Joe Zeff wrote:
that i should set my focus to a perfect english and political correctness
instead technical facts? sorry, my day has only 24 hours
No. Some of the people who didn't grow up speaking English are better
at it than you, but you're quite understandable. Not only that, there
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 16:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
and if you think here that i should be I, sorry it does
not bother me because there are *a lot* of words in the
german language beginning with uppercase letters while
at the same time in context of internet communication
it is often
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane
language in your condemnation of Harald.
No, it's called reverse do unto others. i.e. It's perfectly fine to
treat people in the same way that they treat you. And I
Tim:
I'll go even further. Since he's shown no evidence of stopping doing
it, unsubscribe him. We're all better off without it.
Timothy Murphy:
You are definitely wrong there.
I for one would not be better off.
since I have had several bits of helpful advice from Reindl,
Which, could
On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote:
Australian, actually.
Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-)
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I'm sick of his behaviour. If he modifies his own behaviour, and
continue to behave normally, he might get unmoderated. Let him stay
moderated until he can stop being an insulting, aggressive, egotistical
sod.
Robert Holtzman:
Pot, meet kettle.
Easy to be a smart arse. You don't
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:10 -0400
linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote:
Australian, actually.
Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-)
That's so Crocodile Dundee era :)
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On 07/11/2013 08:50 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:36:10 -0400
linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
On 07/11/2013 08:16 AM, Tim wrote:
Australian, actually.
Is Foster's really any good? ( Evil Grin ) :-)
That's so Crocodile Dundee era :)
Linda Kozlowski... YUM :-)
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Paul Fields.
After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away?
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Second the motion to unsubscribe him!
On 7/11/2013 5:16 AM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
I'll go even further. Since he's shown no evidence of stopping doing
it, unsubscribe him. We're all better off without it.
Timothy Murphy:
You are definitely wrong there.
I for one would not be better
On 07/11/2013 08:50 AM, Thomas Dineen wrote:
Second the motion to unsubscribe him!
Which one?
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On 10 Jul 2013 21:13, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 07/10/2013 01:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
And you're saying this is a *good* thing? You may not mind it
personally, but please don't try to argue that it's other than a mistake.
No, which is why I made the comment about Henry
On 07/11/2013 10:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
And BTW Dai is the Welsh diminutive for David, so I'm afraid you lost me
there.
If you listen to the song, you'll hear that that's the way she
pronounces it. It just seems so much more appropriate that way because
using the conventional
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Paul Fields.
After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away?
Yes. Let's please consider this thread closed. It's no longer serving
any useful purpose for offering assistance to Fedora users. The
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 04:42:02PM -0400, Paul Frields wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:02 AM, David dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
Paul Fields.
After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away?
Yes. Let's please consider this thread closed. It's no longer
Am 10.07.2013 15:39, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Vaclav Mocek next.little@gmail.com
mailto:next.little@gmail.com wrote:
Keep in mind that English is not native language of all of us and we may
sound rude even if we don't want to be.
I think
Am 11.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Tim:
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane
language in your condemnation of Harald.
No, it's called reverse do unto others. i.e. It's perfectly fine to
treat people in
thank you!
the really sad is that most of ym own replies are still
hanging in the moderation since nearly 24 hours and
this shows *clearly* that the moderation does *not* work
for two possible reasons:
* they say ah i do not like thos guy, delay it
* they are far away from computers - how can
Am 11.07.2013 15:02, schrieb David:
snip
Paul Fields.
After many, to many, days of this drivel would you please make this go away?
after 36 hours some posts of me should be released
to express my point of view and *that* is why i
often response with Reply All because the current
On 07/10/2013 07:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
and on the other side i make a better job as syadmin and developer like a
lot of people, native speakers or not, so what is your point here?
that i should set my focus to a perfect english and political correctness
instead technical facts? sorry, my
On 07/11/2013 05:47 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 11.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Tim:
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane
language in your condemnation of Harald.
No, it's called reverse do unto others.
selective posting again?
So you show by posting other peoples emails to this list? (no problem
include him in CC so he is aware) and why selective post, why not post all
the threads, that led to you being labelled troll, it is Riendl's way or no
way, that is your train of thought, and how dare
Allegedly, on or about 09 July 2013, inode0 sent:
The problem here from my perspective is that Harald was put into an
awkward position without any reason that I can see on the thread
cited.
I don't think it happened lightly. And he has shown a continual
predilection to behave the same way.
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would say.
-10
I'm sick of his
On 7/9/2013 11:18 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would
On 07/10/2013 04:18 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community. Live and let live for the common good, I would
On 07/10/2013 11:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community. Live and let live for the common good, I
On 7/9/2013 11:44 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
On 07/10/2013 11:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community.
Reindl,
Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as
violent and aggressive. Excessive accenting, excessive snipping, and
excessive profanity make up a majority of your postings to Fedora
mailing lists.
Very subjective impressionsà.
I have no problems with
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Vaclav Mocek next.little@gmail.comwrote:
Keep in mind that English is not native language of all of us and we may
sound rude even if we don't want to be.
I think we all make allowances for English not being the native language of
everyone here, but on the
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 11:46:38PM -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 7/9/2013 11:44 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
On 07/10/2013 11:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the
Am 10.07.2013 08:10, schrieb Tim:
Allegedly, on or about 09 July 2013, inode0 sent:
The problem here from my perspective is that Harald was put into an
awkward position without any reason that I can see on the thread
cited.
