Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: A...you poor thing. Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. Oh, sorry. Heck, I was gonna pitch in and help by adding that link to XKCD with the worlds smallest violin. As

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 10:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Climb down from your high horse for a moment and stop being so much a word police and the defender of anyone with a fedoraproject.org email address. If I (or anyone else) can't use a simple BS without the

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:48 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: AFAIK this is a function of 'sudo'. It asks you the first time and remembers for a few minutes after. I've never seen this behaviour other than with sudo. Umm, perhaps you mean su. The sudo command does not

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 01:45 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:39 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/27/2010 01:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? I don't see

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux open source-related blog planets) over a period of several months, as well as

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't want this to be a best effort affair either. Either he undertakes the job full time or not at all. As part of the project I would also hope that he updates the list guidelines to indicate what words or phrases that we are not to use. I can

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux open source-related blog

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:09 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: I thought torrent was precisely invented for this kind of purpose. I also held the opinion that torrent is by far the number one method of getting Fedora, or any other Linux distro for that

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: A...you poor thing. Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. Oh, sorry. Heck, I was gonna pitch in and help by adding that link to XKCD with the worlds smallest violin. As

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, g wrote: Jud Craft wrote: I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously snip true to form. 38 complaints about no link to torrents, of which only 1 poster, #26, provides a hot link in his post. for me, it is easy to find because i have both

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I was just there 3 minutes ago Rahul, and there is still as yet, no way to follow that site to a get torrents page, and the site Patience. The patch was just submitted sometime back and it takes time to get it synced, translations updated etc.

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:47 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by recording it in a file? I'm not interested in argumentation. It does not remember passwords, period. I am not sure how you can declare

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:15:08 -0400, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: So far, no other 'tone' has gotten anyones attention. The website is a disaster Rahul, you should admit it, and take steps to get it fixed if you have that

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Then I guess I am a rude person Bruno. I am not a developer, I'm 50 years too late for that, I wrote my ground breaking SW 15 to 30+ years ago. You don't have to be a developer to provide constructive feedback or even contribute to improving a

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 11:47 AM, Mike McCarty wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by recording it in a file? I'm not interested in argumentation. It does not remember passwords, period. I am not

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 03:02:25 -0400, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Then I guess I am a rude person Bruno. I am not a developer, I'm 50 years too late for that, I wrote my ground breaking SW 15 to 30+ years ago. There are lots of things you can do on Fedora without being a

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:09 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I have seen claims on this list that the root password is remembered for a small amount of time so you don't keep getting asked. That has never worked for me, but I assumed it was just because I was running a non-standard session and was missing

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 02:46 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/27/2010 11:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't want this to be a best effort affair either. Either he undertakes the job full time or not at all. As part of the project I would also hope that he updates the list guidelines to indicate what

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 01:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Then what precisely are you offering to do when you said I don't see the need for being a list moderator to point this out but if you want me to play that role, I can take that up.? It was a potential consideration on a best effort basis. Noone

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/26/2010 05:37 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: I run the proprietary, closed source nvidia driver in F12. What happens when I upgrade to F13 ? The short answer is that you may have to boot in vesafb mode and install the driver using that. If that doesn't work booting in

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Rahul Sundaram wrote: I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't CC me. On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: All programs which prompt for, and receive, passwords in clear text form go to extra lengths to make sure that they do NOT remember passwords in any form Mike, Refer to the

proftpd/vsftpd + LDAP

2010-05-27 Thread Łukasz Jagiełło
Hi, I'm using the LDAP for auth users at FTP service. Want to create configuration for users where everyone who connect need to be at LDAP but can use any password (for developers who doesn't want left own password at code). Thats make in PAM and it's working. Problem is when I try auto create

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Chris Kloiber
nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second monitor) and the second screen to the left of the first, you are still

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 02:42 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm aware of that information. Well, it seems that I was not clear enough in my statement. There is no lack of clarity. When people refer to sudo remembering passwords, they are certainly referring to the functionality and not the

