Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers
On 27 Jan 2013, at 23:55, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote: People, Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:18:40 -0500 From: Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. eoconno...@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers Message-ID: 51058ba0.8020...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 01/23/2013 02:59 PM, James Freer wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 01/23/2013 06:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: because first new anaconda was approved and integration all over the distribution started and after that damage was done people realized hm new anaconda is not ready So what you're saying is, it was approved before it was ready. Judging from what else you wrote, the devs didn't realize it when they approved it. This suggests to me that approval came too early in the process, before proper testing was done and that important parts of the program hadn't been completed. If so, is there anything that can be done to prevent this from happening yet again? I have the greatest respect for the developer's that put in considerable effort for each release. The problem with 6 month release cycle is too little time. I've used linux now for almost 6 years with Ubuntu and Fedora. Some distros use a two year release which is too long. One or two use an annual release which i think is about right... development and testing can fully take place. Why not consider an annual release which would give appropriate time for all to take place? james I would have to agree with you James, it might not be a bad idea for them to stretch their release time out a bit? I would have positives from all sides. First,the developers would be able to REALLY put their apps and what-not through a GRUELING testing session, this way...when they say it works.IT WORKS! Second,.the public wouldn't find themselves scurrying to acquire the latest version, and slamming it onto their machines without knowing that things won't crash burn un-necessarily..also it would give the public time to adapt and become comfortable with the latest release, instead of going into shock at the arrival of a new desktop environment...or new feature-sets that were not there before. I guess it's just a matter of someone (or a LOT of someone's) voicing their opinion loud enough to be heard by the higher-ups? I don't know that they would actually change things around like that(it would be NICE!) but eventually they might get restless enough to completely flip thing around and have longer time frames between releases. Maybe we should try out, say, a nine month cycle and if it doesn't suit - go back to six months? I am conscious though of the human tendency to put off things when there is more time to get them done . . Regards, Phil. -- I think if nine months was tried then the interim period should be renamed a gestation. I'd also like to add to the pile of anecdotal evidence that my systems been stable since upgrading to F18. There were some hiccups with evolution but that was more to do with my self-signed server certs than anything. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display rates -
On 01/28/2013 05:44 AM, David wrote: On 1/27/2013 11:21 PM, poma wrote: On 01/28/2013 03:02 AM, David wrote: On 1/27/2013 7:31 PM, poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 09:54 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:57 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: xrandr -q No that just shows the same thing, the equipment is rated much higher. [root@Box9 xorg.conf.d]# xrandr -q Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA-0 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 And I have had no success with the commands to change it like: $xrandr --output LVGA --mode 1680x1050 --rate 60 Which just gets a help screen, obviously I'm doing something wrong out of ignorance. Heya, $ man cvt $ man xrandr $ xrandr --newmode 640x480R 23.50 640 688 720 800 480 483 487 494 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 800x600R 35.50 800 848 880 960 600 603 607 618 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1024x768R 56.00 1024 1072 1104 1184 768 771 775 790 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1280x960R 85.25 1280 1328 1360 1440 960 963 967 988 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1280x1024R 90.75 1280 1328 1360 1440 1024 1027 1034 1054 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1440x900R 88.75 1440 1488 1520 1600 900 903 909 926 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1680x1050R 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync $ xrandr --newmode 1920x1080R 138.50 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 +hsync -vsync CVT(Coordinated Video Timings) with R(reduced blanking intervals) modes ONLY for LCDs at 'VertRefresh' 60 Hz. Automation in da display manager style: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: display-setup-script=/usr/bin/RandR … /usr/bin/RandR: #!/bin/sh # ViewSonic VX2035wm xrandr --newmode 1680x1050R 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync /dev/null 21 xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1680x1050R /dev/null 21 xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1680x1050R /dev/null 21 exit 0 Cheers, poma Or? Well you could use a distro that actually works without searching Google and volumes of text files. Seems like if 'Linux is now supposed to appeal to the 'great unwashed masses' that it should make it easy for them to use Linux. Ya think? Feber est suae quisque fortunae. Cheers, poma F/a/ber est suae quisque fortunae Your 'e' should be an 'a' Prissy :) But a good point. However. But my point was that if Linux ever expects to become useful and commonly accepted it needs to work for 'the common user' in 'the common environment'. Workable without the need of incantations, magic scripts, candles burning on stone alters where chickens are killed and their blood captured in special stone bowls to just 'make it work'. Means? Install it and the devices are found and configured. The monitor works as it should. xrandr is just simple tool :) The magic is in the efforts of developers to make something like that. Please, do not take things for granted. No retreat, no surrender. poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
In F18 the rsync command fails to connect: dbus-daemon[938]: Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'. dbus-daemon[938]: Host key verification failed. Check /var/log/audit/audit.log. SELinux is probably denying access to the script in networkmanager's context. Dear Gordon, Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this: grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol semodule -i mypol.pp setsebool -P rsync_export_all_ro 1 I'm switiching on selinux and rebooting... Thanks! Bill -- Bill Murray ATLAS STFC RAL at: Bat 40 4-C28, CERN,1211 Meyrin, Geneve 23, Switzerland Tel:- CERN +41 22 7678432or RAL +44 (0)1235 446256 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
On 28/01/13 09:54, William Murray wrote: In F18 the rsync command fails to connect: dbus-daemon[938]: Could not create directory '/root/.ssh'. dbus-daemon[938]: Host key verification failed. Check /var/log/audit/audit.log. SELinux is probably denying access to the script in networkmanager's context. Dear Gordon, Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this: grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol semodule -i mypol.pp setsebool -P rsync_export_all_ro 1 I'm switiching on selinux and rebooting... Thanks! Bill Alas, running with selinux on just causes NetworkManager to time out - and no feedback is SELinux alert browser. -- Bill Murray ATLAS STFC RAL at: Bat 40 4-C28, CERN,1211 Meyrin, Geneve 23, Switzerland Tel:- CERN +41 22 7678432or RAL +44 (0)1235 446256 -- Scanned by iCritical. -- Bill Murray ATLAS STFC RAL at: Bat 40 4-C28, CERN,1211 Meyrin, Geneve 23, Switzerland Tel:- CERN +41 22 7678432or RAL +44 (0)1235 446256 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Display rates -
