Re: [389-users] How to change certificate options using 389-console ?

2012-05-08 Thread Arpit Tolani
Hie On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:20 AM, alaur...@cise.ufl.edu wrote: Hie On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Addison Laurent alaur...@cise.ufl.eduwrote: Generating one from the 389-console is only giving me a 1024-bit key, and 2048 is required. In order to generate a 2048-bit ASCII

Re: [389-users] How to change certificate options using 389-console ?

2012-05-08 Thread alaurent
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:20 AM, alaur...@cise.ufl.edu wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Addison Laurent alaur...@cise.ufl.eduwrote: Generating one from the 389-console is only giving me a 1024-bit key, and 2048 is required. In order to generate a 2048-bit ASCII certificate

Re: [389-users] No password change forced at first logon

2012-05-08 Thread Ali Jawad
Hi Mark With I do logon to the GUI and I logon as the directory manager, and I do set the password for an existing user, and I try to create a new user with a new password. But the user does not get prompted for a pwd on first logon after that. How do I reset the pwd ? Thanks On Tue, May 8, 2012

Re: (fedora) gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)

2012-05-08 Thread Jouk Jansen
Hi all, I was feeling the same about gnome3, until I found out that you still could run the gnome-panel: i.e. /usr/bin/gnome-panel --replace Or to make it start automatically : create the file ~/.config/autostart/panel.desktop with the following contents [Desktop Entry] Type=Application

Re: yum update fails - python 2.6 - 2.7

2012-05-08 Thread Frank Murphy
On 08/05/12 06:08, Gene Smith wrote: Running f16. Didn't notice these were marked as fc12. Obviously stuff hanging around from previous upgrade. Removing them fixes the problem. Thanks! Might be prudent to run: yum distro-sync It will ensure only those rpms available in F16 repos, will be

Re: problem with mounting iphone on F15

2012-05-08 Thread Adel ESSAFI
2012/5/7 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 20:17 +0100, Adel ESSAFI wrote: no idea?? [Please don't top-post] Did you search the list archives (or Google)? This has been discussed extensively before now. The basic reason is that an iPhone is not a memory

A confession

2012-05-08 Thread Neil Bird
My name is Neil, and I have found that I actually quite like GNOME Shell. I had to update my box from Fedora 14 a fortnight ago, and was dreading having to move from a GNOME (+ compiz) environment, including persuading the family. I'd updated my laptop a while ago, and was just about

Re: BeOS [WAS: Re: Cannot mount usb floppy]

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 May 2012 16:38, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a shame it went

Re: problem with mounting iphone on F15

2012-05-08 Thread Emilio Lopez
When I plug my iphone to the usb, I get this message and then the iphone is not mounted. dmes prints this messages. Could you help please. the iphone is under ios 5.x You can use ftp to transfer files, this will work forever independent of what apples changes in its phone. Emilio. -- users

kleopatra and ldap configuration

2012-05-08 Thread Maurizio Marini
I am trying to get my localhost ldap server configured into Kleopatra as x509 backend, but for some reason it does not work This is Fedora 16 with Kleopatra 2.1.1 I am using the same data that i use into claws to configure ldap address book backend, to be sure they are correct

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/07/2012 11:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/08/2012 08:39 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, For the past week or so, I have a machine running Fedora 16 and X worked fine till a week or so ago. I have started in level 3 and relabeled

Re: Weird mouse behaviour after update

2012-05-08 Thread Mark Haney
On 05/08/2012 01:49 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Have you looked in /var/log/messages? I was having mouse issues on Fedora 14 and when I looked in /var/log/messages I noticed a lot of messages where my USB mouse would disconnect and then reconnect. This occurred with at least 3 different mice. I

[SOLVED] Re: kleopatra and ldap configuration

2012-05-08 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Tue, 8 May 2012 12:21:26 +0200 Maurizio Marini mau...@datalogica.com wrote: nevermind :) dirmngr was not installed, grrr... sudo yum install dirmngr-1.1.0-6.fc16.x86_64 ~/.gnupg $ dirmngr --daemon m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 5:15 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Antonio Olivares
Could you attach a compressed ausearch -i -m avc Started machine in level 3 and can log in in Fallback Mode, here's compressed file. Regards, Antonio audit-20120508.txt.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: (fedora) gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)

