Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
2014-04-16 18:45 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) +1 I agree. It is more of an issue now the start screen is so much nicer looking and more useful. Posting a feature-request through the bug-report system would be fantastic. Ideally with someone who feels fairly strongly about it rather than someone good at coding. David, are you up for it? Regards from Tom :) On 16 April 2014 13:57, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having the possibility of accessing their start screen. David Tom, David, if I open a document in Writer, and it is the only such document open in LO, and then close it with the *lower* of the two crosses displayed at the far right, the LO start screen is displayed automatically. The problem is that this behaviour is not entirely intuitive ; for example, if I first open a new empty document and then retrieve the one which I'd like to edit by clicking the «Archive» icon in the toolbar, that lower cross is no longer displayed with the document, and the latter must now be closed by clicking the upper cross, which is the only one shown on the screen - and which takes me back to the preceding, empty, document (after which I can return to the LO start screen by clicking the lower cross, which is now displayed). However, if I start from the LO start screen and retrieve a recently used document by clicking its miniature there, then both crosses *are* displayed with the document and closing it by clicking the lower one returns me to the start screen. I suspect users would find a lower cross which is always displayed and always closes the document displayed and takes one back to the LO start screen, while the upper cross is reserved for closing LO as a whole, more intuitive and user-friendly Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi :) Thanks :))) That initial bite of interest might have been just the QA team making sure the report is ready for the main devs. However it has been known to get a devs interest that quickly = it really depends a lot on luck (unless it's a security issue). Regards from Tom :) On 19 April 2014 15:49, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: Thanks Tom. Actually it got an 'interested' comment from a dev within a couple of hours. My comments were slightly tongue-in-cheek and I wasn't necessarily suggesting that LO devs would be off-hand. Since moving to Linux however I've found that bug handling sites can be belittling places for a beginner, some forums likewise (yes, you, Mint on both counts). I haven't honestly found LO forums anything other than helpful; wish I had something to contribute back. Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105776.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
David, *, The enhancement of returning to the Start Center at any point is actually a reasonable idea. But, always helpful if we post the link to the bug or enhancement request entered in Bugzilla, that way all can follow along and comment there. So that is fdo#77590 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77590 for this enhancement. As noted by Cor on the enhancement request, as the last open document is closed (without exiting LibreOffice)--the start screen (correctly known as the Start Center) will reappear. The Start Center evolved from the merging of the Recent Documents menu (available in all frames) and the Thumbnail views of the Template manager (on the Start Center, or from File - Templates, or with CtrlShift+n). Enhancements to the the Recent Documents list are being tracked in fdo#61174 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61174 Enhancements to the Start Center (merge of Recent Documents list with Thumbnail views) in fdo#61914 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61914 . -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105844.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi :) I agree with this too. I think it is probably a different issue from the subject of this thread though, at least as far as the devs probably see it. So it probably could do with a separate feature-request. Perhaps put a link from each report to the other to keep them close? Regards from Tom :) On 20 April 2014 14:17, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-16 18:45 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com: Hi :) +1 I agree. It is more of an issue now the start screen is so much nicer looking and more useful. Posting a feature-request through the bug-report system would be fantastic. Ideally with someone who feels fairly strongly about it rather than someone good at coding. David, are you up for it? Regards from Tom :) On 16 April 2014 13:57, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having the possibility of accessing their start screen. David Tom, David, if I open a document in Writer, and it is the only such document open in LO, and then close it with the *lower* of the two crosses displayed at the far right, the LO start screen is displayed automatically. The problem is that this behaviour is not entirely intuitive ; for example, if I first open a new empty document and then retrieve the one which I'd like to edit by clicking the «Archive» icon in the toolbar, that lower cross is no longer displayed with the document, and the latter must now be closed by clicking the upper cross, which is the only one shown on the screen - and which takes me back to the preceding, empty, document (after which I can return to the LO start screen by clicking the lower cross, which is now displayed). However, if I start from the LO start screen and retrieve a recently used document by clicking its miniature there, then both crosses *are* displayed with the document and closing it by clicking the lower one returns me to the start screen. I suspect users would find a lower cross which is always displayed and always closes the document displayed and takes one back to the LO start screen, while the upper cross is reserved for closing LO as a whole, more intuitive and user-friendly Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Thanks Tom. Actually it got an 'interested' comment from a dev within a couple of hours. My comments were slightly tongue-in-cheek and I wasn't necessarily suggesting that LO devs would be off-hand. Since moving to Linux however I've found that bug handling sites can be belittling places for a beginner, some forums likewise (yes, you, Mint on both counts). I haven't honestly found LO forums anything other than helpful; wish I had something to contribute back. Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105776.