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike McCarty wrote: [...] $ sudo ls -l /var/run/sudo/jmccarty total 8 -rw--- 1 root root 0 May 14 12:47 13 -rw--- 1 root root 0 Apr 23 03:23 18 -rw--- 1 root root 0 May 21 16:03 24 -rw--- 1 root root 0 May 26 15:07 33 -rw--- 1 root root 0 May 27 02:55 36

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Haley
On 05/27/2010 10:15 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote: nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second monitor) and the second

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 02:45 PM, Chris Kloiber wrote: nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second monitor) and the second

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Andrew Parker
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/27/2010 02:42 PM, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm aware of that information. Well, it seems that I was not clear enough in my statement. There is no lack of clarity.   When people refer to sudo remembering passwords,

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-27 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Dear Christopher, I have sent countless emails to many governmental, non-governmental and international organizations in the world with the subject Plea for Medical Help/Assistance. But surprisingly I get very few replies. Maybe the replies have been deleted or the emails I sent have been

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 03:30 PM, Andrew Parker wrote: I disagree. Nit picking details in this industry is essential for progress and understanding. Defending flawed terminology that imply security holes when they don't exist is foolish. I would like to thank Mike for his explanations, I for one have

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: Today I was running system-config-printer to install all the various printers around here at work on a freshly installed fedora 13 system running as a brand new user in a standard gnome session. As with other PolicyKit-enabled

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-27 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 05/26/2010 01:16 PM, Rector, David wrote: Hello, I have studied various filesystems, and am fairly familiar with how they are structured. However, I am currently stuck on trying to do what seems like a simple thing. I would like to join two files together

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 03:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: What you are now finding out, is that the _users_ are not happy campers. This whole affair is reminding me of this banking advert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnzhSXJzt6s (Pissed off client versus don't want to care service.) --

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Costa
Hi Máirín, 2010/5/27 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 19:58 -0300, Andre Costa wrote: First of all: I do appreciate all the effort in making the download page easier to newbies, and I recognize a lot of thought has been spent in doing so. However, it doesn't

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 18:02 +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Dear Christopher, I have sent countless emails to many governmental, non-governmental and international organizations in the world with the subject Plea for Medical Help/Assistance. But surprisingly I get very few

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Richard Allen r...@ra.is wrote: I still have to test my ID titles (Wolf, Quake, Doom) and then CC Tiberium wars and RA3 under wine ;)   If it passes those tests, I'm sticking with the Open Source drivers Please report back how those titles work with open

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Martin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 05:15:07AM -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: nouveau does work fine... If you have one screen, or two screens and like spanning desktops (with the second to the right of the first). If you (like I) prefer separate desktops (so I can put a virtual machine on the second

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 01:17 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: No, I mean sudo. In the default config it prompts for the user's password. But the OP asked about root password, not the user's password. And I replied in order to help him with his underlying need, which is not to know the root

Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Martin
Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the F13 live image I accidentally did the following dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 which returned nearly immediately and now I have no data on the disk. The disk is 750 gig , of which about 400 is used. I am hoping

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 02:27 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: The fellow I responded to is contributing to a thread which concerns precise differences between how different tools handle security. He already wrote one inaccurate statement, from which I infer that he is not writing very clearly, and

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, Mike Martin redt...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the F13 live image I accidentally did the following dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 which returned nearly immediately and now

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-27 Thread Linuxguy123
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 05:15 -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: I tried out nouveau recently as I was experiencing tearing of the portions of the screen when scrolling firefox with a window partially on top of firefox and was hoping it was the driver. Unfortunately nouveau has the same problem.

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/27/2010 02:07 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, Mike Martin redt...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the F13 live image I accidentally did the following dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512

does anyone tested ATI proprietary driver on FC13 ?

