensions
 4) large number of templates
 5) all the clipart I have for it
 
 taking about 4.0 gig on the DVD.
 
 I did not include any auto-launcher or HTML file for giving you 
 instructions on how
 to install the various platforms.  I do not know Mac and I do not 
 install RPM either,
 so I would need those instructions.  I did place a PDF file stating that 
 LibreOffice
 came out of the coding for OOo and, for now, if there is no 
 documentation for parts
 of LO, you can use OOo's version to get you up to speed.  I started out 
 with LO's
 PDFs [or exported the .odt files to PDF] that was available, and then 
 added a folder
 with the OOo documentation for parts like Calc, Draw, etc., that OOo had 
 on their site.
 
 I got most of my clip art from Openclipart [.org?], and the templates 
 for a wide variety
 of sources.  One problem so far is that some of the clip are is in WMF 
 format and my
 Ubuntu does not read/view it.  I will be converting those files later to 
 GIF, PNG, or JPG.
 
 If someone at the German site wants the ISO file of this DVD, I can 
 finish it off in the
 next few days/weeks and place it on one of my domains and give the link 
 so it can be
 downloaded at a later date.  I could also add the other English language 
 files like for
 England, or New Zealand.  Then it can be an all English ISO file that 
 can be downloaded.
 I would have to re-look into the distribution info for some of the clip 
 art and such though.
 
 Let me know if you want me to go ahead and finish it off with the rest 
 of the English
 language and help packs, plus the other work.
 
 Tim L., Elmira, New York, USA,
 founder/owner of Kracked Press Productions, but forced to retire after 
 my third stroke.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/10/2011 05:15 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

Hi Tim:

Not sure if you know this but you can find some documentation here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation#Available_User_Documentation 



I have seen this and add the PDF files to my documentation folder. I 
added OOo's Writer guide [02's], Calc guide [03's]. Draw guide [04's], 
Impress guide [05's], and Math [08's].


Since LibreOffice has only the 01's for the Getting Started guide list 
on the above site, and OOo's documentation is similar enough to use as a 
guide, I thought that it would be OK.  I also have a readme file stating 
that LibreOffice's document writers have just started with writing the 
LibreOffice specific documentation and these people makeup many of the 
writers of the OOo documentation. I also state that the OOo guides are 
OK to use until LibreOffice's document writers finish those other 
documentation books or guides for each part of LibreOffice.


You may want to look around the wiki on the documentation section. 
There may be other files you may want to point to. The Getting 
Started With LibreOffice 3.3 is completely finished and can also be 
purchased from Lulu.com: 
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/getting-started-with-libreoffice-33/14703788


I did not include that guide since I did not purchase a copy.  I 
downloaded the free guides instead.



Re: OpenCliparts.com . I usually install this package:
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/14906526/dir/pclinuxos/com/libreoffice-openclipart-3-1pclos2010.noarch.rpm.html 
 All of the cliparts are inserted into the right locations and appear 
in the Gallery correctly. Works well on my Mandriva 2010.2


Cheers

Marc
I did not list that info since I use Ubuntu's .deb install.  I know that 
there are clipart galleries that are a part of the installs, or as an 
add on.  I have added one listed as OOOP Gallery Pack to my extension 
folder of the extensions I usually install when I install it for my 
systems and others.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-10 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-10 05:06, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :

Hi,

I've forwarded your mail to the germanspeaking discuss-list, where the members of the 
box-team are very active.

I'm sure, that one of them will reply soon to your offer, Tim. ;)

Sigrid




Hi Sigrid:

I wasn't sure who to leave this with. Could you also send along a note 
to the German team that the included PhotoAlbum extension returns a 
Basic error? So it is unusable as is. They may want to fix the problem 
or exclude it from the pack. It is a shame as it is a really useful 
extension. Note that I did not install LibreOffice 3.3 from the disc as 
I had already installed it.


Pass on my congratulations to the German team. A really excellent disc.

Thanks

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

 IMO the project has the potential to become internationalized.

Are you joking? I can't even understand why the other national teams aren't
taking advantage of this initiative!

Congratulations!

I hope others will follow the German example!

(I'm curious: why is the Slimcase Inlay so low res? Isn't the original an
SVG like for the labels? Can someone post the original?)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi plino,

Am 09.02.2011 10:20, schrieb plino:

 (I'm curious: why is the Slimcase Inlay so low res? Isn't the original an
 SVG like for the labels? Can someone post the original?)

