Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/1/23 05:40, Tim via users wrote: And I wonder how this will affect people who don't use Avahi, et al? I switch it off wherever possible, because it adds a new can of worms to networking. I have things on my LAN that can only use DHCP, and only want one network configuration control to

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023, Robert Nichols wrote: On 11/1/23 06:14, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:31?PM Robert Nichols wrote: How is that supposed to work for printers that have no network capability? IPP over USB

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/1/23 06:14, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:31 PM Robert Nichols wrote: How is that supposed to work for printers that have no network capability? IPP over USB https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems#Driverless_printing_(USB)

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-01 at 23:10 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Michael Hennebry > > > So, if I wanted to use a printer, e.g. mine, > > > that was not support out of the box, > > > I would have to change the box, > > > i.e. make a custom CUPS? > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > The theory is that you

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Tim via users
Michael Hennebry >> So, if I wanted to use a printer, e.g. mine, >> that was not support out of the box, >> I would have to change the box, >> i.e. make a custom CUPS? Patrick O'Callaghan: > The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except configure > the printer (in CUPS) to use

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 16:23 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ian Pilcher > wrote: > > > On 10/31/23 11:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except > > > configure > > > the printer (in CUPS) to use DNSSD. That in

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-01 at 04:14 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:31 PM Robert Nichols > wrote: > > How is that supposed to work for printers that have no network > > capability? > > IPP over USB >

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 3:31 PM Robert Nichols wrote: > How is that supposed to work for printers that have no network capability? IPP over USB https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_printing_problems#Driverless_printing_(USB) https://www.usb.org/document-library/ipp-protocol-10

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 10:47 AM Michael Hennebry wrote: > > CUPS wrote: > > Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in > > a > future version of CUPS. > > Then what? Printer Applications: https://openprinting.github.io/documentation/01-printer-application/ >

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 17:30 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 10/31/23 11:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except > > configure > > the printer (in CUPS) to use DNSSD. That in turn depends on Avahi > > working correctly. Try 'sudo avahi-browse

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Robert Nichols
On 10/31/23 11:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except configure the printer (in CUPS) to use DNSSD. That in turn depends on Avahi working correctly. Try 'sudo avahi-browse -a -t' to make sure the printer is visible. How is that supposed to

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Neal Becker
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 10/31/23 11:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except configure > > the printer (in CUPS) to use DNSSD. That in turn depends on Avahi > > working correctly. Try 'sudo avahi-browse -a -t'

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 10/31/23 11:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The theory is that you shouldn't have to do anything except configure the printer (in CUPS) to use DNSSD. That in turn depends on Avahi working correctly. Try 'sudo avahi-browse -a -t' to make sure the printer is visible. I just set up an Epson

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 11:03 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Clearly there is a driver involved. I think the term just means that no > additional driver is required. Note that Microsoft recently announced > that future versions of Windows (IIRC) would not support manufacturer- > provided

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-10-31 at 08:05 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Clearly there is a driver involved. I think the term just means > > that no > > additional driver is required. Note that Microsoft recently > > announced > > that future versions of

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 31 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Clearly there is a driver involved. I think the term just means that no additional driver is required. Note that Microsoft recently announced that future versions of Windows (IIRC) would not support manufacturer- provided drivers, so there appears

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 18:11 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 12:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > > CUPS wrote: > > > > Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will > > > > stop > > > > working in a > >

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 12:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: CUPS wrote: Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. Then what? It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW using

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 12:46 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > CUPS wrote: > > Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop > > working in a > future version of CUPS. > > Then what? > It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW > using the

Re: Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-30 Thread Neal Becker
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 1:47 PM Michael Hennebry < henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote: > CUPS wrote: > > Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working > in a > future version of CUPS. > > Then what? > It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW > using the

Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated

2023-10-30 Thread Michael Hennebry
CUPS wrote: Note:Printer drivers and raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. Then what? It wrote that after I installed a Brother HL-L2360DW using the printer-driver-brlaser-6.2.6-1.fc38.x86_64 package. It provided the Brother HL-L2360D series, using