I don't think it happened lightly. And he has shown a continual
Tim wrote:
Let him stay moderated until he can stop being an insulting, aggressive,
egotistical sod.
...
Having sociopaths on the list drives people away.
...
They unsubscribe, they delete and ignore entire threads, because they're sick
of reading that crap.
...
And they do so without
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
[snip]
In this case, I hope the moderators are listening to the pros and cons as
expressed in this thread to determine what the list wants rather than looking
solely from the pov of what they think is best for the list.
Paul
I think the big
Tim wrote:
I'll go even further. Since he's shown no evidence of stopping doing
it, unsubscribe him. We're all better off without it.
You are definitely wrong there.
I for one would not be better off.
since I have had several bits of helpful advice from Reindl,
admittedly served up with a
On 07/10/2013 06:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
(e.g. he still behaves as if 'i' were an English word, despite being
told that it isn't)
I've seen all too many people who grew up speaking English who do the
exact same thing. Where's Henry Higgins when we need him?
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On 07/10/2013 07:34 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
It's ironic that you're using personal insults and borderline profane language
in your condemnation of Harald. Should you also be unsubscribed or do the rules
only apply to those you dislike?
Oh, good! I'm not the only one thinking this. It
On 07/10/2013 09:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've also received several bits of helpful advice from yourself,
served up as one would expect from an Englishman(?).
Overdone and served with mushy vegetables that have been cooked to
death? Well, at least it's not fried and served with a huge
On 7/10/2013 6:40 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 11:46:38PM -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
In this case, I hope the moderators are listening to the pros and
cons as expressed in this thread to determine what the list wants
rather than looking solely from the pov of what
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 12:40 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 07/10/2013 09:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've also received several bits of helpful advice from yourself,
served up as one would expect from an Englishman(?).
Overdone and served with mushy vegetables that have been cooked to
death?
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 07/10/2013 06:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
(e.g. he still behaves as if 'i' were an English word, despite being
told that it isn't)
I've seen all too many people who grew up speaking English who do the
exact same thing.
On 07/10/2013 12:40 PM, les wrote:
We can fry anything, ice cream, twinkies, bananas, snickers bars,
chicken, steak, and even turkey.
In Scotland, they batter and fry candy bars.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 07/10/2013 06:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
(e.g. he still behaves as if 'i' were an English word, despite being
told that it isn't)
I've
On 07/10/2013 01:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
And you're saying this is a *good* thing? You may not mind it
personally, but please don't try to argue that it's other than a mistake.
No, which is why I made the comment about Henry Higgins. I guess you
must be too young to know who he
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 03:48:35PM +0930, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 10 July 2013, Rejy M Cyriac sent:
+1
I have learnt to just gloss over the unimportant parts of his mail,
and focus on the vast amount of good information that he shares with
the community. Live and let live for
Am 08.07.2013 22:58, schrieb Michael Cronenworth:
On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
*large*
*but*
*serious*
*if*
*and* you have rate-controls *and then*
*pretty sure*
*really serious*
Reindl,
Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as
Am 08.07.2013 23:26, schrieb inode0:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
*large*
*but*
*serious*
*ifÜ
*and* you have rate-controls *and then*
*pretty sure*
*really serious*
Reindl,
Please understand
Am 08.07.2013 23:07, schrieb Joe Zeff:
On 07/08/2013 01:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Also, there is no need to send the same mail twice. I do not wish to
argue with you further as this is not the first time you have been
confronted about your behavior and I doubt it will be the last.
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:
it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated
and banned because off-list mails which are even not contain
any reference to a thread bounce dback by the receiver to the
list and additionally in CC to
Am 09.07.2013 14:15, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
it does not matter because on this list you are even moderated
and banned because off-list mails which are even not contain
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 09.07.2013 14:15, schrieb Jared K. Smith:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
it does not matter because on this list you are even
inode0 wrote:
As someone who reads most of discussions on this and many other lists
I largely share Harald's feeling that a relatively small number of
transgressions have clouded our perception of reality and we forget a
great many helpful posts.
I agree completely. Harald's posts are
On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list in terms of
their technical content. It's more disruptive that they're out of sequence due
to moderation than that his tone can sometimes come across as aggressive.
If people don't
On 07/09/2013 01:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list
in terms of
their technical content. It's more disruptive that they're out of
sequence due
to moderation than that his tone can
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
*large*
*but*
*serious*
*ifÜ
*and* you have rate-controls *and then*
*pretty sure*
*really serious*
Reindl,
Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as
violent and aggressive.
On 07/09/2013 02:19 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
In defence of Reindl, I don't see anything wrong with emphasizing words.
This particular posting did not strike me as violent and aggressive,
and I didn't see any profanity in it, let alone excessive profanity.
And, listing only the emphasized
On 07/09/2013 11:43 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 07/09/2013 01:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 7/9/2013 10:19 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
I agree completely. Harald's posts are among the best on this list
in terms of
their technical content. It's more disruptive that they're out
On 07/08/2013 01:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Also, there is no need to send the same mail twice. I do not wish to
argue with you further as this is not the first time you have been
confronted about your behavior and I doubt it will be the last. You also
like to get in the last word, which
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