Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/06/2013 05:54 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Please keep in mind, that the color list is used in many places in the UI. If there are too many colors, it might make the dialogs and the color bar unusable. System performance is not affected, when 50K colours are in the palette. It is affected when things akin to _The Ultimate Colour Palette_, whose URL I posted the other day, are installed. (If you really want to use that as for your daily work, I hope you have about 1 TB of RAM reserved for LibO.) Once there are more than around 200 colours in the palette, the major issue is finding the specific colour. How the palette is organized can make the difference between finding the colour, and not finding it. The three major ways of organizing the palette are: * By RGB or CYMK value; * By name in English, or other language; * By placement in the rainbow; Sorting by RGB, CYMK or name is fairly simple. Sorting by placement in the rainbow is painstakingly time-consuming. For various reasons, most people seem to want the palettes to be be organized that way. jonathon * English - detected * English * English javascript:void(0); -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/06/2013 04:25 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Would someone like to have a copy of all of the colors that I have listed in my color chart page[s]? That list looks a lot like the standard palette that shipped with Oxygen Office. I could work on creating a standard.soc file that contains all of these colors. I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are levels of gray. What are the source(s) of the palettes in the PDF? (I just looked at it. ) I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has. I could also add any color name/code that LO uses, like LO Green2, or LO Blue2, etc., that are used in the documentation or on the web pages. I knew I was missing some colours in my palette. My section with the Colours of LibreOffice, and The Colours of Apache is missing. :( ### Why on earth was the RGB value display removed from the colour page? Crayloa Violet can be either #8359A3 or #800080 or #EE82EE? Normal Green is #006600 Protanopia Normal Green is 99,88,0; Deutanopia Normal Green is 109,84,24; Tritanoptia Normal Green is 45,95,102 Fortunately, I keep that set together. Part of how it keep my sanity, is by looking at those RGB values. But, if there are people who want such a list, then I will place it higher on my to-do list. It took me about thirty minutes to construct and test it. (I'm really out of practice, in constructing colour palettes. It should have taken me about a quarter of that time.) jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
I sent Jonathon a off list email containing attachments of HTML files for the PDF page of the color names. Also, since he listed the names of issues commonly called color blindness, I had a PDF print out of the standard colors and their versions for those color issues. It was a PDF printout of a web site, and included the page link. I do not have Oxygen Office, so I do not know what their palette was/is. I do not think I will try to install it either. YET, it seems to me that the text indicates that Oxygen Office has a much larger palette of colors. What is interesting is the fact that the the color editor shows the colors in RGB decimal and the standard.soc has the colors listed in RGB Hexadecimal. Since most color charts I have seen uses Hex, why does LO use decimal and then converts it to Hex for the color palettes? Crayola Violet - well if you have a source for all 64, 96, or 128 box of colors, then please let me know. That would be nice to have - in Hex - and have those colors as an addition to the color palette. Plus is you say that these are Crayola's colors, that might be useful for some artists. On 11/07/2013 06:12 AM, jonathon wrote: On 11/06/2013 04:25 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Would someone like to have a copy of all of the colors that I have listed in my color chart page[s]? That list looks a lot like the standard palette that shipped with Oxygen Office. I could work on creating a standard.soc file that contains all of these colors. I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are levels of gray. What are the source(s) of the palettes in the PDF? (I just looked at it. ) I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has. I could also add any color name/code that LO uses, like LO Green2, or LO Blue2, etc., that are used in the documentation or on the web pages. I knew I was missing some colours in my palette. My section with the Colours of LibreOffice, and The Colours of Apache is missing. :( ### Why on earth was the RGB value display removed from the colour page? Crayloa Violet can be either #8359A3 or #800080 or #EE82EE? Normal Green is #006600 Protanopia Normal Green is 99,88,0; Deutanopia Normal Green is 109,84,24; Tritanoptia Normal Green is 45,95,102 Fortunately, I keep that set together. Part of how it keep my sanity, is by looking at those RGB values. But, if there are people who want such a list, then I will place it higher on my to-do list. It took me about thirty minutes to construct and test it. (I'm really out of practice, in constructing colour palettes. It should have taken me about a quarter of that time.) jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