Not the original, but perhaps of help:
http://www.ooodev.org/images/downloads/LibO/libo_dvd_inlet_feb2011.pdf

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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

Hi Stefan, indeed much better.  I can see now why the original is not shared
;)

In any case you should replace those low res labels ASAP ;)

Here is a much nicer PNG (BTW I have no idea why the corner crop marks grow
inside the light green area in your PDF...)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2347109/libo_dvd_inlet_feb2011_01.png



Thank you for the link, Marc. I can see there are a lot of proposals... :)

Cheers,
Pedro
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/09/2011 12:56 AM, plino wrote:

You obviously need to get official labels and stuff but there is no need to
download packages. There is already an all_platform DVD available in the
mirrors...

http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/box/3.3.0/

Maybe it hasn't been announced but it's there since Feb 5th ;)
That link shows an All platform ISO but it also shows a de language 
code in the file name.  Since I am in the USA and we use English, for 
the most part, in my area of New York State I would prefer to have a 
English CD or DVD ISO file if I do no make my own.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread plino

Yes, you are right. I failed to notice the _de detail but if you read this
thread you are now aware that there is a wiki page on this subject ;)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Documents_and_Resources
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/09/2011 09:53 AM, plino wrote:

Yes, you are right. I failed to notice the _de detail but if you read this
thread you are now aware that there is a wiki page on this subject ;)

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Documents_and_Resources


This is the link I finally found that has a list of the files on a DVD 
for distribution.


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=User:MagicFab/LibODVD

This is part of what I need.  Of course, most of the links for DVD 
labels and DVD cases are shown in German, which is where the site is 
originally from.  I can develop my own labels, since I prefer using 
Light Scribe disks over the paper labels.  I find that paper labels 
bubble up after a year or two.  I have a number of DVDs that had to be 
thrown out due to this problem.  With Light Scribe, I have no paper 
label, but it is monochrome and it takes time to burn the label onto the 
surface of the disk.  Also Light Scribe does not have a 64-bit version 
for Linux.  I will have to use my Vista laptop any my external DVD 
burner to do the job.  Also the media is hard to find sometimes.  Still 
it is better than dealing with bubbly paper labels if they sit around 
for awhile.


To be honest, most of my CDs and DVDs issued to friends and family, plus 
some old clients, have marker labels instead of printed ones.  Saves 
time and money for those who do not care if it is a nice printed label.  
One day I hope to get an ink-jet printer to print directly onto the 
label area of the discs.  Now that would be the best solution, but my HP 
PSC is still a good working all-in-one printer to offset my colored 
laser printer.  By-the-By, do not use colored laser printers for most 
disc labels.  The toner can peal off the paper too often for safe use.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/09/2011 10:21 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:48:28 -0500
webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:


On 02/09/2011 12:56 AM, plino wrote:

You obviously need to get official labels and stuff but there is no need to
download packages. There is already an all_platform DVD available in the
mirrors...

http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/box/3.3.0/

Maybe it hasn't been announced but it's there since Feb 5th ;)

That link shows an All platform ISO but it also shows a de language
code in the file name.  Since I am in the USA and we use English, for
the most part, in my area of New York State I would prefer to have a
English CD or DVD ISO file if I do no make my own.

I'm not sure, what you mean.

Yes, the DVD is made by a German speaking team, and templates and extra stuff 
are in German. But the software itself comes with more than just the German UI 
and help files.

[copy]
LibreOffice 3.3.0
  GNU/Linux 32  RPM, DEB (en-US)
  GNU/Linux 64  RPM, DEB (en-US)
  Mac OS x86, PPC (en-US)
  Windows 32 (all available languages)
  Portable (cs, da, de, el, fr, he, hu, it, ja, ko, po, pt, ru, zh-cn, zh-tw)

language- and help packs
  GNU/Linux 32 RPM, DEB (de, en-US, es, fr, it)
  GNU/Linux 64 RPM, DEB (de, en-US, es, fr, it)
  Mac OS x86, PPC (Sprachpakete de, es, fr, it)
  Windows 32 (Hilfepakete de, en-US, es, fr, it)
[/copy]

So at least the software will be in your preferred language.

If you're interested, Friedrich and Erich together with Uwe (they did most of the work 
for this ISO) will gladly help you, if you want to lend a hand to create a 
truly English version of the ISO. :)


Sigrid

Email me off the list at  webmas...@krackedpress.com and we can talk 
some more

about this.  Thanks.

There is a need or an English, and/or a multi-language ISO file that has 
the software in
the languages used and the add on extensions, documentation, and 
templates in those
different languages.  I mainly deal with an all English version, but the 
official site could
have an ISO to be downloaded that has the top 5 or 10 languages and 
their versions of the
documents and such included.  That would be a good way to market the 
product.  You
never know who could use one.  I did once for a friend that was born in 
a non-English
speaking country and still did a lot of non-English work in a word 
processor.


Tim L.
Elmira, New York, USA. [ 9 degrees F. this morning]

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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Sigrid:

Le 2011-02-09 10:21, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :



If you're interested, Friedrich and Erich together with Uwe (they did most of the work 
for this ISO) will gladly help you, if you want to lend a hand to create a 
truly English version of the ISO. :)


Sigrid



I think it is pretty safe to say that the marketing team would be 
interested in an English version. I have just downloaded the ISO and 
will take a look at it. I would offer to help but have extremely limited 
coding experience. I can offer some help wherever I am useful.


I am pretty sure that all other NL groups would be interested in their 
own version too.


Congrats to the German team for creating this.

