Re: Oracle Gives OpenOffice back

2011-04-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:10:06 -0400 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Sounds as though the need for LibreOffice is about over, we don't need two project if Oracle is serious about having letting OO go. The people at LO are mostly former OO developers, so hopefully the projects could be

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Andrew Haley
On 17/04/11 02:37, JD wrote: Keep in mind that all the developers have regular jobs besides hacking linux, Not all of them. :-) so they are not there to jump at our beck and call. That's true, though. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: Oracle Gives OpenOffice back

2011-04-18 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Sounds as though the need for LibreOffice is about over, There was never a need for LibreOffice. Only competing companies wishing to wrest control of the project away from Oracle, like Novell wanted to do for a long time to

2 questions

2011-04-18 Thread mattias
How to disable gnome-keyring becuase the screen reader orca dosen't liek the password dialog E.g when i connect to a lan And Exist gtkpod for fedora or must i compile? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/17/2011 08:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: For the last couple of days or so - my mirror script (I tried a couple of mirror sites) seems to keep deleting everything and re-downloading each time it runs ... Mirror script keeps a local copy from which I update all my machines here. It

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dave Cross
On 15 April 2011 21:38, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. What kind of hosting company installs an

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org wrote: Hello, I have been using Ubuntu for a couple of years, and I am increasingly unhappy with it. I must say I don't blame you. I'd rather use Apple than Ubuntu, myself. I dislike the Ubuntu One integration, I think

Re: [OT Humor] Obviously designed by morons

2011-04-18 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 16:11 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: So, if I change the front door to my house, does that mean the toilet stops working and I have to change my stove from Natural Gas to Electric? No. Yes, if they're designed by Microsoft... (Could not resist) -- [tim@localhost ~]$

Re: 2 questions

2011-04-18 Thread Steve Searle
Around 11:24am on Monday, April 18, 2011 (UK time), mattias scrawled: Exist gtkpod for fedora or must i compile? It exists. $ yum search gtkpod ... gtkpod.x86_64 : Graphical song management program for Apple's iPod ... Steve -- Website: www.stevesearle.com Twitter: @ReddishShift

RE: [OT Humor] Obviously designed by morons

2011-04-18 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:26 PM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: [OT Humor] Obviously designed by morons On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 16:11

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
But dual and triple boot with two drives is workable. Actually a gazillion boot system with only one drive is workable: I had about 17 different linuxes on a box at work, all sharing a single small /boot partition by doing a dd command to copy out one /boot and copy in another when I wanted to

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
Thanks, Dave. I have initiated the cancellation process, and the vendor has informed me that I will receive the refund in 7-10 days. If that happens, I don't think that I should name the company, and I hate naming names, to begin with. Best. --Dante On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Dave Cross

Re: Reasons for choosing Fedora over Debian

2011-04-18 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Roger are...@bigpond.com writes: Hi Nikolaus I'm thinking that you could make yourself a list of what apps you would like to have and another of what apps you really need to do your thing for both and compare. I have not found the problem you mention, of apps for one that are not on another.

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has been unsupported for three years? One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just been copying the original fedora 6 image they setup when they started using the

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has been unsupported for three years? One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just been

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/18/2011 08:04 AM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: and what filesystem have your server??? ext3 maybe this parameter from man rsync helps you: --modify-window When comparing two timestamps, rsync treats the timestamps as being equal if they differ by no more than the

Postfix, procmail, and permissions

2011-04-18 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm setting up a new fc14 system to use procmail and postfix, but delivery fails with the following: Apr 18 09:20:12 mail02t postfix/qmgr[8004]: 3FEA26003D: from=mu...@bwimail02t.guardiandigital.com, size=868, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Apr 18 09:20:12 mail02t postfix/local[8022]: 3FEA26003D:

f14 inaccessible when configuring LDAP authentication (nsswitch.conf not working as expected?)

2011-04-18 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
I want authentication against local openldap server. After several unsuccessful attempts configure sssd I uninstall sssd-* stuff and configure things with pam_ldap/nss_ldap (fortunately when not installed sssd, then system-config-authentication seems configure /etc/pam.d/* files correctly). But my

[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.8.2 Testing

2011-04-18 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 Project team is pleased to announce the release of 389-ds-base-1.2.8.2. This release has fixes for bugs found in 1.2.8 testing and bugs from earlier releases. Installation yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds # or for EPEL yum install --enablerepo=epel-testing 389-ds

Re: Mouse-wheel nudge left-right now generates key-presses, not buttons 6+7

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 03/31/2011 04:58 AM, Neil Bird wrote: Since upgrading to Fedora 14 from 12, I'm seeing my wheel-mouse generating the *key* presses Left and Right instead of the expected button clicks button-6 and button-7. This means that while it still works in, say, Firefox (where Left and

Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . Is the settings setup in Thunderbird Preferences Attachments ? If so How do I get the Firefox4 in Attachments ? -- users mailing list

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Andy Blanchard zoc...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core 6 was released at the tail end of 2006! That kind of OS age might be OK in Microsoft shops where you

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread Joachim Backes
On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . Is the settings setup in Thunderbird Preferences Attachments ? If so How do I get the Firefox4 in

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com mailto:dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core 6 was released at

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com mailto:dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:21 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
On 04/18/2011 12:21 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: On 04/18/2011 04:57 PM, james tate wrote: F14/KDE Using Fedora 14 with Firefox4. If I click on a URL link in a Thunderbird email, to open it with Firefox4, it won't open in Firefox4 . Is the settings setup in Thunderbird Preferences

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread james tate
On 04/18/2011 12:26 PM, JD wrote: System-Preferences-Preferred Applications Sorry JD , but are you using Gnome or KDE ? I'm using KDE. There is no setting like that in KDE4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Open URL links from thunderbird - To open Firefox4