OK, I decided to place the new color palette on the top of my to-do list. I tested it out on Ubuntu 12.04 and LO 4.05. I took the original standard.soc and added the LO Branding colors, for the Wiki page, and then added the colors that were on my PDF file list of color names and Hex code. That makes 634 colors total. That includes the 100 different Gray levels that the list has. There may be some duplicate Hex codes from the original list and the newly added ones, but I add LO to the front of the Branding colors - i.e. LO Yellow 2, and -new to the end of the other new colors, which are in uppercase letters - i.e. CORAL 4-new, CORNFLOWER BLUE-new, CORNSILK 1-new. So anyone who want to try this new palette, save the original standard.soc as standard-original.soc, or something like that. Then take the new-palette---standard.soc and rename it standard.soc and place it in the folder that contain the original standard.soc file, as well as all the rest of the palette .soc files. Here is the link. http://libreoffice-na.us/new-palette---standard.soc Try it. You might like it. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/05/2013 05:15 PM, jonathon wrote: n 11/05/2013 02:01 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Can I just add these lines to that file? draw:color draw:name=Gold 1 draw:color=#FFD700/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 2 draw:color=#EEC900/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 3 draw:color=#CDAD00/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 4 draw:color=#8B7500/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod draw:color=#DAA520/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 1 draw:color=#FFC125/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 2 draw:color=#EEB422/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 3 draw:color=#CD9B1D/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 4 draw:color=#8B6914/ Yes. I have a list of many, many color names and their associated colors. What would happen if I added 50 or even 100 new colors to the color table? My recommendation is to keep the number of colours under 5,000. Whilst LibreOffice will load when the colour palette contains every colour betωeen 00 and FF, system performance is the absolute pits. So is there any reason why someone could change the standard.soc color list to include twice the colors, or even three times the current list? No. Are there any issues involved? The biggest issue to watch for, is that the format is precisely followed.A missing « », or, more commonly, a missing «», can cause all sorts of problems. The second issue is that one or two previous versions of LibO and AOO) have either cut the palette off, or replaced with the one that it ships with. When taht happens, you need to play with the data in the first line of the file, and figure what your soc has, that the default does not have, and what the default, that is not in your soc. Can a user like me add all of the known color names and their associated colors to the file and not have any issues pop up when displaying the color choices? When somebody else edits the ODF file, if they don't have the some colour palette installed, the colour is listed as user. jonathon Would someone like to have a copy of all of the colors that I have listed in my color chart page[s]? I could work on creating a standard.soc file that contains all of these colors. I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are levels of gray. If someone would like a text file list of these colors, I can send them a copy. I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has. I could also add any color name/code that LO uses, like LO Green2, or LO Blue2, etc., that are used in the documentation or on the web pages. But, if there are people who want such a list, then I will place it higher on my to-do list. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: [..] I could work on creating a standard.soc file that contains all of these colors. I have just over 500 color names and hex codes, though 100 are levels of gray. If someone would like a text file list of these colors, I can send them a copy. I may, when I have a bit of time, create an standard.soc file with all of these colors listed as a replacement for the original one that LO has. Please keep in mind, that the color list is used in many places in the UI. If there are too many colors, it might make the dialogs and the color bar unusable. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 2013-11-04 4:30 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 11/04/2013 03:47 PM, baldwin linguas wrote: You know, this has been bothering me for a while, but I've never brought it up: Why are our color options (for font color, highlight, table background, etc.) so limited? I confess, I know diddley about C++, but how hard would it be to get a color wheel, There is an option to include user defined colors. I know this, since I had to do it for the text color of the official brochure we were working on many months ago. Totally non-responsive to the question. I too have wondered on many occasion why the color wheel is not available right there, in the color picker, like it is on every other app I've ever used that allows you to apply colors to text. Having to manually create a custom color every time you want to try a color other than one of the few pre-defined choices is very time-consuming and very user UNfriendly. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/05/2013 12:32 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 19:29 04/11/2013 -0500, Tim Lungstrom wrote: Well, if I knew were the color listing is stored, ... Try user-profile/libreoffice/4/user/config/standard.soc (not that I'm suggesting that anyone should tinker this way). Brian Barker OK I see the list of colors listed there. NOW can anyone tell me any easy, and proper, way to add the colors to this config file without messing things up? These are a few colors defined in that file: draw:color draw:name=Bordeaux draw:color=#993366/ draw:color draw:name=Pale yellow draw:color=#cc/ draw:color draw:name=Pale green draw:color=#cc/ draw:color draw:name=Dark violet draw:color=#660066/ Can I just add these lines to that file? draw:color draw:name=Gold 1 draw:color=#FFD700/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 2 draw:color=#EEC900/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 3 draw:color=#CDAD00/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 4 draw:color=#8B7500/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod draw:color=#DAA520/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 1 draw:color=#FFC125/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 2 draw:color=#EEB422/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 3 draw:color=#CD9B1D/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 4 draw:color=#8B6914/ I have a list of many, many color names and their associated colors. What would happen if I added 50 or even 100 new colors to the color table? Check out th link of the PDF file that has all of these names and colors. If you need it, I can send to you a PDF file that shows the colors [two actually - one with a white background and one with a black one] http://libreoffice-na.us/colors-and-hex.pdf Anyone who has used packages like GIMP, Inkscape, and others that have a large color palette will want to have more choices that the small list defined as default within LO. So is there any reason why someone could change the standard.soc color list to include twice the colors, or even three times the current list? Are there any issues involved? Can a user like me add all of the known color names and their associated colors to the file and not have any issues pop up when displaying the color choices? By-the-way I did not make up those names and color codes. I found several lists of names/codes for HTML and CSS pages so you can have a really large range of colors for your text and backgrounds. I was originally a hand-coder of web sites - no WYSIWYG editor - so needing a set of reference sheets, for color and other things, was needed. So I found and developed a set of color sheets to use as guides. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: There is an option to include user defined colors. I know this, since I had to do it for the text color of the official brochure we were working on many months ago. Tools / Options / LibreOffice / Colors There are options for Add, Modify, Edit, and Delete colors in the color table. In that place you can only edit the current palette. For to get a different palette do this: In Draw or Impress use Format Area In Writer or Calc draw a dummy rectangle and choose Area from its context menu. Then go to dialog page 'Colors'. You will see options to load and save palettes. LO comes with a lot of additional palettes. The most useful ones are HTML, which contains some light colors and scribus which has compatible colors to Scribus and is the largest palette. So you can always add a new color to the list, and name it whatever you wish it to be. Yes, there are a low number of predefined colors, but I bet if someone would give a list of names and Hex codes for all of these non-listed colors then maybe they could be added to our font color selection. The standard color palette has got some more colors recently. If you want those in an older LO version it is enough to copy the file 'standard.soc'. Loading other palettes is tedious. So if you will use those colors often, you should rename the file 'standard.soc' to e.g. 'standard_orig.soc' and copy the file 'scribus.soc' to 'standard.soc'. The color files are located in the user directory in the folder 'Config'. The file name extension is .soc. It is a pure XML-format, that means, it is human readable. If you have damaged such file and will restore the original one, you can copy it from the installation directory, folder presets. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/05/2013 10:00 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: There is an option to include user defined colors. I know this, since I had to do it for the text color of the official brochure we were working on many months ago. Tools / Options / LibreOffice / Colors There are options for Add, Modify, Edit, and Delete colors in the color table. In that place you can only edit the current palette. For to get a different palette do this: In Draw or Impress use Format Area In Writer or Calc draw a dummy rectangle and choose Area from its context menu. Then go to dialog page 'Colors'. You will see options to load and save palettes. LO comes with a lot of additional palettes. The most useful ones are HTML, which contains some light colors and scribus which has compatible colors to Scribus and is the largest palette. So you can always add a new color to the list, and name it whatever you wish it to be. Yes, there are a low number of predefined colors, but I bet if someone would give a list of names and Hex codes for all of these non-listed colors then maybe they could be added to our font color selection. The standard color palette has got some more colors recently. If you want those in an older LO version it is enough to copy the file 'standard.soc'. Loading other palettes is tedious. So if you will use those colors often, you should rename the file 'standard.soc' to e.g. 