Re: VMware woes
On 12/01/2024 18.34, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/12/24 18:00, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: On 12/01/2024 17.58, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: Yes, the popup explicitly says that the 6.6.9 headers are needed (as I'm running kernel-6.6.9). Here's a screenshot of the popup: <http://tinyurl.com/VMwarePop>. (I don't know how to make hot links. :-)) -- Sherman Ha! To my surprise, the link text became a hot link. I lucked out. Nice list feature! Nothing to do with the list. That's your email client converting it. Ok, thanks. That would be Thunderbird 115.6.0. E-mail is, like so many things, a mystery to me. :-) -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VMware woes
On 12/01/2024 17.58, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: On 11/01/2024 13.48, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 03:36:32PM -0800, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: Hello all. Does anyone have VMware Workstation Pro 17.5.0 running with any of the later 6.6.X kernels? I'm having a hard time getting it to run with a Fedora 38 installation. I'm fully updated as of 2 days ago, including the 6.6.9 kernel. When I try to start Workstation directly after VMware installation I get a popup saying that the kernel-headers package for kernel-6.6.9 is missing and so it can't build some modules. the problem is that the kernel-headers package for 6.6.9 is missing from Updates. The latest package is for 6.6.3. Does the popup actually say that you need a newer kernel-headers package? Because we should provide feedback to VMWare that what they're really asking for is a kernel-devel package for the running kernel. The kernel-headers package is just for compiling userspace programs, and only is updated when there's an API change that affects userspace. I suspect that the "headers" part is coming from the Debian/Ubuntu world, because I think their kernel source is in a linux-headers package. Yes, the popup explicitly says that the 6.6.9 headers are needed (as I'm running kernel-6.6.9). Here's a screenshot of the popup: <http://tinyurl.com/VMwarePop>. (I don't know how to make hot links. :-)) -- Sherman Ha! To my surprise, the link text became a hot link. I lucked out. Nice list feature! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VMware woes
On 11/01/2024 13.48, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 03:36:32PM -0800, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: Hello all. Does anyone have VMware Workstation Pro 17.5.0 running with any of the later 6.6.X kernels? I'm having a hard time getting it to run with a Fedora 38 installation. I'm fully updated as of 2 days ago, including the 6.6.9 kernel. When I try to start Workstation directly after VMware installation I get a popup saying that the kernel-headers package for kernel-6.6.9 is missing and so it can't build some modules. the problem is that the kernel-headers package for 6.6.9 is missing from Updates. The latest package is for 6.6.3. Does the popup actually say that you need a newer kernel-headers package? Because we should provide feedback to VMWare that what they're really asking for is a kernel-devel package for the running kernel. The kernel-headers package is just for compiling userspace programs, and only is updated when there's an API change that affects userspace. I suspect that the "headers" part is coming from the Debian/Ubuntu world, because I think their kernel source is in a linux-headers package. Yes, the popup explicitly says that the 6.6.9 headers are needed (as I'm running kernel-6.6.9). Here's a screenshot of the popup: <http://tinyurl.com/VMwarePop>. (I don't know how to make hot links. :-)) -- Sherman -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Q about Fedora Users list behaviour
On 10/01/2024 20.08, Tim via users wrote: Sherman Grunewagen: When I send a message to the list, the "From" field has my name and e-mail addr. But when it appears on the list, it's been magically changed to "fedora users". Some posters have their name preserved in the From: field. Is there a list setting that controls this? Samuel Sieb: It has to do with your email provider. Certain ones cause problems if your actual email address shows up as the sender. An anti-spam technique which, on the face of it sounds a good idea, yet broke so many things. Only your own SMTP server ought to be able to send mail using your address. Any other SMTP server attempting to do so would be assumed to be a spammer, so that is disallowed. To do that effectively, all ISPs should be getting you to sign in to its SMTP server as you post through it (so you're a verified poster). And your email address' domain name should have a record saying its the authorised poster (disallowing others to pretend to be you, or other users of that domain). Although that mayn't stop someone on the same ISP as you forging your address, it'd really depend on your ISP making you sign in to send, and it checking the address you post with against that sign-in. However, most mailing lists behave this way: The message is from you, and is forwarded that way, coming through them. Which is logical, but this runs afoul of this simplistic antispam system. The simple solution is to rewrite the sender's email address to match the list's. Oddly, I'm posting through Yahoo and signing in to do so, yet it still does it. Maybe the list has had enough problems with posting to Yahoo that they do that for all Yahoo addresses. I don't actually mind this. I don't want email from people I don't know. Many years of experience on mailing lists has shown that some people behave very differently if they mail you privately. Plus not having your address in the public cuts down on spam. Though you could put your address in your signature if you want to. Thanks Samuel, Tim, for the explanations. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Q about Fedora Users list behaviour
When I send a message to the list, the "From" field has my name and e-mail addr. But when it appears on the list, it's been magically changed to "fedora users". Some posters have their name preserved in the From: field. Is there a list setting that controls this? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VMware woes
