Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-20 Thread James Hogarth
On 20 April 2016 at 17:37, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 04/20/2016 09:03 AM, Tom H wrote: > >> > >> "apt-get update" is the same as "yum|dnf makecache" but with yum|dnf > >> you have to remember to use "yum|dnf -C

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/20/2016 09:03 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> "apt-get update" is the same as "yum|dnf makecache" but with yum|dnf >> you have to remember to use "yum|dnf -C update" (given dnf's new >> cache behavior, it seems to work from cache

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/20/2016 09:03 AM, Tom H wrote: "apt-get update" is the same as "yum|dnf makecache" but with yum|dnf you have to remember to use "yum|dnf -C update" (given dnf's new cache behavior, it seems to work from cache without "-C"). The -C option to both yum and dnf means to only use the cache.

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/19/2016 01:47 PM, James Hogarth wrote: >> On 19 Apr 2016 19:58, "Rick Stevens" > > wrote: >>> On 04/19/2016 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/19/2016 01:49

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread jd1008
On 04/19/2016 02:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: Now if only they'd simply remove the comment about deprecation and leave both commands in place, they won't cause untold confusion for people who have always used update :-). Technically that would be a regression :-) Because

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/19/2016 01:47 PM, James Hogarth wrote: On 19 Apr 2016 19:58, "Rick Stevens" > wrote: > > On 04/19/2016 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> On 04/19/2016 01:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> >>> What term will now be used for the passage

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread James Hogarth
On 19 Apr 2016 19:58, "Rick Stevens" wrote: > > On 04/19/2016 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> >> On 04/19/2016 01:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> >>> What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? >> >> >> Update. > > > Didn't the rest of this thread say "update" is

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/19/2016 11:56 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/19/2016 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/19/2016 01:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? Update. Didn't the rest of this thread say "update" is deprecated in favor of "upgrade"? I probably

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/19/2016 10:35 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 04/19/2016 01:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? Update. Didn't the rest of this thread say "update" is deprecated in favor of "upgrade"? Damn, I wish the developers would leave this alone!

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/19/2016 01:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? Update. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Timothy Murphy
Richard Hughes wrote: >> What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? > > At least in gnome-software, PackageKit and libhif we use "update" for > update-to-new-versions-same-release and "upgrade" for > update-to-new-versions-in-new-release. So presumably the fedora-updates repo

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Richard Hughes
On 19 April 2016 at 09:49, Timothy Murphy wrote: > What term will now be used for the passage to Fedora-24? At least in gnome-software, PackageKit and libhif we use "update" for update-to-new-versions-same-release and "upgrade" for update-to-new-versions-in-new-release.

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-19 Thread Timothy Murphy
Chris Murphy wrote: >> Now if only they'd simply remove the comment about deprecation >> and leave both commands in place, they won't cause untold >> confusion for people who have always used update :-). > > Technically that would be a regression :-) Because it's already > decided a long time

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:07:03 -0700 > Joe Zeff wrote: > >> It's always nice to see the devs doing things the easiest way instead of >> inventing and maintaining multiple versions of the wheel. > > Now if only they'd

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2016 01:08 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: Isn't that what this manpage item says? Update Command dnf [options] update Deprecated alias for the Upgrade Command. It's always nice to see the devs doing things the easiest way instead of inventing and maintaining multiple

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:07:03 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > It's always nice to see the devs doing things the easiest way instead of > inventing and maintaining multiple versions of the wheel. Now if only they'd simply remove the comment about deprecation and leave both commands in place, they won't

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:38:55PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/18/2016 09:29 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >Yes, dnf would have been a good time for this. I can only guess early > >on something important switching over to dnf blew up spectacularly > >without it, and it was easier to put in a

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/18/2016 09:29 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: Yes, dnf would have been a good time for this. I can only guess early on something important switching over to dnf blew up spectacularly without it, and it was easier to put in a backward compatible deprecated subcommand than fight reality. Actually,

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:57 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 18 April 2016 at 03:07, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: >> > On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-18 Thread James Hogarth
On 18 April 2016 at 03:07, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to > > commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. > > > > That being the

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to > commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. > > That being the case, shouldn't the update-info and > check-update commands also be deprecated and

dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. That being the case, shouldn't the update-info and check-update commands also be deprecated and have corresponding upgrade versions? jl -- Jon H. LaBadie