Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
Hi :) If you want to request a new feature then post it as a bug-report https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport but somewhere in the drop-downs is an options called something like Feature Request or Enhancement Request or something like that. In some other OpenSource programs people just write it into the subject-line but with square brackets around as though its a tag, like; [Feature Request] or [Enhancement Request] or more usually [wish-list] (note it's shorter!) So, if you can't find the right option in the right dro-down then just try that instead because the triagers (QA here) will work out what to do pretty quickly! Regards from Tom :) From: sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 17:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI? On 19/02/13 17:25, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... These are reasonable suggestions. I personally would like to see an improvement in the ease with which to adjust the bullet/ numbering options. One of my biggest bug-bears with LibO (and OOo before that) is the unreasonable difficulty the user experiences with bulleted and numbered lists. I know a couple of others who seem to experience a similar level of difficulty, so I would certainly put this on my wish list :-) Is there a request list available? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 12:25 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... Something like - http://pauloup.deviantart.com/gallery/28216273 http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/175/new-libreoffice-ui ? -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
Hello, I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Would you have a different UI style in mind, or are there perhaps existing bugs and issues that would warrant higher prioritisation? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... As far as I know there are no such plans. Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 02/19/2013 11:56 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... As far as I know there are no such plans. Best Regards, Joel The only thing I heard about this, in the past, was the possibilityof adding Tabbed documents, like you find in browsers using new tab or new window. Adding that might take a lot of work. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 02/19/2013 11:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... I hear from a believable source that OpenOffice will incorporate some or all the symphony GUI in its next release, later this year. --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... It's a ridiculous amount of work to integrate the code even if it's open. Furthermore, the debate is ongoing and heated about if those kinds of changes are even desired. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 17:25, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... These are reasonable suggestions. I personally would like to see an improvement in the ease with which to adjust the bullet/ numbering options. One of my biggest bug-bears with LibO (and OOo before that) is the unreasonable difficulty the user experiences with bulleted and numbered lists. I know a couple of others who seem to experience a similar level of difficulty, so I would certainly put this on my wish list :-) Is there a request list available? File a bug and QA (me or one of my colleagues) will mark it as an enhancement request. https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
Not a list for Feature Requests, but you can go to http://bugs.freedesktop.org and file a request (Feature requests are handled using the issue reporting system) On Tuesday, 19 February 2013, sun shine wrote: On 19/02/13 17:25, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... These are reasonable suggestions. I personally would like to see an improvement in the ease with which to adjust the bullet/ numbering options. One of my biggest bug-bears with LibO (and OOo before that) is the unreasonable difficulty the user experiences with bulleted and numbered lists. I know a couple of others who seem to experience a similar level of difficulty, so I would certainly put this on my wish list :-) Is there a request list available? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 02/19/2013 12:30 PM, Joel Madero wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... It's a ridiculous amount of work to integrate the code even if it's open. Furthermore, the debate is ongoing and heated about if those kinds of changes are even desired. Best, Joel For the record, _I_ desire the Symphony interface. If it wasn't so buggy I would use Symphony to the exclusion of any of the other freebies. And if OO comes thru as promised, that's what I'll use. --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 2013-02-19 12:30 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/19/2013 11:33 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... I hear from a believable source that OpenOffice will incorporate some or all the symphony GUI in its next release, later this year. Yeah, I read that too - but I don't use AOO, I use LibO, hence my question here specifically baout LibO's plans on doing the same... :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
On 2013-02-20 06:25, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... Also I found Approach far more intuitive than Base. We could use Approach in our business, Base is just too much effort, too high a skill set required for an average user. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI?
Hi :) Any menus or ribbons or whatnot (thanks Amiko) at the top or bottom on a wide-screen display drives me nuts. I really should just turn my wide-screen on it's side so i can see documents properly instead of through a letter-box. How come mobile devices have a portrait mode by default!! G Lol Regards from Tom :) From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com To: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 17:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Any plans to incorporate anything from the Lotus Symphony UI? On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote: On 2013-02-19 11:44 AM, sun shine phaedr...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/13 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: I read recently that IBM had finally donated all of the Lotus Symphony UI code to AOO... Are there any plans to at least take a look at this code and possibly cherry pick it to give a facelift for LO? I don't want (hate!) the ribbon in MSO, but would love to see the UI with a decent facelift/refresh... And what did you have in mind? Tabbed interface (should be optional/easy to drag/move a doc out into its own window), formatting tools/toolbars on the side (Symphony are on the right, but should be movable), TaskPane (similar to the ribbon, but doesn't replace the menus), and there are others... Lots to pick from, so it should at least be on the table... It's a ridiculous amount of work to integrate the code even if it's open. Furthermore, the debate is ongoing and heated about if those kinds of changes are even desired. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