2010-05-27 Thread Jatin K
Dear all, does anyone successfully installed ATI Proprietary driver (ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run package ) on FC13 ? I've installed fc13 on my dell laptop with ATI Radeon HD 5450 Series 1GB memory display card . I'm unable to enable desktop effects output of_* lspci | VGA*_

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike Martin wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the F13 live image I accidentally did the following dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 which returned nearly immediately and now I have no data on the disk. Which is a sick feeling. There isn't

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 09:41 -0300, Andre Costa wrote: Ok, that's better. Still, I would suggest to make it a little more explicit. You see, when I didn't find the link to the torrents right away, my first reaction was to CTRL+F for torrent. I talked to the folks in #fedora on IRC for a while

Re: Live CD without a CD reader?

2010-05-27 Thread Mike McCarty
Timothy Murphy wrote: As a matter of interest, is there any way of running the Fedora-13 KDE Live CD from the ISO file, on a machine without a CD reader? There are several virtualization packages which can do that, but it'll be a guest, and not running natively. You'd still have to boot

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:19 +0930, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 03:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: What you are now finding out, is that the _users_ are not happy campers. This whole affair is reminding me of this banking advert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnzhSXJzt6s (Pissed off

Re: Live CD without a CD reader?

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 07:10 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: As a matter of interest, is there any way of running the Fedora-13 KDE Live CD from the ISO file, on a machine without a CD reader? You can use a USB key. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-media/ I remixed some Fedora graphics to create new

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread David Liguori
On 5/26/2010 2:56 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:31 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:47:10 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: Would have been nice to hear your feedback last october: Kind of reminds me of Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy,

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
Tim: This whole affair is reminding me of this banking advert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnzhSXJzt6s (Pissed off client versus don't want to care service.) Máirín Duffy: Does it end with the clerk getting shot in the head and being told they are a waste of human life like the other

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 09:54 -0400, David Liguori wrote: Seriously, it seems a lot of web site users found what they wanted exactly as I did, using Google. I'm sorry, but saying users savvy enough to use Torrent, or whatever, are smart enough to use Google is a cop out. Of course, it should

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Andre Costa
Hi Máirín, 2010/5/27 Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 09:41 -0300, Andre Costa wrote: Ok, that's better. Still, I would suggest to make it a little more explicit. You see, when I didn't find the link to the torrents right away, my first reaction was to CTRL+F

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread David Liguori
On 5/25/2010 12:54 PM, Jud Craft wrote: I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously explained, but I can't see anything related to it in Fedora-list, -devel, -desktop, or -advisory. So here goes. What happened to the Get Fedora page? It was beautiful. Now it's a big

Re: Live CD without a CD reader?

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:40:04 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: As a matter of interest, is there any way of running the Fedora-13 KDE Live CD from the ISO file, on a machine without a CD reader? The DOS version of GRUB claims to have the ability to boot from a virtual CD provided by an ISO image.

Re: Live CD without a CD reader?

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 14:40 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: As a matter of interest, is there any way of running the Fedora-13 KDE Live CD from the ISO file, on a machine without a CD reader? It's easy to create a bootable pendrive with the image on it. Install liveusb-creator (to create Live

F13, Pulseaudio, Rhythmbox hangs

2010-05-27 Thread Steven Stern
Every now and again, as it switches from one song to another, Rhythmbox stops playing. It cannot be quit itself and must be killed via a force quit. Here's what's in the logs at the time it locks up. This occurs on a system upgraded from F12 to F13. May 27 09:43:02 sds-desk pulseaudio[2031]:

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thursday 27 May 2010 06:53 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Philip Heron
OK, not quite on fire but produced a nasty burning smell. Turns out the fan in my card had failed a while back and I never noticed. It was clogged up with dust and wouldn't budge. This is my work machine and it runs Windows, and other than my screen saver crashing there was no ill effect. I

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-me dia/ I remixed some Fedora graphics to create new CD/DVD labels. Hope you enjoy them,

Re: does anyone tested ATI proprietary driver on FC13 ?

