Re: [389-users] group issues

2013-12-18 Thread Alberto Viana
Rich, https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47642 Thanks Alberto Viana On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:43 AM, Alberto Viana wrote: Rich, The behavior is a little bit different and I will try to explain: version:

Re: Cron vs. Whenjobs vs. Goaljobs

2013-12-18 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 00:52 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm interested in a replacement for cron which would allow me to run various cron jobs on demand, and mark them as having been

Re: Cron vs. Whenjobs vs. Goaljobs

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 12:43 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: * If I can replace /cron/ with /at/ and get the desired result, I'll be happy. You may want to consider using batch instead, running the command as part of setting up your login session. This will start the backup when the load average drops

Smooth Upgrade

2013-12-18 Thread Dave Cross
Upgraded my Dell XPS 14z laptop from F19 to F20 last night using fedup. Everything went smoothly and within an hour I was happily using F20. Probably the smoothest upgrade I've seen between two versions of Fedora (and I've been using Fedora for ten years). Thanks to everyone who put time and

SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread John Obaterspok
Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about best practices for Over Provisioning during partitioning. According to Samsung docs ( http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/us/html/about/whitepaper05.html ) *With the

Re: Smooth Upgrade

2013-12-18 Thread antonio montagnani
Dave Cross ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 10:21: Upgraded my Dell XPS 14z laptop from F19 to F20 last night using fedup. Everything went smoothly and within an hour I was happily using F20. Probably the smoothest upgrade I've seen between two versions of Fedora (and

gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-18 Thread M. Fioretti
Greetings, I'm testing gmvault (http://gmvault.org/) a gmail backup tool, on fedora 17 x86_64. I have followed all the instructions (enable the app, change gmail settings etc) in the install page: http://gmvault.org/gmail_setup.html However, the program aborts with the python error below,

Re: gmvault fails on fedora 17

2013-12-18 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 11:11:49 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: Greetings, I'm testing gmvault (http://gmvault.org/) a gmail backup tool, on fedora 17 x86_64. I have followed all the instructions (enable the app, change gmail settings etc) in the install page:

Re: how to (properly) shut down a fedora 20 virtual machine?

2013-12-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com: On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: [ 118.522477] PM: Syncing filesystems ... done. [ 118.986063] Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.005 seconds) done. [ 119.045554] Freezing remaining freezable

F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs

2013-12-18 Thread antonio montagnani
when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this message: a stop job is running for User Manager for 42 and it takes a very long time to stop Sometimes I get a similar message for CUPS printing Any idea?? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F20 (Heisenbug) on Acer 5720

rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am getting ready for a new install to f20 (currently still lagging behind on f17). I attached a 2TB USB drive, stopped MOST tasks (firefox with 16 open windows, a few terminals some running SSH, and VNC), and ran the following: $ rsync -ah --stats ./

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about best practices for Over Provisioning during partitioning. hmmm. I just ordered a Crucial M500 256GB SSD for my new install. I thought I would

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread John Obaterspok
2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about best practices for Over Provisioning during partitioning. hmmm. I just ordered a Crucial

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 08:15 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 08:15 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about

f20 install - updates repo selection greyed out

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is for an i386 install (Asus Eee900) I have a local repo with the os and the updates. I added -url=http://repo.homebase.home.htt/fedora/20/os/i386/ but this did not impact the install start, but I was able to select this on the Installation summary page using Installation source. But on

f20 - customize installed software

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I did not find where I can really customize the software install. I can select Gnome 3 and a few packages, but I cannot specifically remove and add packages. Or at least I did not see a customize install button. Perhaps it was off my screen? The ASUS is a little short, but Alt-mouse did

Re: rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Nichols
On 12/18/2013 06:56 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: $ rsync -ah --stats ./ /run/media/rgm/6XW1484R/lx120e.htt/rgm/backup-131218 Number of files: 30174 Number of files transferred: 25251 Total file size: 34.93G bytes Total transferred file size: 34.93G bytes Literal data: 34.93G bytes Matched data:

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Mihamina RKTMB
On 12/18/2013 04:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also discourages using LVM. I have often wondered why I use LVM on my notebooks; I don't see the gain over just plain EXT4 partitions. I have read a number of articles and I can't find any solid advantage. Well, I dont have a notebook, but a

Re: rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 10:05 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 12/18/2013 06:56 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: $ rsync -ah --stats ./ /run/media/rgm/6XW1484R/lx120e.htt/rgm/backup-131218 Number of files: 30174 Number of files transferred: 25251 Total file size: 34.93G bytes Total transferred file size:

how to remove uninstalled duplicates

2013-12-18 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, Following up on this post, it appears that the F20 duplicates have been downloaded but not installed. I tried removing the duplicates using https://franx47.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/removing-duplicate-rpm-packages/ but the error message is that the duplicates are downloaded but not