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi :) Ahh, it's more of a sitwait rather than a glamorous adventure. I think the US forces call it a hurry up and wait. So now you've posted the request it's best to just get on with other things and use work-arounds. The devs aren't all that bad! Don't worry about buckets of anything. It's more that when nothing happens for 6 months or 2 years and suddenly a message appears that you have some vague hope of being able to remember what it was about and maybe give them a response within a few weeks (within days or even just hours is better but not really expected) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2014 20:39, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: Hi Tom I've been on to bugzilla and logged this as an enhancement. TomD wrote David, are you up for it? Makes the process sound like the start of Bilbo Baggins' epic adventure. I'm big enough and old enough to take a bucket of from a haughty expert if that's what you mean! Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105585.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi Tom I've been on to bugzilla and logged this as an enhancement. TomD wrote David, are you up for it? Makes the process sound like the start of Bilbo Baggins' epic adventure. I'm big enough and old enough to take a bucket of from a haughty expert if that's what you mean! Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105585.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having the possibility of accessing their start screen. David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105441.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi :) +1 I agree. It is more of an issue now the start screen is so much nicer looking and more useful. Posting a feature-request through the bug-report system would be fantastic. Ideally with someone who feels fairly strongly about it rather than someone good at coding. David, are you up for it? Regards from Tom :) On 16 April 2014 13:57, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: Thanks for your responses. I think that LO is missing a trick on not having the possibility of accessing their start screen. David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4105441.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
I'm sorry guys, I hadn't thought that there would be any confusion. What I am talking about is the start screen that appears when I start LO, the one with a graphic representation of recently opened files and access to templates and creating new documents etc. I tend to use a few files regularly and find the graphics much easier to select than filenames in the open dialog or getting to the templates dialog. Some may differ but surely the option should be there? So much effort has gone into the start screen and yet it is only available when LO opens the first time. Regards David -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-back-to-the-Start-screen-tp4104830p4104960.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
At 08:29 11/04/2014 -0700, David Noname wrote: What I am talking about is the start screen that appears when I start LO, the one with a graphic representation of recently opened files and access to templates and creating new documents etc. I tend to use a few files regularly and find the graphics much easier to select than filenames in the open dialog or getting to the templates dialog. Then you may find this useful: o Click on the down-arrow at the right end of the Standard toolbar. o Select Visible Buttons . o Tick Load URL. The additional toolbar item will accumulate recently used file names and give you a quick route to your few regularly used files. Note that you will need to activate this item separately in the separate components Writer, Calc, and so on if desired. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:29 AM, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote: What I am talking about is the start screen that appears when I start LO, the one with a graphic representation of recently opened files and access to templates and creating new documents etc. I tend to use a few files This suggestion doesn't display the LO start screen you're referring to, however it does provide a button to access recently used files. In all my LO applications there is a button very close to the left end of the toolbar that looks like an open folder. Immediately to the right of that button is a small down arrow. Clicking that arrow opens a list of recently used files. The list shows *all* recently used LO files. In other words it doesn't filter the list to display only Writer files or only Calc files if that's what I'm currently using. The Folder button and adjacent arrow are there by default, I didn't add it. So presumably it is there for you as well. Hovering the mouse over the folder or adjacent down arrow activates both and displays the message Open (Ctrl+O) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Getting back to the Start screen
Hi :) Grrr, pressed the send button instead of delete! Sorry! On 11 April 2014 20:50, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I only get that down-arrow / chevrons when i un-fullscreen lIbreOffice and make it small enough that not all the items on the toolbar are visible. That url / search-box, with it's drop-down is really neat! I like it a lot! :) But it's a lot like the list in the File - Recent Documents and not at all like the graphics in the all-new splash screen we get when we start LibreOffice. It might be worth posting a feature request to see if the url-bar thing could be modified to make it more consistent with the splash-screen or if it could be an option for it or if the splash-screen could be accessed some other way. Tbh i never pay much attention to the splash screen on programs. Hmm, it's not really a splash screen at all is it? That appears earlier. I think you are right calling it the start up screen. Regards from Tom :) On 11 April 2014 19:45, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 08:29 11/04/2014 -0700, David Noname wrote: What I am talking about is the start screen that appears when I start LO, the one with a graphic representation of recently opened files and access to templates and creating new documents etc. I tend to use a few files regularly and find the graphics much easier to select than filenames in the open dialog or getting to the templates dialog. Then you may find this useful: o Click on the down-arrow at the right end of the Standard toolbar. o Select Visible Buttons . o Tick Load URL. The additional toolbar item will accumulate recently used file names and give you a quick route to your few regularly used files. Note that you will need to activate this item separately in the separate components Writer, Calc, and so on if desired. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