2010-05-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Jatin, On Thursday 27 May 2010 06:19 AM, Jatin K wrote: Dear all, does anyone successfully installed ATI Proprietary driver (ati-driver-installer-10-5-x86.x86_64.run package ) on FC13 ? I've installed fc13 on my dell laptop with ATI Radeon HD 5450 Series 1GB memory display card . I'm

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/27/2010 07:51 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Of course this wouldn't have happened if the fan hadn't failed, but still makes me wonder why there was such a different between Windows and Fedora? I don't believe that the Free drivers feature any power management functions of NVidia hardware,

Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-27 Thread Mercury Rising
Cent OS 5.4 loaded with error messages. One was BIOS 1999 and I have a 1997 BIOS. I get a command line and help brings up a list. Is there a manual for Cent OS? On 5/20/10, Gilboa Davara gilb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Mercury Rising mercuryrisin...@gmail.com

Re: Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-27 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-me dia/ I

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Gene Heskett wrote: snip Which is generally being drowned out by the fussing about the poorly composed pages at the get fedora site. lol. i agree on that. it has even gotten to a point that it is screwing up the list handler. i now have 6 duped emails, 5 from you, 1 from rahul. :) i still

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, g gel...@bellsouth.net said: i still contend that all the *BS* bitching about no links is fault of those who would rather have something to bitch about than make a simple bookmark in their browser so they would know where to look for what they want and not have to use google.

Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Diehl
Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when plugged in? dmesg shows the following: usb

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, g gel...@bellsouth.net said: i still contend that all the *BS* bitching about no links is fault of those who would rather have something to bitch about than make a simple bookmark in their browser so they would know where to look for what they want and not

Re: graphics card on fire

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/27/2010 08:58 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/27/2010 07:51 AM, Philip Heron wrote: Of course this wouldn't have happened if the fan hadn't failed, but still makes me wonder why there was such a different between Windows and Fedora? I don't believe that the Free drivers

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread jack craig
On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or whatever it takes to get this to automount when

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 05/27/2010 10:39 AM, jack craig wrote: On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally. Does anyone have instructions for adding udev rules or

fedora 13 Invalid or unsupported executable format

2010-05-27 Thread oleksandr korneta
Hello, I'm trying to install fedora 13 from DVD iso. I've mounted the iso, copied initrd.img and vmlinuz from Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso/isolinux to my /boot and fixed grub.conf. I put the Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso into my home directory, and put images (copied from the same .iso) directory

Re: Seagate USB disk does not automount

2010-05-27 Thread jack craig
On 05/27/2010 11:03 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: On 05/27/2010 10:39 AM, jack craig wrote: On 05/27/2010 09:48 AM, Tom Diehl wrote: Hi, I have a new seagate external USB disk that does not mount when plugged in to my F-12 machine. I can mount it by hand and access it normally.

Re: fedora 13 Invalid or unsupported executable format

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 05/27/2010 02:25 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install fedora 13 from DVD iso. I've mounted the iso, copied initrd.img and vmlinuz from Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso/isolinux to my /boot and fixed grub.conf. I put the Fedora-13-x86_64-DVD.iso into my home directory,

F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Frank Elsner
Hello, using F13/GNOME I really don't like that a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. This is really annoying if it a disk I want to overwrite. Where can I disable this behavier? I want to mount it by myself. Greetings, Frank Elsner -- users mailing list

Re: fedora 13 Invalid or unsupported executable format

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:37:29 -0400 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: title Fedora 13 install root (hd0,5) kernel /boot/F13vmlinuz ro This is a rather bare kernel line. Compare it to the kernel line from F12 above. You probably need to specify at *least* the root= part as

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:00 +, g wrote: If people are asking these questions here, it shows that there is a need for more/better information on the Fedora site. it is not 'the Fedora site', it is a new page written too hastily and probably by a developer who's ass was worn out

K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Jim
FC12-x86_64 Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio files were orignally wav files before they were converted to MP3s. This kind of looks like a Microsoft DRM thing that K3B is doing. --

Replying to digest with threading (was: Re: Regarding Get Fedora page)

2010-05-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
Darr wrote: Sorry this isn't 'threaded' correctly... I get only the digest and when replying to messages from the archives the 'from' link at the top leads only to mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org rather than mailto:us...@lists.fedoraproject.org?in-reply-/ To=[message-ID of email]. I