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:34 AM, james tate wrote: On 04/18/2011 12:26 PM, JD wrote: System-Preferences-Preferred Applications Sorry JD , but are you using Gnome or KDE ? I'm using KDE. There is no setting like that in KDE4 Gnome! Another user had posted the settings for KDE, but that was a few days

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/15/2011 02:48 PM, Dante Conti wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante Jumping back in at the top... Since you're provisioning a server, you'd really be

Re: Cannot do KDE Graphic login

2011-04-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 09:21:03 PM Chris Smart wrote: It will show [the acron thingy], if they pass a vga option though.. Which option is that? Would be cool to get the real splash screen on boot instead of the text bars. In fact, one should install akmod, instead of kmod, so that

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 06:18 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: This may be a dumb question, but since it hasn't actually come up yet... Are we *certain* the hosting company in question installed Fedora v6 and not the current release (also v6) of Red Hat Enterprise Linux? The OP has since stated that the

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 06:19 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: I did actually double check that ntp was working correctly and that the time matched the correct time onhttp://www.time.gov/widget.html. Thanx for the url; I didn't know about that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've already proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Moving to a new

Re: Guidelines for a noob

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2011 09:45 PM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote: Hi: Thanks for the link but I don't see how to fix my trouble or what to do, there is a lot of info. u_u Take a look At this bugzilla.

Re: How gain access to DocumentRoot contents of Apache-httpd through a Web browser which is set to point to the Home folder of the User?

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2011 08:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 11:12 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Heh, thought I might be out of date here.. I think that the correct context for home directory web content is now httpd_user_content_t (although I think

Re: [Errno 5] Input/output error

2011-04-18 Thread Leon Legorreta
I'm trying to update packages are only 33MB 2011/4/17 charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com -- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Leon Legorreta leon.legorr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I hope you can help me, I have a problem to update my

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: For the last couple of days or so - my mirror script (I tried a couple of mirror sites) seems to keep deleting everything and re-downloading each time it runs ... Mirror script keeps a local copy from which I update

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/18/2011 03:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: .. rsync -avz --delete --delete-excluded --hard-links No, what options are you using to rsync. I do a similar thing, but selectively to save bandwidth. I copy stuff

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've already proven themselves to

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 03:50 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/17/2011 09:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: ..    rsync -avz --delete --delete-excluded --hard-links No, what options are you using to rsync. I

Re: Who took my beep?

2011-04-18 Thread Göran Uddeborg
Patrick O'Callaghan: Try asking on the Fedora Test list, which is where F15 is discussed. Right, that would be more appropriate. Sorry for the spam. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

gweather and radar maps

2011-04-18 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonsoir, I use this radar map for weather in France in gweather applet: http://pda.meteox.fr/images.aspx?jaar=-3voor=soort=loop3uur256c=frn= Does anyone know something like this for weather in India? Thanks. - -- François Patte UFR de

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 21:58, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO.  Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 16:00:10 -0400, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: Mirror is site is mirrors.kernel.org at tha moment - this script has been running for a few years now without change ... not that I wouldn't change it to fix this of course ... mirrors.kernel.org is

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 18 April 2011 21:58, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that

Re: Separate /usr partition

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/15/2011 02:59 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: Not even 1% of the programs in /usr/bin are relevant to the boot process. You need those, such libraries from /usr/lib (or /usr/lib64) that they need, some bits from /usr/share (/usr/share/hwdata in particular), probably a few more bits and pieces

Re: rsync from mirror - problem

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/18/2011 08:19 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 04/18/2011 08:04 AM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: and what filesystem have your server??? ext3 Possibly - except if it was a time stamp issue - why would it delete the file - that should trigger a check and the file contents would be

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 22:46, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 18 April 2011 21:58, JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO.  Not

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service means that you get little if any support included and (as we see here) you may get

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service means that you get little if any support

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 03:07 PM, JD wrote: Guys, I do not mean to say that the hosting copanies that are good are NOT worth the cost. I only meant you have to shell out what they ask. I may be a tad less optimistic: expensive hosting companies may or may not be worth the cost, but cheap ones are

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 23:07, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for.  Going with the cheapest possible hosting

assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed?

2011-04-18 Thread Christoph A.
Hi, it seams that something got broken on my f13 system. Several applications crash when trying to start: $ system-config-services /usr/bin/system-config-services:149: Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed **{attrname: column}) /usr/bin/system-config-services:498:

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/17/2011 03:53 PM, JD wrote: Well, it is a bit strange that Google would set up their servers so that my machine tries to download latest messages by sending it's request to pop.gmail.com (74.125.127.109) to port 995, and receive reply from a different IP address. How can I configure my

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 05:05 PM, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: On 04/17/2011 03:53 PM, JD wrote: Well, it is a bit strange that Google would set up their servers so that my machine tries to download latest messages by sending it's request to pop.gmail.com (74.125.127.109) to port 995, and receive reply from

Re: iptables questions

2011-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ramirez
On 04/18/2011 07:13 PM, JD wrote: Could very well be a harmless bug. I was also wondering if the bug is caused by the client request being broadcast to all 3 gmail servers, and one of them quickly responds, and one or both of the other 2, which are apparently not notified that the response

Re: reading AOL Mail in Fedora

2011-04-18 Thread edik landave
If you are running KDE, you also can use KMail without installing anything else. Just follow the procedures outline on their POP3 or IMAP email you will be ready in a few minutes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: [Errno 5] Input/output error

2011-04-18 Thread charles zeitler
-- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Leon Legorreta leon.legorr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to update packages are only 33MB how's your swap holding out? if that's not the problem, try a fsck on vg_leon-LogVol00, vg_leon-LogVol03 and