2012-05-08 Thread JD
On 05/08/2012 12:39 AM, Jouk Jansen wrote: [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Exec=/usr/bin/gnome-panel --replace Hidden=false X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true Name[en_US]=gnome-panel Name=gnome-panel Comment[en_US]=gnome-panel Comment=gnome-panel Thanx for the tip. -- users mailing list

chkrootkit output

2012-05-08 Thread JD
Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init - ../bin/systemd rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd $ sha256sum /bin/systemd 73054e573603f8894c6df2078b7714f7533d5b95653b536e7f07d2c8f3f09bc1 /bin/systemd Is

QT4 apps slooooow in ssh

2012-05-08 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Hi, some exported (ssh -Y) applications are unbelievably slow, as they seem to upload bitmaps (display is progressively drawn from top to bottom and network traffic is 11.2MB/s, saturated 100Mbit/s). This happens only with qt4 apps (e.g. kate), no problem with qt3 apps or gtk apps. The qt4 apps

Re: chkrootkit output

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600 JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init - ../bin/systemd rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd $ sha256sum /bin/systemd

Re: chkrootkit output

2012-05-08 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600 JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init - ../bin/systemd rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd $ sha256sum /bin/systemd

Re: Fedora 18 release name

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:20:09 +0300 Mihamina Rakotomandimbymiham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 05/01/2012 09:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: Spherical Cow is really an idiom, and arguably not a normal adjective-noun pair. Justify it all you want, it still sounds like Copying Ubuntu to

Re: Fedora 18 release name

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/02/2012 12:24 PM, Michael Hannon wrote: I'm late to this (all-important) thread, but I haven't seen anybody mention the origin of the term spherical cow. It's a physics joke, or, maybe better, a joke about physicists. Yes. And many of us consider it to be trivializing

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/2012 10:00 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine To: Community support for Fedora users

Re: Fedora 18 release name

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Antonio Olivares wrote: I think Chris was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2% 80%93Tarski_paradox as applied to spherical cows. poc -- Dear sir, I did not know about this :( Thank you for explaining/referring me to this. I had heard about Banach spaces in college and

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Antonio Olivares
Could you attach a compressed ausearch -i -m avc I have updated another machine and run into the same problem :( Starting in enforcing=0 works :) Here is the output of above command [antonio@localhost ~]$ su - Password: [root@localhost ~]# ausearch -i -m avc

Re: Fedora 18 release name

2012-05-08 Thread Mike Wright
On 05/08/2012 09:31 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: snip/ Fedora is stuck on cows, clearly a Spherical Cow is a subset of Beefy Miracle, I suppose that given that it's Linux, it wouldn't be too much of a jump from cows to something GNU. LOL. Good catch ;) -- users mailing list

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012,

Re: chkrootkit output

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:13 -0600 JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 8 10:19 /sbin/init - ../bin/systemd rwxr-x-r-x1 root root 917320 Apr 17 01:50 /bin/systemd $ sha256sum /bin/systemd

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/2012 10:26 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Could you attach a compressed ausearch -i -m avc Started machine in level 3 and can log in in Fallback Mode, here's compressed file. Regards, Antonio The only AVC's that I see as not

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/08/2012 12:49 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: X Hang when starting machine To: Community support for Fedora

Re: is fvwm orphaned in F17?

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ranjan Maitra wrote: You should apply for co-maintainership of the package. :) Perhaps, but it is not clear if the original guy will be happy:-( Especially if he does not agree with the patching Can someone please tell me how to put in local rpms into a kickstart file (to make a

Re: Sata device in a USB docking station problems.

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
George R Goffe wrote: Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem with some SATA drives in docking stations connected to USB ports. The problem seems to be unrelated to heavy I/O and occurs randomly. Once, without the drive even being mounted. Here's a sample of output from /var/log/messages: [___

Re: F16 failure to completely boot - hangs at 'Started Display Manager'

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Davidsen
Gregory P. Ennis wrote: n 03/11/2012 11:19 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: Starting Display Manager. Started Display Manger I had that problem on this box after an upgrade to F16 went sour. Try booting into runlevel 3, or whatever it's called now, log into a CLI as root and try this: yum

Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into uninterrupted sleep !! It is unacceptable for a Linux system to have to be CRASH reboot as the mounted CIF mount can't be umounted as it

Re: Fedora 18 release name

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 09:31 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Fedora is stuck on cows, clearly a Spherical Cow is a subset of Beefy Miracle, I wonder how many of the voters GNU that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: F16 failure to completely boot - hangs at 'Started Display Manager'

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 10:25 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Did you by any chance have a 3rd party (aka working) video driver installed, such as from another repo like rpmfusion? If so, there may have been an updated kernel in your failed update and your kmod-whatever is unable to update. There's been about

