Re: mounting a drive on F37
On 03/29/2023 10:45 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: So, how do I mount this drive onto my /etc/fstab? Sorry if things are not clear, but I am happy to clarify further and provide more information. Use gparted to give it a label. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: mounting a drive on F37
On 3/29/23 21:45, Ranjan Maitra wrote: I am trying to modify my /etc/fstab to mount a drive (where I want to place a backup). From looking at the current setup created by anaconda, it looks like I have to setup using UUID or LABEL (however these seem to be blank, see below). First, my setup. I have one SSD that has / and all the partitions associated with it. I have three additional drives, two of which are hardware (for historical reasons) RAIDed, and have /home in them, and a third new drive that is a "free agent" (sorry for not knowing the correct term, but I hope that I can convey the meaning). I want this to be mounted at boot as /mnt/whatever (I have verified that this mount-point has been created and exists). So, I look at my /dev/disk/by-disk-seq and see: ~$ ls 1@ 2@ 4@ 5@ 6@ ~$ ll * lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 1 -> ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 2 -> ../../sdb lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 4 -> ../../sdc lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 5 -> ../../sr0 OK, there is an a, b and c. The d is the first drive that has the /, the sr0 is the swap, and the a, b and c are the three drives. zram0 is the swap. sr0 is an optical disk drive of some sort. It appears to me that the sda and sdc are the ones raided (they have the same UUID and also lsblk indicates so (I have made up the part numbers here, for security). I have to say that I expected sda and sdb to be the RAIDed drives, I thought that sdc would be the new one that has been put in. But perhaps I am wrong in my understanding. The UUID has no security ramifications. It only matters if someone has physical access to your computer and if so, they would be able to read them anyway. The disk numbering depends on which port they're plugged into and which order those ports are scanned. $ lsblk -f NAMEFSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS sda isw_raid_member 1.3.00 sda1 ext41.0 x md126 md126p1 ext41.0 x 116.3G8% /home md127 sdb sdc isw_raid_member 1.3.00 sdc1 ext41.0 x md126 md126p1 ext41.0 x 116.3G8% /home md127 sdd sdd1 vfatFAT32E56F-E0D8 sdd2 ext41.0 y 595.9M8% /boot sdd3 vfatFAT321616-D18F 933.7M 2% /boot/efi sdd4 ext41.0 u 43.2G 0% /tmp sdd5 ext41.0 v 43.2G 0% /usr/local sdd6 swap1w[SWAP] sdd7 ext41.0 z 76.3G14% / sr0 zram0 [SWAP] But, my problem is that /dev/sdb does not appear to have a UUID number. Indeed, I get nothing back when I try: $ sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 Does that give nothing or an error? That listing indicates that the drive isn't partitioned at all. What does "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" show? Or run the "Disks" application (if you have Gnome) to see what's there and create a partition. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
mounting a drive on F37
Hi, I am trying to modify my /etc/fstab to mount a drive (where I want to place a backup). From looking at the current setup created by anaconda, it looks like I have to setup using UUID or LABEL (however these seem to be blank, see below). First, my setup. I have one SSD that has / and all the partitions associated with it. I have three additional drives, two of which are hardware (for historical reasons) RAIDed, and have /home in them, and a third new drive that is a "free agent" (sorry for not knowing the correct term, but I hope that I can convey the meaning). I want this to be mounted at boot as /mnt/whatever (I have verified that this mount-point has been created and exists). So, I look at my /dev/disk/by-disk-seq and see: ~$ ls 1@ 2@ 4@ 5@ 6@ ~$ ll * lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 1 -> ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 2 -> ../../sdb lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 4 -> ../../sdc lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 29 14:01 5 -> ../../sr0 OK, there is an a, b and c. The d is the first drive that has the /, the sr0 is the swap, and the a, b and c are the three drives. It appears to me that the sda and sdc are the ones raided (they have the same UUID and also lsblk indicates so (I have made up the part numbers here, for security). I have to say that I expected sda and sdb to be the RAIDed drives, I thought that sdc would be the new one that has been put in. But perhaps I am wrong in my understanding. Anyway, $ lsblk -f NAMEFSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS sda isw_raid_member 1.3.00 sda1 ext41.0 x md126 md126p1 ext41.0 x 116.3G8% /home md127 sdb sdc isw_raid_member 1.3.00 sdc1 ext41.0 x md126 md126p1 ext41.0 x 116.3G8% /home md127 sdd sdd1 vfatFAT32E56F-E0D8 sdd2 ext41.0 y 595.9M8% /boot sdd3 vfatFAT321616-D18F 933.7M 2% /boot/efi sdd4 ext41.0 u 43.2G 0% /tmp sdd5 ext41.0 v 43.2G 0% /usr/local sdd6 swap1w[SWAP] sdd7 ext41.0 z 76.3G14% / sr0 zram0 [SWAP] But, my problem is that /dev/sdb does not appear to have a UUID number. Indeed, I get nothing back when I try: $ sudo blkid /dev/sdb1 or even $ sudo blkid /dev/sdb So, how do I mount this drive onto my /etc/fstab? Sorry if things are not clear, but I am happy to clarify further and provide more information. Many thanks for your help, and best wishes, Ranjan ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: what is my dns?
