On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:32 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:51 PM Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> > >
> > > to, 2021-04-29 kello 23:38 +0300, Matti Pulkkinen kirjoitti:
> > >
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:51 PM Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> >
> > to, 2021-04-29 kello 23:38 +0300, Matti Pulkkinen kirjoitti:
> > > In the installer the keymap was definitely the Finnish one. It's only
> > >
making sure the resulting installation works, and installer folks
know more about the potential trouble spots below the installer.
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:40 PM Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
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> to, 2021-04-29 kello 13:54 -0600, Chris Murphy kirjoitti:
> > I guess I'm confused about why US keymapping is needed to enter the
> > LUKS passphrase during boot. The keymappings need to be the same for
&g
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 6:41 AM Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
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> ke, 2021-04-28 kello 21:49 -0600, Chris Murphy kirjoitti:
> > Could you provide details about the installation choices made related
> > to language and key mapping? Was it also a Finnish keyboard being
> > used
>
ation choices made related
to language and key mapping? Was it also a Finnish keyboard being used
during the installation? And can you provide either the linux command
line from grub.cfg or from /proc/cmdline from the booted system if
you're able to get it booted?
release period, and others weren't yet
merged upstream, so I think all of this happened because of that. And
it'll likely get cleaned up once there's a 248.1 or whatever.
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tion for Btrfs, which is it'll reuse an existing
Btrfs, but it requires a new subvolume (created by the installer) for
'/' mount point. That way it's possible to do a clean install while
reusing a subvolume for /home.
[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1885102
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henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021, Chris Murphy wrote:
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> > You need to use -B to bind mount the pseudo filesystems, and probably
> also
> > need to include /sys
>
> > grub2-install
ably also
> need to include /sys
>
>
> grub2-install /dev/sda3
> grub2-mkconfig > /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> exit # out of chroot?
>
> reboot
>
> Should work?
grub2-install /dev/sda
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to create partitions automatically. Install.
Two independent backups for anything important.
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l: journalctl -b > /path/to/rw/mount/journal.log
And then post the journal.log and /etc/fstab somewhere.
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mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
> The UUID not found is used by the F33 live DVD.
> Changing sda3's UUID to that seems a bad idea.
It is. You should use 'sudo blkid' and find out what UUID is on sda3
and put that into fstab for /
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command is used for a live install.
08:18:29,672 INF program: Running... rsync -pogAXtlHrDx --exclude
/dev/ --exclude /proc/ --exclude /tmp/* --exclude /sys/ --exclude
/run/ --exclude /boot/*rescue* --exclude /boot/loader/ --exclude
/boot/efi/loader/ --exclude /etc/machine-id /run/install/source
ter then that maybe could become the default for
Windows guests. I don't expect unsafe could ever be a default.
https://documentation.suse.com/sles/11-SP4/html/SLES-kvm4zseries/cha-qemu-cachemodes.html
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> On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 23:52 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > It's not an SMR concern, it's making sure the drive gives up on
> > errors
> > faster than the kernel tries to reset due to what it think
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> On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 18:00 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Nothing to add but the usual caveats:
> > https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Timeout_Mismatch
>
> That´s pretty scary, though the drives I´m using a
I'm writing can be compressed
50%, and the device maxes out at 35 M/s writes, in effect I get 70 M/s
writes. Latency per IO is still the same, but again less writes means
less IO competition so there's still some gain even on the latency
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g multiple snapshots. It'll tell you about all of the
instances of the files sharing that one bad block.
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it should just skip those (with some noise) and
continue on. If not then I've got an idea for a work around.
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gt; to the end of the command (ie / in my case). It would help people like me
> from getting confused and hopefully bring in more casual tinkerers trying the
> new change out.
>
> Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback, I've updated that section.
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file system, because the whole tree must be created and written before
the mount can complete. For me on a full 1T file system it took
*maybe* 1 minute.)
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anything.
