Re: fedora 20 to 21

2015-01-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick Dupre writes: Hello, I wish to update a fedora 20 installation to 21 by using a DVD. Is it possible? Yes. Actually, I burn a DVD bootable server fedora 21, but I did not find the option update. When I go to installation then System, I can select my hard drive and manually

Re: question about cd text

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 14:01, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: You might be thinking of a cue sheet, which ist a plain text file with a reference to an audio file (or multiple files). Klaus, attempt to read what was the original problem. :) OP only confuses himself and just because you want to help, do not

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/25/2015 06:08 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: There is no Ctrl+PrtSc shortcut related to gnome-screenshot. Some of the common GNOME shortcuts are available here [1]. Due to cognitive overload a user might had to face when a prompts shows up asking user to save screenshot, the complete interface

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 16:46, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/25/2015 06:08 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: There is no Ctrl+PrtSc shortcut related to gnome-screenshot. Some of the common GNOME shortcuts are available here [1]. Due to cognitive overload a user might had to face when a prompts shows up asking

Re: initscripts

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 23.01.2015 16:02, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 06:44:08PM +0100, poma wrote: Lukáš 'Allo 'Allo I see that some people are trying to modernize Fedora. But what about RHEL relictum - initscripts, particularly now that we have NetworkManager/ModemManager and

WiFi

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 00:05, Stephen Morris wrote: ... pci adapter. The only problem I have now is that it is very hard to get devices that support Linux from retail stores. Help yourself with these two references to search: http://wireless.kernel.org https://wikidevi.com -- users mailing list

Re: Replacement for rc.local

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 01:36, Alex Regan wrote: The commands I want to run are: for i in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/autosuspend; do echo 2 $i; done A deuce is the default $ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/power/autosuspend|uniq -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Unwanted screen lock

2015-01-25 Thread Philip Keogh
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Philip Keogh wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I installed the F21 XFCE spin. When the laptop wakes up after a suspend, the screen is locked, with a password prompt. I've disabled the option to lock the screen both in the XFCE Power Manager, and in

Re: Wireless can't ping wireless (even more info)

2015-01-25 Thread Jim Lewis
On 01/25/15 12:46, Ed Greshko wrote: When in this condition, what is the output of arp on big4? I meant arp -n Great idea Ed! It's been years since I worked on Ethernet drivers for IBM and forgot all about that command. Checking man it shows arp to be obsolete so I used ip: big4 /temp #

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread jd1008
On 01/25/2015 02:59 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 22:38, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the default one that handles images of the type taken by whichever snapshot tool

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/25/2015 09:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/26/15 09:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What else should I try? I don't use the command line interface to NM. But, if the only problem you're having is with PEERDNS not being set correctly for you needs then why not just edit the appropriate

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/25/2015 09:17 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I remember the group selection, I did not remember that individual packages were selectable. Once you'd selected a group, you could open up the list of programs. Generally speaking there was a core group of programs and a list of optional

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/26/15 10:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I just plugged in a F21 system via its ethernet, and it is getting the right information in /etc/resolv.conf so there is something not working on that F20 system... On 01/25/2015 08:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Continuing saga. I have

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/25/2015 11:09 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/25/2015 09:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/26/15 09:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What else should I try? I don't use the command line interface to NM. But, if the only problem you're having is with PEERDNS not being set correctly for you

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On 1/24/2015 3:29 PM, Alex Regan wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem with tigervnc and would like to take a screenshot of the error message to file a bug report. I know how to take screenshots, but where are they saved? The answer depends on the environment installed. I just did this within

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/25/2015 08:16 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Searching the dark corners of my mind, I don't really recall that there were ever a lot of customizations one could do for a new install. As I recall, you had a choice of picking major components or group of packages to install, in very broad, and

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: On 01/25/2015 08:16 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Searching the dark corners of my mind, I don't really recall that there were ever a lot of customizations one could do for a new install. As I recall, you had a choice of picking major components or group of packages to install,

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread jd1008
On 01/25/2015 04:57 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 23:54, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 02:59 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 22:38, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/25/2015 06:50 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: There are three separate installation images for workstation, server, and cloud so-called products. The server one seems to be a traditional installer, but does not really install any desktop components. Although they can always be installed

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Joe Zeff writes: So what you're saying is, there's no longer any installation form that you can customize as you install it. If not, it just makes it less likely that I'd pick Fedora for a clean install, because I've never seen a Live Image that has what I need, or allows a custom

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/26/15 12:42, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/25/2015 11:09 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/25/2015 09:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/26/15 09:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What else should I try? I don't use the command line interface to NM. But, if the only problem you're having is

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On 1/25/2015 5:46 PM, don fisher wrote: I have an Alienware 17-1 laptop that I would like to run Fedora linux on. The laptop has 2TB of disk, 32GB of ram and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M graphics, so I thought it would make a great development platform. I inserted the Fedora live DVD and booted.