On 10/01/2024 16.06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/10/24 15:36, Sherman Grunewagen via users wrote: Does anyone have VMware Workstation Pro 17.5.0 running with any of the later 6.6.X kernels? I'm having a hard time getting it to run with a Fedora 38 installation. I'm fully updated as of 2 days ago, including the 6.6.9 kernel. When I try to start Workstation directly after VMware installation I get a popup saying that the kernel-headers package for kernel-6.6.9 is missing and so it can't build some modules. the problem is that the kernel-headers package for 6.6.9 is missing from Updates. The latest package is for 6.6.3. That sounds like a broken build system. The kernel-headers package doesn't get updated for every kernel if they haven't changed. Have you tried using qemu/kvm instead? -- I haven't. I've been living in a certain closed country for the past several years and sadly haven't been able to update either my Fedora system or my Linux "praxis". I'm very rusty. Having returned to America, I did a fresh install of Fedora 38 from Fedora 30 (don't laugh :-)) on which VMware 15 worked flawlessly. Tweaking the system to get things the way I ran F30 has taken all my meagre brain cycles. :-) Lots has changed since F30! Now I'm trying to get the newest VMware to work. Changing to qemu/kvm (I barely know what they are) seems daunting, especially as I need for the Windows 7 guest to run as it did under VMware. I no longer have the installation disks for Windows or Office 2013 (both "pro" editions), nor the mathematics macros I installed in PowerPoint. So re-installation isn't possible. Staying with VMware seems the right road for now. -- Sherman -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VMware woes
Thanks very much! I still have 6.6.7 on the machine. I'll try booting on that kernel and see if I can get VMware to work. On 10/01/2024 15.45, GMX wrote: Sorry to hear. The kernel-headers are mandatory, so you will have to wait for them or use another distribution which have them availlable. Thanks to mkubecek , VM Workstation is running well with all kernels 6.6 and 6.7. Ursprüngliche Nachricht *Van*: Sherman Grunewagen via users mailto:sherman%20grunewagen%20via%20users%20%3cus...@lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>> *Antwoord-naar*: Community support for Fedora users mailto:community%20support%20for%20fedora%20users%20%3cus...@lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>> *Aan*: fedora users mailto:fedora%20users%20%3cus...@lists.fedoraproject.org%3e>> *Cc*: Sherman Grunewagen mailto:sherman%20grunewagen%20%3csugarwa...@gmx.com%3e>> *Onderwerp*: VMware woes *Datum*: 11.01.2024 00:36:32 Hello all. Does anyone have VMware Workstation Pro 17.5.0 running with any of the later 6.6.X kernels? I'm having a hard time getting it to run with a Fedora 38 installation. I'm fully updated as of 2 days ago, including the 6.6.9 kernel. When I try to start Workstation directly after VMware installation I get a popup saying that the kernel-headers package for kernel-6.6.9 is missing and so it can't build some modules. the problem is that the kernel-headers package for 6.6.9 is missing from Updates. The latest package is for 6.6.3. I'm guessing those modules are vmmon and vmnet, which usually have to be rebuilt for new kernels and so I also tried build the modules following the instructions here: https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/blob/workstation-17.5.0/INSTALL <https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/blob/workstation-17.5.0/INSTALL> but it failed also and I don't know how to debug the problems. Would appreciate any help! -- Sherman -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org> Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue <https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue> -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
VMware woes
Hello all. Does anyone have VMware Workstation Pro 17.5.0 running with any of the later 6.6.X kernels? I'm having a hard time getting it to run with a Fedora 38 installation. I'm fully updated as of 2 days ago, including the 6.6.9 kernel. When I try to start Workstation directly after VMware installation I get a popup saying that the kernel-headers package for kernel-6.6.9 is missing and so it can't build some modules. the problem is that the kernel-headers package for 6.6.9 is missing from Updates. The latest package is for 6.6.3. I'm guessing those modules are vmmon and vmnet, which usually have to be rebuilt for new kernels and so I also tried build the modules following the instructions here: https://github.com/mkubecek/vmware-host-modules/blob/workstation-17.5.0/INSTALL but it failed also and I don't know how to debug the problems. Would appreciate any help! -- Sherman -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
On 08/04/2017 05:13 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: That was the problem! Nice catch. I'm clueless as to how previous kmod-nvidia modules have built and run. And I don't understand why, when running akmods as root, the "make" process is unable to "see" inside /usr/local/include (nor why it needs to, but that's a different question). But turning on the "other" permissions did the trick! I would not have guessed it. Well, akmods runs as root, but the script that actually builds the package, akmodsbuild, runs as a normal user. You should never build software as root :) Glad that was it! Thanks again, Richard. Your comment about akmodbuild does make me scratch my head because it raises the question (again) of how the previous three builds worked. My /usr/local/include permissions have not changed in years. (When I install a new Fedora I always overwrite /usr/local with my existing one, keeping all permissions and ownerships the same. All I can suppose is that the update to the gcc suite now causes the compiler to take a look in /usr/local/include whereas before it didn't, or if it did and couldn't, it went on gracefully. If my guess is correct, this seems like a bug since there's nothing needed in /usr/local/include. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver (SOLVED!)