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 10:15 AM, Mihamina RKTMB wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also discourages using LVM. I have often wondered why I use LVM on my notebooks; I don't see the gain over just plain EXT4 partitions. I have read a number of articles and I can't find any solid

Updating ERRORS

2013-12-18 Thread Jim
ERRORS in UPdating on Fedora 18 . I have quite a number of updates but I keep getting these errors and preventing updates. What do these ERRORS mean ? Dependency Resolution Errors: Package: ffmpeg-libs_1.1-1.1.5-2.el6.i686 (linuxtech-release) Requires: libcv.so.2.0Package:

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: On 12/18/2013 10:15 AM, Mihamina RKTMB wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also discourages using LVM. I have often wondered why I use LVM on my notebooks; I don't see the gain over just plain

Re: Updating ERRORS

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:44:20 -0500, Jim wrote: ERRORS in UPdating on Fedora 18 . I have quite a number of updates but I keep getting these errors and preventing updates. What do these ERRORS mean ? You've added an incompatible package repository called linuxtech-release, which offers rpms

Another FedUp question

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
After running fedup --device --network 20 I got WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies libreoffice-pdfimport-1:4.1.3.2-12.fc19.x86_64 requires poppler-0.22.1-5.fc19.x86_64 libreoffice-core-1:4.1.3.2-12.fc19.x86_64 requires

Re: Another FedUp question

2013-12-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: After running fedup --device --network 20 I got WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies libreoffice-pdfimport-1:4.1.3.2-12.fc19.x86_64 requires

Re: Another FedUp question

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 10:26 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote: After running fedup --device --network 20 I got WARNING: problems were encountered

Re: Another FedUp question

2013-12-18 Thread richard . vickeryrv

resume from suspend broken by f19-f20

2013-12-18 Thread Neal Becker
Just updated f19-f20. Now resume from suspend is broken. First tried with nvidia blob. On resume just got blank screen. Could switch vt, but couldn't wake up display. Then removed nvidia back to nouveau. This time, on resume I just see the fedora boot splash. Cannot get any response to

Re: rsync not backing up all files

2013-12-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: Plus I would like rsync to report how long it actually took to run. I can't find an option for that. man time poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-18 Thread bruce
Hey guys. - subject says it all!! For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a system. I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. Also, are there any good (i know) security lists/resources

SOLVED: Re: Updating ERRORS

2013-12-18 Thread Jim
On 12/18/2013 11:00 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:44:20 -0500, Jim wrote: ERRORS in UPdating on Fedora 18 . I have quite a number of updates but I keep getting these errors and preventing updates. What do these ERRORS mean ? You've added an incompatible package

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-18 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
As it in not common to be hacked on linux, and linux is really strong after install, perhaps you could specify a little under what conditions you were hacked. Was a physical intrusion? communicational? software? a web page? an open service or port? an injection? stolen passwd? Normally, hacking

old FC haceked system

2013-12-18 Thread bruce
Hi. Got an old FC system that was hacked. - I know - my own fault (perhaps) should have updated, etc,,, The system is vital, need to extract all/as much of the files from the 700G drive as possible. I'm going to blow away the corrupt system, replacing the system with centos 6.5. On the

f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I can use it to edit various config files. Meanwhile, back to vi. -- users mailing list

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Marvin Kosmal
​HI What version of gedit are you using? Marvin ​ On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-18 Thread Rick Stevens
On 12/18/2013 09:05 AM, bruce issued this missive: Hey guys. - subject says it all!! For a basic centos/fedora install. Need to have pointers/docs/suggestions/solid steps to actually harden/secure a system. I've looked at a bunch of different articles/sites, so I'm also turning here. Also,

Re: old FC haceked system

2013-12-18 Thread Mark Haney
See comments inline. On 12/18/2013 12:49 PM, bruce wrote: Hi. Got an old FC system that was hacked. - I know - my own fault (perhaps) should have updated, etc,,, How do you know you were hacked? The system is vital, need to extract all/as much of the files from the 700G drive as

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 12:55 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: ​HI What version of gedit are you using? Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Evans
On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I think the dumbing down has gone a bit too

Re: how to (properly) shut down a fedora 20 virtual machine?

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:25 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: just catching up here and have to admit i'm out of my comfort zone ... is it safe to say that all of this represents an actual bug/issue and i wasn't doing anything imbecilic earlier? Correct. as in, when i was

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering about best practices for Over Provisioning during partitioning. hmmm.