On 03/29/2023 08:22 PM, Tim via users wrote: Perhaps initially, but if you're sent to a page with Google ads, you check your gmail, you use your Android phone, or do any number of ordinary internet activities, and you're identifiable. That may be so, but at least by using startpage.com you're not letting them mine your search history as well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: what is my dns?
Tim: >> Look at Google, it's goal is databasing everything. Tie a bunch of >> queries to the same IP, roll it all together, it doesn't matter what >> privacy options you attempt, which different browsers you use, or if >> you remove cookies. If you don't want some queries in that database, >> don't use Google for them. They continually find ways to work around >> any things we do to stop them doing that. Joe Zeff: > Try using startpage.com instead. Yes, it sends its queries through > google, but the queries are sent from them, not you, and there's nothing > tying them to your IP. Perhaps initially, but if you're sent to a page with Google ads, you check your gmail, you use your Android phone, or do any number of ordinary internet activities, and you're identifiable. I seem to recall some research saying you only needed to do about four things on the internet before you analysable. If you run a browse with script blocker, you notice that so many pages have over a dozen different domains running scripts for that page. The world-wide-web was aptly named. Since we're not planning malfeasance, most of us have less concerns about getting on a list (depending on what country you live it). Many have lost their pissed-off-ness about that, but the advertising following you around is annoying, can be considered harassment, and medical issues people read up about can ruin job opportunities, etc. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: what is my dns?
On 03/29/2023 04:22 AM, Tim via users wrote: Look at Google, it's goal is databasing everything. Tie a bunch of queries to the same IP, roll it all together, it doesn't matter what privacy options you attempt, which different browsers you use, or if you remove cookies. If you don't want some queries in that database, don't use Google for them. They continually find ways to work around any things we do to stop them doing that. Try using startpage.com instead. Yes, it sends its queries through google, but the queries are sent from them, not you, and there's nothing tying them to your IP. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: what is my dns?
On Tue, 2023-03-28 at 15:59 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I was just wanting to see what DNS I was actually using.
>
> I have this in my /etc/naned/conf
>
> options {
> # the following forwarders is Family Friendly Open DNS (no porn
> sites):
> forwarders { 208.67.222.123; 208.67.220.123; };
> };
The above name servers will actually handle the beginning of your
queries for all domains (they'll going the through the same processes
as if your name server did it, itself), except for any exceptions that
you've configured, such as:
> and
>
> zone "bravesoftware.com" IN {
> type forward;
> forward only;
> forwarders {8.8.8.8; 8.8.4.4; };
> };
Your name server will pass the task onto 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 for that
domain name (and its subdomains, e.g. www.bravesoftware.com, it's mail
servers, etc), and that name server will do the queries.
In essence, your name server is doing nothing but pass some queries
here, other's there.
> The purpose is that Open DNS blocks Brave Browser's
> Private Window with Tor's name resolution as it
> is a work around for viewing pron sites.