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

It seems that the German Team do a lot to keep this sort of thing updated.  
Without a similar team in other countries keeping it updated might be tricky.  
perhaps it might be possible to list and link to the downloads that are 
required 
and then let users update the links if they need this dvd?  Perhaps there is a 
better way to minimise the work required to keep this updated unless 
specifically needed?  Putting in a lot of work now might not be the best use of 
time right now but that is up to individuals and what interests them (as 
always).  It would be a great thing to have in English/American but i don't 
think we have a strong enough team for it to have lasting effect.


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 9 February, 2011 16:22:19
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a 
CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

Hi Sigrid:

Le 2011-02-09 10:21, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :

 
 If you're interested, Friedrich and Erich together with Uwe (they did most of 
the work for this ISO) will gladly help you, if you want to lend a hand to 
create a truly English version of the ISO. :)
 
 
 Sigrid
 

I think it is pretty safe to say that the marketing team would be interested in 
an English version. I have just downloaded the ISO and will take a look at it. 
I 
would offer to help but have extremely limited coding experience. I can offer 
some help wherever I am useful.

I am pretty sure that all other NL groups would be interested in their own 
version too.

Congrats to the German team for creating this.

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-09 12:10, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)

It seems that the German Team do a lot to keep this sort of thing updated.
Without a similar team in other countries keeping it updated might be tricky.
perhaps it might be possible to list and link to the downloads that are required
and then let users update the links if they need this dvd?  Perhaps there is a
better way to minimise the work required to keep this updated unless
specifically needed?  Putting in a lot of work now might not be the best use of
time right now but that is up to individuals and what interests them (as
always).  It would be a great thing to have in English/American but i don't
think we have a strong enough team for it to have lasting effect.


Regards from
Tom :)



Well, I hope with over 300 million population, that the US team will 
grow a bit. There are really about 15 US active members that I can see. 
If we could get a few more dozen helpers on hand, we could maybe get a 
team to keep the distro ISO up to date. Of course, you could also add to 
this the Canadian users to bulk up the numbers (*smile*), we number 
approximately 34 million population.


Let's hope our US/Can marketing campaign is an effective one.

Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: where is the guidelines on what to put on a CD/DVD distro of LibreOffice?

2011-02-09 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/09/2011 01:16 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Le 2011-02-09 12:10, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi :)

It seems that the German Team do a lot to keep this sort of thing 
updated.
Without a similar team in other countries keeping it updated might be 
tricky.
perhaps it might be possible to list and link to the downloads that 
are required
and then let users update the links if they need this dvd?  Perhaps 
there is a

better way to minimise the work required to keep this updated unless
specifically needed?  Putting in a lot of work now might not be the 
best use of

time right now but that is up to individuals and what interests them (as
always).  It would be a great thing to have in English/American but i 
don't

think we have a strong enough team for it to have lasting effect.


Regards from
Tom :)



Well, I hope with over 300 million population, that the US team will 
grow a bit. There are really about 15 US active members that I can 
see. If we could get a few more dozen helpers on hand, we could maybe 
get a team to keep the distro ISO up to date. Of course, you could 
also add to this the Canadian users to bulk up the numbers (*smile*), 
we number approximately 34 million population.


Let's hope our US/Can marketing campaign is an effective one.

Cheers

Marc


Well I created a temporary DVD for LibreOffice.

1) With the English version for Windows, both Mac, and Linux in 32 and 
64 bit for DEB and RPM
2) Documentation from LibreOffice.org and OOo for the parts that LO has 
not done yet - PDF format

3) a large number of add on extensions
4) large number of templates
5) all the clipart I have for it

taking about 4.0 gig on the DVD.

I did not include any auto-launcher or HTML file for giving you 
instructions on how
to install the various platforms.  I do not know Mac and I do not 
install RPM either,
so I would need those instructions.  I did place a PDF file stating that 
LibreOffice
came out of the coding for OOo and, for now, if there is no 
documentation for parts
of LO, you can use OOo's version to get you up to speed.  I started out 
with LO's
PDFs [or exported the .odt files to PDF] that was available, and then 
added a folder
with the OOo documentation for parts like Calc, Draw, etc., that OOo had 
on their site.


I got most of my clip art from Openclipart [.org?], and the templates 
for a wide variety
of sources.  One problem so far is that some of the clip are is in WMF 
format and my
Ubuntu does not read/view it.  I will be converting those files later to 
GIF, PNG, or JPG.


If someone at the German site wants the ISO file of this DVD, I can 
finish it off in the
next few days/weeks and place it on one of my domains and give the link 
so it can be
downloaded at a later date.  I could also add the other English language 
files like for
England, or New Zealand.  Then it can be an all English ISO file that 
can be downloaded.
I would have to re-look into the distribution info for some of the clip 
art and such though.


Let me know if you want me to go ahead and finish it off with the rest 
of the English

language and help packs, plus the other work.

Tim L., Elmira, New York, USA,
founder/owner of Kracked Press Productions, but forced to retire after 
my third stroke.


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