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread bitlord
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 12:49 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Well here comes the questions on 'where is it now'. Of course since I skipped f18 f19, these may be 'old' issues So with gedit, where 'preferences'? I need to turn off line wrap so I can use it to edit various config files.

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 01:25 PM, Tim Evans wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Wow! They also hid the about tab! and no /root/install.log and /var/log/yum.log only has what has occured since install! So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running I

Re: old FC haceked system

2013-12-18 Thread bruce
Hi Mark, Thanks for the reply. 'ppreciate it. Basically, I'll be able to keep the corrupted system up/running, offline for a bit, so I'll be able to (more or less) really be able to see/recall what apps/functions are running, or should be running. And I'll be keeping a copy of the drive in a

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Mihamina RKTMB miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Also discourages using LVM. I have often wondered why I use LVM on my notebooks; I don't see the gain over just plain EXT4 partitions. I have read a number of articles

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 01:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new SSD disk (256gb Samsung 840 PRO) and was wondering

f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
During install I did not find a dialog to set my host name (FQDN). Somehow it picked up what I like for host, but the domain part it is picking up from dhcp of the subnet I was on during the install. I want to force the whole fqdn regardless of where I am. I did go through the network

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: During install I did not find a dialog to set my host name (FQDN). Somehow it picked up what I like for host, but the domain part it is picking up from dhcp of the subnet I was on during the install. I want to force

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: This makes even less sense for a laptop, but lets look at a desktop situation. Sure you could add a second disk, add it to your volume group, add space to your LV, and resize your filesystem to use it. One problem

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 10:20 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So how DO I find out what versin of gedit f20 base install is running yum list installed gedit HTH HAND. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:11 AM, antonio montagnani antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this message: a stop job is running for User Manager for 42 and it takes a very long time to stop Sometimes I get a similar message for CUPS printing Any

Re: F-20: no shutdown/reboot due to unstopped jobs

2013-12-18 Thread antonio
Chris Murphy ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 18/12/2013 20:48: On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:11 AM, antonio montagnani antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote: when I want to poweroff/reboot the machine I get this message: a stop job is running for User Manager for 42 and it takes a very

Re: old FC haceked system

2013-12-18 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013, bruce wrote: Hi. Got an old FC system that was hacked. - I know - my own fault (perhaps) should have updated, etc,,, [snip] I can't tell you how to restore because it's impossible to know what the intrusion was, what was done, and how you know what was or was not

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 02:35 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: During install I did not find a dialog to set my host name (FQDN). Somehow it picked up what I like for host, but the domain part it is picking up from dhcp of the

Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
Where did bluetooth support go in F20? Under F19, I had a bluetooth icon in the notification area and there was blueman to manage bluetooth devices. Yum tells me blueman has been obsoleted and replaced by BlueZ in F20, but I can't find any menu item related to Bluetooth. There is a program

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:41 AM, John Obaterspok wrote: Hello, I'm going to setup F20 with a new

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread bitlord
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 14:02 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Where did bluetooth support go in F20? Under F19, I had a bluetooth icon in the notification area and there was blueman to manage bluetooth devices. Yum tells me blueman has been obsoleted and replaced by BlueZ in F20, but I can't

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread bitlord
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 14:02 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Where did bluetooth support go in F20? Under F19, I had a bluetooth icon in the notification area and there was blueman to manage bluetooth devices. Yum tells me blueman has been obsoleted and replaced by BlueZ in F20, but I can't

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 02:18 PM, bitlord wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 14:02 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Where did bluetooth support go in F20? Under F19, I had a bluetooth icon in the notification area and there was blueman to manage bluetooth devices. Yum tells me blueman has been obsoleted and

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 03:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 12:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: And, it won't work with XFCE. This may be DE specific; you might want to check at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org/index.php and see what they have to say. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: My Lenovo x120e supposedly has the sata3 chipset, but only sata2 enabled. According to a few forums that I found when looking for what type of drive to buy for this laptop. Some think the sata2 option is to upsell

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 02:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 12:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: And, it won't work with XFCE. This may be DE specific; you might want to check at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org/index.php and see what they have to say. I just rebooted into Gnome and I

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 02:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 12:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: And, it won't work with XFCE. This may be DE specific; you might want to check at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org/index.php and see what they have to sa I've got it working now in Gnome, so

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 03:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: My Lenovo x120e supposedly has the sata3 chipset, but only sata2 enabled. According to a few forums that I found when looking for what type of drive to buy for this laptop.

