Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-04 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent: Then the question is: How do you boot up from suspend - is there a special way to boot up after this command to continue working with the data? Are you asking if I'm doing it wrong, or generally asking how to wake up the computer?

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-03 Thread Tim
Heinz Diehl: My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of us has encountered problems so far... Robert Moskowitz: It seems to be rather hardware related. Some works fine, others not. My old HP 2400 was great with it. Not so much my Lenovo x120e. I concur. I

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-03 Thread Tim
Rahul Sundaram: Because it is part of pm-utils and pm stands for power management. Robert Moskowitz: Oh, that makes perfect sense. Sarcasm or aha!? I'd be sarcastic, when it comes to something like - let's abbreviate power management to a needs-to-be-guessed at pm, but combined with a let's

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 01 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent: I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this command rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to look for the memory? In my case, it was much quicker to resume my laptop from suspend or hibernate

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-03 Thread Richard Vickery
? In my case, it was much quicker to resume my laptop from suspend or hibernate than do a cold boot. Plus I can resume back to everything that I was in the middle of doing. But, I've used other computers where resuming took just as long as a normal bootup. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Moskowitz
this command rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to look for the memory? In my case, it was much quicker to resume my laptop from suspend or hibernate than do a cold boot. Plus I can resume back to everything that I was in the middle of doing

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/01/2014 05:09 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi there: I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the computer up. Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. man pm

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
gedits, a few Natulises, and sundry others. I really don't like to boot unless I have to. Suspend and Hibernate are my friends. When hibernate works on this Lenovo; a known problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. man -k hibernate poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/01/2014 09:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Vickery Ah! Thanks! I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this command rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to look for the memory?

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 06:58 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. man -k hibernate So now I have to man man to

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 06:58 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. man -k hibernate BTW, I had to do a find on

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 02.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Hibernate takes all the current state and copies it to swap. Thus you need a large swap to handle this. I always create my swap twice my memory size. This is not neccessary. A swapspace equal the amount of RAM is enough to hibernate. -- users mailing

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 02.01.2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [Hibernation] Note however that Linux support for this is pretty limited/ buggy and I would recommend you don't do it. My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of us has encountered problems so far... -- users mailing list

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 02.01.2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [Hibernation] Note however that Linux support for this is pretty limited/ buggy and I would recommend you don't do it. My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of us

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. Because it is part of pm-utils and pm stands for power management. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 05:18 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 02.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Hibernate takes all the current state and copies it to swap. Thus you need a large swap to handle this. I always create my swap twice my memory size. This is not neccessary. A swapspace equal the amount of

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 05:20 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 02.01.2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [Hibernation] Note however that Linux support for this is pretty limited/ buggy and I would recommend you don't do it. My whole family uses Linux and has used hibernation regularly. None of us has encountered

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 05:22 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. Because it is part of pm-utils and pm stands for power management. Oh, that makes perfect sense.

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: man pm-hibernate Don't ask me why the pm-; it does make it hard to find. man -k hibernate So now I have to man man to find out its

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/02/2014 06:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: man

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-02 Thread poma
On 02.01.2014 23:23, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 02.01.2014, Rahul Sundaram wrote: [Hibernation] Note however that Linux support for this is pretty limited/ buggy and I would recommend you don't do it. My whole family uses Linux and

suspend or hibernate

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi there: I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the computer up. Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. Thanks -- Richard -- users mailing list users

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/02/14 06:09, Richard Vickery wrote: I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the computer up. Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. suspend keeps the system

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Vickery
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/02/14 06:09, Richard Vickery wrote: I just called up the gnome-tweak-tool: what's the difference between suspend and hibernate? It gives these, among other sleeping actions when folding the computer up. Just

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-01 Thread poma
On 01.01.2014 23:09, Richard Vickery wrote: Just curious - hibernate doesn't have a man page. man 5 systemd-sleep.conf /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-3.12.5/Documentation/power/states.txt https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/states.txt suspend to both aka hybrid-sleep(systemd).

Re: suspend or hibernate

2014-01-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Vickery Ah! Thanks! I might find hibernate on my own: why would a user use this command rather than saving and booting up? and How does it know that to look for the memory? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_%28computing%29 Note however

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz
else is installed, but not showing. I looks like I am suppose to browse some directory. But which? Meanwhile, Germán pointed out, I have gone to the URL to enable various extensions. But so far nothing about suspend or hibernate! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz
click it, it looks for file to install. Do I go to 'Get More Extensions'? What do you think? :) That link will open this site: https://extensions.gnome.org/ Alternative Status Menu extension doesn't work with Fedora 20 (yet). Oh. So how do I test hibernate until then? Suspend works when I

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-22 Thread Germán A. Racca
test hibernate until then? Suspend works when I close the notebook. Hi Robert, There is a command to do this, but I don't know if it is useful to you. Anyway, you can try 'systemctl hibernate'. -- Germán A. Racca Fedora Package Maintainer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Skytux -- users

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-22 Thread Robert Moskowitz
work with Fedora 20 (yet). Oh. So how do I test hibernate until then? Suspend works when I close the notebook. Hi Robert, There is a command to do this, but I don't know if it is useful to you. Anyway, you can try 'systemctl hibernate'. Yeah. All I had to do was to a locate on hibernate

f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
How do I get these available somewhere? I would assume on that top bar pulldown that has poweroff and screen lock? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-20 Thread Greg Woods
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 13:46 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: How do I get these available somewhere? I would assume on that top bar pulldown that has poweroff and screen lock? What desktop environment are you using? If it's Gnome 3, in the gnome-tweak-tool you can select Shell Extensions, then

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 13:46 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: How do I get these available somewhere? I would assume on that top bar pulldown that has poweroff and screen lock? What desktop environment are you using? If it's Gnome 3, in the

Re: f20 - suspend and hibernate buttons

2013-12-20 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 12/20/2013 05:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/20/2013 02:47 PM, Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 13:46 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: How do I get these available somewhere? I would assume on that top bar pulldown that has poweroff and screen lock? What desktop environment