Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
-users] top- or bottom- quoting On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 04:36:49PM -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: : Is there something wrong with educating new users? Only that it takes some effort, like bottom posting, being courteous

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 09:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it depends on how you educate new users. If we continue to be rude demand that new new users obey 1 certain way of doing things before we even consider helping them then i think that is unlikely to enamour people. Perhaps when

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Tom Davies wrote (16-02-11 09:38) I think it depends on how you educate new users. Indeed. Showing them how handy correct quoting and replying is. Nearly all people can understand that. Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
February, 2011 23:47:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting Le 15/02/2011 18:38, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) Bottom, Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email) posts at the top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 14:51, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at the

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk
W dniu 11-02-16 14:51, TVCSF Chair pisze: Some people obviously prefer to have comments at the bottom, good on them, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same things. But everyone read texts from top to bottom. From primary school to last days. Specjally with latin letters,

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Dave, Le 16/02/2011 12:44, Tom Davies a écrit : Sadly we have to deal with the world as it is rather than the way we would like it to be. Sure. Does this mean we won't try to educate them? Far more people use the wonderful MicroSoft products such as Outlook than use all the

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-15 12:38 PM, Tom Davies wrote: The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office users? Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users? You don't have to alienate them... just some gentle prodding in the beginning is enough for most people,

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-16 8:51 AM, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:29:17PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, i wasn't saying that anyone was deliberately unfriendly but i think we need to have better ways of dealing with top-posters because we often give an appearance of rudeness. Check this site:

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Check this site: http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html especially the part about curt answers. I have often practiced exactly that sort of discussion - but usually on the technical users' lists. If we want

[libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
Hi, When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. Luuk -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive:

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Luuk, Am 15.02.2011 16:13, schrieb Luuk: When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. Please refer to this:

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 15/02/11 15:15, Matthew Young wrote: Hi, I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the text right on top. No it doesn't - I'm using TBird and it's set to bottom post. Do you read a book from the bottom up? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Colin J. Williams
On 15-Feb-11 10:13 AM, Luuk wrote: Hi, When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. Luuk +1 It would be better if this were set up as a USENET Group.

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
top-quoting fixed On 15-02-11 16:15, Matthew Young wrote: On 02/15/2011 09:13 AM, Luuk wrote: Hi, When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. Luuk Hi,

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Luuk
On 15-02-11 17:00, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi, Matthew Young wrote (15-02-11 16:15) I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the text right on top. When you hit the space bar, Thunderbird scrolls down in the text of the message.. no, i get a message Advance to next

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Luuk, Luuk wrote (15-02-11 17:06) On 15-02-11 17:00, Cor Nouws wrote: Matthew Young wrote (15-02-11 16:15) I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the text right on top. When you hit the space bar, Thunderbird scrolls down in the text of the message.. no, i

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 15 February 2011 09:15, Matthew Young rs.matthewcom.i...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the text right on top. Clients which top-quote (thanks to M$'s Outlook which started the trend) are fundamentally broken. -- T. R. Valentine

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:38:16PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email) posts at the top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along with any signatures. Some corporate users get all the previous thread