Re: bash: ./WINPM-32.EXE: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

2022-07-26 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 26 Jul 2022 at 18:00, Samuel Sieb wrote: Date sent: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 18:00:11 -0700 Subject:Re: bash: ./WINPM-32.EXE: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb

Re: This is...disturbing...

2022-07-26 Thread Lily White
On 7/27/22 7:36 AM, Tim via users wrote: So, yes, I do see the value in locking down closed-source systems, to make them a reliable and safer system. The world would be a better place if Windows wasn't such an utter disaster. You might think you don't care if Windows self destructs while

Re: bash: ./WINPM-32.EXE: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

2022-07-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/26/22 17:48, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Use to be able to run command without added wine to front?? With Fedora 35 up to 7.10 worked fine, but 7.12 verion would cuase a spinning icon when opening email message. No error or anything showing in top or ps -ef. Did a dnf downgrade wine, and

bash: ./WINPM-32.EXE: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

2022-07-26 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Use to be able to run command without added wine to front?? With Fedora 35 up to 7.10 worked fine, but 7.12 verion would cuase a spinning icon when opening email message. No error or anything showing in top or ps -ef. Did a dnf downgrade wine, and it downgraded to 6.16 version and problem

Re: Wifi Device Last Used Message From Network Manager - What Does the Message Mean?

2022-07-26 Thread Stephen Morris
On 25/7/22 20:15, Alex wrote: It means what it says. If you are connected to Wi-Fi, it will display last used Now, disconnect and it will instead say last used 1 minute ago. Thanks Alex, that is what I thought it meant, but what does it mean when it says "Device last used 30 minutes ago" on a

Re: This is...disturbing...

2022-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 21:04 +0200, Alex wrote: > Pluton is being pitched as right now, as a firmware security device > to prevent malware". I think these kinds of things do not work > because at the end of the day the user will want to install whatever > software they want, so whatever that thing

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 14:39 +, Chris Murphy wrote: > Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in > troubleshooting system problems? For some situations/people, yes. I think you need a bare-bones command line to get back control of a borked system. But an additional

Re: Monitor speakers change which "device" they are

2022-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 16:20 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > My devices don't have a power switch, so I unplug the USB cable, And the plugs and sockets wear out, they're not a good design. :-( > but then I end up wanting more front-panel USB ports. I just > installed Fedora on an old iMac

Re: root account

2022-07-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/26/22 15:52, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-07-25 at 18:50 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: there's no point in expiring the password to an account you're using yourself... I see no point in ever expiring any password, unless you're auto- locking out sacked employees because you're too

Re: root account

2022-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-07-25 at 18:50 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > there's no point in expiring the password to an account > you're using yourself... I see no point in ever expiring any password, unless you're auto- locking out sacked employees because you're too incompetent to do the job properly when

Re: rescue kernel

2022-07-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 20:08:51 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > In the past I could regenerate a rescue kernel by using > /etc/kernel/postinst.d/51-dracut-rescue-postinst.sh > > But now, this script does not exist any more > What is the alternative to restore the /boot/*rescue* files? Run

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:32:38 +0200 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > - grub hides itself and is difficult to interrupt Yea, I've got a "big hammer" script that runs automatically after dnf to beat on the grub.cfg file in case it just got written by the dnf update. It clobbers any place that sets timeout

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 7/26/22 16:39, Chris Murphy wrote: OK thanks for the responses so far. I have followup questions for everyone, even if you didn't previously respond. Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in troubleshooting system problems? No, a graphical environment implies too

Re: Monitor speakers change which "device" they are

2022-07-26 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 11:06 AM Tim via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi George N. White III: > > It would be helpful to have a tutorial "How to manage multiple audio > > devices" using slots. > > Yes! > > > The capabilities to get around the order in which devices are > >

Re: This is...disturbing...

2022-07-26 Thread Alex
Welp. "Microsoft’s other use of DICE+RIoT, in their own words, is to enable “Zero Trust Computing.”" I mean, that's a pretty cool and appropriate name: Zero trust in that I don't trust it :). Per the article: "Now, Microsoft might look at the above and laugh this off as fear mongering, as

Re: EFI

2022-07-26 Thread Roger Heflin
df /boot/efi And see if it is really mounted. I am going to guess it is not. And it has nofail so will cleanly fail and not block the os. After the df then try a mount /boot/efi On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 1:02 PM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there not something wrong with this > >

This is...disturbing...