Re: K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Jim wrote: FC12-x86_64 Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio files were orignally wav files before they were converted to MP3s. This kind of looks like a

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, Mike Martin redt...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the F13 live image I accidentally did the following dd if=/dev/zero

AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi, I just noticed that if I enable the adobe repository, the AdobeReader quickly gets pulled in when installing the flash plugin on a 64 bit machine, since it seems to be providing libstdc++.so.6. This just seems a little bit suspect to me. Eg. if I run yum -v install nspluginwrapper.x86_64

Re: qemu nic missing after F13 upgrade

2010-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Hi all, after my upgrade to F13, everything is working fine except that the instance of WindowsXP that I run under qemu can no longer see any network card. It does not appear in the Windows network control panel. If I run ps ax | grep qemu, I see: How

I am receiving a AUTHENTICATION FAILED error while trying to use empathy IM Clint

2010-05-27 Thread Lloyd Lee
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regarding get fedora

2010-05-27 Thread terry
On 05/26/2010 05:24 PM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Complaining after the fact is the only possible response available when something you couldn't imagine happening in your wildest dreams is foisted on you. You can't spend 24 hours a day trying to guess what cliques of

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Greg Woods wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. Where can I disable this behavier? System - Preferences - File Management - Media Does this really work for you? I have mine set that

Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:01:09 +0100, Jonathan wrote: Hi, I just noticed that if I enable the adobe repository, the AdobeReader quickly gets pulled in when installing the flash plugin on a 64 bit machine, since it seems to be providing libstdc++.so.6. This just seems a little bit suspect to

Re: I am receiving a AUTHENTICATION FAILED error while trying to use empathy IM Clint

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
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Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 27 May 2010 23:00, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: It's a packaging mistake in a package that hasn't seen much testing. If they include local copies of libs like libstdc++, they ought to filter the RPM Provides. They also provide several other libs, not limited to libgcc_s.so.1

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:35 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: System - Preferences - File Management - Media Does this really work for you? I have mine set that way and when I put in a CD it is still read, mounted, the ISO label is read off the disk, and an icon displayed on the desktop

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100,   Mike Martin redt...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi when I was trying (and failing) to get a bootable pen-drive, with the

Re: AdobeReader_sve providing libstdc++.so.6 - malicious?

2010-05-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 May 2010 22:01:09 +0100 Jonathan Underwood wrote: It seems a little like Adobe is trying to install Reader via a backdoor dependency? Nah, they just have the same problem everyone else has who tries to provie a repo that will work on a gazillion different linux distros. They can't

Re: F12-F13 DVD Upgrade fails [SOLVED?]

2010-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
[For the full story, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596387] I decided to try installing via a boot.iso disk, so I created a bootable pendrive containing boot.iso and fired it up using the askmethod incantation (BTW the docmentation on how to do this is deficient; I'll file a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Far be it from me to prolong this already over-extended thread, i agree, not just because it has caused a 'burp' from list server, but because it has gone from ridiculous to sublime. but if you read it from the beginning that isn't at all what happened. The

Re: F13: Do not mount CD/DVD when inserted into drive

2010-05-27 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 27 May 2010 17:50:35 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: Greg Woods wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 21:12 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: a CD or DVD gets automatically mounted when inserted into the cd/DVD drive. Where can I disable this behavier? System - Preferences - File Management

Re: Recover stupid mistake

2010-05-27 Thread Larry Brower
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom H wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 13:32:51 +0100, Mike Martin redt...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi when I was

Re: K3b won't accept converted Wav files from MP3

2010-05-27 Thread Jim
On 05/27/2010 05:01 PM, Michael Miles wrote: On 05/27/2010 12:57 PM, Jim wrote: FC12-x86_64 Used Sound Converter to convert MP3 audio files to WAV files , but K3b , make Audio CD, won't accept converted WAV files for Burning. The audio files were orignally wav files before they were

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2010 06:56 AM, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Someone took a conscious decision to remove the torrent link for what seemed to them good reasons, which is why i stated that users should bookmark pages and http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

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