On 01/27/2013 08:54 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:57 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: xrandr -q No that just shows the same thing, the equipment is rated much higher. [root@Box9 xorg.conf.d]# xrandr -q Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA-0 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48059.9 And I have had no success with the commands to change it like: $xrandr --output LVGA --mode 1680x1050 --rate 60 Which just gets a help screen, obviously I'm doing something wrong out of ignorance. your 'equipment' maybe rated higher, but the 'xrandr -q' is actually showing how it is being seen. note that it is showing 'VGA-0' as your connection and it may not give you higher resolutions. because it is showing '1024x768x60' as maximum, that may well be best that you will get in 'VGA' mode. which is caused by video chip and it's outputs. also, try '--screen 1680x1050' instead of '--mode 1680x1050'. something else to consider, try 'man xrandr' to see where you should be using '--' or '-'. try 'locate xrandr' to see if you have a 'Documents' file and read it. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
On 01/28/2013 12:54 AM, William Murray wrote: Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this: grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being denied (or something else in an rsync context). From your original email, you're probably seeing at least one denial to ssh in NetworkManager's context. Instead, put selinux into permissive mode. Rotate the audit log, or just use 'tail -f audit.log mypol.avcs'. Run through all of the things that need to happen during normal operation. When that's done, you can use mypol.avcs or the rotated audit.log to generate the new policy. setsebool -P rsync_export_all_ro 1 That's only necessary if you're running rsyncd, which I think you're not. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora
Hi! 2013/1/27 carachi diego carach...@gmail.com But if I compile the kernel without all unnecessary drivers and packet, Can I obtain more performance than only disable some service? The Fedora kernel (and actually any other distribution) has most of its kernel options compiled as modules (not drivers). Why? Because it is impossible for Fedora devs to know beforehand the hardware the computer will run and people like to get their hardware up and running as soon as they plug it in. In any case, the kernel does not load modules on memory until they are needed. So the only thing you are wasting is hard disk space (and not really much). So you could save a few MB of hard drive by compiling your own kernel and removing modules you are not going to use (floppy disks?) but 1) you will spend a lot of time and 2) you may break something. So my advice is: leave the kernel as is and take a look at unnecessary services at boot. Greetings, -- Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: firewalld v. libvirtd
Hi Rob: 2013/1/28 Robert Locke li...@ralii.com I would like to associate the virbr0 interface, created by libvirtd, to be considered part of the internal zone, since I trust my own VMs talking to the host. But, what is the supportable method for accomplishing this? There is no ifcfg- where I could put the firewall zone firewall-cmd [--zone=zone] --add-interface=interface from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD#Generic_use Greetings, -- Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora hangs driving me nuts, in Windows it works without problems!
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:02 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Found these instructions: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_kdump_to_debug_kernel_crashes And updated to kernel 3.8 rc2 from rawhide and enabled kdump on that kernel... trap is set, now I wait eagerly ;) Is it solved for you when using 3.8 rc2? -- Arun S A G http://zer0c00l.in/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Advice needed on setting up a second DHCP network on separate Ethernet controller with access to internet
Hi, with the new firewalld and possible changes to Fedora. I need advice on setting up a second DHCP network on 192.168.01.x on a separate Ethernet controller with access to internet for http and https and DNS for the second network from the existing 192.168.0.1 DHCP network and controller. This is for PXEBOOT'ing new servers. I managed to do this before once on F14 with the old Fedoras configuration and Shorewall, but could not get it to work on F16 when I tried again. I am now wanting to do this again on F18. And would like to ideally do it without Shorewall. And would like to do a HOWTO to accompany the PXEBOOT HOWTO. Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to do backups to an external disk inside emergency mode
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I am not so sure that my hard disk is corrupted. I have just filed the following bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=904853 Then you should examine /var/log/audit/audit.log when you boot from the CD and include any relevant AVC messages in the bug report. Thanks to all who answred my questions. Meanwhile, I reinstalled Fedora 18 on my computer, and it seems to be working with no problem, even after the updates. My computer is a branded one and only 2 years old -- so, it was hard to believe that its hard disk was dying or being corrupted. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F18 Xorg/drm/kernel - Failed to find memory space for buffer 0xXXX eviction
On most of my systems the F17 to F18 upgrade went well. On the main one, my desktop, I'm seeing a string of failures that leaves the display in various states of unusable depending on the positions of the stars and planets. The file /var/log/messages contains the following and the displays have messed up icons and background images. It looks like the frame buffer is just displaying random snippets of past items in some mosaic-ed pattern. 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077567-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832592] [TTM] Failed to find memory space for buffer 0x88021ceda848 eviction 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077590-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832604] [TTM] No space for 88021ceda848 (9660 pages, 38640K, 37M) 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077592-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832609] [TTM] placement[0]=0x00070002 (1) 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077593-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832613] [TTM] has_type: 1 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077595-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832616] [TTM] use_type: 1 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077596-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832619] [TTM] flags: 0x000A 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077597-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832621] [TTM] gpu_offset: 0x2000 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077599-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832624] [TTM] size: 131072 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077600-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832627] [TTM] available_caching: 0x0007 2013-01-27T20:06:10.077601-08:00 arbol kernel: [ 28.832629] [TTM] default_caching: 0x0001 Does this ring a bell with anyone? Is there something I can turn off (perhaps in Xorg.conf) to stop this lossage perhaps at some cost in CPU time or speed? It feels like it must be some video acceleration hack gone awry. Why else would the kernel get involved in this level of xorg userland drawing to the framebuffer? I put in a bugzilla for this a dozen days ago, but so far, not even a peep from anyone. I figured I'd try for a larger audience. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896170 -wolfgang -- g+: https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? You can use diff -r to recursively compare directories. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
On 28.01.2013 13:49, Paul Smith wrote: Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? fdupes is also worth to look at... -Jens -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18