Forgot the "SOLVED!" in the Subject line. On 08/03/2017 06:42 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: On 08/03/2017 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: Not that anything useful/needed should be in /usr/local/include but what are the permissions on it? [root@new_pons ~]# ls -l /usr/local | fgrep include drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Aug 3 09:15 include Ok, there is a problem but I don't know if it's THE problem. Everyone should have read and execute permissions otherwise a normal user won't be able to access the directory (and you should never build software as root!) I've included all the directories as you should check the others as well: $ ll /usr/local total 40 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Aug 1 17:45 bin drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 etc drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 games drwxr-xr-x. 6 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 include drwxr-xr-x. 7 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 lib drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 lib64 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 libexec drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 sbin drwxr-xr-x. 12 root root 4096 Aug 1 17:45 share drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 src A "chmod 0755 /usr/local/include" should fix that particular error, but like I said, there's no telling if that's the underlying problem. That was the problem! Nice catch. I'm clueless as to how previous kmod-nvidia modules have built and run. And I don't understand why, when running akmods as root, the "make" process is unable to "see" inside /usr/local/include (nor why it needs to, but that's a different question). But turning on the "other" permissions did the trick! I would not have guessed it. -Sherman P.S. I just checked and gcc and its kin were updated yesterday when this problem began. Perhaps there's some new permissions demotion going on in the compiler that wasn't there before. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
On 08/03/2017 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: Not that anything useful/needed should be in /usr/local/include but what are the permissions on it? [root@new_pons ~]# ls -l /usr/local | fgrep include drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Aug 3 09:15 include Ok, there is a problem but I don't know if it's THE problem. Everyone should have read and execute permissions otherwise a normal user won't be able to access the directory (and you should never build software as root!) I've included all the directories as you should check the others as well: $ ll /usr/local total 40 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Aug 1 17:45 bin drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 etc drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 games drwxr-xr-x. 6 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 include drwxr-xr-x. 7 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 lib drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 lib64 drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 libexec drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 18 07:27 sbin drwxr-xr-x. 12 root root 4096 Aug 1 17:45 share drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 4096 Feb 3 2016 src A "chmod 0755 /usr/local/include" should fix that particular error, but like I said, there's no telling if that's the underlying problem. That was the problem! Nice catch. I'm clueless as to how previous kmod-nvidia modules have built and run. And I don't understand why, when running akmods as root, the "make" process is unable to "see" inside /usr/local/include (nor why it needs to, but that's a different question). But turning on the "other" permissions did the trick! I would not have guessed it. -Sherman P.S. I just checked and gcc and its kin were updated yesterday when this problem began. Perhaps there's some new permissions demotion going on in the compiler that wasn't there before. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
On 08/03/2017 10:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Ok, for the same nvidia module and kernel version for me... Dependencies resolved. Package Arch Version RepositorySize Installing: kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 x86_64 2:375.66-3.fc25 @commandline 6.1 M Transaction Summary Install 1 Package Total size: 6.1 M Installed size: 18 M Downloading Packages: Running transaction check Waiting for process with pid 13941 to finish. Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded. Running transaction Installing : kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-2:375.66-3.fc25.x86_6 1/1 Verifying : kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-2:375.66-3.fc25.x86_6 1/1 Installed: kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64.x86_64 2:375.66-3.fc25 Is this from the akmods log or did you install the kmod-nvidia module manually with dnf from the rpmfusion repo (if that's even possible these days)? No errors during install of the package or during the build. There must be something funky in your environment... Not that anything useful/needed should be in /usr/local/include but what are the permissions on it? [root@new_pons ~]# ls -l /usr/local | fgrep include drwxr-x--- 3 root root 4096 Aug 3 09:15 include The reason it has today's date on it was that I created and deleted a dummy file in it just to see if anything funky was going on. I'm completely stumped. Again, thanks so much for helping with this. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
On 08/03/2017 08:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com <mailto:sugarwa...@gmx.com>> wrote: On 08/03/2017 05:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com <mailto:sugarwa...@gmx.com> <mailto:sugarwa...@gmx.com <mailto:sugarwa...@gmx.com>>> wrote: After updating my F25 installation (which included installing kernel-10-11-12-200) I can no longer boot X (w/ startx). rpm -qa | fgrep kmod-nvidia-4.11.12 returns kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64 so the kernel module gets built and installed. But I see Aug 2 21:41:11 pons kernel: nvidia: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0) in /var/log/messages which I've not seen before. I removed the module with dnf and rebuilt it with akmods (which again produced the "unknown symbol" message, and X still won't boot. Is anyone else having this problem? Suggestions for a fix? Are you using akmods? Yes. I followed the rpmfusion framework instructions when I installed F25 and all has worked till now. This typically occurs due to an API change in the kernel happens from time to time and it may take nvidia a little while to fix. Should I expect everyone else using the nvidia / rpmfusion to be having the same problem? If so, I'm surprised to see no complaints other than mine. I searched the web but there was nothing recent with the "unknown symbol (err 0)" error. Well, I mention that because that's the most typical reason the akmod build fails but it looks like yours succeeded. I doubt this is the reason but a google search showed the same