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D is it goes read-only. Not the file system, the drive - and this
too is totally silent in my handful of experiences with this failure
mode, happily accepts all write command without error but none of them
are persistent. Another mode of SSD failure that's common is, it just
vanishes off the bus. D
of any kind is not normal, the
source should be found. Persistent stats are also retained in the file
system metadata, retrievable by:
btrfs device stats /mntpoint or /dev/ node(s)
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and work to find the trends and then
publish it and maintain it.
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./15/./22 -n
standby,250
Since it's unmounted, fatrace won't work, but blktrace will..
blktrace -d /dev/sdb -o - | blkparse -i -
It will generate a lot of lines but it'll also report the process
that's sending commands to the drive.
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stupidly doing too many fsync:
>system-nspawn --system-call-filter='~sync:0 fsync:0'
That is awesome! Way easier to deal with than eatmydata.
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:26 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> The problem is well understood for some time.
> https://lwn.net/Articles/572911/
This is an update on that 8 year old story. Last year writebehind
patches were proposed, and a discussion ensued.
https://lore.kernel.org/linu
. Try:
$ sudo modprobe xfs
Now try mount. Does that work?
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 7:26 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> The defaults are crazy.
> https://lwn.net/Articles/572921/
>
> Does this really make a difference though outside the slow USB stick
> example? I don't know. Seems like it won't for fsync heavy handedness
> because th
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 6:39 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:05 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Append writes are the same on overwriting and cow file systems. You
>> might get slightly higher iowait because datacow means datasum which
>> means more metad
0 but double check that, there's w and W and one of them
controls write cache, the other is dangerous.
$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/69-hdparm.rules
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", \
KERNEL=="sd*[!0-9]", \
ENV{ID_SERIAL_SHORT}=="WDZ47F0A&quo
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 8:59 AM Roberto Ragusa wrote:
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> On 3/25/21 4:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > It might be appropriate to set dirty_bytes to 500M across the board,
> > desktop and server. And dirty_background to 1/4 that. But all of these
> > are kinda rudimen
l the drives and
disable the write cache. It isn't worth the trouble.
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how this.
> However, I let a rebalance run overnight.
It shouldn't be necessary to run balance. If you've hit ENOSPC, it's a
bug and needs to be reported. And a separate thread can be started on
balance if folks want more info on balance, maintenance, ENOSPC
things. I don't ever worry about
or generally not useful (i.e. either bad or ambiguous) to change it.
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les to that bug, and everything else can just go in the description.
Also note any other customizations to /proc or /sys that differ from
Fedora defaults.
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The bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1941335
Fix is nearly ready:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/19075
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On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 4:37 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
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> On Mon, 2021-03-22 at 06:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 22/03/2021 02:27, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > Some folks are reporting a hang when booting Fedora 33 this morning
> > > (or also possibly wake fr
with
md raid setups might want to set a reminder to enable the timer again
once the issue is sorted out.
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intage Dell PowerEdge that does
> not support booting from thumb drives.
Hmm, I've got a vintage 2006 Dell laptop that boots from a USB stick.
There might have been a BIOS setting to enable it.
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reover, could you please direct me to some documentation on how to
> format the hard disk? Using GParted?
If you're already familiar with gparted, use that. Workstation edition
also comes with GNOME Disks, and KDE comes with Partition Manager,
which can also do t
idle-timeout="10m"
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.mount.html
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.automount.html#
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Upstream discussion.
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/b311ab52-86f7-1e7d-c0b6-15b2d050e...@suse.com/T/#mb16ec76e76ef6b7259c09c9221b1593ed097d617
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ing state but there's no single API that apps can use
to do that.
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/blob/master/f/hibernationstatus.md
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ways to screw it up that this... I've forgotten to set count=
before and end up writing megabytes of zeros before I CTRL-C. That was
pretty funny.
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rnald[555]: System Journal
(/var/log/journal/6a8c936a3d3048dfb12c1e99bd3a2ad5) is 48.0M, max
4.0G, 3.9G free.