2022-07-26 Thread Dave Ihnat
Ran across this today: https://gabrielsieben.tech/2022/07/25/the-power-of-microsoft-pluton-2/ I'm concerned... -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: update fails

2022-07-26 Thread Barry
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 17:43, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > During a dnf updade fo a fc34, I got > 3 errors message like > timed out waiting for device (I do not have the rest of the message, there > was a zm!) > > Then I restared the dnf updade, > and got: > Error: An rpm exception

rescue kernel

2022-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, In the past I could regenerate a rescue kernel by using /etc/kernel/postinst.d/51-dracut-rescue-postinst.sh But now, this script does not exist any more What is the alternative to restore the /boot/*rescue* files? Thank

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Barry
> On 26 Jul 2022, at 15:39, Chris Murphy wrote: > > OK thanks for the responses so far. I have followup questions for everyone, > even if you didn't previously respond. > > Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in > troubleshooting system problems? > > Do you think

EFI

2022-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Is there not something wrong with this When /boot/efi is ot mounted: ls /boot/efi/ EFI while in the fstab UUID=A686-D625 /boot/efi vfat umask=0077,shortname=winnt,nofail 0 2 Indeed, I really have the mount the of /boot/efi during the boot and of course ls

update fails

2022-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, During a dnf updade fo a fc34, I got 3 errors message like timed out waiting for device (I do not have the rest of the message, there was a zm!) Then I restared the dnf updade, and got: Error: An rpm exception occurred: package not installed and I launched dnf update Last metadata

Re: sound device changed on me?

2022-07-26 Thread Roger Heflin
A global "udevadm trigger" often has weird effects. All of the initial setup udev rules get re-run and will re-assert those settings and override the current state. Without digging through the udev rules it would be hard to tell, but in general a udevadm trigger re-executes the udev rules used

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 26.07.22 um 16:39 schrieb Chris Murphy: OK thanks for the responses so far. I have followup questions for everyone, even if you didn't previously respond. Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in troubleshooting system problems? Do you think a graphical rescue

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Doug Herr
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > OK thanks for the responses so far. I have followup questions for > everyone, even if you didn't previously respond. > > Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in > troubleshooting system problems? I like having a

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread little . moon8691
Although I personally use a snapshot+rollback mechanism, I think for most users a rescue environment is more useful, because from my own experience and what I read from last question, many cases when the system end up cannot boot is from users playing with the boot process (eg grub) and make

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:39:25 - Chris Murphy wrote: > Do you think a snapshot+rollback mechanism would be more or less useful than > a graphical rescue environment, for troubleshooting system problems? I think a snapshot system would only be helpful if I could utterly disable it. (I

Re: anyone using kernel 5.19-rc7 ?

2022-07-26 Thread old sixpack13
> is anyone already using kernel 5.19-rc7 ? > if so: > are you also seeing higher idle CPU frequency compared to 5.18.xyz ? > > on my Intel i5-11400 (freq. range 800-4400 MHz) I see idle freq.: > - with kernel 5.18: ~800 MHz > - with kernel 5.19: ~2600 MHz (what is the base freq.) > > watch -n1

Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Chris Murphy
OK thanks for the responses so far. I have followup questions for everyone, even if you didn't previously respond. Do you think a graphical rescue environment would be helpful in troubleshooting system problems? Do you think a graphical rescue environment using volatile storage, would be

sound device changed on me?

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
I was changing some udev rules last night and ran "udevadm trigger" (which I found on the internet to avoid a reboot). This morning trying to watch a video, I had no sound. For some reason my sound output had been set to SPDIF rather than the HDMI I always had it set to. Was that a "trigger"

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-26 Thread Chris Murphy
This is the current Fedora GRUB doc. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2 This doc needs updating but skimming it I'm not finding outright bad advice.

Re: Monitor speakers change which "device" they are

2022-07-26 Thread Tim via users
Hi George N. White III: > It would be helpful to have a tutorial "How to manage multiple audio > devices" using slots. Yes! > The capabilities to get around the order in which devices are > discovered is there, but the user tools need a higher-level way to > present and manage the priority and

Re: Monitor speakers change which "device" they are

2022-07-26 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 6:19 PM Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2022-07-25 at 07:55 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > I think this is a consequence of parallel boot. The order in which > > devices are discovered is non-deterministic. > > Or, at all. Occasionally my system doesn't find any audio

Re: .serverauth.2688 does not exist

2022-07-26 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,   I think that the issue with one or the gnome-extension. If I remove the loading of the extensions, the issue disappear. Then, I can reestablish the extension without problem. However, II have to remove the extension evey time that I wish to log in in graphic mode. Nevertheless, I