On 01/25/2013 06:21 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: smbd[20596]: WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'SHARE' for parameter 'security' This is unacceptably stupid. The guys with the tinfoil hats who think that connecting a computer to AC power is insecure have obviously taken over. It is now utterly impossible to provide a windows share from a linux box that can be connected without the windows side asking for credentials. Nevermind that the entire LAN is isolated behind a firewall. Nevermind that all users inside that firewall are trusted and will be pissed off that they constantly have to provide credentials for no reason. Nevermind that there is nothing in the shared directory but things like copies of holiday snapshots. Oh no! The security geeks need to make sure I'm protected from myself. Just because it is my computer, my LAN, and my data is no reason I get to decide how I want to use it. I'm too ignorant for that. Now, please use this rant as motivation to prove I'm wrong by posting a tested, working, smb.conf file that provides a read/write windows file share which requires no credentials prompt on the windows box. (Merely mentioning things you've heard ought to work isn't useful - I've tried them all - I need a working tested example). Sheesh! This works for XP: $ more smb.conf [global] workgroup = LITTERBOX server string = samba security = share passdb backend = tdbsam load printers = no guest account = fshare os level = 99 wins support = yes name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts bcast domain master = yes preferred master = yes [pub] comment = data directory path = /var/pub writeable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes create mode = 0664 directory mask = 0775 -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora
carachi diego carach...@gmail.com writes: I would like to know if someone knows where I can find some guide, tutorial that can help me to improve the performance of Fedora on my laptop in start up. The biggest change you can make to your laptop to get it to boot faster is throw out the rotating disk and buy an SSD (Solid State Disk). A 120GB disk can be had for under $120. You can cut your boot time from 1+ minute to 15 sec (from the time grub loads to the time the login screen appears). No other change you can make will be anywhere close to that dramatic. The one fly in the ointment is that you need to have a modern enough laptop for the disk to be a SATA disk. Anything newer than ~2007 should be ok (but check your disk first before ordering an SSD). -wolfgang -- g+: https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18
Am 28.01.2013 14:01, schrieb Steven Stern: This works for XP: public below may work $ more smb.conf [global] workgroup = LITTERBOX server string = samba security = share this works surely not with samba 4.0.x or better said has no effect if you re-read the OP passdb backend = tdbsam load printers = no guest account = fshare os level = 99 wins support = yes name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts bcast domain master = yes preferred master = yes [pub] comment = data directory path = /var/pub writeable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes create mode = 0664 directory mask = 0775 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: network-scripts documentation
Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com writes: My old router, that was running DD-WRT firmware, bit the dust. The stock brand router that replaced it doesn't have the ability to send NTP for clients via DHCP. I'm trying to figure out if I had drop something into /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*, that'll have the effect of doing that. Seems like overkill. Why not just add it to /etc/ntp.conf and/or /etc/chrony.conf ? If you are off-net and if the server has a non-routable address that ntp host simply won't be used. -wolfgang -- g+: https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora
On 28 January 2013 13:11, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: carachi diego carach...@gmail.com writes: I would like to know if someone knows where I can find some guide, tutorial that can help me to improve the performance of Fedora on my laptop in start up. The biggest change you can make to your laptop to get it to boot faster is throw out the rotating disk and buy an SSD (Solid State Disk). A 120GB disk can be had for under $120. You can cut your boot time from 1+ minute to 15 sec (from the time grub loads to the time the login screen appears). No other change you can make will be anywhere close to that dramatic. The one fly in the ointment is that you need to have a modern enough laptop for the disk to be a SATA disk. Anything newer than ~2007 should be ok (but check your disk first before ordering an SSD). This is a pretty big change, but actually my F17 laptop boots fairly quick even with a platter disc. If you look at Lennart's blame game page (already linked) you can save a lot of time by not waiting on services you don't need (not necessarily even disabling them, just not waiting for things that aren't needed during boot). -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rant: cifs utterly screwed in fedora 18
On 01/28/2013 07:15 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 28.01.2013 14:01, schrieb Steven Stern: This works for XP: public below may work $ more smb.conf [global] workgroup = LITTERBOX server string = samba security = share this works surely not with samba 4.0.x or better said has no effect if you re-read the OP passdb backend = tdbsam load printers = no guest account = fshare os level = 99 wins support = yes name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts bcast domain master = yes preferred master = yes [pub] comment = data directory path = /var/pub writeable = yes public = yes guest ok = yes create mode = 0664 directory mask = 0775 Sorry... misposted. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? You can use diff -r to recursively compare directories. I use this instead: $ rsync -rvnc --delete olddir newdir Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/2013 07:44 AM, Paul Smith wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24 kernel: ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT ata1.00 is your first hard disk Thanks, Reindl. I only have one hard disk in my computer, which runs only Fedora 18. As a consequence of this problem, I cannot boot my computer. This problem occurred after the last updates, which included selinux-policy. i doubt that HARDWARE errors have anything to do with selinux-policy Thanks again, Reindl. By using smartctl, I get a message similar to the one below: Error 18 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 12126 hours (505 days + 6 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. Paul Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEGkyAACgkQrlYvE4MpobM1TgCeIzLEEhfE3zMa7EEURiQLLyZf QwcAnA3d0maQLHmbXjMNfP9bVHlY9XYf =XMkS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 04:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 01/28/2013 12:54 AM, William Murray wrote: Thanks, thats it. I put selinux on permissive in the client, and got 258 selinux warnings, but my files are backed up again. I tidied a lot like this: grep rsync /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being denied (or something else in an rsync context). From your original email, you're probably seeing at least one denial to ssh in NetworkManager's context. Instead, put selinux into permissive mode. Rotate the audit log, or just use 'tail -f audit.log mypol.avcs'. Run through all of the things that need to happen during normal operation. When that's done, you can use mypol.avcs or the rotated audit.log to generate the new policy. setsebool -P rsync_export_all_ro 1 That's only necessary if you're running rsyncd, which I think you're not. Rsync fighting SELinux seems to be a common problem lately. I blogged on this a week or so ago. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/61646.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEGlGkACgkQrlYvE4MpobMoWwCgiGg0G/0BZ+I+MIFpvMRucUKH 0jAAnRRgX+XpwIUNwiIab87yDKzAqhdD =DTU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
i use the attached.. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? Thanks in advance, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org dircmp Description: Binary data -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? You can use diff -r to recursively compare directories. I use this instead: $ rsync -rvnc --delete olddir newdir AFAIK --delete flags files from the target which are not present in the source, which is the reverse of what the OP is asking for, so maybe the two directories should be inverted. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
f18: compiz, initial package for f18, and Gnome3
Is possible use the initial package for f18 compiz with Gnome 3? Or it is only for other D.E.? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Anything Like Solaris' Live Ugrade?