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What kernel version? I suggest updating it. You can use a Fedora 32 kernel
on Fedora 31.
Even better, upgrade to 33. :D
There have been recent changes in the kernel related to random entropy
generation during boot. Touching the keyboard helps produce more entropy.
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wrote:
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> On Thu, 2021-01-14 at 19:56 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Clearly those lifetime numbers are bogus, as well as sometimes
> > reporting a lower lifetime value than the test before it. It's
> > getting younger!! M
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 6:58 PM Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
> On 1/13/21 11:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > 548 hours is not an old drive. It shouldn't have any write errors. But
> > as a drive ages there might be some and they should be handled
> > transparently and not af
Hmmm
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908005
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1911038
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Anything in dmesg or journalctl, at the time of this message?
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:09 PM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:04 AM Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > Because of the --init-csum-tree failure i'm a bit concerned that it's
> > possible the --repair step didn't completely repair things. So... just
&
D.
I missed that this is a 2.5 inch drive.
Probably time for it to have a dirt nap. Or use it for torture testing
file systems!
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 2:41 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:16 AM Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> >
> > -x has more information that might be relevant including firmware
> > revision and some additional logs for recent drive reported error
limitations that won't matter.
> 5) When you say "checksum errors in the month's old report" - which
> report are you referring to ? The thin-LVM crash or the smartctl crash
> ?
LVM thin.
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On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 6:21 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:49 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:57 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
>>
>> > I'm playing around with cryptocurrency and the current one downloads the
>&
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:24 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
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> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 3:10 AM Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Sreyan, is the drive that this file system is on the same drive as in
> > this reported thread?
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users
eally
obvious).
Ideally have the sysrq+t ready to just hit enter. When the
sluggishness happens, hit return.
If that's all normal we might have to get into bcc-tools or something.
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67301
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age
Always - 98785820672
But the value is well above threshold for both so I'm not worried about it.
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s for the
init-csum-tree. It really should not be a lot, it's less complicated
than the repair by a lot. Glad that worked though, phew!
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e. People have
better things to do than debug stuff. But it's sometimes a necessary
effort because we really are at significant confidence in Btrfs
stability equivalent to other file systems, even though we're aware of
its fragility in certain bad failure cases like this one. The only way
it gets better i
r this particular kind of damage.
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/4G52PRZ4ETFSXCSOJYFBGP6H64FRSRZT/
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<-->nodatacow, is a
conventional copy operation. It also means as long as you aren't
switching between them, you automatically get a reflink copy because
the default on Fedora 33 is cp --reflink=auto, i.e. it'll try to
reflink copy if it can, and if it can't it'll fall back to a
conventional
ctory has the attribute now, the duplicate will inherit the
> > attribute.
>
> That's somewhat painful as the file is over 900GB and will need to be
> copied to another drive and then back again, but thanks anyway.
As long as the cache mode is writeback or none, it'll be OK.
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> > > Does this mean that my VM image subvolume is being included in the
> > > compression? If that's the case I'll cease and desist.
> >
> > Did you
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:25 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
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> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:25 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:11 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:12 AM Qiyu Yan wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 4:15 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
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> On Fri, 2021-01-08 at 00:03 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:52 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I did the following:
> > >
> >
quota implementation and they're all
kinda confusing in different ways.
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 10:11 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 11:55 AM Chris Murphy
> wrote:
> >
> > 1. If you don't have a backup of important data, you should first use
> > 'btrfs restore' as I've described in previous emails. The fsck sh
the
original problem happened. That has a separate repair:
sudo btrfs check --init-csum-tree /dev/sdXY
That's it, everything should be OK. If something goes wrong, best to
not try again, just ask here or on IRC.
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there's no files, -m -x results in errors.
> If you want I am available on US time but only if you let me know in advance.
I saw your message today on IRC and replied about 15 seconds later but
didn't get a reply. An
d with
1 vs 9, and maybe not notice 15 unless they were paying attention or
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ession. So it reports correctly.
