[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
Mihamina Rakotomandimby schrieb: Have you heard about Gmane? You can have this list as newgroup with this. I'm posting to this list via Gmane successfully, as you can see. In contrary, posting to gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user.german and other lists does not work properly. I do not know why and do not have time to find it out. That is the main reason, why I personally support the OP for calling real native newsgroups. Besides, I also think it is the most useful way. But I guess most of those readers are used to Mailing Lists, although *I* don't like to blow up my Mailclient with hundreds of Postings... Greetings Stefan Gruber -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote: I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Dave, May I suggest you reread about Gmane? I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a newsgroup in Thunderbird. It's absolutely no different than when I read the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org. I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence. :-) -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
Ken, I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can with Ubuntu and Mepis? If I have all of the functionality of a regular NG, then I'm good to go. In the mean time, I'l have another look at Gmane. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote: I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis. Dave, May I suggest you reread about Gmane? I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a newsgroup in Thunderbird. It's absolutely no different than when I read the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org. I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence. :-) -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 9/26/11 9:47 AM, dave boland wrote: Ken, I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can with Ubuntu and Mepis? If I have all of the functionality of a regular NG, then I'm good to go. In the mean time, I'l have another look at Gmane. No apology necessary, Dave, I've misinterpreted/misread so many things in my life! LOL The answer is yes, you can post. That's how I do it. But, I do find the overall instructions via both LO and Gmane to be confusing, at least it was to me. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
+1 Stefan Gruber -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote: Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were changed, and there were acknowledged problems. Eventually, I had to completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything working. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
This is why I r e a l l y think that it is time to go to regular newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user. I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to subscribe. It is not worth the bother! Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups? It just seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it. Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote: Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were changed, and there were acknowledged problems. Eventually, I had to completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything working. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: This is why I r e a l l y think that it is time to go to regular newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user. I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to subscribe. It is not worth the bother! Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups? It just seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it. Absolutely not. I receive and read the e-mail messages and find them very useful. Like many others on this list, I dislike newsgroups and forums (fora?). If you like newsgroups, stick to gMane. jomail Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote: Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were changed, and there were acknowledged problems. Eventually, I had to completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything working. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:50 -0400, jomali wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote: This is why I r e a l l y think that it is time to go to regular newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user. I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to subscribe. It is not worth the bother! Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups? It just seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it. Absolutely not. I receive and read the e-mail messages and find them very useful. Like many others on this list, I dislike newsgroups and forums (fora?). If you like newsgroups, stick to gMane. jomail pl of forum in Latin is fori, you are thinking of forae, which is the genitive/plural ending for feminine nouns (usually end -a) and -um nouns are usually neuter. (If I remember my Latin from way back in the Dark Ages LOL) Dave, On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote: Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing. I've been subscribed to: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something needs to get fixed. A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were changed, and there were acknowledged problems. Eventually, I had to completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything working. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
Hi :) The home page is http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page The Documentation pages don't yet have an area like the Community Documentation for Ubuntu or other distros but i guess we could go that way. If you do a rough draft of a wiki-page then hopefully other people would tidy it up and give it a more professional look later on. The whole idea is that pages are worked on collaboratively, ie people add and change bits or even shift the page to somewhere more appropriate later. the rough draft would be enough to help with this particular question this time and then just see if people help with editing later :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 26/9/11, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 23:21 On 9/26/11 3:32 PM, drew wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Springer wrote: I'd like to get some feedback on the legitimacy of posting the instructions here. Maybe something from a moderator would be nice. :-) Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the wiki and then just post a link to the page here...? I've actually never been to the wiki! LOL So, I'm not sure I'd want to tackle that idea right now. :-) I *am* sure that if did something like that, I'd want to be more professional looking, sounding, and somewhat looking like other items on the wiki. And that would probably take more time than what I was going to do for Dave. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
Hi, Tom, On 9/26/11 6:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote: He wrote something... I was going to ask you a question, but it's not worth the time to edit your Yahoo post. :-) -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
I can get gmane to list all of the subscribed LO newsgroups and it contains all of the messages in this thread. Not sure how that happened, but... I'm not able to post to the group though, so this is of no value to me until I can. If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone (though some obviously disagree). I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't. I think this question needs a good answer. Dave, Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the wiki and then just post a link to the page here...? //drew -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 09/26/2011 06:56 PM, dave boland wrote: I can get gmane to list all of the subscribed LO newsgroups and it contains all of the messages in this thread. Not sure how that happened, but... I'm not able to post to the group though, so this is of no value to me until I can. If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone (though some obviously disagree). I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't. I think this question needs a good answer. They don't. alt.os.linux.ubuntu isn't in *any way* related to any Ubuntu list, group, forum et al. If you read the usenet charter it was simply started by folks that wanted a usenet group. Ubuntu user lists are available via gmane.org at: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user, as are nearly all the other Ubuntu lists: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ There's your answer. ... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 9/26/11 7:56 PM, dave boland wrote: If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone (though some obviously disagree). Let's see how simple I can make this work... :-) Let's start with this page: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg07354.html I think this will give you my first message about having Gmane sending issues. Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help. If not, I'll do something else. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 09/27/2011 05:42 AM, NoOp wrote: I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't. I think this question needs a good answer. They don't. alt.os.linux.ubuntu isn't in*any way* related to any Ubuntu list, group, forum et al. If you read the usenet charter it was simply started by folks that wanted a usenet group. Ubuntu user lists are available via gmane.org at: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user, as are nearly all the other Ubuntu lists: By the way, if Dave thinks it _is_ a must to have a regular newsgroup, why wouldn't he start one and see? He assumes to know several things, but is just speaking. Dave, act! -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 09/27/2011 05:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote: Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help. He wants to read only through NNTP (regular newsgroup), he doesn't want to use Web. Please provide him a nntp://; URL otherwise he wont read it :-) Dave, by the way: do you know that Ubuntu WebForums (duh!) are also very famous? So why not a phpBB based fprum for LO? Just like Ubuntu... -- RMA. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
On 9/26/11 9:12 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 09/27/2011 05:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote: Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help. He wants to read only through NNTP (regular newsgroup), he doesn't want to use Web. Please provide him a nntp://; URL otherwise he wont read it :-) I wasn't asking him to read the entire newsgroup, just that thread to see if it helps him solve his Gmane problem. As for an nntp URL address, I haven't figured out how to pry that out of Thunderbird. Of course, you could have helped and given him the address. :-) Or, he could use this web address for reading just the thread, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/6638, and it will look a lot like reading via a newsgroup reader. I just now found this feature in Gmane. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
