Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-28 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 27/03/12 22:03, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Peter,

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote (27-03-12 11:40)


...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically
generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are
tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and
American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The
only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages
to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to
program this as a replacement for the frame based system.


Thanks for your work on these templates.
There is a nice advantage for the regular labels: the option to
synchronise all labels with changes on the first label.


Hello Cor,

many thanks for your response, despite you not having seen my template 
set. ;-) I created them for my own use, but then decided that they might 
enjoy wider usage so I wrote a simple tutorial and made the package 
available as a .zip archive.


With regard to your comments about synchronisation, this is a coding 
function and not inherently dependant upon the frame basis, rather than 
the more logical table approach. If the code was written in 'C' rather 
than 'C++' I might be tempted to fix it, but I can't stand over-verbose 
languages and avoid the latter like the plague. :-)


Regards

Peter HB


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-28 Thread Ledger Consulting


Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com wrote:

On 27/03/12 22:03, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote (27-03-12 11:40)

 ...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically
 generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are
 tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

 For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and
 American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The
 only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages
 to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to
 program this as a replacement for the frame based system.

 Thanks for your work on these templates.
 There is a nice advantage for the regular labels: the option to
 synchronise all labels with changes on the first label.

Hello Cor,

many thanks for your response, despite you not having seen my template 
set. ;-) I created them for my own use, but then decided that they might 
enjoy wider usage so I wrote a simple tutorial and made the package 
available as a .zip archive.

With regard to your comments about synchronisation, this is a coding 
function and not inherently dependant upon the frame basis, rather than 
the more logical table approach. If the code was written in 'C' rather 
than 'C++' I might be tempted to fix it, but I can't stand over-verbose 
languages and avoid the latter like the plague. :-)

Regards

Peter HB


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Michael
Hi Alex,

I will update bug 47165 to show it is listed as a known issue and I will
leave it open (for now). 

If it is fixed in 3.5.2, I will close the bug at that time.

Thank you.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 26/03/12 22:20, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Michael, Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)


There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into
updating label definitions in the labels.xcu file,


Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the
label.xcu file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.
Really cool! It is bug 44516.


...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically 
generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are 
tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.


For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and 
American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The 
only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages 
to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to 
program this as a replacement for the frame based system.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then 
upload them as templates to the official templates site?  
Regards from
Tom :)  


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From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not 
properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 10:40


On 26/03/12 22:20, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi Michael, Alex,
 
 Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)
 
 There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into
 updating label definitions in the labels.xcu file,
 
 Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the
 label.xcu file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.
 Really cool! It is bug 44516.

...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically generated 
frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are tabular after all and 
this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and American 
Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The only drawback is 
in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages to meet output 
requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to program this as a 
replacement for the frame based system.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Don Myers

Hi,

A complete set of table base label form templates for OpenOffice (also 
work in Libre Office) are available at 
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm


Don

On 03/27/2012 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then upload them as templates to the official templates site? 
Regards from
Tom :) 



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From: Peter Hillier-Brookp...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not 
properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 10:40


On 26/03/12 22:20, Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Michael, Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)


There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into
updating label definitions in the labels.xcu file,

Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the
label.xcu file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.
Really cool! It is bug 44516.

...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically generated 
frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are tabular after all and 
this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and American 
Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The only drawback is 
in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages to meet output 
requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to program this as a 
replacement for the frame based system.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 27/03/12 12:28, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then 
upload them as templates to the official templates site?

[cut]

I did that years ago, together with a short tutorial although Google 
doesn't seem able to find it. I'm more than willing to upload again, if 
there's any demand.


Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, something on the official templates site
http://templates.libreoffice.org/
and hopefully a link to the WorldPress site would be perfect but only if you 
can spare the time.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not 
properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 16:33

On 27/03/12 12:28, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then 
 upload them as templates to the official templates site?
[cut]

I did that years ago, together with a short tutorial although Google doesn't 
seem able to find it. I'm more than willing to upload again, if there's any 
demand.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


There is a link to the .oxt template that the WorldLabel listed.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/add-ons-templates/OOoBlankLabels.oxt

Then there is a zipped file with these labels listed as individual 
files, in A4 and A5 [US letter] sizes.  I have download that one, but I 
do not know if people would rather use the template .oxt file or the 
individual files.


That web site sells the blank label sheets in more colors than I have 
seen in most places.


Actually take a look at the CD/DVD labels.  There are many different 
label diameters and center hole sizes.



On 03/27/2012 11:55 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ahh, something on the official templates site
http://templates.libreoffice.org/
and hopefully a link to the WorldPress site would be perfect but only if you can spare the time. 
Regards from

Tom :)


--- On Tue, 27/3/12, Peter Hillier-Brookp...@hbsys.plus.com  wrote:

From: Peter Hillier-Brookp...@hbsys.plus.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not 
properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 March, 2012, 16:33

On 27/03/12 12:28, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Trivial but time consuming?  Is anyone able to do a load of these and then 
upload them as templates to the official templates site?

[cut]

I did that years ago, together with a short tutorial although Google doesn't 
seem able to find it. I'm more than willing to upload again, if there's any 
demand.

Peter HB

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-27 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Peter,

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote (27-03-12 11:40)


...but it's still based, illogically in my view, on dynamically
generated frames, rather than the more obvious tables. Labels are
tabular after all and this frame fetish has frustrated me for some years.

For anyone interested, I made a set of tabular templates, both A4 and
American Letter sizes some years ago and they have served me well. The
only drawback is in replicating (or alternatively deleting) enough pages
to meet output requirements. It would be a fairly trivial exercise to
program this as a replacement for the frame based system.


Thanks for your work on these templates.
There is a nice advantage for the regular labels: the option to 
synchronise all labels with changes on the first label.


Regards,

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-26 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 22/03/12 21:23, Michael a écrit :

Hi Michael,

 I have created bug 47165  - label functionality for creating Avery Size 5267 
 (U.S) letter no longer works
 (version 3.5) it did work properly in version 3.3.2.  Is anyone looking into
 this?

There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into updating
label definitions in the labels.xcu file, and this should have been
integrated into the upcoming 3.5.2 version. Hopefully, that work might
cure the problem you are encountering.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Labels for Avery Size 5267 are not properly formatted in LibreOffice 3.5.0rc3

2012-03-26 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Michael, Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote (26-03-12 11:18)


There has been a rather substantial amount of work put into updating
label definitions in the labels.xcu file,


Indeed, one of the volunteer developers not inly changed the label.xcu 
file, but also improved the code handling all the stuff.

Really cool! It is bug 44516.


and this should have been integrated into the upcoming 3.5.2 version.
Hopefully, that work might cure the problem you are encountering.


For what I have seen end tested in a daily build: it does.
Integration is for 3.5.3 however.

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