Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 08:21 PM, c...@intergate.com wrote: Quoting NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: On 11/05/2013 06:53 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 ... '. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. I had to install AOOo in a parallel folder so that it doesn't end up polluting my file associations (long story) found: Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions. Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted. You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The same font will be used on both your printer and your screen. Correct. I have done all that. The issue with LO 4.1.3.2 is that it cannot differentiate between the font sub-families, I guess you would call them, so it thinks Calibri and Calibri Light are the same family. They are in a sense, but not in another sense and LO 4.0.5 can tell the difference and 4.1.3.2 cannot. AOO can tell the difference also even better than LO 4.0.5 in that it separates out Calibri, Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic as separate fonts in the drop down list so I can choose which ever one I want. In 4.1.3.2 I can make the Calibri Light work using the Format/Character menus, but cannot any way get Calibri Light Bold to work as it isn't listed anywhere. Somehow LO has changed how the fonts are differentiated and it really messes up this font access. Cliff Of course, some font families have normal - regular, bold, italic, bold italic light - regular and italic dark or heavy - regular and italic wide - regular, bold, italic, bold italic narrow - regular, bold, italic, bold italic then there are demi and other font style names for the different font weights out there. I have seen one font family with 4 or 5 different font weights, plus the wide, narrow, condensed, and other font width options. The designers can go crazy with the combinations of font weight and width, and packages like LO need to be able to handle them all. As for light bold, what is the difference in font weight between normal and the standard bold weights? Somewhere between them? Light, normal, light-bold, bold? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 11/05/2013 08:21 PM, c...@intergate.com wrote: Quoting NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: On 11/05/2013 06:53 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 ... '. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. I had to install AOOo in a parallel folder so that it doesn't end up polluting my file associations (long story) found: Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions. Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted. You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The same font will be used on both your printer and your screen. Correct. I have done all that. The issue with LO 4.1.3.2 is that it cannot differentiate between the font sub-families, I guess you would call them, so it thinks Calibri and Calibri Light are the same family. They are in a sense, but not in another sense and LO 4.0.5 can tell the difference and 4.1.3.2 cannot. AOO can tell the difference also even better than LO 4.0.5 in that it separates out Calibri, Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic as separate fonts in the drop down list so I can choose which ever one I want. In 4.1.3.2 I can make the Calibri Light work using the Format/Character menus, but cannot any way get Calibri Light Bold to work as it isn't listed anywhere. Somehow LO has changed how the fonts are differentiated and it really messes up this font access. Cliff Of course, some font families have normal - regular, bold, italic, bold italic light - regular and italic dark or heavy - regular and italic wide - regular, bold, italic, bold italic narrow - regular, bold, italic, bold italic then there are demi and other font style names for the different font weights out there. I have seen one font family with 4 or 5 different font weights, plus the wide, narrow, condensed, and other font width options. The designers can go crazy with the combinations of font weight and width, and packages like LO need to be able to handle them all. As for light bold, what is the difference in font weight between normal and the standard bold weights? Somewhere between them? Light, normal, light-bold, bold? Great idea! Actually in this case Calibri Light Bold that I can see in 4.0.5 is almost identical to Calibri Regular as seen in 4.1.3.2. That will be very workable, though it would be nice to have the basic problem of the Light not showing up in the dropdown list corrected. The Regular Bold which is substituted for Light Bold is way too bold. Problem not fixed, but a very acceptable work around for now. Thanks everyone for your input. