Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:17:56 +0100

 Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.
 
 I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and
 there is a reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on
 that link (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and
 eventually times out. Is this address still valid?
 
 I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.
 
 Cheers

Hi Tim,

The oooforum.org site is still operational, but their server is (at
best) unreliable. Sometimes you can connect without any problem and
other times the connection will time out. I have no idea why this is.

BTW Tom, oooforum.org was never under Sun or Oracle's control and was
established independently from the original OpenOffice.org project.
Neither it is not part of AOO or hosted ASF servers.
Think of it like this:
oooforum.org = The independent, unofficial form.
forum.openoffice.org = The official AOO forum, which offers some support
for LO users.

Regards
Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times out. Is this 
address still valid?


I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it 
is still in test mode.


http://forum.libreoffice.org/

Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable

http://forum.openoffice.org/

As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that 
it comes and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely 
that it is down than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still 
pays lip service to making it function.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Andrew ,

when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and 
code examples for both communities,


Greetz

Fernand


On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:
I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and 
there is a reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on 
that link (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and 
eventually times out. Is this address still valid?


I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it 
is still in test mode.


http://forum.libreoffice.org/

Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable

http://forum.openoffice.org/

As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that 
it comes and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely 
that it is down than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still 
pays lip service to making it function.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Tim Lloyd
thanks everyone for the feedback.
- Original Message -
From: Fernand Vanrie
Sent: 02/26/13 01:53 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

Andrew , when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and 
code examples for both communities, Greetz Fernand   On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, 
Tim Lloyd wrote:  I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started 
guide and  there is a reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on 
 that link (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and  
eventually times out. Is this address still valid?   I understand that the LO 
folks are standing up their own forum, but it  is still in test mode.   
http://forum.libreoffice.org/   Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should 
stay reliable   http://forum.openoffice.org/   As for the oooforum.org, It 
is no longer reliable. I hear reports that  it comes and goes. Lately, when I 
go there it seems to be more likely  that it is down than up. I should 
probably ping Ed and see if he still  pays lip service to making it function. 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Should TDF and Apache both be contributing to keeping it going?  Is anyone here 
able to explain it to the BoD?
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 14:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
 
Andrew ,

when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and code 
examples for both communities,

Greetz

Fernand
 
 On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:
 I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
 reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
 (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
 out. Is this address still valid?
 
 I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it is 
 still in test mode.
 
 http://forum.libreoffice.org/
 
 Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable
 
 http://forum.openoffice.org/
 
 As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that it 
 comes and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely that it 
 is down than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still pays lip 
 service to making it function.
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Hal Vaughan

On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 I very much doubt we'd be involved with keeping a OOo or AOO forum going -
 just my thoughts though.

It would seem to me it would be in everyone's best interest to, if nothing 
else, clone the site and store the data, even if a new version of the site 
would have to have up on the page, where people will easily see it, a notice 
that it's for archival and search purposes only.

I know this past week I was doing research and all the links were timing out to 
that page - but that it had information I wasn't finding elsewhere (other than 
the Google cache of the site).


Hal

 
 
 Best,
 Joel
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi :)
 Should TDF and Apache both be contributing to keeping it going?  Is anyone
 here able to explain it to the BoD?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 14:53
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
 
 Andrew ,
 
 when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and
 code examples for both communities,
 
 Greetz
 
 Fernand
 
 On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:
 I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there
 is a reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link
 (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times
 out. Is this address still valid?
 
 I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it
 is still in test mode.
 
 http://forum.libreoffice.org/
 
 Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable
 
 http://forum.openoffice.org/
 
 As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that
 it comes and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely that
 it is down than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still pays lip
 service to making it function.
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


Help and resources have been offered, but it is currently under sole 
ownership by someone that may not let anyone else into his playground 
and will not allow it to move into one not controlled by him. So, unless 
he has a change of heart, it is doomed to die unless the current owner 
(Ed) decides to do something with it.


On 02/25/2013 04:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Should TDF and Apache both be contributing to keeping it going?  Is anyone here 
able to explain it to the BoD?
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 14:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

Andrew ,

when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and code 
examples for both communities,

Greetz

Fernand

On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times out. Is this 
address still valid?

I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it is still 
in test mode.

http://forum.libreoffice.org/

Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable

http://forum.openoffice.org/

As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that it comes 
and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely that it is down 
than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still pays lip service to 
making it function.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
Wouldn't it be possible to write a Perl screen scraper and spider through it?  
Or would that be a copyright issue?