error when a kernel module was compiled with a different version of GCC than the kernel itself but that seems unlikely... Try booting the previous kernel and see if that works. It does. I'm running on it now. If the API has changed, shouldn't I expect all later kernels (including F26) to cause the nvidia driver to fail to load? Also, I wonder why it built successfully. (Not questioning you so much as trying to understand.) To check to see if it was a transient error, you could try removing the kmod-nvidia package from /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/ and rerunning akmods. I was never able to figure out the problem but there was a period where the akmods run would complete but the installed package wasn't quite right and rebuilding the kmod fixed it... Thanks for your continuing help, Richard! Is what I did at the start (see OP) equivalent? I used dnf to remove kmod-nvidia and then rebuilt by calling akmods from the commandline. Anyway I'll try what you suggest and report back in a sec ... tick, tick. Ok. Removing the akmod-nvidia with dnf _does_not_ remove the rpm and log in /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/. So I did the "dnf erase", removed the entries for the 10.11.12 kernel version in /var/cache/akmods/nvidia/, and rebuilt with "akmods". This appears at the bottome of the log after a "successful" build: Installing: kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 x86_64 2:375.66-3.fc25 @commandline 6.1 M Transaction Summary Install 1 Package Total size: 6.1 M Installed size: 18 M Downloading Packages: Running transaction check Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded. Running transaction Installing : kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-2:375.66-3.fc25.x86_6 1/1 depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia-modeset.ko needs unknown symbol mcount depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia-drm.ko needs unknown symbol mcount depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia-uvm.ko needs unknown symbol mcount depmod: WARNING: /lib/modules/4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko needs unknown symbol mcount Verifying : kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-2:375.66-3.fc25.x86_6 1/1 Installed: kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64.x86_64 2:375.66-3.fc25 Complete! 2017/08/03 09:13:21 akmods: Successful. - And, of course, X won't boot. Looking for errors in the build log, I found this mystery: 2017/08/03 09:13:14 akmodsbuild: cc1: error: /usr/local/include: Permission denied 2017/08/03 09:13:14 akmodsbuild: cc1: error: /usr/local/include: Permission denied 2017/08/03 09:13:14 akmodsbuild: ./scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 31: printf: #: invalid number 2017/08/03 09:13:14 akmodsbuild: ./scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 31: printf: #: invalid number 2017/08/03 09:13:14 akmodsbuild: /bin/sh: line 0: [: too many arguments Except for these lines, this log and those for the other
Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
On 08/03/2017 05:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com <mailto:sugarwa...@gmx.com>> wrote: After updating my F25 installation (which included installing kernel-10-11-12-200) I can no longer boot X (w/ startx). rpm -qa | fgrep kmod-nvidia-4.11.12 returns kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64 so the kernel module gets built and installed. But I see Aug 2 21:41:11 pons kernel: nvidia: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0) in /var/log/messages which I've not seen before. I removed the module with dnf and rebuilt it with akmods (which again produced the "unknown symbol" message, and X still won't boot. Is anyone else having this problem? Suggestions for a fix? Are you using akmods? Yes. I followed the rpmfusion framework instructions when I installed F25 and all has worked till now. This typically occurs due to an API change in the kernel happens from time to time and it may take nvidia a little while to fix. Should I expect everyone else using the nvidia / rpmfusion to be having the same problem? If so, I'm surprised to see no complaints other than mine. I searched the web but there was nothing recent with the "unknown symbol (err 0)" error. Try booting the previous kernel and see if that works. It does. I'm running on it now. If the API has changed, shouldn't I expect all later kernels (including F26) to cause the nvidia driver to fail to load? Also, I wonder why it built successfully. (Not questioning you so much as trying to understand.) Thanks. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver
After updating my F25 installation (which included installing kernel-10-11-12-200) I can no longer boot X (w/ startx). rpm -qa | fgrep kmod-nvidia-4.11.12 returns kmod-nvidia-4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64-375.66-3.fc25.x86_64 so the kernel module gets built and installed. But I see Aug 2 21:41:11 pons kernel: nvidia: Unknown symbol mcount (err 0) in /var/log/messages which I've not seen before. I removed the module with dnf and rebuilt it with akmods (which again produced the "unknown symbol" message, and X still won't boot. Is anyone else having this problem? Suggestions for a fix? -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[F25] USB interference with wifi (was: getting an old kernel-header rpm)
On 07/24/2017 06:28 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/24/2017 06:17 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Anyway, I discovered that the 4.11.8 kernel does not fix my wifi problems. It turns out that there is a nasty interference issue between the wifi and the outboard USB disk docking station. I've had it off since booting 4.11.8. Today I turned it on while uploading files to another computer and my wifi locked up same as before. When I had all the problems earlier under 4.11.10, the USB disk was also running. Have no idea how to fix this! Not clear if the disk dock is part of a full-up docking station. It's a StarTech single disk dock: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055PL2YI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1 If it isn't, I'd try using a different USB port for the disk. USB port makes no difference. Second, try to use shielded USB cables. Cheap USB cables--especially for things like disks--are a bad idea. Don't have any. Will have to order one. Third, if you have an external wifi antenna, try changing its orientation or get an extension cable (they are available) and move the antenna away from the disk. No external wifi. If the disk is part of an integrated docking station, then I'd contact the manufacturer and see if it's a) defective; or b) if this is a known problem and they have a solution. I think this is a known problem. After a lot of searching, found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1615774 See remarks in Post #9, just under the "messages" entries. The difference is that my errors look like this: https://ufile.io/0p7t1 After that my wifi runs abysmally slowly and eventually locks up. I'll see many of these right after one another. I'm seeing lots of others on the web getting similar messages in their logs. Seems to be related to both the kernel and the iwlwifi firmware. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm
On 07/22/2017 11:24 AM, stan wrote: On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:11:04 -0700 Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200, dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages. Of course I said "no". If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all those other packages? (I've never downgraded anything.) Removing is a lot different than downgrading. As Ed said, there is only one kernel-headers package on the system, so removing it wants to remove anything which depends on it. Downgrading is not going to remove the dependency, it is going to change the version of it. So, it should ignore all those dependencies because they aren't going to be affected. When I just tried the command on my system, dnf just wanted to grab the lower version of the headers. I said 'no' to the question of whether I wanted to continue, but I presume it would have just downloaded the package and replaced the existing package. You can try it easily. Just type the downgrade command, and if the transaction wants to still remove all those dependent packages, answer 'no' to the continue question, and post your experience here. Yes, I did some reading after trying Ed's suggestion and discovered that 1) one needs to be in the directory with the downgrade rpm (if it's not available in the Fedora repos, and 2) use "downgrade" not "erase as the dnf directive. Thanks so much to both you and Ed for your help! -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm
On 07/21/2017 10:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/22/17 13:11, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700 Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ? Why? Long story. Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10. With 4.11.8 it is not. But since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10. Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers! Thus my question. Or is there a better way? You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then downgrade using dnf, dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370 I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200, dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages. Of course I said "no". If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all those other packages? (I've never downgraded anything.) There will be only one kernel-headers package on your system and is normally updated each time the kernel gets updated. So, if you've downloaded the 4.11.8 kernel-headers you should just be able to do dnf erase kernel-headers followed by dnf install ./kernel-headers-whatever.rpm Thanks Ed. (Sorry for the tardy reply.) When I do "dnf erase kernel-headers" it says it wants to remove 137 packages even though I've cd'd to /tmp in which sits kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64.rpm. Perhaps you meant "dnf downgrade kernel-headers"? Anyway, I discovered that the 4.11.8 kernel does not fix my wifi problems. It turns out that there is a nasty interference issue between the wifi and the outboard USB disk docking station. I've had it off since booting 4.11.8. Today I turned it on while uploading files to another computer and my wifi locked up same as before. When I had all the problems earlier under 4.11.10, the USB disk was also running. Have no idea how to fix this! -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm
On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700 Sherman Grunewagen <sugarwa...@gmx.com> wrote: Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ? Why? Long story. Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10. With 4.11.8 it is not. But since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10. Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers! Thus my question. Or is there a better way? You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then downgrade using dnf, dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370 I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200, dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages. Of course I said "no". If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all those other packages? (I've never downgraded anything.) -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: What is causing these hardware errors?
On 07/21/2017 06:27 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 07/21/2017 06:08 AM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: I am getting this block of messages put into /var/log/messages every few minutes (or seconds) since I received this laptop and installed F25. The install is updated as of two days ago. Macine is a new Dell Precision 7520. Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons kernel: mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: Family 6 Model 9e CPU: only decoding architectural errors Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCE 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: CPU 2 BANK 0 TSC 2dce95564215 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: TIME 1500630533 Fri Jul 21 02:48:53 2017 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCG status: Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCi status: Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Error overflow Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Corrected error Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Error enabled Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCA: Internal parity error Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: STATUS d0c10005 MCGSTATUS 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCGCAP c0a APICID 4 SOCKETID 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 158 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: warning: 24 bytes ignored in each record Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: consider an update Jul 21 02:48:54 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: abrt-dump-journal-oops: Found oopses: 1 Jul 21 02:48:54 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: abrt-dump-journal-oops: Creating problem directories Jul 21 02:48:55 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt This looks to be a CPU cache memory error that is correctable. I have a quad-core with one core giving correctable cache errors. Turning the core off reduces my net performance significantly so instead I turned off MCE errors (besides, they were crapping all over my xterms). Your call as to whether your work is critical enough to replace the CPU. Good excuse to tell your SO you have to upgrade ;D Mike Wright Thanks. This is a brand new Dell machine (1 week old). Looking around on the web, I see many others with the issue. One person reported that Dell was infuriatingly no help (surprise!), claiming these are "false positive" errors. I'm moving to China in 3 weeks and have little time to pursue this with Dell. But I want to avoid my laptop dying in China, so I'm really not sure what to do. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
What is causing these hardware errors?