Does anyone know of any sort of Linux utility that does something like what Solaris' Live Upgrade (http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01/806-7933/index.html) does? In my past life as a Solaris sys-admin, I found this an extremely useful tool for upgrading and patching running systems, as well as for maintaining redundant boot environments on separate system disks for disaster situations. -- Tim Evans | 5 Chestnut Court Linux/UNIX Consulting | Owings Mills, MD 21117 http://www.tkevans.com/ | 443-394-3864 http://www.come-here.com/News/ | tkev...@tkevans.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers
On 01/27/2013 11:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/27/2013 01:44 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I like your ideas J.Z(LoL!) like I know of a few distros that have their long term support versions that are stable, and the packages and apps have all been tested and have been proven to work. Then they also have their ex[experimental / developing distros which include a lot of apps and software that may-or-may-not work as expected. Thanx. AIUI, Fedora does have an experimental version: Rawhide. Alas, I'm beginning to get the impression that things are taken from Rawhide and dropped into the mainstream version before they're ready. That's my perception for a long time - I feel it's just that thanks to systemd, Gnome3 and F18's anaconda, things have become more visible to normal end-users. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
WTH is ntlvm2
Autofs in F18 won't work without it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f18: compiz, initial package for f18, and Gnome3
In fedora 18 the compiz has been gone - it's obsolete. Zoltan 2013/1/28 Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it: Is possible use the initial package for f18 compiz with Gnome 3? Or it is only for other D.E.? Thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WTH is ntlvm2
Am 28.01.2013 17:49, schrieb JOYCE POLZIN: Autofs in F18 won't work without it maybe a little more input would help what is your error message? where is a link to what exactly you refer? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WTH is ntlvm2
/var/log/messages: [13655.890568] CIFS VFS: default security mechanism requested. The default security mechanism will be upgraded from ntlm to ntlmv2 in kernel release 3.3 Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917402] Status code returned 0xc06d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917408] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13 Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917490] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13 uname -a Linux voyager 3.7.4-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 23 16:44:29 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux - Original Message - Am 28.01.2013 17:49, schrieb JOYCE POLZIN: Autofs in F18 won't work without it maybe a little more input would help what is your error message? where is a link to what exactly you refer? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WTH is ntlvm2
On 01/28/2013 04:49 PM, JOYCE POLZIN wrote: Autofs in F18 won't work without it. Presumably you meant NTLMv2 (NT LAN Manager Version 2, aka NTLM2). It's an ancient Microsoft authentication protocol used with Windows file and print sharing and other Windows network services. Sharing more details of what went wrong or how you fixed it might help you or other users hitting it. Regards, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18
poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 05:54 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: poma wrote: On 01/27/2013 06:00 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I think I have the extra apps loaded for xfce, but the weather app searching for something near Schenectady NY just says Searching and does nothing visible. FC17 found a station on Libarty St, three blocks from me, which updates frequently. What did I forget to install? I noticed that fc17 had libgweather installed, so I added it in case the dependency was missed. No change. So either the applet is broken or they are using a much smaller list, or it's broken. Before I submit a bug, I'll ask here if I'm just doing it wrong. Heya, 'xfce4-weather-plugin' is libweather.so[1] per se :) Grasp the code from git[2], it should work. … weather-Message: getting http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=Schenectady%20NYformat=xml weather-Message: getting http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/sunrise/1.0/?lat=42.809545;lon=-74.021672;date=2013-01-27 weather-Message: getting http://api.yr.no/weatherapi/locationforecastlts/1.1/?lat=42.809545;lon=-74.021672;msl=143 … I'm cc'ing Christoph[3] regarding package update[4]. Cheers, poma [1] rpm -q --provides xfce4-weather-plugin [2] git clone git://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cwickert#Maintainer [4] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=4205 After looking at the package git gives me, I find that I have no BUILD environment for fc18 yet, I'm doing laptops and desktops first. So at the moment I'll have to put this off for at least a few weeks. Many thanks for your help! There are three settings for Schenectady, NY: loc_name=Schenectady, Schenectady County lat=42.814243 lon=-73.939569 loc_name=Schenectady, New York lat=42.809545 lon=-74.021672 loc_name=Schenectady, Liberty Street lat=42.814491 lon=-73.942709 Put one of these three in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc: $ xfce4-panel -q mousepad ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc xfce4-panel Use Alt-Tab ;) Cheers, poma I actually copied the fc17 config, called weather-17.rc, to the fc18 config, called weather-11.rc, and that resulted in a functional weather applet. I take that back, an applet which gives me what I want. Another user entering Boston got Searching and not doing anything obvious, no cpu, disk, or network activity. I really think this is broken, will do a bug on it unless someone else has done so. I just logged out and back in, your panel restart w/o logout is a trick I saved but didn't really felt necessary, login is down at the just happens level already. Thanks for the pointer to the workaround! -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
On 01/28/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being denied (or something else in an rsync context). From your original email, you're probably seeing at least one denial to ssh in NetworkManager's context. Generally speaking, it's what the SELinux troubleshooter suggests. And, of course, it's often what's needed. Here, it just revealed that there's another issue with NM. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
{Q}Stardict
A week ago these worked in a KDE plasma applet. Now they return no results. Does anyone know how to fix? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WTH is ntlvm2
- Original Message - Am 28.01.2013 17:49, schrieb JOYCE POLZIN: Autofs in F18 won't work without it maybe a little more input would help what is your error message? where is a link to what exactly you refer? /etc/auto.cifs snip tpolzin -fstype=cifs,rw,noperm,user=*,pass=* ://misfs012.olympic.olysteel.corp/vol2/home/tpolzin BTW root mounting the same UNC with the same creds works fine.. - Original Message - /var/log/messages: [13655.890568] CIFS VFS: default security mechanism requested. The default security mechanism will be upgraded from ntlm to ntlmv2 in kernel release 3.3 Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917402] Status code returned 0xc06d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917408] CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13 Jan 28 12:01:08 voyager kernel: [13655.917490] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13 uname -a Linux voyager 3.7.4-204.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 23 16:44:29 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 01:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/28/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Don't do that. I see something like that frequently given as advice for generating a policy, but it'll only work if rsync is the only thing that's being denied (or something else in an rsync context). From your original email, you're probably seeing at least one denial to ssh in NetworkManager's context. Generally speaking, it's what the SELinux troubleshooter suggests. And, of course, it's often what's needed. Here, it just revealed that there's another issue with NM. It is also recommended that you submit this as a bug so someone more knowledgeable looks at it. In this case I would like to know what problems you are having with it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEGyPMACgkQrlYvE4MpobMxMQCffsJP6IyIlNgg3GZWgDxlWnt8 ekkAoJ9jdnSrr/xMbqM99PxywsLeucdn =Vh4t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18
On 01/28/2013 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I actually copied the fc17 config, called weather-17.rc, to the fc18 config, called weather-11.rc, and that resulted in a functional weather applet. I take that back, an applet which gives me what I want. Another user entering Boston got Searching and not doing anything obvious, no cpu, disk, or network activity. I really think this is broken, will do a bug on it unless someone else has done so. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18
Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/27/2013 06:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/27/2013 03:17 PM, poma wrote: Put one of these three in ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc: $ xfce4-panel -q mousepad ~/.config/xfce4/panel/weather-*.rc xfce4-panel Use Alt-Tab ;) I live in Camarillo, CA. I just installed the applet and tried to configure it. It came up with Newbury Park and only Newbury Park. Trying to search on either Camarillo, CA or my zip code fails. How can I find out for myself what the correct info is for the closest weather station (I assume that it's not Newbury Park because Forcastfox has no trouble getting it right.) and plug it in? Maybe just add _your exact_ information in regards to location and zip code to the file that contains the weather-app's configuration? This way you'll be given a choice when you try to change it, or at the very leastit should FIND it!... And mind you I'm just guessing here!. The issue is twofold: 1 - the initial location is taken from your IP, before you have 1st login. 2 - the search function is broken thereafter. Note: search worked at the time fc17 came out, that's where I got the correct address. Relatively new problem. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: XFCE Weather app can't find me - FC18
Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/28/2013 10:20 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: I actually copied the fc17 config, called weather-17.rc, to the fc18 config, called weather-11.rc, and that resulted in a functional weather applet. I take that back, an applet which gives me what I want. Another user entering Boston got Searching and not doing anything obvious, no cpu, disk, or network activity. I really think this is broken, will do a bug on it unless someone else has done so. https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 Thank you. I'll set it by hand until fixed. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: after cinnamon installation, each gnome3 session will start nemo instead of nautilus
El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 18:14 +0100, Joachim Backes escribió: Dear F18 users, my standard desktop is gnome3/Nautilus. Now, I installed for curiosity the cinnamon desktop. After logging out and re-logging in into a gnome3 session, nemo is started instead of nautilus. My question: is this done intentionally? Kind regards Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes PGP key ID: 0x1BB12F9E See in Gnome Control Center, Applications on start. If you find Nemo there, just unmark it or remove it. Usually that's enough. Regards, Lailah signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers
El vie, 25-01-2013 a las 22:40 +0100, Frantisek Hanzlik escribió: Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/25/2013 12:46 PM, James Freer wrote: LOL - good reply! I must admit i do get fed up with the twin names. In the Precise version... it was very much IMprecise. Just too many bugs now to be worth using. It often seems to me that they're too concerned about making their names cute for my taste, but I don't use it myself and keep my opinion to myself for the most. Now, alas, it's beginning to look like Fedora's going down that path instead of marketing itself as a serious distro for people who are more interested in how it works than in what it's called. Alas, from what I can see, unless I'm active as a Fedora dev (My programming skills rusted away decades ago.) the only input I have to the process is making suggestions. None of us mere users have a vote. Trend which I see in my Linux neighbourhood is quite transparent - people switch from Fedora elsewhere: some of them to Centos, others to different distro, some leave Linux entirely. Perhaps nobody now is using Gnome3. Reasons were always same - unacceptable quantum of bugs, which solving take unacceptable quantum of time (when problem was possible tackle/bypass by himself). Or there were some SW faults which was needed solve with developers, and in many cases it wasn't solved even until distro EOL. I myself was not afraid install Fedora at production workstations and servers, even in their beta phase - but it ended with F12-F13 (F14 was still good distro, but in beta phase there was unworkable systemd; in final release was upstart). And now I install Fedora not before several weeks after final releas - and for testing purposes only. Well, is curious... I see the opposite situation. People from other distros (especially Ubuntu) dropping into Fedora. May be a geographic difference? Regards from the south, Lailah signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Optimization Start Up of Fedora
carachi diego wrote: But the encryption mechanism is included in SELinux?I don't think so... There are also some other mechanism to encrypt the HDD independently from the operating system and I think also much more secure... I made three points on fast boot, (1) encryption for security, (2) no services may not be a useful configuration for normal use, and (3) Fedora provides working selinux. After rereading I don't see how I could have been more clear, I put them in separate paragraphs! I have no idea how you reached this bizarre conclusion, I think the first followup to your post was trying to correct you, but was overly subtl. 2013/1/27 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com mailto:david...@tmr.com Junk wrote: On 27 Jan 2013, at 10:32, carachi diego carach...@gmail.com mailto:carach...@gmail.com mailto:carach...@gmail.com mailto:carach...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everbody, I would like to know if someone knows where I can find some guide, tutorial that can help me to improve the performance of Fedora on my laptop in start up. I think that I need to recompile the kernel and dress it on my computer and remove all unnecessary services. It is true? Where I can find some additional information?? Thank you very much Bye -- I've had a quick look at this for Fedora 17 and it seems pretty good albeit brutal and unrealistic http://www.harald-hoyer.de/__personal/blog/fedora-17-boot-__optimization-from-15-to-3-__seconds http://www.harald-hoyer.de/personal/blog/fedora-17-boot-optimization-from-15-to-3-seconds Probably the most useful tip is Don't Use LVM. Unless the laptop is a toy, I would encrypt either /home or the whole root with home, depending on how you have it set up. Laptops do get lost or stolen, even if you have nothing financial, there are probably things which are no one's business but your own. Mailing addresses, mail people sent you, passwords to mail accounts, maybe social media accounts? Booting with no services saves time to login prompt, what is time to useful system? One of the reasons I stick with Fedora is that they have made the effort to make selinux work on the system, something I feel adds a layer of security worth a few seconds at boot. That's my priority, it may not be yours. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com mailto:david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.__org/mailman/listinfo/users https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/__Mailing_list_guidelines http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- http://www.2dd.it -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24 kernel: ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT ata1.00 is your first hard disk Thanks, Reindl. I only have one hard disk in my computer, which runs only Fedora 18. As a consequence of this problem, I cannot boot my computer. This problem occurred after the last updates, which included selinux-policy. i doubt that HARDWARE errors have anything to do with selinux-policy Thanks again, Reindl. By using smartctl, I get a message similar to the one below: Error 18 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 12126 hours (505 days + 6 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by re-installing Fedora. Now, everything seems to be working perfectly. By the way, enforcing=0 was to be placed in the line that starts with the word 'linux', right? How can one do the relabeling? Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 03:20 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: By running journalctl, I got the following: kernel: ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 action 0x0 kernel: ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x24 kernel: ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA EXT ata1.00 is your first hard disk Thanks, Reindl. I only have one hard disk in my computer, which runs only Fedora 18. As a consequence of this problem, I cannot boot my computer. This problem occurred after the last updates, which included selinux-policy. i doubt that HARDWARE errors have anything to do with selinux-policy Thanks again, Reindl. By using smartctl, I get a message similar to the one below: Error 18 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 12126 hours (505 days + 6 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle. Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by re-installing Fedora. Now, everything seems to be working perfectly. By the way, enforcing=0 was to be placed in the line that starts with the word 'linux', right? How can one do the relabeling? Paul touch /.autorelabel; reboot Will cause a relabel at boot, although not necessary now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEG3toACgkQrlYvE4MpobP2wwCeOsvnnkXjwF4WWzN2QYDWR7B+ Wc0AoK9lmmCpd5po4rI4MQqY54CjkfQD =d241 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Grub2/Grub2 Themes Usage Issues