Re: Load Kernel Modules Failure

2015-01-25 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 25.01.2015, Stephen Morris wrote: Immediately after booting from the grub menu in F21 the first message I get is 'Failure to start Load Kernel Modules'. Does anyone know what this message means and how I rectify it? Welcome to another systemd madness! First, check if systemctl status

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 25.01.2015, Alex Regan wrote: If they're just in the cut buffer, what app can I use to paste them in to? I'd rather not have to install GIMP just for this Maybe you *should* use GIMP, because it handles such cases in an extremely convenient way. You could just press Shift+Ctrl+V

Re: Why does Anaconda overrides user decisions?

2015-01-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 13:23 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: Using the 4 partitions as primary is bad practice because it prevents additional partitions for no good reason. There isn't a negative to having extended partitions,

Re: open source - drawing/online app

2015-01-25 Thread g
On 01/24/2015 11:19 PM, bruce wrote: Hey guys. I know, this has nothing to do directly with Fed. However, I'm looking for a good/free online app that can be used to do network diagrams. If anyone has a good/free online soln, feel free to let me know!! have a look at these links;

Re: Wireless can't ping wireless (even more info)

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 04:16, Jim Lewis wrote: I guess the only bad thing about spending time on crap like this is I used to get paid real money to debug and fix crap like this :). There ain't no such lunch as a free thing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Saturday, January 24, 2015 07:06:21 PM Alex Regan wrote: I experimented a bit, and alt-prtscrn and shft-prtscrn do save a file to ~/Pictures. ctrl-prtsrn does not. That's what I was using when reported having a problem. I still have no idea where that goes, but it's okay.

fedora 20 to 21

2015-01-25 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I wish to update a fedora 20 installation to 21 by using a DVD. Is it possible? Actually, I burn a DVD bootable server fedora 21, but I did not find the option update. When I go to installation then System, I can select my hard drive and manually partitioning I can see the installed system

Re: question about cd text

2015-01-25 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 24.01.2015 um 06:34 schrieb Tim: On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 12:09 +0100, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: you can't build an iso, as there are no isos for audio cds, but I may be corrected Not an iso, as such, but it's possible to build an image of what will be burnt onto an audio CD, though I can't

Re: Replacement for rc.local

2015-01-25 Thread poma
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Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread jd1008
On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the default one that handles images of the type taken by whichever snapshot tool is used. For example, KSnapshot takes .png images, and Gwenview by

Re: Unwanted screen lock

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 19:01, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I installed the F21 XFCE spin. When the laptop wakes up after a suspend, the screen is locked, with a password prompt. I've disabled the option to lock the screen both in the XFCE Power Manager, and in screensaver settings, but the display is

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 22:38, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the default one that handles images of the type taken by whichever snapshot tool is used. For example, KSnapshot

Re: Unwanted screen lock

2015-01-25 Thread Philip Keogh
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I installed the F21 XFCE spin. When the laptop wakes up after a suspend, the screen is locked, with a password prompt. I've disabled the option to lock the screen both in the XFCE Power Manager, and in screensaver settings, but the display is still

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread jd1008
On 01/25/2015 04:57 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 23:54, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 02:59 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 22:38, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the

Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread don fisher
I have an Alienware 17-1 laptop that I would like to run Fedora linux on. The laptop has 2TB of disk, 32GB of ram and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M graphics, so I thought it would make a great development platform. I inserted the Fedora live DVD and booted. It asked If I wanted to check the disk,

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 23:54, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 02:59 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 22:38, jd1008 wrote: On 01/25/2015 01:27 PM, poma wrote: On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the default one that handles images of the

F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Continuing saga. I have studied up on the nmcli commands. If I do: nmcli dev show p6p1 I see that: DHCP.OPTION[9]:domain_name = htt-consult.com DHCP.OPTION[23]: domain_name_servers = 192.168.224.2 But /etc/resolv.conf, which according to the comment is Generated by NetworkManager has

Unwanted screen lock

2015-01-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I installed the F21 XFCE spin. When the laptop wakes up after a suspend, the screen is locked, with a password prompt. I've disabled the option to lock the screen both in the XFCE Power Manager, and in screensaver settings, but the display is still locked. Anyone has any idea why the

Re: Saving screenshots

2015-01-25 Thread poma
On 25.01.2015 20:17, Kenneth Marcy wrote: ... The easiest application into which to paste the image is the default one that handles images of the type taken by whichever snapshot tool is used. For example, KSnapshot takes .png images, and Gwenview by default ... Yes of course, Xfce4

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
And I just plugged in a F21 system via its ethernet, and it is getting the right information in /etc/resolv.conf so there is something not working on that F20 system... On 01/25/2015 08:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Continuing saga. I have studied up on the nmcli commands. If I do: nmcli

Re: F20 - broken ethernet setup in NetworkManager?

2015-01-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/26/15 09:24, Robert Moskowitz wrote: What else should I try? I don't use the command line interface to NM. But, if the only problem you're having is with PEERDNS not being set correctly for you needs then why not just edit the appropriate ifcfg accordingly? -- If you can't laugh at

Re: Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5 on Alienware laptop

2015-01-25 Thread Sam Varshavchik
don fisher writes: I have an Alienware 17-1 laptop that I would like to run Fedora linux on. The laptop has 2TB of disk, 32GB of ram and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 880M graphics, so I thought it would make a great development platform. I inserted the Fedora live DVD and booted. It asked If I