I am getting this block of messages put into /var/log/messages every few minutes (or seconds) since I received this laptop and installed F25. The install is updated as of two days ago. Macine is a new Dell Precision 7520. What does this mean? Do I have a defective CPU? -Sherman Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons kernel: mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: Family 6 Model 9e CPU: only decoding architectural errors Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Hardware event. This is not a software error. Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCE 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: CPU 2 BANK 0 TSC 2dce95564215 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: TIME 1500630533 Fri Jul 21 02:48:53 2017 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCG status: Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCi status: Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Error overflow Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Corrected error Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: Error enabled Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCA: Internal parity error Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: STATUS d0c10005 MCGSTATUS 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: MCGCAP c0a APICID 4 SOCKETID 0 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: CPUID Vendor Intel Family 6 Model 158 Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: warning: 24 bytes ignored in each record Jul 21 02:48:53 new_pons mcelog[953]: mcelog: consider an update Jul 21 02:48:54 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: abrt-dump-journal-oops: Found oopses: 1 Jul 21 02:48:54 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: abrt-dump-journal-oops: Creating problem directories Jul 21 02:48:55 new_pons abrt-dump-journal-oops[1020]: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm
Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ? Why? Long story. Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10. With 4.11.8 it is not. But since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10. Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers! Thus my question. Or is there a better way? -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: [F25] help: semi-broken wifi on new Dell laptop
On 07/20/2017 12:07 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Oh yes: The machine was fully updated as of early yesterday (19th Jul) and was running vmlinuz-4.11.9-200.fc25.x86_64 at the time of the iwlwifi breakdown when the messages I posted were generated. Same thing was happening under vmlinuz-4.11.10-200.fc25.x86_64 -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[F25] help: semi-broken wifi on new Dell laptop
I just finished configuring F25 on a new Dell precision 7520 (essentially same as 7510) with Samsung's PM961 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD "disk". Wonderously fast! Boots in like 2 seconds. KDE comes up in 5. HOWEVER: In the boot messages (/var/log/messages) I see these lines: kernel: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux ... kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-8265-28.ucode failed with error -2 ... kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: capa flags index 3 larger than supported by driver kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: loaded firmware version 27.455470.0 op_mode iwlmvm ... kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 8265, REV=0x230 kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0 wlp2s0: renamed from wlan0 ... There's a few more iwlwifi related messages when NetworkManager comes up. No errors. Things appear to work fine. Then sometime later (could be minutes or hours, in the middle of a large download, the transfer rate goes to nearly 0 and a boatload of messages like this dump into /var/log/messages: kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x8200. kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR values: kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: (2nd byte of CSR_INT_COALESCING is CSR_INT_PERIODIC_REG) kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0:CSR_HW_IF_CONFIG_REG: 0X00489000 kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR_INT_COALESCING: 0X0040 kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR_INT: 0X kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0:CSR_INT_MASK: 0X kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR_FH_INT_STATUS: 0X kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR_GPIO_IN: 0X0010 kernel: iwlwifi :02:00.0: CSR_RESET: 0X ... After this, the "Microcode SW ..." message appear every few seconds or minutes with the boatload of CSR values. I have to reboot to get things right. Then it (intermittently) happens again on some future download. Is this a hardware bug that I'll be stuck with forever? If so, I have only a short time to return the Dell before "it's mine". Your help will be greatly appreciated! By the way: "lspci | fgrep -i wireless" returns 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8265 / 8275 (rev 78) -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora on a Dell Precision 7520?
On 07/15/2017 07:38 AM, Tim wrote: On 15/7/2017 11:29 pm, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: To be clear, my issue is with the new M.2 PCIe SSD "drive" itself which I ordered from amazon. It arrives today and I'm not certain it will work. I've not been able to confirm it does or doesn't, and Dell support has been no help. (I've never used SSD before, let alone PCIe SSD) It's the Samsung PM961 1TB card, by the way, if anyone knows about this stuff. I haven't used one either, but my friends do (one using Ubuntu, the other using Windows, neither with any special computing skills). My understanding is that they're supposed to be a drop-in hard drive replacement. Your OS should work with them in the same way. If they need any special parameters I'm unaware of them, and I would hope that if you do a fresh install onto one of them that the installer would do what it needs to do. If you install a SSD by itself, you're free to experiment on it. Your other, unplugged, drive won't be disturbed by such testing. Thanks Tim. What "special parameters" might there be? I've spent a few days installing F25 and all my special applications (vmware, scilab, scribus 2.5.3, ) on an HDD on a different laptop, learning F25 along the way (coming from F21). Ideally, I'd like to format the SSD in my usual peculiar way (a boot partition and a big volume group), pre-create the various lv's w/in the VG, plug in my existing F25 external, and copy my configured system into those fresh SSD partitions. Then I hand-craft a grub2 from the previous one and write a bootloader onto the front of the drive. This has always worked in the past. Can I expect it to work with this PCIe SSD drive? I've no experience with SSD. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora on a Dell Precision 7520?
On 07/13/2017 08:13 PM, Tim wrote: On 14/7/2017 3:54 am, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: I want to use Ubuntu first because the machine is certified from Dell to work with it as that's what it shipped with. If the SSD PCIe drive I'm putting in doesn't work, I'll only have that (and the copy process) as factors w/o complicating things with Fedora 26 (which I didn't realise was even out. So, boot up with the supplied disc, check things work, pull out that disc, and store it somewhere (or leave it bolted-in but unplugged) for that moment you need to deal with them. Put in your new disc, install what you want, use it by itself. If dual booting is not your thing, and you only want the other drive for that one time you might have to deal with your supplier, it's easier to completely remove the original disc from your normal operating condition. Thanks, everyone, for your sage advice. To be clear, my issue is with the new M.2 PCIe SSD "drive" itself which I ordered from amazon. It arrives today and I'm not certain it will work. I've not been able to confirm it does or doesn't, and Dell support has been no help. (I've never used SSD before, let alone PCIe SSD) It's the Samsung PM961 1TB card, by the way, if anyone knows about this stuff. Anticipating problems, _that's_ why I thought I should start with the officially sanctioned Ubuntu before finally installing Fedora. (I'll start with 25 and let 26 settle a bit. I'm in the middle of moving to China and don't have time to futz with 26 yet. I just last week installed 25 on my current (dying) laptop and am getting used to it. I've been using 21 KDE for a long time and 25 is very different.) Anyway, I'm taking everyone's suggestion and will use my F25 live usb to first try the system after I take out the rotary disk and put in the PCIe drive. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora on a Dell Precision 7520?