Hi, I have activated the usage of the Starfield theme for grub2 in Fedora 17 and I am having issues with it. 1). Scrolling through the list of entries in the menu at boot time is horribly slow. Every time I scroll with the arrow keys the screen flashes black and it takes several seconds for the next/previous entry to be highlighted. 2). I have just upgraded from from an Nvidia Geforce 9800 GT to an Nvidia Geforce GTX 650 (this is a PCI-E 3 card plugged into a PCI-E 2 slot) and now I can see the graphics for the theme being drawn on the screen as I watch, whereas with the 9800 the screen draw was instantaneous. The issue highlighted in point 1) occurs independently of the graphics card in terms of the same thing happens with both graphics cards. 3). When I do an upgrade that upgrades the kernel the upgrade process tries to update the grub2 config and mbr but is unable to because /sbin/grubby fails with an access denied error even though I am effectively running in root mode via sudo (implemented via the wheel group). I have also tried this after switching to root mode via su but that fails with the same error. 4). Because of the error highlighted in point 3, when upgrading the kernel, I have to manual run a grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install to update grub and this process rebuilds the Starfield's Theme.txt file back to the defaults from the manual customization I have done from white/grey bold text. The black/black bold text does not work for me on the Starfield background. My system is an Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 motherboard, AMD FX 4 GHz 8 core cpu, Geforce GTX 650 2 GB graphics card, 16 GB memory, 256 GB SSD (this has Win 8 and the boot partitions for Fedora 17 and Ubuntu 12.10 installed on it) and 2 2 TB Seagate hard disks, so from my perspective computing power is not an issue. What is the best way to rectify these issues? regards, Steve attachment: samorris.vcf-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by re-installing Fedora. Now, everything seems to be working perfectly. By the way, enforcing=0 was to be placed in the line that starts with the word 'linux', right? How can one do the relabeling? touch /.autorelabel; reboot Thanks, Daniel. But what is the kernel line? The one that starts with the word 'linux' when one at the booting time presses the key 'e'? Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 03:40 PM, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by re-installing Fedora. Now, everything seems to be working perfectly. By the way, enforcing=0 was to be placed in the line that starts with the word 'linux', right? How can one do the relabeling? touch /.autorelabel; reboot Thanks, Daniel. But what is the kernel line? The one that starts with the word 'linux' when one at the booting time presses the key 'e'? Paul Yes, something like: linux /vmlinuz-3.8.0-0.rc4.git1.1.fc19.x86_64 root=UUID=43a08079-a288-4e6f-8767-404eb56b8df3 ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks.uuid=luks-d78a7fd8-3aba-4152-82c6-e9000fb2ca83 rd.luks.uuid=luks-f1cc16a9-e403-4eeb-b5c7-5a6aa567f7c6 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEG43QACgkQrlYvE4MpobOPBQCgtfyu8iMp5MJFMeP0bzoU5nl0 pWMAoLX6wECSXCNfvCb3BusDSaF0rxpV =A0oT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: Boot your machine with enforcing=0 on the kernel line. If you still have the problem, then it is probably not SELinux. If it works, then I would try to relabel. Thanks, Daniel. I have meanwhile overcome the problem by re-installing Fedora. Now, everything seems to be working perfectly. By the way, enforcing=0 was to be placed in the line that starts with the word 'linux', right? How can one do the relabeling? touch /.autorelabel; reboot Thanks, Daniel. But what is the kernel line? The one that starts with the word 'linux' when one at the booting time presses the key 'e'? Paul Yes, something like: linux /vmlinuz-3.8.0-0.rc4.git1.1.fc19.x86_64 root=UUID=43a08079-a288-4e6f-8767-404eb56b8df3 ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=True KEYTABLE=us rd.luks.uuid=luks-d78a7fd8-3aba-4152-82c6-e9000fb2ca83 rd.luks.uuid=luks-f1cc16a9-e403-4eeb-b5c7-5a6aa567f7c6 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet Thanks, Daniel. I had done that but with no success. However, I did not do any relabeling, unfortunately. Anyway, the problem seems to be overcome now. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables
So, I have a strange problem which I can't figure out. After Friday's updates, I was unable to ssh into the machine with a nonstandard port. I changed the port to the default and was able to get in. I was able to resolve this only after stopping and starting iptables service. Is this the norm? How is this fixed? I have never had to do this before. -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to set enforcing to 0?
Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com writes: touch /.autorelabel; reboot Will cause a relabel at boot, although not necessary now. One thing that has always bothered me about the first restorecon -rv / run after a fresh install is how many files are relabeled because the restorecon database and the rpm that the file came from disagree on the context. Should we put in a bug report for these? Are these things benign enough to ignore? -wolfgang -- g+: https://plus.google.com/114566345864337108516/about -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
01/28/2013 12:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How can one change the label of one's hard disk? man e2label -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On 01/28/2013 08:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, How can one change the label of one's hard disk? simple way to locate a command is; locate label|grep bin/ which on this system, shows; ]$ locate label|grep bin/ /sbin/dosfslabel /sbin/e2label /sbin/e4label /sbin/ntfslabel /usr/bin/mlabel /usr/bin/ppmlabel thereafter, you can man e2label man e4label Thanks in advance, most welcome. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:33 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: How can one change the label of one's hard disk? simple way to locate a command is; locate label|grep bin/ which on this system, shows; ]$ locate label|grep bin/ /sbin/dosfslabel /sbin/e2label /sbin/e4label /sbin/ntfslabel /usr/bin/mlabel /usr/bin/ppmlabel thereafter, you can man e2label man e4label Thanks in advance, most welcome. Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Error trying to install via BFO
Attempting to install via BFO (boot.fedoraproject.org), I get the following output ... dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: Could not boot. dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type journalctl to view system logs. dracut:/# Any ideas what the problem is or how to address it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On 01/28/2013 10:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. you are very welcome. my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On 01/28/2013 02:09 PM, g issued this missive: On 01/28/2013 10:00 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Thanks, Mike and G, for your very useful suggestions. you are very welcome. my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll over and float on his back you've got something you can sell tickets for! -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Celibacy is not hereditary. - - -- Guy Goden - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On 01/28/2013 02:09 PM, g wrote: my suggestion is from the old saying; give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. teach him how to fish and you feed him for a life time. Being a BOFH, I prefer one of two variations: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and if he's still hungry, it's not your problem any longer. Or, for the terminally slow to learn: Give a hungry man an electric eel and he'll never be hungry again. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to change the label of the hard disk
On 01/28/2013 02:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: You can lead a horse to water, but if you can teach him to roll over and float on his back you've got something you can sell tickets for! Continuing the sillyness: You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
OT Web servers and ISP
I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on a shared server. Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help. TIA Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Error trying to install via BFO
On 01/28/2013 03:02 PM, John Picard wrote: Attempting to install via BFO (boot.fedoraproject.org), I get the following output ... dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: Could not boot. dracut-initqueue[310]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type journalctl to view system logs. dracut:/# Any ideas what the problem is or how to address it? just guessing, but that is the error I get when trying to boot using the upgrade.img instead of the initrd.img. Unfortunately, the upgrade.img, although in the pxeboot directory, cannot be used to pxe boot. It can only work when used from grub, and is used that way by fedup. The only other thing I can think of, is that the initrd.img does not have the storage driver you need. Good Luck! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT Web servers and ISP
