Re: f20 - gedit

2014-01-03 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 01/03/2014 06:17 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: ... As the App Menu works bad when using multiple windows and focus follow mouse, this should perhaps be a part of gnome-tweak-tool (a tick box there to chose App Menu or not), so one

Re: f20 - gedit

2014-01-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 26 December 2013 20:00, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE it's not used. FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-26 Thread Lars E. Pettersson
On 12/19/2013 09:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: AppMenu is only used when running under GNOME, when using any other DE it's not used. FWIW, you can get the old behaviour back under GNOME by editing the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides' key: gsettings set

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM,

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files :) This again? Please give a link to the giant list of exploits that have

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 06:20 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com mailto:horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:42:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I tend to forget about rpm itself. Actually, when I DID use it, yum would get upset, It doesn't. Yum warns that the RPM database has been modified by a tool other than Yum, but you're free to ignore that warning. Yum maintains a few

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 05:43 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 08:02 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:42:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I tend to forget about rpm itself. Actually, when I DID use it, yum would get upset, It doesn't. Yum warns that the RPM database has been modified by a tool other than Yum, but you're

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread David G . Miller
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1953 at gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 00:35:45 -0300 Germán A. Racca wrote: Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running startx so you can get the full root gui experience? No, I mean logging into the desktop as root rather than as a normal user. This is generally

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 05:43 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 20 December 2013 03:05, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running startx so you can get the full root gui experience?

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: You mean like lowering inittab to 3, logging in as root, then running startx so

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 10:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/20/2013 10:03 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:05:49 -0500 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-20 Thread Edward M
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:21:23 -0800 Edward M edwar...@live.com wrote: logged in as root using su -; CORRECTION: Sorry i typed it like this it my be confusing. I meant to say I logged in as root by typing su - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Edward M
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19,

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 03:07 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 09:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:07:01 +0200 Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 December 2013 20:42, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and did not recognize anything to change that would

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't think

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just went through all of dconf-editor listed items and

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries appear within gedit. What did you change? I just

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor instead to set the overrides and now those entries

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Confirm used dconf-editor

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 08:05:49AM -0500, Robert

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 08:35 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/19/2013 08:13 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/19/2013 05:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 09:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:16 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:22 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-19 Thread ergodic
Anyway, it is safer to use something like VIM to edit files as root, I only tested gedit because I saw your email, but as root I use only VIM to edit files :) Why? - Original Message - On 12/19/2013 10:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/19/2013 07:45 PM, Germán A. Racca

f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to vi. -- users mailing list

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Marvin Kosmal
​HI What version of gedit are you using? Marvin ​ On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 12:55 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: ​HI What version of gedit are you using? Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Evans
On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I think the dumbing down has gone a bit too

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread bitlord
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I can use it to edit various config files.

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 01:25 PM, Tim Evans wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 10:20 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running yum list installed gedit HTH HAND. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason to run as

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where

What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dennis Kaptain
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? I will most likely try again tomorrow... 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 06:16 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. Only a 16GB SSD on this ASUS ee900. Kind of

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! - Reply message - From: Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18