And the 'btrfs' command (btrfs-progs) doesn't yet have a compression
specific reporting option.
So yeah, compsize is what you're after.
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figure out an overlap time on IRC.
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Restore
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re are specific topics that need single source documentation,
including how to, with examples, possibly also with references - maybe
that'd be more useful and maintainable.
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 11:49 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 12:31 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 6:24 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
>> > Ok, so not so bad. The main reason I'm considering raid5 is that I have
>> > one
; SCT Error Recovery Control:
>Read:100 (10.0 seconds)
> Write:100 (10.0 seconds)
yeah if that's the default it's fine. The kernel's command timer is
30s, so the drive will give up on a read/write error before the kernel
will think it's MIA.
>
> The drive is a Sea
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 10:32 AM Chris Murphy wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 9:10 AM Jerome Lille wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I've just updated a desktop from Fedora 32 to 33 and after that the
> > logs are flooded with the following message
> >
> >
. Just the constant
> flooding of the logs.
>
> What can be done?
Maybe this bug:
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:09 PM Richard Shaw wrote:
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> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:34 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 6:26 AM Richard Shaw wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the detailed explanation. To
th systems:
/etc/default/grub
grub2-editenv list
2nd one is for grubenv file but this is the proper way to show it
My guess is the computer that does nothing is missing GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
in /etc/default/grub so you'll change that and then do the
grub2-mkconfig -o /path/to/grub
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:00 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> Ignore the above. New plan.
>
> Can you clone and build this? And then do 'btrfs-image -c9 -t4 -w
> /dev/sdXY /mnt/pathtoimagefile'
New new plan, ngompa built it for us in Fedora copr.
sudo dn
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:56 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:32 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > What do I do now ?
>
> Rats. Can you retry by adding -w option? In the meantime I'll report
> back to upstream and see what they recommend next.
Ignore the
I've filed a bug for tracking.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1912598
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>
> "BTRFS Error"
What kernel version was running when this happened? (I want to know
the kernel version running at the time of the first instance of a
problem.)
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> An alternative is matrix. We have a matrix-irc bridge in #fedora and
> pretty soon I think the plan is to switch mainly to matrix. So if you
> know about matrix then you can join #fedora - but I don't know how to
> explain it
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:32 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:14 PM Chris Murphy wrote:
> > transid errors like this indicate out of order writes due to drive
> > firmware not honoring file system write ordering and then getting a
> > bad
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:59 AM Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:16 AM Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > Try to mount normally, then:
>
> I am unable to mount normally :
>
> # mount -t btrfs /dev/mapper/dm_crypt /mnt/
> mount: /mnt: wrong fs
By the way, fpaste is installed by default in Fedora, and it has a new
feature: --btrfsinfo
fpaste --btrfsinfo
Then paste the URL here. It'll likely format way better than whatever
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ge or helper program, or other
> error.
>
Try to mount normally, then:
dmesg
btrfs check --readonly
Post the results.
You can then try:
mount -o ro,usebackuproot
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To uns
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space wherever it is.
https://github.com/kdave/btrfs-progs/issues/277
https://carfax.org.uk/btrfs-usage/
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o-holes' - both can be enabled after
mfks time though too.
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re it
will not automatically backup /home because it's considered a separate
"file system". Whew...
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[1] You can change the compression option while mounted by using the
remount option along with the new compression values you want. Mix and
match is valid. Whatever
ils:
https://github.com/AltraMayor/f3
https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
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add 5.9.16-200.fc33.x86_64
> /lib/modules/5.9.16-200.fc33.x86_64/vmlinuz || exit $?
>
>
> As you can see there is no dracut_install.
>
> Can anyone tell me where dracut_install is being called from ? What is
> going wrong here ?
>
ext4 is built-in so there is no kernel m
On Fri, Jan 1, 2021, 7:14 PM Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 19:06:44 -0700
> Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > You can remove the rng-tools package if you want. It's being removed
> > in Fedora 34.
>
> So where does random data come from in f34?
Kernel ha
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