Hello
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM, fosiul alam expertal...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Predrag
I just realized that from server itself i can do search without
providing BindDN and password.
But Cant do this from client
example bellow from Server itself
[root@puppet-1 slapd-puppet-1]#
On 01.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking at going with the flow that a notebook should not need
an MTA
Any MTA for just one user will do. You won't even notice that it's
there. System load and the ability to handle a lot of connections is
not relevant in this case.
I will
On 01/01/2014 04:26 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 01.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking at going with the flow that a notebook should not need
an MTA
Any MTA for just one user will do.
But what's the fun in that? TPTB have decreed no MTA default. But CRON
is in by default, so
Afternoon folks,
I know that Fedora 18 is kinda obsolete but for a number of reasons, I have
to stick to it for the time being. However, I am quite sure that this
problem/behavior isn't restricted to F18. But since I am using that, ought
to say that.
So, here is the problem.
I have a ZTE K3800
Hello,
I did not find a way to control the screen brightness of a laptop in live.
xbacklight -set 90
does not work!
Thank.
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Alright, I learned about usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch_data and after
hell lot of poking with libusb and friends, got some inspiration. But, then
again.
[root@blah ~]# cat /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/19d2\:0154 | grep MessageContent
On 01.01.2014 14:33, Soham Chakraborty wrote:
Afternoon folks,
I know that Fedora 18 is kinda obsolete but for a number of reasons, I have
to stick to it for the time being. However, I am quite sure that this
problem/behavior isn't restricted to F18. But since I am using that, ought
to say
I know man but I cannot update. Because I have to stick to the policies
laid down by the internal IT team.
Nice comparisons you provided though ;) I will go over the links pretty
soon.
On another note, this looks like a pretty mundane problem, right. I mustn't
b the first guy to hit this.
On
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
into Spam Assassin for TB,...and will be customizing my Message
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
Yep.
Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know of any
spam filter program that already knows what
Hi,
Lately I have been facing a lot of difficulty trying to get the
information I want easily using journalctl. I find the manpage of
limited use; as in, it has the basic information but the more advanced
information is scattered in several manpages and the text is littered
with jargon more
On 01/01/2014 03:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
No. That's just blatantly wrong. journalctl's output is a pixel
perfect match of /var/log/messages.
...
Sure, it has some improvements controllable via options but nothing that
On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
into Spam Assassin for
On 1/1/2014 2:36 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
Yep.
Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know of any
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple thing?
On 1/1/2014 3:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it on...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I
Hi,
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be so difficult to do such a simple thing?
It isn't that difficult.
# yum install gnome-tweak-tool
Search for Tweak tool in the overview and go to the Top Bar section.
The command line equivalent is
#
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
What improvements? Is it possible to get it a pixel perfect match using
options?
What you do need to know is where the fields differ. This as you might
need to update your scripts to handle these differences.
I can not see any
On 01/01/14 15:50, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Well thank you all for your input...I've gotten Spam Assassin
installedand now I'm going to play with it to see just how precise
I ca get itI'll start off with the obvious
stuff..(viagra.online pharmacy..erroneous dating sites,
On 01/01/2014 10:19 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
If you want to find out what journalctl can support, look at the man
page. If you have suggestions for improvements, post it in Bugzilla like
I did yesterday.
OK, I thought you meant that you knew an option that did it pixel
perfect. Perhaps I
On 12/31/2013 10:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Your proposal is irrelevant when we are talking about current reality.
No it is by no means not. By implementing my proposal this mail is not
lost (as Lennart Poettering stated it in the devel list) by ending up in
/var/spool/mail. If included in
On 01/01/2014 03:00 PM, Alex wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
On 12/31/2013 12:27 PM, Alex wrote:
Hi, I have fc20 installed successfully on my desktop.
How can I configure the clock at the top to show the date? Why would
it be
Hi there:
I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between
suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when
folding the computer up.
Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page.
Thanks
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On 12/20/2013 12:33 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
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aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out the blog post
for more information:
A question, I
On 01/02/14 06:09, Richard Vickery wrote:
I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend
and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the
computer up.
Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page.
suspend keeps the system
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:20 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Your proposal is irrelevant when we are talking about current reality.
No it is by no means not. By implementing my proposal this mail is not
lost (as Lennart Poettering stated it
When I use my AVRISPmkII programmer to fool with the
microcode on my 3D printer motherboard, my mouse and
keyboard apparently get reset. All the settings I made
with xinput disappear and I have to re-apply them.
The ISP is running through the same powered hub as the
keyboard and mouse, maybe
On 01.01.2014 20:57, Suvayu Ali wrote:
Now my questions:
1. How can I filter messages printed to the logs from my cron jobs? I
will try to explain by example:
$ journalctl -ru crond --since=-3d
-- Logs begin at Sun 2013-11-17 02:48:46 CET, end at Wed 2014-01-01
20:31:27
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 11:52:04PM +0100, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
On 01.01.2014 20:57, Suvayu Ali wrote:
Now my questions:
1. How can I filter messages printed to the logs from my cron jobs? I
will try to explain by example:
$ journalctl -ru crond --since=-3d
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 10:50:39PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
(I have not done any changes to the configuration of the journal, so this
could be the journal of a normal user (well, perhaps not, in this case it is
my home web and mail server and it probably produces more journal data
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
On 01/02/14 06:09, Richard Vickery wrote:
I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between
suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when
folding the computer up.