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote: Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into uninterrupted sleep !! It is *not possible* to kill a process in D state. D

Re: QT4 apps slooooow in ssh

2012-05-08 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: Hi, some exported (ssh -Y) applications are unbelievably slow, as they seem to upload bitmaps (display is progressively drawn from top to bottom and network traffic is 11.2MB/s, saturated 100Mbit/s). This happens

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 08 May 2012 15:09:31 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think it was Lamport who said that you can't tell 'down' from 'disconnected' (did the remote server crash, or is there a network disconnection? maybe the network is just congested, there's no way to tell). I can tell: If I've

Re: QT4 apps slooooow in ssh

2012-05-08 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 05/08/2012 09:40 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: An additional test, on the F16 machine: - kate is normally fast - ssh -Y localhost kate is slooow What is happening here Is `ssh -Y localhost

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote: Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into uninterrupted sleep !!

Re: QT4 apps slooooow in ssh

2012-05-08 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: On 05/08/2012 09:40 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote: An additional test, on the F16 machine: - kate is normally fast - ssh -Y localhost kate is

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 13:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote: Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:42 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 15:09:31 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think it was Lamport who said that you can't tell 'down' from 'disconnected' (did the remote server crash, or is there a network disconnection? maybe the network is

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:42:46 +0100 Andrew Gray andr...@linnetsol.co.uk wrote: Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into uninterrupted sleep !! It is unacceptable for a

kernel 3.3.4-3.fc16.x86_64 lost wireless and gnome shell segfault?

2012-05-08 Thread Ian Malone
Anyone else seeing this? New kernel 3.3.4-3.fc16.x86_64 this morning, I now lose wireless after a short time. Interestingly my normal response (stop NetworkManager, modprobe -r rt2500pci, then bring them both back up again) causes a segfault in libgobject-2.0.so gnome shell (visible in dmesg, also

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack it. The apps don't*know* they're using a networked filesystem, they're just accessing files. I suppose there could be a command line switch to control this. Please

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:20 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack it. The apps don't*know* they're using a networked filesystem, they're just accessing files. I suppose there could

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would require for each program. Actually, I was thinking in terms of if this switch is set, don't use uninturrupted sleep. And, I'd be very astonished if any of the maintainers

Re: X Hang when starting machine

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/09/2012 12:59 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Yes 86 is the only one in testing right now. 88 will be next. One of you may want to invest in trimming posts. My scroll wheel is wearing out. :-) :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08May2012 16:02, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: | On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 13:16 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: | On 05/08/2012 12:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 +0100, Andrew Gray wrote: | Hi | | Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or

Fwd: Upgrade to F16 from F15 and grub doesn't have menu

2012-05-08 Thread Martín Marqués
Today I performed a yum upgrade from F15 to F16 (as I did some time ago with my main computer). The thing is that I did something differently (maybe not installing grub2 on F15 before the upgrade) and after yum finished upgrading, I did a grub2-install. Bad for me, now grub doesn't show a menu ,

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Andrew Gray
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 21:41 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:42:46 +0100 Andrew Gray andr...@linnetsol.co.uk wrote: Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go

Re: QT4 apps slooooow in ssh

2012-05-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08May2012 13:18, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: | Is `ssh -Y localhost kate -graphicssystem native` faster? | | Absolutely yes! The speed is normal again. | I also tried -graphicssystem raster which is slw, | and -graphicssystem opengl which is bugged (pieces of

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Andrew Gray writes: « HTML content follows » Hi Either give use a way to kill a hung cp or rsync  when the VPN goes down and they end up is state D uninterrupted sleep or stop apps being able to go into uninterrupted sleep !! It is unacceptable for a Linux system to have to be

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: completing when the remote server's known to have crashed. At this point, probably the best way to proceed is to request that whoever maintains the programs in question modify them so that they don't enter this state when It's not up to the app to decide that. If you

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would require for each program. Actually, I was thinking in terms of if this switch is set, don't use uninturrupted sleep. It's not up to the app. This is

Size of all repository

2012-05-08 Thread Osmanys Fuentes Lomba
Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of applications and later get into my computer. Some body have any idea?? -- Universidad de

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it will do. End of story. So let me get this straight: even if you know that this kind of thing can happen

Re: Upgrade to F16 from F15 and grub doesn't have menu

2012-05-08 Thread Martín Marqués
OK, got it to boot with sone instructions I found on the web: http://techgage.com/news/repairing_a_broken_grub_2_boot-loader_on_ubuntu/ Just had to change somethings so that they looked like in my system (devices, path to vmlinuz, etc.) Now, how do I verify that my grub.cfg is good, and it's

Re: Size of all repository

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 18:23 -0400, Osmanys Fuentes Lomba wrote: Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of applications and later get into

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:41 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 02:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I think you're underestimating the amount of extra effort this would require for each program. Actually, I was thinking in terms of if this switch is set, don't use uninturrupted sleep.

