Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Hiisi
to, 2010-11-25 kello 17:40 -0700, James McKenzie kirjoitti: > Before the days of Linux, I had an OS/2 system that was up for two > years. I had to shut it down to move it from the United States to > Korea. It ran there for months and months. Not all Operating > Systems > are as unstable as Wi

Re: Any Dittoheads out there?

2010-11-25 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 15:53 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > No flames please. This is a technical question. > > I download podcasts with a script that runs after 11pm > (Satelite internet). Is it possible to get the URL for the day's show > by scraping the member's page or compute it?. Needless t

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Greg Woods
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:07 -0800, Michael Miles wrote: > > I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0. ;-) > > > > > > > > > --

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread James McKenzie
On 11/25/10 7:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Thu, 11/25/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> [snip] >>> Another reason, I'm looking for Long Time Support in >> my next OS. >> I stayed on FC4 for similar reasons, until I could go to >> better hardware and >> FC13, and I st

Re: Any Dittoheads out there?

2010-11-25 Thread bruce
hey. it's doable. you're going to have to determine how much work is required. it might be as easy as looking at the html from the browser. it might be as difficult as firing up livehttp headers, and creating a script that simulates some ugly clientside javscript with multiple cookies. bottom l

Re: No manual entry for opendir

2010-11-25 Thread Yunchi Wang
It works~thx~[?] 2010/11/26 Clive Hills > yum install man-pages will supply that need. > Clive > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproj

Re: No manual entry for opendir

2010-11-25 Thread Clive Hills
yum install man-pages will supply that need. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

No manual entry for opendir

2010-11-25 Thread Yunchi Wang
Hi friends! I'm a new hand of linux, now I have meet a problem: when i search for opendir with man, it tell me "No manual entry for opendir".But on my ubuntu, it can display it.My OS if FC14.Thx! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: F14 Anaconda language options

2010-11-25 Thread Chris Smart
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Chris Smart wrote: > Hi all, > > In previous versions of Fedora I was able to pass the lang and keymap > options at boot to by-pass the need to select them later in Anaconda. > This is important because Australian English is not in the list for me > to select, so

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > [snip] > > Another reason, I'm looking for Long Time Support in > my next OS. > > > I stayed on FC4 for similar reasons, until I could go to > better hardware and > FC13, and I still run XP in a VM for one application. I > k

Re: Mailman tutorial

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/25/2010 10:35 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> I have never set up Apache to use a system with cgi-bin, it was >> always automated for me. I can go on with 'new' stuff; that is why I >> was looking for a RECENT tutorial (I am finding them for like >> FC3-5). >>

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > --- On Sun, 11/14/10, Bill Davidsen  > wrote: > > > >> Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> [snip] > >>> > >>> That's okay as long as the OS is "current" > when it is > >> installed and will be supported for those 5 years > or > >> so

Re: Mailman tutorial

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/25/2010 10:16 AM, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:04:13 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > [] > >> I have never set up Apache to use a system with cgi-bin, it was always >> automated for me. I can go on with 'new' stuff; that is why I was >> looking for a RECENT tutorial

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Landor .
> On a puny netbook. Yes, F12 is pretty stable. > (I'm cheating a little, because this netbook goes to sleep every day. > But still...) > I found Fedora 12 very stable throughout its lifecycle, and enjoyable to use on my netbook (ASUS 1005HA). I skipped the 13 release and now have 14 on it, though

Re: kickstart user and the --gecos option

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/25/2010 01:31 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > JB wrote: > >> Robert Moskowitz htt-consult.com> writes: >> >> >>> ... >>> >> They are (for Linux): >> full name, office, office phone, home phone >> >> Kickstart option: >> --gecos= >> Provides the GECOS information for the

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread James McKenzie
On 11/25/10 5:29 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > On 11/25/10, Hiisi wrote: > >> To the topic: F12 seems to became more stable recently. My current >> uptime is 12 days, 14:55 which is remarkable for this specific >> configuration/hardware. > [si...@pici dl]$ uptime > 01:23:47 up 309 days, 1:43, 7 us

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/25/10, Hiisi wrote: > To the topic: F12 seems to became more stable recently. My current > uptime is 12 days, 14:55 which is remarkable for this specific > configuration/hardware. [si...@pici dl]$ uptime 01:23:47 up 309 days, 1:43, 7 users, load average: 0.26, 0.33, 0.27 On a puny net

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread James McKenzie
On 11/25/10 3:46 PM, Hiisi wrote: > To the topic: F12 seems to became more stable recently. My current > uptime is 12 days, 14:55 which is remarkable for this specific > configuration/hardware. How long will it take for FC14 to become 'stable'. One of the reasons is that FC12 is nearing EOL thus n

Re: Any Dittoheads out there?