On 07/12/2017 05:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/12/2017 05:13 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: On 07/11/2017 12:34 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 07/11/2017 11:59 AM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Two questions: (1) Is anyone here running a late version of Fedora on the new Dell Precision 7520 (or 5520)? I'm running Fedora 25 on a Precision 5520. ... I'm thinking about pulling the conventional drive out and putting it in a USB disk dock I have. Then with the M.2 SSD installed, booting off a live CD USB as you suggested. Then I'd use "rsync" (if the live CD has it!) to copy the Ubuntu system to a small partition I would make on the M.2. Does that sound reasonable? The only part I'm not sure about is getting the machine to boot off the M.2 SSD. I'm a total novice with grub2. I'd just put your SSD in, download a copy of F26 Live (why bother with F25?) in whatever spin you want (Xfce, Gnome, KDE, whatever), burn it to a DVD or put it on a thumbdrive and boot your system with that and test it. If everything works OK, then just install F26 to the SSD using the "Install to disk" option on the Live media. There's absolutely no reason to boot Ubuntu at all. I want to use Ubuntu first because the machine is certified from Dell to work with it as that's what it shipped with. If the SSD PCIe drive I'm putting in doesn't work, I'll only have that (and the copy process) as factors w/o complicating things with Fedora 26 (which I didn't realise was even out. :-) -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora on a Dell Precision 7520?
On 07/11/2017 12:34 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 07/11/2017 11:59 AM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Two questions: (1) Is anyone here running a late version of Fedora on the new Dell Precision 7520 (or 5520)? I'm running Fedora 25 on a Precision 5520. I did get the Core i5 CPU and the 1080p screen, because I didn't want to mess with NVIDIA drivers and/or Optimus. Thanks Ian! I will get the i7 with a 1080p screen, but I _did_ order the Nvidia card. Dell told me that with Ubuntu loaded, they've set the Bios to lock onto the Nvidia card all the time, so Optimus should not be an issue. Also, I've never had problems using the nvidia driver via "akmods" and "akmod-nvidia" from rpmfusion. Hope I don't have to eat my words. (2) I ordered the 7520 with a cheap disk drive. It will come with Ubuntu installed. I intend to replace the drive with a M.2 PCIe 1TB SSD card (Samsung PM961). How do I do a "disk copy" to the SDD so that the machine will boot Ubuntu from it? (Once I confirm things are working, I will blow away Ubuntu and install F25 if the answer to (1) is not negative. The easiest way will be to boot from a "live CD" on a USB thumdrive and copy the disk contents (or significant parts thereof) to a USB SDD or over the network. Sorry, I'm not understanding. What's the USB SSD doing? The machine comes with Ubuntu installed on a 1TB conventional disk. I want to do something like a "disk copy" to the M.2 PCIe 1TB SSD which I've ordered from Amazon. I suppose it must be installed in the machine to do this. I'm thinking about pulling the conventional drive out and putting it in a USB disk dock I have. Then with the M.2 SSD installed, booting off a live CD USB as you suggested. Then I'd use "rsync" (if the live CD has it!) to copy the Ubuntu system to a small partition I would make on the M.2. Does that sound reasonable? The only part I'm not sure about is getting the machine to boot off the M.2 SSD. I'm a total novice with grub2. -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora on a Dell Precision 7520?
Two questions: (1) Is anyone here running a late version of Fedora on the new Dell Precision 7520 (or 5520)? (2) I ordered the 7520 with a cheap disk drive. It will come with Ubuntu installed. I intend to replace the drive with a M.2 PCIe 1TB SSD card (Samsung PM961). How do I do a "disk copy" to the SDD so that the machine will boot Ubuntu from it? (Once I confirm things are working, I will blow away Ubuntu and install F25 if the answer to (1) is not negative. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: (PARTLY SOLVED) [F25] Emacs key binding in KDE
On 07/05/2017 11:41 AM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Just moved from F21 to F25 and many things are not working as expected (which is to be expected!) One is the way to get most applications (like Firefox, and KDE itself, to honour basic emacs key bindings for cursor motions. In F21 and prior I had a little file in my home dir called ".gtkrc-2.0" which contained this magic line: gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" This no longer works. Would one of you kind souls share the magic incantation for F25? Thanks! -Sherman To all of you (Stan, Oleg, Samuel) who replied with helpful comments, thanks! -- Stan asked: Are you sure this was the actual reason it was working? Answer: I'm certain. I rebooted F21, commented out the above line from ~/.gtkrc-2.0, and lost the functionality w/in KDE (things like text input boxes, e.g. Alt-F2.) as well as Firefox. Uncommenting and rebooting X brought it back. I read all the links. The one form Oleg, http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/gtk3-emacs-key-theme.html gives a partial solution in that now Firefox behaves as desired. The author also describes, to a tee, us who have the emacs keystrokes ingrained in our fingers. :-) Samuel, I couldn't apply your suggestion about 'gnome-tweek-tool' as I don't have it or gnome on my KDE system. Not sure how it would help in my case. Finally I found this bug report, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/25838 which I hoped would solve the rest of the issue. But since it's for a NixOS system, it didn't. So I'm still w/o the emacs bindings w/in KDE (sans Firefox). Remapping keys through global keyboard shortcuts doesn't seem the right solution. When I hit, say, Ctrl-k outside an input box,I want the normal KDE or application behaviour to apply. But inside an input box, I want the Emacs behaviour (kill rest of line). --Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
[F25] Emacs key binding in KDE
