Re: Old release keys (was Re: tip: upgrade to 32)

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-21 21:38, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-22 11:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Would it hurt anything to remove the old ones? Hurt?  No.  Cause you an inconvenience at a later date?  Maybe. Example.  Let's say you want to install some SW from an earlier release of Fedora that was

Re: Old release keys (was Re: tip: upgrade to 32)

2020-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-22 11:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Would it hurt anything to remove the old ones? Hurt?  No.  Cause you an inconvenience at a later date?  Maybe. Example.  Let's say you want to install some SW from an earlier release of Fedora that was dropped.  So, you go back and find an

Re: Old release keys (was Re: tip: upgrade to 32)

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-21 20:19, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi Ed, Ooops.  Forgot to reinstall the key.   :'( And now everything works right. Thank you for sticking this through!  You are awesome! To answer your other questions: the GPG keys for older Fedora releases are

Old release keys (was Re: tip: upgrade to 32)

2020-04-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: Hi Ed, Ooops. Forgot to reinstall the key. :'( And now everything works right. Thank you for sticking this through! You are awesome! To answer your other questions: the GPG keys for older Fedora releases are harmless. But I have believed, for quite

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-21 02:34, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 17:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You still don't have c2d4e821-5e7252b8 Brave Software public key a.k.a. gpg-pubkey-c2d4e821-5e7252b8 installed. How did sudo rpm --import

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 19:55 -0400, Stephen Perkins wrote: > This horse is dead. Beating it will add nothing to Fedora users > lives. I buy on Swanson using FF and have NO problems. +1 Entertaining though it is, little if any of this thread has to do with Fedora. poc

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-21 17:25, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> You still don't have >> >> c2d4e821-5e7252b8 Brave Software public key >> a.k.a. gpg-pubkey-c2d4e821-5e7252b8 >> >> installed. >> >> How did >> >> sudo rpm --import >> https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc >> >>

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-21 02:15, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 16:55, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-21 01:33, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 16:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-20 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Still getting

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-21 16:55, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-21 01:33, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-04-21 16:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 2020-04-20 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Still getting > > warning: >

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-21 01:33, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 16:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-20 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Still getting warning:

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-21 16:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-20 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> Still getting >>> >>> warning: >>>

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 23:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Still getting warning: /var/cache/dnf/brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_-d55d330619c02b48/packages/brave-browser-1.7.92-1.x86_64.rpm: Header V4 RSA/SHA512 Signature, key ID 82d3dc6c: NOKEY

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-21 14:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Still getting > > warning: > /var/cache/dnf/brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_-d55d330619c02b48/packages/brave-browser-1.7.92-1.x86_64.rpm: > Header V4 RSA/SHA512 Signature, key ID 82d3dc6c: NOKEY > Public key for 

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 18:29, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-19 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add    --disablerepo=brave* to the following: #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 12:37 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I tell these customer they MUST have in place > the means to make manual sales. I know of one business who's computer system failed, and the only reason they didn't go under, too, was because they did manual invoicing (they took

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-19 03:30, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add >> >>    --disablerepo=brave* >> >> to the following: >> >> >> #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 12:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Chrome is not preinsalled, yet it get the gets over 70% of > market. It is on every Android phone I've seen. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 17 23:49:17 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Stephen Perkins
This horse is dead. Beating it will add nothing to Fedora users lives. I buy on Swanson using FF and have NO problems. On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 18:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 2020-04-20 12:50, stan via users wrote: > > It surprises me that your clients are concerned about google > >

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 12:50, stan via users wrote: It surprises me that your clients are concerned about google tracking them, with their attitude. Their attitude is based on meeting their customer's needs. If one web browser does not work with the their customer's requirements, my customer does not

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:08:29 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > If you are using Firefox Nightlies, you are in for a > wild ride. They are B-U-G-G-Y. I only test them when > I am forced to for by some issue and I get back off them > as soon as possible I've been running it for years, and