'standard_orig.soc' and copy the file 'scribus.soc' to 'standard.soc'. The color files are located in the user directory in the folder 'Config'. The file name extension is .soc. It is a pure XML-format, that means, it is human readable. If you have damaged such file and will restore the original one, you can copy it from the installation directory, folder presets. Kind regards Regina I always keep a copy of the original configs before I do any edits.. Sometimes I call them something like .config (copy)--nov-03-2013 to state that the files were working well on that date. Then that config folder will be a part of my normal backup cycle as a working copy, just in case something goes wrong and then that bad .config folder gets backed up in the backup cycle. Still, it would be better to have all the color options that Draw and Impress has available for Writer's text colors. It would be nice to have the option to create a custom palette and switch from the Table : standard for font colors to : user defined or some other set of colors. As I stated before, the official brochure, that was developed months ago, had defined the font names and specific color[s] of the text. I had to add that color, manually, to my text color table. Yet, when I went to the 4.0.x line, the added colors were not carried over to the 4.0.x version. So I would have to re-enter the colors into the table again. Maybe having a user-defined color table would be a good thing. Maybe having the ability to choose between color tables for font and background colors would be a feature that would work for users like me. Whatever way it is done, we could use a better way for the user to add user-defined colors to LO so the user would have access to them for any document type [Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress] that is being created for themselves or their company. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: [..] Still, it would be better to have all the color options that Draw and Impress has available for Writer's text colors. It would be nice to have the option to create a custom palette and switch from the Table : standard for font colors to : user defined or some other set of colors. There is only one color palette active. When you have changed the palette or added colors in a Writer document by the way using a dummy draw object as I have described, then these new colors are not only available for drawings but for text color and background too. As I stated before, the official brochure, that was developed months ago, had defined the font names and specific color[s] of the text. I had to add that color, manually, to my text color table. Yet, when I went to the 4.0.x line, the added colors were not carried over to the 4.0.x version. So I would have to re-enter the colors into the table again. When you have added them, then they are in the file standard.soc of your old LO user directory. You would only need to copy that file to the new version to get the colors. Maybe having a user-defined color table would be a good thing. Color tables are always user-defined, they belong to the personal directory. Maybe having the ability to choose between color tables for font and background colors would be a feature that would work for users like me. Whatever way it is done, we could use a better way for the user to add user-defined colors to LO so the user would have access to them for any document type [Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress] that is being created for themselves or their company. There are some ways to add a own new color to the standard palette. The real problem is to use other palettes and to use colors you get from other persons. Their should not be any problem in a company, because the admin can deploy the palette with the additional company colors as 'standard.soc' to all LO user directories. But you are right, color handling needs improvement. And when you search in AOO Bugzilla, you will find a lot of enhancement requests, some nine years old :( Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
On 11/05/2013 12:29 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Well, if I knew were the color listing is stored, For Linux, the path is ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/config Libreoffice defaults to using standard.soc, but there are extensions which enable one to switch to a different pallet. i.e. the user defined colors, I would see about making a file or something that would have all of the colors that are listed on my linked PDF file. The basic structure of the colour palette file is: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? office:color-table xmlns:office=http://openoffice.org/2000/office; xmlns:style=http://openoffice.org/2000/style; xmlns:text=http://openoffice.org/2000/text; xmlns:table=http://openoffice.org/2000/table; xmlns:draw=http://openoffice.org/2000/drawing; xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format; xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; xmlns:dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; xmlns:meta=http://openoffice.org/2000/meta; xmlns:number=http://openoffice.org/2000/datastyle; xmlns:svg=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; xmlns:chart=http://openoffice.org/2000/chart; xmlns:dr3d=http://openoffice.org/2000/dr3d; xmlns:math=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML; xmlns:form=http://openoffice.org/2000/form; xmlns:script=http://openoffice.org/2000/script; !-- Eveything in the above angled brackets has to be included at the begining of the file. -- !-- comments in brackets like one -- !-- the following line is an example of what the data for the colour palette would look like. Instead of «name = #FF Red» line, the usual practice is to use «name = Red» -- draw:color draw:color=#FF draw:name=#FF Red / !