Just
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:33:18PM +0100, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
Hello,
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora users
in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that aims to fully
replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out the blog post for more
On 01/01/2014 11:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
You are again missing the point that when evaluating changes, you can't
do so against a hypothesized change that noone is working on. You will
have to evaluate it against status quo vs someone willing to do the work
involved. You are not
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
my proposal could be regarded as a RFE to improve the handling of mail
created by different programs and daemons.
No. Not unless it is actually filed in bugzilla with the details. Filing
a RFE requires no prior knowledge
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have been using this since F20 release. I noticed there is no
completion available, unlike yum. I can probably reuse yum's completion
with dnf by simply `complete -F _yum dnf', but I'm afraid that will be
unaware of the subtle
On 01/02/2014 01:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
my proposal could be regarded as a RFE to improve the handling of
mail created by different programs and daemons.
No. Not unless it is actually filed in bugzilla with the details.
Filing a RFE requires no prior knowledge other than how to
On 01/02/2014 12:28 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/01/2014 11:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
...
Unfiled bugs
doesn't fundamentally change that although if you find any, you can file
them and get the transition to be smoother.
Do you regard the sluggish journal I have as a bug? I will
On 01/02/2014 01:12 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/02/2014 01:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
...
When no users are created by the installer, there is nothing to add to
/etc/aliases and as I noted before, user creation is an optional step
within the installer. I don't see anything in your
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
Let me rephrase that.
* The question should be in that part were you create the first user on
the system (and after the user creating step, disregarding if you have
added a user or not)
* You can chose
- keep
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
So what do we have these mailing list for if we are not supposed to
discuss ways to better Fedora? Rahul, I simply do not understand you on
this issue.
This list is for community support for end users.
As I
On 01/01/2014 04:12 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/02/2014 01:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
my proposal could be regarded as a RFE to improve the handling of
mail created by different programs and daemons.
No. Not unless it is actually filed in bugzilla with the details.
Filing
On 01/02/2014 01:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't see the installer developers will agree to this proposal. If
you want this amount of control, you are better off using kickstart IMO
but feel free to file it if you want to.
The proposal is intended to help the non technical users of
On 01/02/2014 02:01 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
ICBW, but I think he means that while we can work out exactly what
enhancement is needed and what's just re-inventing the wheel, nothing is
going to get done unless somebody files the appropriate RFE.
Yes, and at the moment we are in the work out phase.
Hi,
show date only shows month and day, not year. There doesn't appear
to be a date extension that does this.
It's 2014. That should hold you for a year. :-)
Oops, lol. I meant it only displayed day of week and time. After using
the gsettings suggestion, it now display the full date
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
The proposal is intended to help the non technical users of Fedora, and I
do not see them using kickstart, so that is not a solution.
Yes but non technical users wouldn't care to navigate the UI you are
proposing either. The
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 10:50:39PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
He states that his journal says Dec 30 04:36:05 hostname
rsnapshot[8265]: /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: ERROR: /usr/bin/rsnapshot
daily: completed, but with some errors but where to find that
error? In F19 these errors would have
On 01/02/2014 02:00 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
As I mentioned before, /etc/aliases will in that case be intact and
mail will be sent to root, just as it has been done for years.
So in the end you will be adding a complex UI for a optional edge use
case.
edge use case? I have to strongly
On 01/02/2014 02:17 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Yes but non technical users wouldn't care to navigate the UI you are
proposing either. The entire proposal only satisfies a very small
small niche for users receiving root mail and want to control exactly
how they get it during installation itself.
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
edge use case? I have to strongly disagree. We have mail from different
daemons etc that ends up in mail to root. The normal non technical user
does not see this mail, and may even by totally unaware of it. This mail
should be
On 01/01/2014 05:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
The default workflow of the installer does not mandate creating a non
root user
Unless things have changed since the last time I installed Fedora,
firstboot is set to run the first time you boot after the installation,
and that's where you're
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:31:23 -0500
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
The default workflow of the installer does not mandate creating a non root
user
Um... Unless you want to be able to login after the install :-).
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Joe Zeff wrote:
Unless things have changed since the last time I installed Fedora,
firstboot is set to run the first time you boot after the installation, and
that's where you're prompted to create your first non-root user
I don't know when the last time you checked but firstboot is not used
On 01/02/2014 02:31 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Why? Non technical users don't care about daemons. They are not
expected to baby sit daemons or diagnose problems with them. What
specifically did you expect is important enough in there? Show me an
example
Why? For the same reason we have
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Why? For the same reason we have notifications.