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 12/18/2013 03:44 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: My Lenovo x120e supposedly has the sata3 chipset, but only sata2 enabled. According to a few

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason to run as

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? It was taken out and, as explained, moved to a post-install

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:57:22 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? Well obviously it is down in the network

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: You can check this with dmesg, find the SATA device note node! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did it get moved to??? It was taken out and, as

Re: SSD Partitioning OP/Trim recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: You can check this with dmesg, find the SATA device note node! Tomorrow -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they

f20 - nautilus

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
OK. Now I am getting really bummed out. I want TREEs, not places. Can't seem to do that. Where is my menu on top? OK. cntl-l works to get a copyable location. And that advise that gedit is managed via appmenu? I suspect Nautilus is too, but can't find the tool -- users mailing

Re: hacked - looking for doc/suggestions on hardening/securing systems from the start

2013-12-18 Thread NoSpaze
Common rootkits that exploit weaknesses of old systems. I'd say it's enough to keep updated systems. If want some more hardening, close opened ports, use a firewall or iptables, create a DMZ, use strong passwords, disable unneeded services. Re included the list. There are people who reads the

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dennis Kaptain
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? I will most likely try again tomorrow... 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt. That is what I am asking about. Where did

Re: f20 - hostname

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 05:43 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 05:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 04:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/19/13 03:57, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Yes. I have notes on this, and did the change. But past installs let me set it at install time via a dialog prompt.

Re: What hath Gnome wrought?

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
Anyone know how to get latest gnome to believe the DPI setting and not blow up 12pt fonts to gigantic proportions? OK, found a bugzilla with some useful info I can try: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709859 I also see there is a magic EDID override I can use on the kernel command

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

f20 - enabling update repo

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I see in http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/index.html sec 8.1.4 that I am suppose to add: repo=http://fqdn/os/i386/ to the install command (pressing tab at boot time). My notes for f17 was to use url= But how to specify the updates repo?

f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 06:16 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. Only a 16GB SSD on this ASUS ee900. Kind of

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2013-12-18 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I use a 3G+ usb key to connect to the internet. I originally configured the key. Where can I find the configuration file? Thank === Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: pdu...@gmx.com

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Thurman
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/18/2013 12:44 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/18/2013 02:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 12:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: And, it won't work with XFCE. This may be DE specific; you might want to check at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org/index.php and see what they have to

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! - Reply message - From: Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:

Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2013 07:50 PM, eoconno...@gmail.com wrote: I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! If I could config it easier. What is the app to change behaviour in apps like gedit? - Reply message - From: Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com To:

Re: Thunderbird-lightning Version Incompatibility

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: The current versions of thunderbird and thunderbird-lightning, namely * thunderbird-24.2.0-2 * thunderbird-lightning-2.6.2-3 don't seem to be compatible. I believe an update was pushed to F19 today to fix

Re: Fedora 20 / Bluetooth / XFCE

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/18/2013 06:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 12:44 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/18/2013 02:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/18/2013 12:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: And, it won't work with XFCE. This may be DE specific; you might want to check at the official Xfce forum,

installing Enlightenment

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Stern
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Desktop.html#sect-Desktop The F20 release notes say that to install E17, one does yum install @enlightenment but sudo yum install @enlightenment Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit

Weird gnome setup window in VNC virtual machine

2013-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
I installed 32 and 64 bit Fedora 20 virtual machines at work today, using VNC video (since I have an old server that doesn't know anything about spice). After the install, on the first run the gnome setup tool runs to ask a few questions about keyboard, cloud, etc. In the VNC client, a black

Re: f20 strange local repo behaviour

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:24:07 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: when I edited the yum.repos.d files to point to my local repos, I got the following error doing a yum update: Error: Package: gnutls-utils-3.1.17-3.fc20.i686 (updates) Requires: libopts.so.25 # repoquery

Fedora 20 / Gnome 3 crashing when ssh session hangs/fails

2013-12-18 Thread Digimer
Hi all, Twice today I've had my system lock up hard when my ssh session failed. In both cases, the mouse pointer moved still, but I couldn't corner bump or even do ctrl + alt + f2/f3/f4 to get a terminal window. My setup is a fresh install (not an upgrade) of stock Fedora 20 x86_64,

Re: installing Enlightenment

2013-12-18 Thread Bryce Hardy
The F20 release notes say that to install E17, one does  yum install @enlightenment Yes, that might be a typo, just leave off the @ sign, e.g. yum install enlightenment I have it installed here and it works very nicely. -- Bryce Hardy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: installing Enlightenment

2013-12-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Bryce Hardy wrote: The F20 release notes say that to install E17, one does yum install @enlightenment Yes, that might be a typo, just leave off the @ sign, e.g. yum install enlightenment I have it installed here and it works very nicely. It is

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