Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Watch a talk on "The Future of Programming"

[Farhaan Bukhsh]

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Kushal Das  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the link for the talk:
>
> https://vimeo.com/71278954
>
> After you watched the talk, please share your views in the this thread.

Okay first thing first I am huge fan of Bret, his ideas and his thought
process is crazy and out of the box.
For people who don't know about him check out his website[1]. The next
thing is he goes on to talk about
Alan Kay's ideas and the way he approached programming. The funny part is a
lot of us are good programmers but
we think that it is monotonous. Let me tell you programming is an art, the
way you think decides what kind of and what
quality of things you make.

I think we are very reluctant to evolve to accept new ideas, to fail. We
shouldn't be that and I like that about Bret he goes into
the depth of it. More over I love that fact the he started with 1963 and
was trying us to show the picture that we are still stuck back in time.

[1]: worrydream.com
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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Creating useless things

[Ashwani Gupta]

> Hi all,
>
> Next video in the queue
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16ew1iP_Eo
>
> Kushal
Amazing video. For me the takeaways from this video will be if you
really like to build something, you should not shy away from
implementing your idea into reality, even if sounds stupid. And more
importantly you should share it with other people. Who knows if people
surprisingly appreciate your work which you thought to be useless.

I always thought that people get to know everything about something and
then apply their knowledge. But recently I realized I was wrong.
Learning by doing is the best way of learning. This video relates to
that point too. Loved it.

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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Creating useless things

[Pradhvan Bisht]

On 10 August 2017 at 12:21, Kushal Das  wrote:

> On 10/08/17, Gaurav Sitlani wrote:
> > On Aug 10, 2017 11:23 AM, "Kushal Das"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Next video in the queue
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16ew1iP_Eo
> >
>
> I am not sure how do you write emails, but the tool could not quote the
> original mail properly.
>
>
> >
> >
> > Nice Video , this time hope I'm sending this mail right as last one was a
> > top post.
> >
> > People get a lot of ideas , whatever it is good or bad but sometimes they
> > have a habit of over thinking and they don't really tend to implement
> their
> > idea.
> > The major thing I got to learn from this video is Never Give up and don't
> > stop being creative.
>
> Correct, and it becomes somewhat easier when you are only dealing with
> code. A similar example can be all the small stupid code which we write
> to learn how things work, or just to have fun with computers.
>
> That also brings the point of writing and reading code regularly.
>
>
>
> > I want to share a small experience.
> > Please bear with me.
> > It was a month back when I started planning for my final year project.
> > I had got an idea of developing a software through which I can control
> the
> > mouse pointer by my hand and perform normal mouse related operations.
> > But just a day before my first technical review I saw an exact same
> project
> > on github which was implemented in C++.
> > I gave up , next day at the time of my review another group of my
> > classmates who had heard of my idea added more functionality over it .
> > Finally I faced a rejection that was because I gave up at that moment not
> > because of the fact that someone performed better than me.
> >
> > Even my idea was not that good was actually something worth working on.
> > If anyone faces a similar kind of situation (I hope you never have to)
> > please don't give up just build what you want, for the fun part at least.
> > That can help in boosting the confidence level and will develop a sense
> of
> > accomplishment.
> > My idea got rejected but anyway I'll build it .Please do suggest some
> > functionality that I can add .
>
> Release the initial code with documentation and a proper license first,
> so that people can actually test and see what did you do. New features
> can come later. Remember to release early and release often.
>
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The video was inspiring and one quote I really like from the video was
"Ideas first , tools later " because that's how most of the self taught
programmers learn they learn by doing and building what they love.

Ps : This is my first post in the mailing list, hope I am doing it right.

Regards
Pradhvan Bisht
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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Creating useless things

[Robin Schubert]

 Hi,
>
> As usual please share your thoughts.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewAC5X_CZ8
>

I had to watch it twice, she's talking quite fast ;) but it was worth 
it, cool projects and a great attitude :D
It's true that humor can be a great defense against harassment, still it 
doesn't leave you unharmed. I love to see how Jenn Schiffer deals with 
this and I wish that strength for every person that's being bullied or 
hassled otherwise.