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 12:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Other customer of mine do point-of-sale on the cloud. I tell these customer they MUST have in place the means to make manual sales. Problem with that is that the employees hate doing that so much, that they just tell the customer to come back

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 04:29, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I use Firefox daily and it continues to improve. I don; t know why you say it's dying. I've also used Brave but it tends to have more issues than FF with some sites. poc I install Firefox on all my customers machine, then Brave when they

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 08:22, George N. White III wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 01:26, ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 2020-04-18 20:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Because Brave is not part of Fedora,

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-20 03:01, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 15:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: But here is the rub. Firefox has been dumped by so many people over this issue, that it is no longer a serious choice for anyone who wants a broadly compatible browser. Is it, though?

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-20 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-04-19 at 15:08 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > But here is the rub. Firefox has been dumped by so many > people over this issue, that it is no longer a serious choice > for anyone who wants a broadly compatible browser. Is it, though? So many people just use whatever came

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 08:33, stan via users wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:24:01 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I provide IT services to small businesses that can not afford their own staff. What I have noticed is that Firefox no longer works on business to business portals, especially

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:24:01 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I provide IT services to small businesses that can not > afford their own staff. What I have noticed is that > Firefox no longer works on business to business portals, > especially government ones. And online ordering has >

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 01:26, ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 2020-04-18 20:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should > >> be, especially with Firefox working on

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 19:18 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-18 15:05, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 13:56 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > On 2020-04-18 13:22, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 2020-04-19 02:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > > >

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-19 02:20, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The thing is that Firefox is not tolerant of mistakes on web sites. They are purest and think the web site should be fixed. All web browsers are tolerant of authoring faults, some

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-19 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 21:24 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The thing is that Firefox is not tolerant of mistakes > on web sites. They are purest and think the web site > should be fixed. All web browsers are tolerant of authoring faults, some browsers are way too tolerant (and in doing

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 20:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should be, especially with Firefox working on fewer and fewer websites.  Firefox is dying and that is really sad.  I have been I haven't noticed this,

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 20:58, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 19:18 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should be, especially with Firefox working on fewer and fewer websites. Firefox is dying and that is really sad. I cannot say that I've

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/18/20 7:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should be, especially with Firefox working on fewer and fewer websites.  Firefox is dying and that is really sad.  I have been I haven't noticed this, but if so, it's because Google nearly has a

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 19:18 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Because Brave is not part of Fedora, although it should > be, especially with Firefox working on fewer and fewer > websites. Firefox is dying and that is really sad. I cannot say that I've noticed that, at all. If anything, over

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 15:05, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 13:56 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-18 13:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-19 02:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-19 06:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 12:30 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add >>> >>>--disablerepo=brave* >>> >>> to the

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 13:56 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-18 13:22, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 2020-04-19 02:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add > > > > > >--disablerepo=brave* > > > > > >

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 12:30 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add > > > >--disablerepo=brave* > > > > to the following: > > > > > > #dnf --enablerepo=*

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 13:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-19 02:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add   --disablerepo=brave* to the following: #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh --disablerepo=brave* ... # dnf system-upgrade

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-19 02:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add > >   --disablerepo=brave* > > to the following: > > > #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh --disablerepo=brave* > ... > # dnf system-upgrade download --refresh

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 12:13, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I don't think that FC32 is released yet. Ranjan I am running it right now. It is the pre-release. # cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 32 (Thirty Two) I have no issue with running the pre because it is usually the actually release anyway

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-18 11:10, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add   --disablerepo=brave* to the following: #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh --disablerepo=brave* ... # dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=32

Re: tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I don't think that FC32 is released yet. Ranjan On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:10:27 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add > >--disablerepo=brave* > > to the following: > > > #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh

tip: upgrade to 32

2020-04-18 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, To get FC32 to upgrade on on eof my VM's, I have to add --disablerepo=brave* to the following: #dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh --disablerepo=brave* ... # dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=32 --allowerasing --best --disablerepo=brave* -T