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/4/13 1:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions. Cliff Hi Y'all, I have been using LO 4.0.5 for some time and just installed 4.1.3.2. Opened a document that I had been doing in 4.0.5 and found that 4.1.3.2 doesn't see one of my fonts, Calibri Light. It doesn't appear in the list of fonts at all. Only the base Calibri appears. In 4.0.5 both the base and the Light appear as separate fonts in the font dropdown list. I'm running OSx 10.7.5 on a MacBook Pro. Checked via the Font Book app and Calibri Light appears normally. Validated the font and no problems were found. Interestingly Calibri Light was the last font I have installed. Even reinstalled it. I would normally reboot to make sure something wasn't just funny that would be corrected by rebooting, but can't do that right now. Ideas anyone? Thanks. Cliff I run Mountain Lion, but I don't have those fonts. If you would like me to see how if it works under Mountain Lion, that might be a clue. I had a USB 3.5 floppy driver that Leopard would not work with. Nothing wrong with the drive, worked under old OS X at the stores. And, worked under Snow Leopard. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 24.0 Thunderbird 17.0.8 LibreOffice 4.1.2.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 02:00 AM, NoOp wrote: On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. ... Sorry, can't help you with a Mac, but... I copied the Calibri fonts from my Win7 partition and placed in my ~/.fonts folder on linux. Updated the font cache (sudo fc-cache -f -v), opened LO 4.1.3.2 (Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), and both Calibri and Calibri Light show up in the font menu work just fine. Note: When you use a Calibri (or any other font set) you can see the options available via 'Format|Character'. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ I just copied my entire Fonts folder from Win7 Home Pre. boot to a flash-drive and it stated it was copying 1,111 items and 485 MB in size. A lot of the were the .fon files though. Did the Calibri Light fonts show up on your Win7 boot in LO 4.1.2.3? Which Linux distro are you using to see that that font set showed up in the font list? Yes, it can be good to find a substitute for paid fonts in the free fonts available, but some projects/publishers may require an exact font name for the text. Publishers are known to have a very small set of fonts that can be used in the printed document/book/etc.. I have over 100,000 font files in my collection, so I know there are a lot of free fonts available. Of course, when I am required to use Adobe fonts, I have a set of their library of fonts from the early 2000 era to use. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. ... Sorry, can't help you with a Mac, but... I copied the Calibri fonts from my Win7 partition and placed in my ~/.fonts folder on linux. Updated the font cache (sudo fc-cache -f -v), opened LO 4.1.3.2 (Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), and both Calibri and Calibri Light show up in the font menu work just fine. Note: When you use a Calibri (or any other font set) you can see the options available via 'Format|Character'. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 06:53 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 ... '. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. I had to install AOOo in a parallel folder so that it doesn't end up polluting my file associations (long story) found: Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions. Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted. You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The same font will be used on both your printer and your screen. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 06:21 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: ... Did the Calibri Light fonts show up on your Win7 boot in LO 4.1.2.3? Yes. And also in WinXP. Which Linux distro are you using to see that that font set showed up in the font list? Doesn't matter - Ubuntu, Fedora, other. LO et al are installed independent of any distro version. I gave up on distro versions a long time ago. Yes, it can be good to find a substitute for paid fonts in the free fonts available, but some projects/publishers may require an exact font name for the text. Publishers are known to have a very small set of fonts that can be used in the printed document/book/etc.. Then up your price to the publisher by $120: http://www.fonts.com/font/microsoft-corporation/calibri#product_423239 Another similar (I've not compared for EN spacing etc): http://www.exljbris.com/fontinsans.htm Note: it's important to compare/modify font spacing when substitute fonts. They may look the same character-by-character, but character spacing can make quite a difference in line length/height etc. That's primarily why a college course, publisher, et al require exact fonts. ... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 11:29 AM, NoOp wrote: ... Another similar (I've not compared for EN spacing etc): http://www.exljbris.com/fontinsans.htm Note: it's important to compare/modify font spacing when substitute fonts. They may look the same character-by-character, but character spacing can make quite a difference in line length/height etc. That's primarily why a college course, publisher, et al require exact fonts. Sorry, forgot to add that you can scale FreeSans 10 pretty close to Calibri 12: Format|Character|Position|Rotation/Scaling|Scale width: 111% -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 02:55 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11/05/2013 11:29 AM, NoOp wrote: ... Another similar (I've not compared for EN spacing