Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-11 Thread Tim
Tim: Surely, one of these days, someone's going to create a KVM that clones the details of the monitor's EDID to all the computer monitor ports? Tom Horsley Well, mine as least does correct pass through of the EDID requests if the monitor happens to be connected when you boot. Does it

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:40:48 +1030 Tim wrote: Tim: Surely, one of these days, someone's going to create a KVM that clones the details of the monitor's EDID to all the computer monitor ports? Tom Horsley Well, mine as least does correct pass through of the EDID requests if the

F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Beartooth
By s-c-d I mean to abbreviate system-config-display. I've been running three, sometimes four PCs, behind a series of KVM switches, against an HP w2207h monitor, which is a flat panel 1680x1050, for some years and several Fedora releases. Fedora's releases have always

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Chris Tyler
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:57 +, Beartooth wrote: By s-c-d I mean to abbreviate system-config-display. I've been running three, sometimes four PCs, behind a series of KVM switches, against an HP w2207h monitor, which is a flat panel 1680x1050, for some years and several

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:09:33 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote: Not quite as gui-friendly, but you can get X itself to generate a xorg.conf configuration file: X -configure :1 # the :1 avoids conflicts with existing X server if any I did that. You can review /root/xorg.conf.new to see if

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Phil Meyer
On 11/10/2010 09:57 AM, Beartooth wrote: By s-c-d I mean to abbreviate system-config-display. ... What can I use? This constantly clicking on the wrong place is beginning to resemble the classic water torture The concept now days is to let X figure out most things, ie: driver

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/10/2010 10:32 AM, Phil Meyer wrote: On 11/10/2010 09:57 AM, Beartooth wrote: By s-c-d I mean to abbreviate system-config-display. ... What can I use? This constantly clicking on the wrong place is beginning to resemble the classic water torture The concept now days is to

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:32:17 -0700, Phil Meyer wrote: The concept now days is to let X figure out most things, ie: driver and display basic parameters, and then let the user tweak the settings. So the new way is: gnome-display-properties OK, that would make sense if it worked. it

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:49:21 +, Beartooth bearto...@comcast.net wrote: That thing?! Surely you jest. I can't get it to realize anything over 1024x768 exists. Even the oldest of my PCs used to do fine with 1280x1024 -- and this monitor can stretch that up to 1680x1050. In

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:49:21 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: The Germans have a word for this : Verschlimmbesserung. It means making things worse by trying or purporting to make them better. I nominate Verschlimmbesserung as the name for the next fedora release! :-). -- users mailing

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Phil Meyer
On 11/10/2010 12:53 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 19:49:21 +, Beartoothbearto...@comcast.net wrote: That thing?! Surely you jest. I can't get it to realize anything over 1024x768 exists. Even the oldest of my PCs used to do fine with 1280x1024 -- and this

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/11/10 14:23, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Is there any chance that this gnome-display-properties has the ability to do x / y origin shifts? I couldn't find anything that worked in xrandr, but I might be missing the insight for the correct option. With gnome-display-properties when I put

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 14:03:34 -0700, Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com wrote: No way am I ever going to help my 85 year old dad configure his old monitor (again). I bought him a new 27 model, and he loves it! And I like that solution! You can buy me two to replace the two old old

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/10/2010 1:15 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/11/10 14:23, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Is there any chance that this gnome-display-properties has the ability to do x / y origin shifts? I couldn't find anything that worked in xrandr, but I might be missing the insight for the correct option.

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/10/2010 1:24 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/10/2010 1:15 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/11/10 14:23, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Is there any chance that this gnome-display-properties has the ability to do x / y origin shifts? I couldn't find anything that worked in xrandr, but I might

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 18:29 +, Beartooth wrote: What it installed there doesn't even resemble the xorg.conf on my #1 PC (which is still running F12). In particular, under Section Monitor the new file has : Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName

Re: F14: what replaces s-c-d?

2010-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:25:23 +1030 Tim wrote: Surely, one of these days, someone's going to create a KVM that clones the details of the monitor's EDID to all the computer monitor ports? Well, mine as least does correct pass through of the EDID requests if the monitor happens to be connected