Notifications aren't the same UI as email. Even a cursory guide on UI
would tell you that.
OK, one example:
A user might install yum-cron to update the system
Bad example.
On 01/01/2014 05:47 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I don't know when the last time you checked but firstboot is not used in
Fedora anymore.
The last time I had to do a clean install was to clean up some major
problems in F 16 on my laptop. However, I just checked, and
firstboot.19.2-1.fc19.i686
On 01.01.2014 23:09, Richard Vickery wrote:
Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page.
man 5 systemd-sleep.conf
/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-3.12.5/Documentation/power/states.txt
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt
suspend to both aka hybrid-sleep(systemd).
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
The last time I had to do a clean install was to clean up some major
problems in F 16 on my laptop. However, I just checked, and
firstboot.19.2-1.fc19.i686 is currently installed on my desktop, running
Fedora 19. Unless it was taken out
On 01/02/2014 02:55 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Notifications aren't the same UI as email. Even a cursory guide on UI
would tell you that.
We have notifications to notify the user. The mail sent to root is (in
most cases) to notify the user. The UI differ, but it is used, in this
context, for
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
We have notifications to notify the user. The mail sent to root is (in
most cases) to notify the user. The UI differ, but it is used, in this
context, for more or less the same thing, notifying the user.
Sure but context in
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Vickery
Ah! Thanks! I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this
command rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to
look for the memory?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_%28computing%29
Note however
On 01/02/2014 03:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Sure but context in which they are used are very different. If you
really want to know the difference in detail, I recommend you get a
good UI book. My suggestion would be Don't make me think! by Steve
Krug.
Rahul, I am not talking about the
On 01/01/2014 06:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Initial setup replaced firstboot in Fedora 19 and user creation is an
optional step.
OK, but there are still two things this doesn't cover. First, I used
fedup to go from F17 to F19, meaning that firstboot wasn't needed.
Second, if F19 doesn't
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Rahul, I am not talking about the UI, I am talking about the information
you get from the two systems, and what that content tells the user. The UI
is totally irrelevant in this case.
UI always matters especially when we are
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 03:14:57 +0100
Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Even non-technical user do strange things, so I would say that your
notion of what non technical users do is pretty skewed.
I would say there is no such thing as typical, non-technical,
technical, etc. users. They are all fictional
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
OK, but there are still two things this doesn't cover. First, I used
fedup to go from F17 to F19, meaning that firstboot wasn't needed.
Everything that is installed is updated by Fedup. Fedup doesn't
automatically remove any
Hi
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
The only actual user I know and understand is me.
That is true for everyone else as well, no matter how much they
deny it.
Nah. People do have various ways of finding out what users do and need -
customer support tickets, surveys,
On 01/02/2014 03:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
UI always matters especially when we are talking about non technical
users. A typical non technical user would click on updates when the DE
notifies them and nothing more complicated than that.
Again. A notification notifies the user, a mail
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 02:25:01AM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 01/02/2014 02:17 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Yes but non technical users wouldn't care to navigate the UI you are
proposing either. The entire proposal only satisfies a very small
small niche for users receiving root mail
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
Again. A notification notifies the user, a mail notifies the user. I.e.
two different ways of notifying the user. The UI is totally irrelevant in
this case.
We have different perspectives on what consitutes non technical users,
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 08:19:50PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 10:50:39PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
He states that his journal says Dec 30 04:36:05 hostname
rsnapshot[8265]: /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily: ERROR: /usr/bin/rsnapshot
daily: completed, but with some
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
2. I would like to filter logs that typically go into /var/log/secure
(or other similar files); how do I do that?
SYSLOG_FACILITY=authpriv
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On 28.12.2013 06:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
email address and prevent them
On 01/02/2014 03:39 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I'm sorry but I do not see the reasoning behind the assumption:
non-technical implies we need to protect them from good practice.
Perhaps a bad term to use on my part. New Linux user would perhaps be
better. The idea was to make it easier for them to
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
wrote:
2. I would like to filter logs that typically go into /var/log/secure
(or other similar files); how do I do that?
SYSLOG_FACILITY=authpriv
On Jan 1, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Lars E. Pettersson l...@homer.se wrote:
On 01/01/2014 10:19 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
If you want to find out what journalctl can support, look at the man
page. If you have suggestions for improvements, post it in Bugzilla like
I did yesterday.
OK, I thought
On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
The proposal is intended to help the non technical users of Fedora, and I do
not see them using kickstart, so that is not a solution.
Yes but non
On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
More to the point, I find it counter productive to _remove_ important
debugging resources/tools irrespective of the technical proficiency of
the user of the system.
I switched to journalctl when it first appeared as
On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:40 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
The proposal is intended to help the non technical users of Fedora, and I do
On 2 January 2014 02:07, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have been using this since F20 release. I noticed there is no
completion available, unlike yum. I can probably reuse yum's completion
with dnf by simply `complete -F
On 01/01/2014 11:13 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/20/2013 12:33 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out
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