On 01/28/2013 10:35 PM, Roger wrote: I have run into a gotcha with the ISP which will not provide Rails 3 on a shared server. Can someone please enlighten me as to why not. What are the problems? Apologies for OT but google so far doesn't help. I had a similar situation I just started using vps instead. I think most ISPs are still using Rails 2 because they see no need to upgrade are also wary of the swiftness of the Rails/Ruby releases. Plus there is no definitive Rails 3 per se to speak of. So, your only choice is to go with either a dedicated server, a vps/cloud solution or a specialist Rails outfit. VPS/cloud is by far the cheapest most flexible IMO works for me. Cheers, Phil... -- currently (ab)using CentOS 5.8 6.3, Debian Squeeze Wheezy, Fedora Beefy Spherical, Lubuntu 12.10, OS X Snow Leopard Ubuntu Precise Quantal GnuPG Key : http://www.horse-latitudes.co.uk/publickey.asc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)
OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables fixes the problem. This is problematic because the machine can not be rebooted remotely to obtain access remotely. Is this a bug, or a new feature? What should this be filed against? This only started after last Friday's updates. Many thanks! -Original Message- From: maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:58 -0600 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables So, I have a strange problem which I can't figure out. After Friday's updates, I was unable to ssh into the machine with a nonstandard port. I changed the port to the default and was able to get in. I was able to resolve this only after stopping and starting iptables service. Is this the norm? How is this fixed? I have never had to do this before. -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
On 01/28/2013 04:57 PM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? My laptop doesn't do that. My desktop does, and most of the time I have to use the reset button, but if that doesn't work, there's nothing left except the power button and if so, there's not really much else I can do. You might try activating the Magic SysRq key (http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm) and seeing if that works, but for me, it only works when it's not frozen. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
Paul Smith writes: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? Thanks in advance, There are two consequences to a hard poweroff, like that: 1) The hard drive does an emergency park of the R/W head. That does incur some cost, in terms of wear and tear. 2) The filesystem state is inconsistent. That does not usually result in any damage. The filesystem should get automatically re-fscked on the next reboot. Still, after a forced poweroff, it is a good idea to touch /forcefsck and reboot one more time, to force a full fsck on all filesystems (which will take some time to complete). As far as recovering, there are basically two things that can be tried, before giving up and yanking the power. A) Sometimes only X, or the UI is frozen, but the kernel continues to crawl, to some extent, underneath. If you were connected to a network, you can try ssh-ing in, and running 'poweroff'. Of course, this assumes that you had ssh enabled. If you're able to ssh-in and execute 'poweroff', be patient, it may take 5-10 minutes for a crippled machine to figure out how to kill off everything, and reboot. B) Execute: echo 'kernel.sysrq = 1' /lib/sysctl.d/99-sysrq.conf sysctl --system When the machine freezes, try pressing Alt-SysRq-b to force a reboot, if the kernel is still alive, somewhere. This will still require a filesystem repair, but at least it'll save wear/tear on the hard drives. pgpKNpb3G9NzK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
On 01/29/2013 12:57 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? looking for more fish? (GBWG) if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it warm. if the power button is on top of machine, holding it _down_ is ok. if power button is on the front, holding it _in_ would work better. your alternatives would be pulling power cord from back of machine or removing power cord plug from wall. main thing is, does machine freeze often and what is causing it to freeze up. Thanks in advance, again, you are welcome. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
On 01/28/2013 05:31 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: When the machine freezes, try pressing Alt-SysRq-b to force a reboot, if the kernel is still alive, somewhere. This will still require a filesystem repair, but at least it'll save wear/tear on the hard drives. In an ext3/ext4 filesystem, journaling will often correct any errors without needing to fsck; if not, the system will do it on its own at boot. And, if the Magic SysRq is working, using Alt-SysRq-s will force a sync before forcing a boot. I need to do ^Alt-SysRq to get it to work and then, only if the system hasn't locked up. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Tool to compare directories
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:34:54PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 06:16:16AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:49:29 +, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Could you please advise me on a tool to compare two directories? That is a tool able to identify the files of the first directory that are missing in the second one? You can use diff -r to recursively compare directories. I use this instead: $ rsync -rvnc --delete olddir newdir AFAIK --delete flags files from the target which are not present in the source, which is the reverse of what the OP is asking for, so maybe the two directories should be inverted. Yes, I think you are correct. Thanks for correcting me. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
On 1/28/2013 5:36 PM, g wrote: if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it warm. Life would be so much easier if it was this easy ... Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:47:50PM -0800, Ranjan Maitra wrote: OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables fixes the problem. This is problematic because the machine can not be rebooted remotely to obtain access remotely. Is this a bug, or a new feature? What should this be filed against? This only started after last Friday's updates. What were in those updates? If isolating it and rollingback resolves your problem then you have your answer and can file a bug report. GL, PS: From what I see in my updated packages on Friday, there is nothing that even remotely relates to ssh or iptables. dracut-024-18.git20130102.fc18.x86_64 googlecl-0.9.13-3.fc18.noarch mdadm-3.2.6-7.fc18.x86_64 parted-3.1-9.fc18.x86_64 rubygem-multi_xml-0.4.1-4.fc18.noarch xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1:1.0.3-1.fc18.x86_64 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 03:47:50PM -0800, Ranjan Maitra wrote: OK, I believe this is a bug (or a feature I can not fathom) I reboot the machine, and lose access to the ssh port. Restarting iptables fixes the problem. This is problematic because the machine can not be rebooted remotely to obtain access remotely. Is this a bug, or a new feature? What should this be filed against? This only started after last Friday's updates. What were in those updates? If isolating it and rollingback resolves your problem then you have your answer and can file a bug report. GL, PS: From what I see in my updated packages on Friday, there is nothing that even remotely relates to ssh or iptables. dracut-024-18.git20130102.fc18.x86_64 googlecl-0.9.13-3.fc18.noarch mdadm-3.2.6-7.fc18.x86_64 parted-3.1-9.fc18.x86_64 rubygem-multi_xml-0.4.1-4.fc18.noarch xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1:1.0.3-1.fc18.x86_64 I am not sure how to figure out what were in those updates. Is there a way? I am not even sure that this is an iptables issue, only that restarting it appears to be resolving the problem (namely that ssh is set to access through the standard port, which is disabled in favor of the non-standard port in the ssd_config). I do see that the iptables package has not been updated at all since F18 was released. Neither has ssh, and both of them worked at least till Friday mid-morning, but not after Friday afternoon. One point to note is that I did update through yum (and have not been able to resolve my sound for this i386 machine yet). However, this iptables + ssh did work from Thursday afternoon for about 24 hours, as usual. Perhaps something else messed it up, and will need to be fixed. Thanks again for any help! Best wishes, Ranjan Ranjan -- Important Notice: This mailbox is ignored: e-mails are set to be deleted on receipt. For those needing to send personal or professional e-mail, please use appropriate addresses. GET FREE SMILEYS FOR YOUR IM EMAIL - Learn more at http://www.inbox.com/smileys Works with AIM®, MSN® Messenger, Yahoo!® Messenger, ICQ®, Google Talk™ and most webmails -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
On 01/29/2013 01:50 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/28/2013 5:36 PM, g wrote: if your system is freezing, put a heavy blanket around it to keep it warm. Life would be so much easier if it was this easy ... more true than many realize. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:23:11PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how to figure out what were in those updates. Is there a way? I am not even sure that this is an iptables issue, only that restarting it appears to be resolving the problem (namely that ssh is set to access through the standard port, which is disabled in favor of the non-standard port in the ssd_config). # yum history list # yum history info transaction id F18 uses firewalld by default instead of iptables. Maybe you need to open those non-standard ssh ports for firewalld? To do that you need to install firewall-config. # yum install firewall-config Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
telnetd mystery ....