Hal

On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org 
wrote:

 
 Help and resources have been offered, but it is currently under sole 
 ownership by someone that may not let anyone else into his playground and 
 will not allow it to move into one not controlled by him. So, unless he has a 
 change of heart, it is doomed to die unless the current owner (Ed) decides to 
 do something with it.
 
 On 02/25/2013 04:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Should TDF and Apache both be contributing to keeping it going?  Is anyone 
 here able to explain it to the BoD?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 14:53
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
 
 Andrew ,
 
 when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and code 
 examples for both communities,
 
 Greetz
 
 Fernand
 On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:
 I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is 
 a reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
 (fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually 
 times out. Is this address still valid?
 I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it is 
 still in test mode.
 
 http://forum.libreoffice.org/
 
 Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable
 
 http://forum.openoffice.org/
 
 As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that it 
 comes and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely that it 
 is down than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still pays lip 
 service to making it function.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I assume that it is not a problem to scrape the forum if you know how to 
do it.


I dropped Ed a line and he said that he would look at it and that he 
thought that it was having performance problems. Last time I asked him 
about it, it was being hit constantly by spammers or something that was 
causing it problems.


On 02/25/2013 07:06 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:

Wouldn't it be possible to write a Perl screen scraper and spider through it?  
Or would that be a copyright issue?



Hal

On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org 
wrote:


Help and resources have been offered, but it is currently under sole ownership 
by someone that may not let anyone else into his playground and will not allow 
it to move into one not controlled by him. So, unless he has a change of heart, 
it is doomed to die unless the current owner (Ed) decides to do something with 
it.

On 02/25/2013 04:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Should TDF and Apache both be contributing to keeping it going?  Is anyone here 
able to explain it to the BoD?
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 14:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

Andrew ,

when this site is gone then its also a terible lost of knowledge and code 
examples for both communities,

Greetz

Fernand

On 02/24/2013 10:17 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote:

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times out. Is this 
address still valid?

I understand that the LO folks are standing up their own forum, but it is still 
in test mode.

http://forum.libreoffice.org/

Apache hosts the user forum now, so it should stay reliable

http://forum.openoffice.org/

As for the oooforum.org, It is no longer reliable. I hear reports that it comes 
and goes. Lately, when I go there it seems to be more likely that it is down 
than up. I should probably ping Ed and see if he still pays lip service to 
making it function.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  

The address  seems to be working now if you do a  google search for OpenOffice 
forums and click on their links.  Clicking on the link in your email doesn't 
work though and directly typing the address into the url-bar doesn't work 
either.  


Between 2010 and a few months after Apache were given those sites they kept 
falling over or going down.  At first people thought it was Oracle taking them 
down permanently but later it became clear it was just their inability to be 
reliable.  Under Apache those sites seem to have been fine until now.  Perhaps 
they are moving to better servers this week and that's causing a temporary 
blip?  


I copypasted these links from a google search

http://www.oooforum.org/
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
All worked fine for me but can you click on them?  Weird isn't it?
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 3:17
Subject: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
 
Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
out. Is this address still valid?

I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.

Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

2013-02-24 Thread Tim Lloyd
Hi Tom,

the last 2 links work fine. http://www.oooforum.org/ not so. Which is a bit of 
a bummer as that is the link referenced in the getting started guide :(

No worries. I'll sleep on it and see if the server resets itself overnight (or 
I guess while the rest of the world is beavering away fixing problems such as 
this).

Cheers
- Original Message -
From: Tom Davies
Sent: 02/25/13 05:17 PM
To: Tim Lloyd, users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

Hi :) 
The address seems to be working now if you do a google search for OpenOffice 
forums and click on their links. Clicking on the link in your email doesn't 
work though and directly typing the address into the url-bar doesn't work 
either. 

Between 2010 and a few months after Apache were given those sites they kept 
falling over or going down. At first people thought it was Oracle taking them 
down permanently but later it became clear it was just their inability to be 
reliable. Under Apache those sites seem to have been fine until now. Perhaps 
they are moving to better servers this week and that's causing a temporary 
blip? 

I copypasted these links from a google search
http://www.oooforum.org/
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
All worked fine for me but can you click on them? Weird isn't it?
Regards from
Tom :) 

-
From: Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 3:17
Subject: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 getting started guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/ . When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
out. Is this address still valid?

I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.

Cheers

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