-- eveything in the following angled brackets has to be the last line of the palette file -- /ooo:color-table So if someone could take this list of color names and color hex codes and add them to the color table or make a second table of colors for us to use. I can understand the reluctance to install the colour palette described at http://libreoffice-environment.blogspot.com/2011/11/ultimate-colour-palette-for-libreoffice.html Extension such as * http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/rgb (AOO); * http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/ooes-palette (AOO); * http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/escala-de-colores-colors-scale (AOO); * http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/zwahlendesign-color-palettes (AOO); * http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/parabolic-colour-palette (LibO); * http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/writer-copy-color (LibO); should make it easier for those who don't want to spend the time creating their own colour palette. So, is there a way to change the Table : standard to Table : user defined or a way to import a set of color names and RGB code? I don't remember what the name of the extension that enabled the user to select which .soc file to us, within Write, and Draw. (I don't rememkber if it also worked for Impress and Calc, but I'd like to assume that it did so.) :( I ask this, since I had a number of user defined colors that I typed in a number of months ago and none of them were saved from the 3.6.5[?] When one updates AOo or LibO, the existing standard.soc is overwritten. This means that the custom colours get deleted. this week, will I have to retype them in when I finally go to 4.1.4 or .5? I'd suggest saving the user/config file to your backup directory, then after installing the upgrade, copy it back, overwriting existing files. YES, having a color wheel would be nice for a color picker, Back before OOo 1.0 was released, there were requests for a colour picker to be included. For various reasons, that RFE has never been implemented. those that have defined text colors, like our official brochure's defined green text color, Doesn't the current colour palette include Libreoffice Green 1 through LibreOffice Green 4, etc., and the rest of the official LibreOffice colour palette? jonathon * English - detected * English * English javascript:void(0); -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
n 11/05/2013 02:01 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Can I just add these lines to that file? draw:color draw:name=Gold 1 draw:color=#FFD700/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 2 draw:color=#EEC900/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 3 draw:color=#CDAD00/ draw:color draw:name=Gold 4 draw:color=#8B7500/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod draw:color=#DAA520/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 1 draw:color=#FFC125/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 2 draw:color=#EEB422/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 3 draw:color=#CD9B1D/ draw:color draw:name=Goldenrod 4 draw:color=#8B6914/ Yes. I have a list of many, many color names and their associated colors. What would happen if I added 50 or even 100 new colors to the color table? My recommendation is to keep the number of colours under 5,000. Whilst LibreOffice will load when the colour palette contains every colour betωeen 00 and FF, system performance is the absolute pits. So is there any reason why someone could change the standard.soc color list to include twice the colors, or even three times the current list? No. Are there any issues involved? The biggest issue to watch for, is that the format is precisely followed.A missing « », or, more commonly, a missing «», can cause all sorts of problems. The second issue is that one or two previous versions of LibO and AOO) have either cut the palette off, or replaced with the one that it ships with. When taht happens, you need to play with the data in the first line of the file, and figure what your soc has, that the default does not have, and what the default, that is not in your soc. Can a user like me add all of the known color names and their associated colors to the file and not have any issues pop up when displaying the color choices? When somebody else edits the ODF file, if they don't have the some colour palette installed, the colour is listed as user. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi :) Doesn't matter how old some of those things are. Sun tried to minimise on development in order to keep the product more stable. LibreOffice develops fast. So i think a lot of these long-running issues are likely to get dealt with unless they are simply forgotten. So bumping such requests that are over 3 years old might grab some devs attention. I wonder if this one would be an Easy Hack? Regards from Tom :) On 5 November 2013 16:56, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi, Kracked_P_P---webmaster schrieb: [..] Still, it would be better to have all the color options that Draw and Impress has available for Writer's text colors. It would be nice to have the option to create a custom palette and switch from the Table : standard for font colors to : user defined or some other set of colors. There is only one color palette active. When you have changed the palette or added colors in a Writer document by the way using a dummy draw object as I have described, then these new colors are not only available for drawings but for text color and background too. As I stated before, the official brochure, that was developed months ago, had defined the font names and specific color[s] of the text. I had to add that color, manually, to my text color table. Yet, when I went to the 4.0.x line, the added colors were not carried over to the 4.0.x version. So I would have to re-enter the colors into the table again. When you have added them, then they are in the file standard.soc of your old LO user directory. You would only need to copy that file to the new version to get the colors. Maybe having a user-defined color table would be a good thing. Color tables are always user-defined, they belong to the personal directory. Maybe having the ability to choose between