Hi all,

Next video in the queue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16ew1iP_Eo

Kushal


Another woman full of energy and with an important line. Many 
discoveries and inventions that are crucial today have been explored 
without any thought of use, just for personal interest. I found this 
interesting article [1] talking about a paper [2] that was published in 
1939(!), that deals with this very same issue.


[1]: 
https://www.brainpickings.org/2012/07/27/the-usefulness-of-useless-knowledge/

[2]: https://library.ias.edu/files/UsefulnessHarpers.pdf
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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Creating useless things

[SOUMAM BANERJEE]

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Gaurav Sitlani
 wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2017 11:23 AM, "Kushal Das"  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Next video in the queue
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16ew1iP_Eo
>
> Kushal
>
>
>
> Nice Video , this time hope I'm sending this mail right as last one was a
> top post.
>
> People get a lot of ideas , whatever it is good or bad but sometimes they
> have a habit of over thinking and they don't really tend to implement their
> idea.
> The major thing I got to learn from this video is Never Give up and don't
> stop being creative.
> I want to share a small experience.
> Please bear with me.
> It was a month back when I started planning for my final year project.
> I had got an idea of developing a software through which I can control the
> mouse pointer by my hand and perform normal mouse related operations.
> But just a day before my first technical review I saw an exact same project
> on github which was implemented in C++.
> I gave up , next day at the time of my review another group of my
> classmates who had heard of my idea added more functionality over it .
> Finally I faced a rejection that was because I gave up at that moment not
> because of the fact that someone performed better than me.
>
> Even my idea was not that good was actually something worth working on.
> If anyone faces a similar kind of situation (I hope you never have to)
> please don't give up just build what you want, for the fun part at least.
> That can help in boosting the confidence level and will develop a sense of
> accomplishment.
> My idea got rejected but anyway I'll build it .Please do suggest some
> functionality that I can add .
>
> Amazing video.
>
>
> Gaurav Sitlani

Nicely written Gaurav Sitani .Thanks for sharing :)
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Re: [dgplug-users] [SUMMERTRAINING] Creating useless things

[Kushal Das]

On 10/08/17, Gaurav Sitlani wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2017 11:23 AM, "Kushal Das"  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Next video in the queue
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16ew1iP_Eo
> 

I am not sure how do you write emails, but the tool could not quote the
original mail properly.

 
> 
> 
> Nice Video , this time hope I'm sending this mail right as last one was a
> top post.
> 
> People get a lot of ideas , whatever it is good or bad but sometimes they
> have a habit of over thinking and they don't really tend to implement their
> idea.
> The major thing I got to learn from this video is Never Give up and don't
> stop being creative.

Correct, and it becomes somewhat easier when you are only dealing with
code. A similar example can be all the small stupid code which we write
to learn how things work, or just to have fun with computers.

That also brings the point of writing and reading code regularly.



> I want to share a small experience.
> Please bear with me.
> It was a month back when I started planning for my final year project.
> I had got an idea of developing a software through which I can control the
> mouse pointer by my hand and perform normal mouse related operations.
> But just a day before my first technical review I saw an exact same project
> on github which was implemented in C++.
> I gave up , next day at the time of my review another group of my
> classmates who had heard of my idea added more functionality over it .
> Finally I faced a rejection that was because I gave up at that moment not
> because of the fact that someone performed better than me.
> 
> Even my idea was not that good was actually something worth working on.
> If anyone faces a similar kind of situation (I hope you never have to)
> please don't give up just build what you want, for the fun part at least.
> That can help in boosting the confidence level and will develop a sense of
> accomplishment.
> My idea got rejected but anyway I'll build it .Please do suggest some
> functionality that I can add .

Release the initial code with documentation and a proper license first,
so that people can actually test and see what did you do. New features
can come later. Remember to release early and release often.

Kushal
-- 
Fedora Cloud Engineer
CPython Core Developer
https://kushaldas.in
https://dgplug.org
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