etc): http://www.exljbris.com/fontinsans.htm Note: it's important to compare/modify font spacing when substitute fonts. They may look the same character-by-character, but character spacing can make quite a difference in line length/height etc. That's primarily why a college course, publisher, et al require exact fonts. Sorry, forgot to add that you can scale FreeSans 10 pretty close to Calibri 12: Format|Character|Position|Rotation/Scaling|Scale width: 111% If you have access to Humanist fonts [521, 777, 970], they make a good substitute for Calibri, but they may be just slightly taller. They have Light versions that can be used. Any good Humanist style of font might work, if you cannot get Calibri Light working properly. Actually there a a lot of great looking fonts out there that are free, but sometimes you might have a paid font installed by some package already that could work for you. Since Calibri is a humanist font I would look at any of them first. . -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
but sometimes you might have a paid font installed by some package already that could work for you. Since Calibri is a humanist font I would look at any of them first. ​Especially since some fonts ​might not be free of use in some context, even if they are somehow installed on a system. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
Quoting NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: On 11/05/2013 06:53 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 ... '. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. I had to install AOOo in a parallel folder so that it doesn't end up polluting my file associations (long story) found: Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions. Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted. You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The same font will be used on both your printer and your screen. Correct. I have done all that. The issue with LO 4.1.3.2 is that it cannot differentiate between the font sub-families, I guess you would call them, so it thinks Calibri and Calibri Light are the same family. They are in a sense, but not in another sense and LO 4.0.5 can tell the difference and 4.1.3.2 cannot. AOO can tell the difference also even better than LO 4.0.5 in that it separates out Calibri, Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic as separate fonts in the drop down list so I can choose which ever one I want. In 4.1.3.2 I can make the Calibri Light work using the Format/Character menus, but cannot any way get Calibri Light Bold to work as it isn't listed anywhere. Somehow LO has changed how the fonts are differentiated and it really messes up this font access. Cliff This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/05/2013 05:21 PM, c...@intergate.com wrote: Quoting NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: ... Both AOOo AOO401m5(Build:9714) - Rev. 1524958 2013-09-20 11:54 - Linux x86_64) and LO 4.1.3.2 act identical, at least on the linux versions. Both use a substitute font for Calibri Light Bold/Bold Italic. That is because only Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic are in the fonts that I copied over from Win7. Calibri Bold and Bold Italic (calibriz.ttf) are available, so those fonts aren't substituted. You can verify by Format|Character and then selecting Calibre Light|Bold/Bold Light and notice the notification: This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used.. If you select only Claibri Light|Light/Light Italic the message will change to: The same font will be used on both your printer and your screen. Correct. I have done all that. The issue with LO 4.1.3.2 is that it cannot differentiate between the font sub-families, I guess you would call them, so it thinks Calibri and Calibri Light are the same family. They are in a sense, but not in another sense and LO 4.0.5 can tell the difference and 4.1.3.2 cannot. AOO can tell the difference also even better than LO 4.0.5 in that it separates out Calibri, Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic as separate fonts in the drop down list so I can choose which ever one I want. In 4.1.3.2 I can make the Calibri Light work using the Format/Character menus, but cannot any way get Calibri Light Bold to work as it isn't listed anywhere. Somehow LO has changed how the fonts are differentiated and it really messes up this font access. Interesting... maybe a MAC difference? Both my Windows (WinXP and Win7) and Linux (Ubuntu and Fedora) versions of AOOo and LO only show Calibri and Calibri Light in the dropdown. Calibri Light Italic (it is installed on my Windows system) isn't listed in the dropdowns. Ditto for other Windows applications: MSWord, Works, Wordpad. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. ... Sorry, can't help you with a Mac, but... I copied the Calibri fonts from my Win7 partition and placed in my ~/.fonts folder on linux. Updated the font cache (sudo fc-cache -f -v), opened LO 4.1.3.2 (Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), and both Calibri and Calibri Light show up in the font menu work just fine. Note: When you use a Calibri (or any other font set) you can see the options available via 'Format|Character'. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