>
> Since I do not deliberately go to porn sites,
> I use Family friendly Open DNS to protect me
> from an funny business and trickery and
> me being a kluz with the mosue at times.
>
> But I still want to be able to use Brave's TOR
> private window for looking up stuff that is just
> nobody else's business, such as medical things or
> things that can be easily misunderstood by law
> enforcement, such as the common name for the
> polymer polyvinyl carboxy. (I would not look
> it up, except on TOR).
I was under the impression that privacy based anonymising browsers
shouldn't use your general DNS servers (because that leaks
information). They should find some anonymous servers when they start
up, and use them.
Look at Google, it's goal is databasing everything. Tie a bunch of
queries to the same IP, roll it all together, it doesn't matter what
privacy options you attempt, which different browsers you use, or if
you remove cookies. If you don't want some queries in that database,
don't use Google for them. They continually find ways to work around
any things we do to stop them doing that.
I'm sick of being asked to set a cookie setting the fact that I don't
want cookies. FFS! If I completely switch off cookies in my browser,
it's a dead loop of an unanswerable question, rather than not being
asked the question.
It's been quite some time since I accidentally ended up at a porn site,
some bright spark decided a great way to hook people into their site
was to have some pages about fixing common problems your printer. You
google that innocent thing, as will a huge number of people, and ended
up at a page with porn banners. Google's got better at derating those
kinds of baiting page results these days.
> So I was curious as to what DNS was looking up what.
Switch on logging in your nameserver, do "tail -f" on the log file, or
figure out how rndc works, watch some queries go through. Try some in
your normal browser, try some in your privacy browser.
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Re: what is my dns?
On Tue, 2023-03-28 at 13:47 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > the ones that answered the queries that your name > server asked of it The general process for asking a real domain server for a domain name like www.example.com is that it'd consult its records (*) to find a root server, ask one of the various root servers who deals with .com, then it'd ask one of the .com servers who has the records for example.com, then it'd query it, for whatever subdomain you wanted (www.example.com). i.e. It reads the domain name backwards from how you do. . .com example.com www.example.com * (Your name server will have these as part of its install, and it will update them, or yum/dnf will with rpm updates.) It's a wee bit more convoluted than that, it goes a bit like this: who holds the records for . that's held by what's the IP address for that connect to that who holds the record for that's held by what's the IP... There's a reason why the queries might go along the line of who holds the records for example.com? They're held by nameserver.example.net, rather than being directly told they're being held at 93.184.216.34. It allows a consistent nameserver name to be used for the records, but the IP addresses may be variable. If you look in your own domain records, it'll will give a nameserver for your domain as a domain-NAME-address, further down will be a record giving a numerical-IP-address for that domain-NAME-address. I've had a few people go, "no, it doesn't work that way." Yes, it does, look in the files for a nameserver! There aren't a great number of steps for finding out domain name records, it's reasonably straightforward, other than a couple of things off the top of my head: If you're using forwarders, they're an extra step. And if a domain uses glue records, that's another step. If you have forwarders for certain domains, they'll follow a different sequence. Likewise, if you forward all queries. Your server will ask the forwarder to do that work. Essentially, your server will only answer some queries (the ones without any forwarders). Glue records: The public records may say that a domain is handled by a big hosting server, everyone queries it. It has a record that redirects them to some other host that actually handles them. I always forget what advantage that's supposed to have. I do know of the problems they can cause, where someone foollishly sets things up so the records are held somewhere that isn't publicly accessible. Some domains will have their records hosted by several name servers (think of Google having 4 domain servers, to spread the load around). Queries will randomly get responded to by one of them. dig example.com will tell you the records for that domain (the answer section) the nameserver that holds those records (the authority section) [the one that provided the answers] and the one that directly answered you (the query section) [and that'll be your server] You can think of the last two as passing a note to you across the room. It's generally all you need to know, until you're trying to track down where something is going wrong. Such as sometimes you get an answer, sometimes you don't. Is a server failing? Are four backup servers handling the queries, and one of them is bad. The dig tool will allow you to directly query individual servers, so you can trace such things. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