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it will do. End of story. So let me get this

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Depending on requirements, the programmer might be able to use aio(7) calls, but it complicates things greatly and AFAIK doesn't guarantee that the program will never wait. If I read the man page correctly, a program can check the status of a

Re: Size of all repository

2012-05-08 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Osmanys Fuentes Lomba osmanys.fuen...@cnt.uo.edu.cu wrote: Hi people, I want to now what is the size of the whole repository of Fedora (16 or 17). I'm from Cuba and my connection to the internet is very slow, I want to download or copy the whole set of

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the kernel wants to put the task into uninterruptible sleep, that's what it will do. End of

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:58:18 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This is not to say that it couldn't be any other way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign. I don't know. The suggestion earlier in this thread to allow kill -9 to make the process go away while leaving some

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 05/08/2012 04:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Depending on requirements, the programmer might be able to use aio(7) calls, but it complicates things greatly and AFAIK doesn't guarantee that the program will never wait. If I read the man page correctly, a program can

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 04:28 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This is not to say that it couldn't be any other way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign. Nothing is impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Not a problem, I was just making sure I understood you.

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 08:03 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: It's not that hard to save userspace in the kernel. Make SIGKILL abort the OS call and terminate the process. Have the kernel mark the I/O as cancelled in whatever form is necessary for the subsystem in use. Something like

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/08/2012 04:45 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2012 18:58:18 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This is not to say that it couldn't be any other way, but actually changing it would mean quite a radical redesign. I don't know. The suggestion earlier in this thread to allow kill -9 to

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 15:35 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/08/2012 03:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: It's not up to the app. This is not an optional system call. If the kernel wants to put the

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/08/2012 04:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Did you also happen to read the nfs and the mount.cifs man pages, that give the mount options for remote shares so that processes won't go into uninterruptible sleep when the share goes down, with no changes required to the application? No,

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:33:17 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Other things can also cause D state waits On some linux kernels I've found that sufficiently tricky manipulation with a debugger can get an app in an uninterruptible state, in fact I had to add code to my debugger to notice it and

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 19:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Use soft mounts. Problem solved. *For NFS*, And CIFS. but there's no indication that the OP's problem is being caused by NFS. Actually, I must've been one of the few around here who paid

I need help stting up a smart card login

2012-05-08 Thread John Wendel
F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard Problem: I can't get smart card login working I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by several command line utilities (can't rember their names at the moment). [1] escd, pcscd running [2] Smart card

Firefox problems

2012-05-08 Thread JD
Have firefox-12.0-1.fc16.i686 Problem1: Youtube videos auto-repeat. Have no idea where the setting for that is. Problem2: Most youtube videos stop at 0:42 seconds position and after a while (about a couple of minutes), I get an error message in the video display area, telling me to

Re: I need help stting up a smart card login

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/09/2012 11:42 AM, John Wendel wrote: F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard Problem: I can't get smart card login working I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by several command line utilities (can't rember their names at the

Re: Please stop apps going into state D uninterrupted sleep !!

2012-05-08 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 16:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I tried to explain, rewriting a couple of apps is not going to hack it. The apps don't *know* they're using a networked filesystem, they're just accessing files. They could find out and try to take measures, but then what about

Re: I need help stting up a smart card login

2012-05-08 Thread John Wendel
On 05/08/2012 08:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/09/2012 11:42 AM, John Wendel wrote: F16 with latest updates - Dell smart card reader keyboard Problem: I can't get smart card login working I'm pretty sure I have all the pieces installed. The card can be read by several command line utilities

No Audio from media players

2012-05-08 Thread JD
I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc). But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Running DIL (3.6.0) Version DtsDeviceOpen: Opening HW in

Re: No Audio from media players

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/09/2012 01:11 PM, JD wrote: I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc). But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Running DIL (3.6.0)

Re: No Audio from media players

2012-05-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/09/2012 01:27 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/09/2012 01:11 PM, JD wrote: I can get audio when I play videos on firefox (youtube, ...etc). But vlc and mplayer issue this message into ~/.xsession-error Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object file: No