Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread fernando
Hi there, Resuming an old thread, just to clarify one point: Original Message From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 12:13 PM And what about certification? Is there a TCK for Java 7? Will OpenJDK 7 on Fedora be certified for Fedora 16 at release or at a later

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/29/2011 11:33 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Original Message From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 12:13 PM And what about certification? Is there a TCK for Java 7? Will OpenJDK 7 on Fedora be certified for Fedora 16 at release or at a later update?

Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread fernando
Hi, If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds? No. :-( Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-) And while we're talking about Java 7, I heard about serious problems preventing some open source packages like Lucene from running under Java 7 on production settings. That

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/29/2011 03:33 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi, If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds? No. :-( Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-) What has Red Hat's bucks got to do with this? And while we're talking about Java 7, I heard about serious problems

Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread fernando
Hi, If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds? No. :-( Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-) What has Red Hat's bucks got to do with this? Sorta kidding -- see the ;-) ? But isn't Red Hat kindgly giving time of some employees to work on IcedTea, and didn't they do

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/29/2011 06:42 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: If I am, is there a timeframe for certified builds? No. :-( Please, Red Hat, drop a few bucks for this! ;-) What has Red Hat's bucks got to do with this? Sorta kidding -- see the ;-) ? But isn't Red Hat kindgly giving time of

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/29/2011 10:42 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Very reassuring. So it's only the work involved in checking each one of thousands specs. That, at least, can be automated. The big problem is deciding which of the compiled classes that require version 7+ could run on earlier versions

JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread fernando
Hi there, I saw messages on the archives stating that OpenJDK 7 would be the default Java for Fedora, such as: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01586.html But the features page states that OpenJDK 6 will be the default, which OpenJDK 7 as an optional preview:

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Deepak Bhole
* ferna...@lozano.eti.br ferna...@lozano.eti.br [2011-11-04 10:05]: Hi there, I saw messages on the archives stating that OpenJDK 7 would be the default Java for Fedora, such as: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01586.html But the features page states that

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 02:05 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: I saw messages on the archives stating that OpenJDK 7 would be the default Java for Fedora, such as: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01586.html But the features page states that OpenJDK 6 will be the default, which

Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread fernando
linux distro has to make their own certification? []s, Fernando Lozano Original Message From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 12:13 PM Subject: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea On 11/04/2011 02:05 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: I

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 02:35 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: And about OpenJDK6 packates included on Fedora, I guess they are also built using IcedTea. But are they certified? Yes. And I guess correctly openjdk6/7 packages in Ubuntu and Debian are also built from IcedTea? Certification is the same

Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread fernando
Hi there, You simply run the TCK for each package update? Or is it a more involved process, with auditing and etc? []s Fernando Lozano Original Message From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 13:01 PM Subject: Re: JDK 7 status

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 04:43 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com And I guess correctly openjdk6/7 packages in Ubuntu and Debian are also built from IcedTea? Certification is the same for them or each linux distro has to make their own certification? The latter: only

Re: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread fernando
Hi there, Thanks a lot. But I don't understand, what is top-post ? []s, Fernando Lozano Original Message From: Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sex, Nov 4, 2011, 14:50 PM Subject: Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea On 11/04/2011 04:43 PM, ferna

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 04:52 PM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: But I don't understand, what is top-post ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/04/2011 09:52 AM, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi there, Thanks a lot. But I don't understand, what is top-post ? Top post is what you did when you put your reply at the top of the message instead of below the quoted text as is considered proper for this mailing list. Yes, I know

Re: JDK 7 status and IcedTea

2011-11-04 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/04/2011 05:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Top posting is considered bad manners in most technical fora because it reverses the normal order of conversations, putting the answer before the question. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such