Just moved from F21 to F25 and many things are not working as expected (which is to be expected!) One is the way to get most applications (like Firefox, and KDE itself, to honour basic emacs key bindings for cursor motions. In F21 and prior I had a little file in my home dir called ".gtkrc-2.0" which contained this magic line: gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" This no longer works. Would one of you kind souls share the magic incantation for F25? Thanks! -Sherman ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fedora in the Middle Kingdom
I may soon be living in China, and wanted to ask those with experience what VPN they've found that works best to get through the GFC. I've done some research on my own, and one name keeps coming up---ExpressVPN. But I would like your opinions, esp. as it relates to Fedora. (I'm running 21.) Thanks! Sherman -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall
On 01/11/2014 05:43 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 01/10/2014 11:16 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: In the output of `iptables -L', I see several lines that look like ACCEPT udp -- anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns ctstate NEW Hi Sherman, I have no experience with this particular protocol (mdns) but I know a bit about firewalld. The reason you're seeing this output from iptables is that, perhaps, some other zone (other than your default) is allowing mdns. A zone is really a predefined set of rules. By just looking at your output (without the chain name) we can't tell that much. We need to find out which particular zone you're on and whether it has the mdns service configured. Please post the output of (you need to run it as root): firewall-cmd --list-all Thanks for the help Jorge. Here's the output: [root@neuron ~]# firewall-cmd --list-all public (default, active) interfaces: em1 sources: services: mdns ssh ports: masquerade: no forward-ports: icmp-blocks: rich rules: Sherman -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall
On 01/11/2014 11:08 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 01/11/2014 02:45 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: [root@neuron ~]# firewall-cmd --list-all public (default, active) interfaces: em1 sources: services: mdns ssh ports: masquerade: no forward-ports: icmp-blocks: rich rules: All right. This confirms that you're using the default zone called public and that indeed you have mdns enabled for that zone so I'm not sure why isn't working.You could install tcpdump and try to capture a few seconds while you try to access the scanner. This way you could see the traffic that is originating from your scanner (and that your firewall may be blocking). You could do this by: yum install tcpdump tcpdump -i em1 src IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER I recognize this is kind of advanced stuff if you're not familiar with networking protocols so perhaps an easier way would be to white-list the ip address of your printer/scanner so that, any traffic coming from it, your firewall would allow it. I'm know almost nothing about network protocols, but I can follow instructions. :-) I've posted the output of two invocations of tcpdump at: http://ur1.ca/ge1i9 In the 1st invocation I used the scanner IP number; in the 2nd the IP name. (For some reason, the lines before C-c are different.) For each invocation, I started tcpdump, then started vuescan (which failed to see the scanner), then quit vuescan, then C-c-ed out of tcpdump. I would enjoy learning what the output means. If you trust your printer not to hack :) your computer you could do this: firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source address=IP-OF-YOUR-PRINTER accept' Try it. If that works then make the above rule permanent with: firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule 'rule family=ipv4 source address=IP-OF-YOUR-RINTER accept' Please let us know if it works. I tried the temporary change and it worked. If you have the time I would appreciate learning how to make the more fine-tuned changes in the firewall. O'wise I'll make the change permanent. Question: In my original message, I mentioned that I was seeing lines like ACCEPT udp -- anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns ctstate NEW in the output of `iptables -L'. One of these was in the Chain IN_public_allow (1 references) By goofing around in the firewall-config interface I was able to change the 224.0.0.251 to anywhere. But that didn't let the scanner through. Would you please explain why? Thanks. Sherman -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Problem seeing network scanner thru firewall
On an F18 machine I have an Epson WF3540 printer/scanner sitting on my LAN. Printing works. I downloaded the free version of VueScan to try it out before purchasing, but it can't see the scanner through the firewall. It just reports No scanner was found. If I disable the firewall with `systemctl stop firewalld.service' then VueScan can see and control the scanner. I wrote the author of VueScan and he said: You need to configure the firewall so it lets VueScan communicate with the scanner through the firewall. It's using mDNS UDP packets. In the output of `iptables -L', I see several lines that look like ACCEPT udp -- anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns ctstate NEW but I'm a firewall newbie and don't know what to do next. Would someone that understands please set me on the path to enlightenment. :-) Thanks! Sherman -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
firewall help
I have a new Epson WF3540 printer/scanner that's on my LAN. Printing works. I downloaded the free version of VueScan in order to use the scanner but I can't get it to see the scanner through the firewall. If I do systemctl stop firewalld.service then VueScan sees and controls the scanner. I wrote the author of VueScan and he said: You need to configure the firewall so it lets VueScan communicate with the scanner through the firewall. It's using mDNS UDP packets. In the iptables -L output I see several lines that look like ACCEPT udp -- anywhere 224.0.0.251 udp dpt:mdns ctstate NEW Not sure what to do next. I'm not too familiar with firewall rules. I'm running Fedora 18. Sherman -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm
On 12/24/2013 12:28 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Where can I get nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm? It does not seem to be available anywhere! rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/26/dist/86/size/24252532/name/nx-3.5.0-17.fc19.src.rpm -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