color tables for font and background colors would be a feature that would work for users like me. Whatever way it is done, we could use a better way for the user to add user-defined colors to LO so the user would have access to them for any document type [Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress] that is being created for themselves or their company. There are some ways to add a own new color to the standard palette. The real problem is to use other palettes and to use colors you get from other persons. Their should not be any problem in a company, because the admin can deploy the palette with the additional company colors as 'standard.soc' to all LO user directories. But you are right, color handling needs improvement. And when you search in AOO Bugzilla, you will find a lot of enhancement requests, some nine years old :( Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi Tanstaafl, Baldwin Is it possible for you 2 to collaborate on posting a bug-report / wish-list item about this? Tim from Kracked-Press was pointing out the functionality is kinda there in the back-end and the 'obvious' next step just doesn't seem to have been done yet. There might already be an existing wish-list item about getting a front-end for it or just a way of adding it to the UI in which case maybe that just needs a bump in some way. Regards from Tom :) On 5 November 2013 11:39, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-11-04 4:30 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 11/04/2013 03:47 PM, baldwin linguas wrote: You know, this has been bothering me for a while, but I've never brought it up: Why are our color options (for font color, highlight, table background, etc.) so limited? I confess, I know diddley about C++, but how hard would it be to get a color wheel, There is an option to include user defined colors. I know this, since I had to do it for the text color of the official brochure we were working on many months ago. Totally non-responsive to the question. I too have wondered on many occasion why the color wheel is not available right there, in the color picker, like it is on every other app I've ever used that allows you to apply colors to text. Having to manually create a custom color every time you want to try a color other than one of the few pre-defined choices is very time-consuming and very user UNfriendly. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
At 19:29 04/11/2013 -0500, Tim Lungstrom wrote: Well, if I knew were the color listing is stored, ... Try user-profile/libreoffice/4/user/config/standard.soc (not that I'm suggesting that anyone should tinker this way). Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] meager color options
Hi :) I'm glad to hear we have a wider range of colours than i thought. I'd really like to see a colour-wheel and hex input but the thing i miss most is a pipette to grab colour from anywhere on the screen. Gimp has one and i miss it in Draw. I've always assumed it was just waiting for someone to post a bug-report about. Regards from Tom :) On 4 November 2013 21:30, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: There is an option to include user defined colors. I know this, since I had to do it for the text color of the official brochure we were working on many months ago. Tools / Options / LibreOffice / Colors There are options for Add, Modify, Edit, and Delete colors in the color table. So you can always add a new color to the list, and name it whatever you wish it to be. Yes, there are a low number of predefined colors, but I bet if someone would give a list of names and Hex codes for all of these non-listed colors then maybe they could be added to our font color selection. I assume you want colors like this: ORANGE 1 #FFA500 ORANGE 2 #EE9A00 ORANGE 3 CD8500 ORANGE 4 #8B5A00 ORANGE RED 1 #FF4500 ORANGE RED 2 #EE4000 ORANGE RED 3 #CD3700 ORANGE RED 4 #8B2500 ORCHID #DA70D6 ORCHID 1 #FF83FA ORCHID 2 #EE7AE9 ORCHID 3 #CD69C9 ORCHID 4 #8B4789 PAPAYA WHIP #FFEFD5 PEACHPUFF 1 #FFDAB9 PEACHPUFF 2 #EECBAD PEACHPUFF 3 #CDAF95 PEACHPUFF 4 #8B7765 PINK #FFC0CB PINK 1 #FFB5C5 PINK 2 #EEA9B8 PINK 3 #CD919E PINK 4 #8B636C PLUM #DDA0DD PLUM 1 #FFBBFF PLUM 2 #EEAEEE PLUM 3 #CD96CD PLUM 4 #8B668B POWDER BLUE #B0E0E6 This is a 5 page list of names and colors - with 100 different Gray levels. http://libreoffice-na.us/colors-and-hex.pdf On 11/04/2013 03:47 PM, baldwin linguas wrote: You know, this has been bothering me for a while, but I've never brought it up: Why are our color options (for font color, highlight, table background, etc.) so limited? I confess, I know diddley about C++, but how hard would it be to get a color wheel, or some other means of choosing colors, say like available in Tk (tkinter, tcl/tk, etc. like shown here: http://zetcode.com/gui/tkinter/dialogs/ You can even enter a hexcode.) that would give us broader options? Should I make a feature request? Has nobody else never thought of this? Or am I missing something, and we have broader options than I think (we have 112 colors to choose from for fonts, 6 of which are white). Maybe a plugin using tcl/tk or python/tkinter wouldn't be too hard to make? (I've played with tcl/tk and python/tkinter, but never trying to make something to work with a larger project as a plugin, so not sure how that works). I love my LO (and OOo before it), but this has long occured to me as a glaring oversight, or something. Frankly, having not used any proprietary office suite for more than 5 minutes in the past decade, I don't know what options they have for such features, but it seems to me that it would be better to have more flexibility in this regard, and it shouldn't be overly complex to implement (unless I'm sorely mistaken). Tony -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