First No need to bring up the ssh v.s. telnet stuff. Has anyone configured telnetd for use on F18? Running 64 bitbut this shouldn't make a difference. Anyway, I did the normal procedure. 1. yum install telnet-service 2. opened telnet port on the firewall (not that it mattered since local also fails) 3. chkconfig telnet on 4. systemctl restart xinetd.service When I telnet in (remote or local) I get this [egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet f18x Trying 192.168.0.168... Connected to f18x. Escape character is '^]'. Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) Kernel 3.7.4-204.fc18.x86_64 on an x86_64 (3) Connection closed by foreign host. And this ends up in /var/log/messages Jan 29 11:41:29 f18x xinetd[4488]: START: telnet pid=4665 from=192.168.0.18 Jan 29 11:41:29 f18x xinetd[4488]: EXIT: telnet status=0 pid=4665 duration=0(sec) However, if I add server_args = -D options to the /etc/xinetd.d/telnet file it works. But, of course, I get debug info that I don't want The same procedure in F17 works fine What could I be missing? -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables bug? (Was RE: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables)
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:00:05 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 08:23:11PM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:01:30 +0100 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu +li...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how to figure out what were in those updates. Is there a way? I am not even sure that this is an iptables issue, only that restarting it appears to be resolving the problem (namely that ssh is set to access through the standard port, which is disabled in favor of the non-standard port in the ssd_config). # yum history list # yum history info transaction id These are what were updated on Friday: Transaction performed with: Installed rpm-4.10.2-1.fc18.i686@updates Installed yum-3.4.3-47.fc18.noarch @fedora Installed yum-metadata-parser-1.1.4-7.fc18.i686 @fedora Updated yum-plugin-fastestmirror-1.1.31-6.fc18.noarch @fedora Installed yum-presto-0.9.0-1.fc18.noarch@fedora Packages Altered: Updated dracut-024-18.git20130102.fc18.i686 @fedora Update 024-23.git20130118.fc18.i686 @updates Updated mdadm-3.2.6-7.fc18.i686 @updates Update3.2.6-12.fc18.i686 @updates Updated parted-3.1-9.fc18.i686 @fedora Update 3.1-10.fc18.i686 @updates Updated xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-1:1.0.3-1.fc18.i686 @fedora Update 1:1.0.6-1.fc18.i686 @updates history info F18 uses firewalld by default instead of iptables. Maybe you need to open those non-standard ssh ports for firewalld? To do that you need to install firewall-config. # yum install firewall-config So, this is installed. I will look into this, but this does not explain why the ssh worked ok on Thursday. Ranjan FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Holding down the power button when the systems freezes
Paul Smith phhs80 at gmail.com writes: When the systems freezes, is it safe to hold down the power button to power off the machine? If not, what alternatives do you suggest? Simple test: if CapsLock and/or NumLock and/or ScrollLock still work (keyboard light reflects change in state), you have a shot at the Alt-SysReq-key stuff. The keyboard lights are actually controlled by the O/S (keyboard driver specifically). If the O/S is dead, the lights won't change state when you push whatever. I've had fairly good luck with this test. Lights work -- be patient and see if you can get an alternate console, shell in, etc. Lights don't work -- power key time. Cheers, Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: post-friday updates + ssh ports + iptables
Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored at inbox.com writes: So, I have a strange problem which I can't figure out. After Friday's updates, I was unable to ssh into the machine with a nonstandard port. I changed the port to the default and was able to get in. I was able to resolve this only after stopping and starting iptables service. Possible simple explanation: Do you have an iptables rule that restricts access to the target system to a specific host? If so, did you specify the system to allow in using a host name (or FQDN) or did you use that system's IP address? If the host name can't be resolved at startup but resolves once the system is fully up, you could have an explanation for the behavior you're seeing. I think I've also seen this with a slow DNS or a resolv.conf that includes an unavailable DNS server. Cheers, Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: McAfee Endpoint Encryption installed, now I can't boot Fedora
On Monday 28 January 2013 08:54 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: Google didn't turn up anything relevant for my particular situation... I was dual booting my work laptop with Windows XP and Fedora 17 w/ GRUB2. Last week my laptop got McAfee Endpoint Encryption forced upon it. Interestingly enough I can authenticate McAfee and still get to the GRUB menu. If I choose Windows XP then single sign-on works. If I choose Fedora it loads the initrd and then dumps into some sort of dracut shell. It doesn't appear to be able to find the LVM volumes. Can I assume they got encrypted as well? Thanks, Richard Have a look at this[1]. may it can be help you [1] https://community.mcafee.com/thread/19902 Warm Regards -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.linuxcounter.net No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: after cinnamon installation, each gnome3 session will start nemo instead of nautilus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 12:12 AM, Lailah wrote: El dom, 27-01-2013 a las 18:14 +0100, Joachim Backes escribi: Dear F18 users, my standard desktop is gnome3/Nautilus. Now, I installed for curiosity the cinnamon desktop. After logging out and re-logging in into a gnome3 session, nemo is started instead of nautilus. My question: is this done intentionally? Kind regards Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de mailto:joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes PGP key ID: 0x1BB12F9E See in Gnome Control Center, Applications on start. If you find Nemo there, just unmark it or remove it. Usually that's enough. Hi Lailah, thank you for your answer, which probably gives a workaround, but it does not answer my question, why nemo replaces the nautilus functionality in a gnome3 desktop. Kind regards Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes PGP key ID: 0x1BB12F9E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRB3KdAAoJEKzGLy0bsS+eR5YH/0bhQFjau54e/eWW4ydus9hJ aE11zIGuxd9Wv1RIT9RO1YGqw9sdJJixrkq8GOQeWe4bifTyu/vieJD+WX7AYVVe jIdP7e9NhRcuI13CSyi9caAVjUzx83A1rEc9CF7fukoIWjzlaPIaZt0LRrcsZSV1 rbXQvNuD0jzHAPeqVhPmngm9JbeS0ThZTin0HciVY2icXiA3SLuN/cOh6OxsLV/3 spKMvEWwObfHltXn5cxX3tXr8hGnfdqzZDLVfBdCUwRYJKnyVUh38uXLjo5Y1qi0 gmmZerUI4csNNLr0inwXFI3PWS+wCqHlDmDzRXWYgcwjTK2gyLRIC6sH6SHT9ok= =+y3T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
