Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
Roger Heflin: >> And the bios will have no way to know what is hot-swappable as that is >> an external case feature/add-on enclosure. Philip Rhoades: > Not sure what you mean - I can set "Hot Swappable" in the BIOS. For something to be hotswappable, everything has to support it (the host port, the drive, any devices the drive is inside, and your software). While you may be able to set a flag saying a port is hot swappable, it's more like you do the opposite: When you set it as not hot swappable, you're flagging it so other things don't attempt it. And, perhaps, you turn off a feature in the firmware. It's a bit like hanging a "wet paint" sign. It's an instruction that may, or may not, have the effect you want. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
On 8/21/22 23:23, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: I think he is stuck with booting into BIOS It does look like it . . a bit sad . . Just out of curiosity, is there some reason why you can't reboot? User have hot tar and feathers waiting for you? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
It generally is worse than that. It should be almost trivial to code, if you have the internal document for each bios version laying out the structure that is stored in the nvram. The other issue is even though it is trivial, the structure could be different between bios versions in the same MB, and also could be (probably will be) different across different motherboards making support of a large number of MB's basically impossible. I have never seen anyone release said document. The underlying document may even be under NDA to all of the MB makers from the bios vendor making it not an ASUS decision alone. Without the document it would be a difficult process, one would have to save out the nvram and make a change in the bios and see how it the bits changed. So long as the bios maker is not doing anything tricky it should not be that difficult to sort out, but would need to be done in each and every motherboard + major bios revision. On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:23 AM Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > > ToddAndMargo, > > > On 2022-08-22 16:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 8/21/22 21:29, Tim via users wrote: > >> On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 00:00 +1000, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > >>> I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to > >>> interrogate > >>> from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are > >>> hot-swappable > >>> but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of > >>> getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am > >>> running F36. > >> > >> Tangential approach - download the manual for the board. > > > > That won't help. They could be set either way. > > > Correct. > > > > I think he is stuck with booting into BIOS > > > It does look like it . . a bit sad . . would people on the grub list be > able to tell me how hard it would be to code? - anyone else worth > asking? I am guessing that ASUS would not have a Linux tool . . > > Thanks, > > Phil. > -- > Philip Rhoades > > PO Box 896 > Cowra NSW 2794 > Australia > E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
ToddAndMargo, On 2022-08-22 16:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 8/21/22 21:29, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 00:00 +1000, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am running F36. Tangential approach - download the manual for the board. That won't help. They could be set either way. Correct. I think he is stuck with booting into BIOS It does look like it . . a bit sad . . would people on the grub list be able to tell me how hard it would be to code? - anyone else worth asking? I am guessing that ASUS would not have a Linux tool . . Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
Roger, On 2022-08-22 06:40, Roger Heflin wrote: Generally there is no standard for how anything is encoded/decoded in the bios. Ah . . Each vendor does it a slightly different way even on different bios versions. You would need a vendor tool that works for the specific motherboard. Right. And the bios will have no way to know what is hot-swappable as that is an external case feature/add-on enclosure. Not sure what you mean - I can set "Hot Swappable" in the BIOS. If you are asking which sata ports are hot swappable, my experience has been, pretty much all of them can be hot swapped with the right external enclosure. Again - I have to set each drive for that function - I have never tried swapping when I hadn't set that function . . I do have have the removable enclosures for the drives I want to be able to insert / remove. Thanks, Phil. On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 9:01 AM Philip Rhoades via users wrote: People, I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am running F36. Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
On 8/21/22 21:29, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 00:00 +1000, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am running F36. Tangential approach - download the manual for the board. That won't help. They could be set either way. I think he is stuck with booting into BIOS ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
On Mon, 2022-08-22 at 00:00 +1000, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate > from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable > but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of > getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am > running F36. Tangential approach - download the manual for the board. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
Generally there is no standard for how anything is encoded/decoded in the bios. Each vendor does it a slightly different way even on different bios versions. You would need a vendor tool that works for the specific motherboard. And the bios will have no way to know what is hot-swappable as that is an external case feature/add-on enclosure. If you are asking which sata ports are hot swappable, my experience has been, pretty much all of them can be hot swapped with the right external enclosure. On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 9:01 AM Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > > People, > > I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate > from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable > but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of > getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am > running F36. > > Thanks, > Phil. > -- > Philip Rhoades > > PO Box 896 > Cowra NSW 2794 > Australia > E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Interrogating BIOS from CLI? - dmidecode doesn't have the info
People, I have a fairly recent ASUS ROG motherboard that I want to interrogate from the CLI - specifically to see which SATA drives are hot-swappable but dmidecode does not supply that information - is there some way of getting the info without rebooting into the BIOS setup screen? I am running F36. Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
