Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty limited; I don't think MATE is on the list (although I could be wrong). But it's easily added after install with yum groupinstall 'MATE Desktop' I'm not a Gnome 3 hater, I actually like it for the most part, now that it's a lot more customizable than it was when it first came out. But I still have some use cases where it doesn't work so well. For one thing, I have not yet figured out a way to launch an application on the second monitor of a dual-head setup. Even if the launch icon is located on the second screen, it always launches on the first screen. I can then move it over manually, but this isn't really a good option when the two monitors are really two different inputs to the same output device, and the application is windowless full-screen. MATE has the same issue. I ended up having to use Xfce on those machines. It's nice that there are choices. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible.* 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong. *Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible.* 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace. Numbers 6:24-26 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. This is selectable at install? I will most likely try again tomorrow... 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible.* 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace. Numbers 6:24-26 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/18/2013 06:16 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain dennis.kapt...@gmail.com wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like. Only a 16GB SSD on this ASUS ee900. Kind of 'pressed' for space. I will give Mate a try first. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible.* 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with ~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE fails to save workspace settings, fails menu reorganizations, uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty good, but it can get ugly sometimes. I hope MATE applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! - Reply message - From: Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible. 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with ~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE fails to save workspace settings, fails menu reorganizations, uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty good, but it can get ugly sometimes. I hope MATE applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3.-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
On 12/18/2013 07:50 PM, eoconno...@gmail.com wrote: I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL! If I could config it easier. What is the app to change behaviour in apps like gedit? - Reply message - From: Dan Thurman d...@cdkkt.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote: Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot. 2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote: On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 bitlord wrote: (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on NONgnome-shell desktops I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason to run as far away from Gnome as possible.* 1+ I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard. would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still have on my Centos boxes. I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with ~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE fails to save workspace settings, fails menu reorganizations, uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty good, but it can get ugly sometimes. I hope MATE applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
