Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/15/2011 02:48 PM, Dante Conti wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante One very messy way to do it is to build a reference system locally. Then manually

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dave Cross
On 15 April 2011 21:38, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. What kind of hosting company installs an

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
Thanks, Dave. I have initiated the cancellation process, and the vendor has informed me that I will receive the refund in 7-10 days. If that happens, I don't think that I should name the company, and I hate naming names, to begin with. Best. --Dante On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Dave Cross

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has been unsupported for three years? One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just been copying the original fedora 6 image they setup when they started using the

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an operating system that has been unsupported for three years? One that has been in business for about 3 years and has just been

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Dante Conti
It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Andy Blanchard zoc...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2011 13:48, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:33 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: What kind of hosting company installs an

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Andy Blanchard
On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core 6 was released at the tail end of 2006! That kind of OS age might be OK in Microsoft shops where you

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com mailto:dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and shamed. Fedora Core 6 was released at

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: On 04/18/2011 08:56 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: On 18 April 2011 16:42, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com mailto:dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: It was Fedora v6. RHEL was not offered as an OS option. In that case they *really* ought to be named and

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 04/15/2011 02:48 PM, Dante Conti wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante Jumping back in at the top... Since you're provisioning a server, you'd really be

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 06:18 AM, Andy Blanchard wrote: This may be a dumb question, but since it hasn't actually come up yet... Are we *certain* the hosting company in question installed Fedora v6 and not the current release (also v6) of Red Hat Enterprise Linux? The OP has since stated that the

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've already proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Moving to a new

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting company, and I think they've already proven themselves to

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 21:58, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO.  Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that would require him to trust the hosting

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 18 April 2011 21:58, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO. Not because it's not a good idea but because doing that

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 22:46, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:21 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 18 April 2011 21:58, JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote: On 04/18/2011 11:46 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 09:22 AM, JD wrote: But the OP seems not to have taken this road :) And wisely, IMO.  Not

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service means that you get little if any support included and (as we see here) you may get

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread JD
On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for. Going with the cheapest possible hosting service means that you get little if any support

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2011 03:07 PM, JD wrote: Guys, I do not mean to say that the hosting copanies that are good are NOT worth the cost. I only meant you have to shell out what they ask. I may be a tad less optimistic: expensive hosting companies may or may not be worth the cost, but cheap ones are

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-18 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 18 April 2011 23:07, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/18/2011 02:46 PM, JD wrote: good ones as in $$ per year? :) You may not always get what you pay for, but you almost never get what you don't pay for.  Going with the cheapest possible hosting

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-16 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:48:24 -0400 Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. Are you sure you need Fedora? I'd just plug in CentOS 5,

Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Dante Conti
Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/15/2011 12:48 PM, Dante Conti wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante No. FC 6 is now eight versions out of date and current versions of Fedora have

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante its a very hard task, you must go to fedora 7, 8, 9,

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Dante Conti
Hi Joe, Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. I don't have any data that I care about at this time, but I can only access the server remotely. If I download

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. I don't have any data that I care

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Dante Conti
Thanks, Itamar. BTW, the vendor pointed out that it is my responsibility to keep the server up-to-date, including applying the latest security patches. How can I do that, when the installed distribution is no longer supported? I know, it's not even funny. Yes, I should have checked before buying

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/15/2011 01:43 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: I recommend you to move to another hosting. That would probably be a good way out of this. And, make sure that your contract with the new service specifies not only Linux, or even Fedora, but which version; for Fedora, of course, require

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:38:43 -0400 Dante Conti wrote: I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. I know how you feel. I just upgraded my movie theatre to digital cinema from 35mm film and

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:38:43 -0400 Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, Thank you for the quick answer. I know that Fedora 6 is very old (and no longer supported), but -- amazingly -- this is what the hosting provider just installed on the server. I don't have any data that I

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread Bill Weinheimer
Dante, I know this is not the best time for a joke, but it appears the hosting vendor didn't even ask if you preferred Phillips or slotted. Just on a lark, is the server with the ancient Fedora in possession of hot swappable drives? If so there may be a path you can use by just getting someone

Re: Upgrade Fedora 6 to 14 (remotely)

2011-04-15 Thread JD
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Dante Conti dante.co...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to remotely upgrade a server running Fedora 6 to Fedora 14 (or 15)? If yes, should I use PreUpgrade? Thank you for any help you can provide. --Dante -- users mailing list