2010-11-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Geoffrey Leach writes: No flames please. This is a technical question. I download podcasts with a script that runs after 11pm (Satelite internet). Is it possible to get the URL for the day's show by scraping the member's page or compute it?. Needless to say, their tech suport has no idea wha

Any Dittoheads out there?

2010-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Leach
No flames please. This is a technical question. I download podcasts with a script that runs after 11pm (Satelite internet). Is it possible to get the URL for the day's show by scraping the member's page or compute it?. Needless to say, their tech suport has no idea what I am trying to do. Than

F14 Anaconda language options

2010-11-25 Thread Chris Smart
Hi all, In previous versions of Fedora I was able to pass the lang and keymap options at boot to by-pass the need to select them later in Anaconda. This is important because Australian English is not in the list for me to select, so it gets overridden to US English. Also, previously, I has to pass

Re: Virtualbox, F14 and External USB disk

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Miles
Alain Roger wrote: > Hi, > > my host is Windows 7 x64 and i have installed VirtualBox latest version. > in VirtualBox i have a guest F14 with latest updates. > > when i connect my external USB disk to PC, VirtualBox detects it and > make it available for guest (F14) as Mass storage. > However, und

Re: Problm with icons on desktop

2010-11-25 Thread Hiisi
to, 2010-11-25 kello 08:38 -0600, Aaron Konstam kirjoitti: > A question occurred to me. What configs would you coy from the virgin > user? Maybe I missed the one I need to copy. I only had this problem once a few releases ago with .bash_profile (when I messed my own trying to customize it). I wo

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread James McKenzie
On 11/25/10 11:50 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > If xen goes in mainline, and it is certainly on track to do so, then > Fedora 15 > (or 16 at the latest) may offer it again. It allows operation on processors > which lack HVM, which is not only old gear (my Celeron systems and laptops), > but > altern

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Hiisi
to, 2010-11-25 kello 13:55 -0500, Bill Davidsen kirjoitti: > I stayed on FC4 for similar reasons, until I could go to better > hardware and > FC13, and I still run XP in a VM for one application. I know where you > are > coming from. > > I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread James McKenzie
On 11/25/10 12:07 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > > >I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0 > > > That's just too funny bro. > I laughed my butt off. > > > > Don't let your 1.0 see that though > I'm on 2.0. 1.0 passed away. Nothing funny about that. However,

twm configuration

2010-11-25 Thread Hiisi
Dear all! I would like to use twm. As described in wiki [1] I'm typing xinit -e /usr/bin/twm in runlevel 3 to fire it up. It tries to start and first window titled 'LOGIN' appears at the left up corner of the screen. However it never asks me for username/passwd. It only states few times this warnin

Virtualbox, F14 and External USB disk

2010-11-25 Thread Alain Roger
Hi, my host is Windows 7 x64 and i have installed VirtualBox latest version. in VirtualBox i have a guest F14 with latest updates. when i connect my external USB disk to PC, VirtualBox detects it and make it available for guest (F14) as Mass storage. However, under F14 i'm not able to find this d

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/2010 10:55 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I stayed on FC4 for similar reasons, until I could go to better hardware and > FC13, and I still run XP in a VM for one application. I know where you are > coming from. > > I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0. ;-) I still have W

Re: Yum - Different OS version and Arch

2010-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/2010 11:08 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Programs which have no known bugs, particularly those in > bash, perl, python, or similar, don't need to be changed. > Maybe we need a tag, similar to noarch for packages that aren't version specific. Possibly "nover," for "no version" would do the

/var/cache/yum format

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
I'm somewhat confused by the many things found in vcy. On some machines there are directories for fedora, and updates, and no architecture notation. On some the same data is found in i386/14 or similar, while on other in i686/i386/14 has the same stuff. Is there rhyme or reason to this? And sho

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Michael Miles
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> --- On Sun, 11/14/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >> >>> Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> >>> Since FC6 (I've been using Fedora since Core 3), I've >>> only upgraded with every third release--6-9-12. I >>> think it wast

Re: Yum - Different OS version and Arch

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Sawrub wrote: >On 11/14/2010 03:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:33:10 +0530, Sawrub wrote: >> >>> Running Fedora 14 x86_64, i was trying to search for a package using >>> YUM. The search results lists multiple versions [Fc12, Fc13, Fc14] and >>> different arch [i686

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Sun, 11/14/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >>> Since FC6 (I've been using Fedora since Core 3), I've >> only upgraded with every third release--6-9-12. I >> think it wasteful of time and energy to upgrade any >> faster. It takes almost the 6

Re: End of life for FC12?

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Sun, 11/14/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> That's okay as long as the OS is "current" when it is >> installed and will be supported for those 5 years or >> so. (I'm not a cutting edge type of person. It >> matters little to me

Re: Contents of install DVD vs CDs

2010-11-25 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > [snip] > >> I ask this because I just installed an Amahi > system using a local repo > >> built from the install CDs and many of the > dependencies for Amahi are > >> NOT met during the install.  They, for the > most part, get picked up later. > >> 

Re: Wireless

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear folks, > > I am having a difficult time connecting at decent speeds to a wireless network > setup by my nephew with Fedora 14. I installed Fedora 14 on a quad core > machine > that had Fedora 12 happily running. IT has a built in wireless device > integrated in it.

Re: kickstart user and the --gecos option

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
JB wrote: > Robert Moskowitz htt-consult.com> writes: > >> ... > > They are (for Linux): > full name, office, office phone, home phone > > Kickstart option: > --gecos= > Provides the GECOS information for the user. This is a string of various > system-specific fields separated by a comma. It

f14 and keypad

2010-11-25 Thread Alain Roger
Hi yesterday i installed F14 x64 for the first time. i'm surprised but under F13 the keypad worked perfectly and now under F14 it doesn't at all. i did the same installation as usual so i don't understand. is there a bug ? thx. -- Alain --

Is anybody using Xournal? -- I have questions, and want recommendations.

2010-11-25 Thread William Case
Hi; I am about to download Xournal, but before I try it out maybe I can get a few questions answered. I am currently reading a 260 page PDF document. I would like to be able to make the equivalent of margin notes to myself. I have and use gnotes and NoteCase each for different purposes. I woul

Re: Home icon on gnome panel

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 08:43 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 17:22 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > After some unsuccessful attempts to put a Home icon on a Gnome panel, I > > came up with the following funky solution: put an application launcher > > to nautilus on the panel an

Re: Home icon on gnome panel

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 23:41 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 17:22 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > After some unsuccessful attempts to put a Home icon on a Gnome panel > > ... which you didn't outline. > > Did you try the obvious: Pick a home folder somewhere on the desktop, > the on

Re: Mailman tutorial

2010-11-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have never set up Apache to use a system with cgi-bin, it was > always automated for me. I can go on with 'new' stuff; that is why I > was looking for a RECENT tutorial (I am finding them for like > FC3-5). I usually find such howtos are filled with a lot of useless and

Re: Mailman tutorial

2010-11-25 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:04:13 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: [] > I have never set up Apache to use a system with cgi-bin, it was always > automated for me. I can go on with 'new' stuff; that is why I was > looking for a RECENT tutorial (I am finding them for like FC3-5). I don'

Re: Problm with icons on desktop

2010-11-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 20:25 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:33 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Unfortunately the .desktop_is_home_dir is unclicked annd it does no > > good. > > Hmm, tried the Windows method? Change the setting, change it back > again, log out and back in again... >

Re: Home icon on gnome panel

2010-11-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 17:22 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > After some unsuccessful attempts to put a Home icon on a Gnome panel, I > came up with the following funky solution: put an application launcher > to nautilus on the panel and change the icon appearance from the > nautilus shell to home-l

Re: Problm with icons on desktop

2010-11-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 16:22 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:48 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > > ke, 2010-11-24 kello 13:33 -0600, Aaron Konstam kirjoitti: > > > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 04:55 +1030, Tim wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 10:34 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > > Sudd

Using ionice -c3 in f13: system seems less responsive than under f12

2010-11-25 Thread John Pilkington
Hi: My system spends a lot of its time processing video data, often with not much numerical processing involved - just remuxing or making an iso image. atop often shows disk activity above 90%. I do most of this using ionice -c3, (ie 'idle' scheduling) which is supposed to reduce impact on o

Re: Home icon on gnome panel

2010-11-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 17:22 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > After some unsuccessful attempts to put a Home icon on a Gnome panel ... which you didn't outline. Did you try the obvious: Pick a home folder somewhere on the desktop, the one on the desktop, or one in the places menu, then drag and d

Re: Distorted audio in Firefox -- another memcpy bug hiding somewhere?

2010-11-25 Thread Simon Andrews
On 13/11/2010 18:53, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After upgrading to F14 on x86_64 I'm getting distorted audio in some > situations. Mostly playing /some/ flash audio. This was discussed in > https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-5739 and our bug 638477, with the > conclusion being a bug in the 64 bit

Re: Problm with icons on desktop

2010-11-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:33 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Unfortunately the .desktop_is_home_dir is unclicked annd it does no > good. Hmm, tried the Windows method? Change the setting, change it back again, log out and back in again... You put your config files in, you take your config file