Re: [IronPython] Feedbackneeded for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Keith J. Farmer
It's not what I assumed. Most .NET applications in my experience don't package the framework when they're distributed. In fact, I tend to feel offended when I find an app has packaged the entire runtime it needs and included it in the install. Zope really annoyed me in this way, and don't get

Re: [IronPython] IronPython and Python 3

2007-01-23 Thread James Matthews
Well i am sure that when python 3000 comes out iron python will be there with there version! On 1/23/07, Dino Viehland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We haven't had much in the ways of discussing supporting Py3k features yet and it might still be a little too early to do so. We have been following

Re: [IronPython] IronPython and Python 3

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Foord
Dino Viehland wrote: > We haven't had much in the ways of discussing supporting Py3k features yet > and it might still be a little too early to do so. We have been following > some of the changes and we'll probably start following the changes a little > more closely. > > We also still have some

Re: [IronPython] Feedbackneeded for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Foord
Keith J. Farmer wrote: > I was just latching myself onto the shipping-binaries-only blurb in the > original email. :) > > My personal biases are against shipping source code, if for no other reason > than it avoids the problems of office-chair programmers modifying code they > don't actually u

Re: [IronPython] Feedback needed for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Foord
Dino Viehland wrote: > This should be solvable in a similar but slightly different way. We wouldn't > want to require an extra argument (in this case the versioned IronPython > engine) to be required for each call. Also I'm going to pick a slightly more > generic example "DoOperation" instead

Re: [IronPython] IronPython and Python 3

2007-01-23 Thread Dino Viehland
We haven't had much in the ways of discussing supporting Py3k features yet and it might still be a little too early to do so. We have been following some of the changes and we'll probably start following the changes a little more closely. We also still have some catching up to do with v2.5 (1.

Re: [IronPython] Feedbackneeded for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Keith J. Farmer
I was just latching myself onto the shipping-binaries-only blurb in the original email. :) My personal biases are against shipping source code, if for no other reason than it avoids the problems of office-chair programmers modifying code they don't actually understand. That, and the deploymen

Re: [IronPython] Feedbackneededfor bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Keith J. Farmer
If it did, I don't think we'd be getting the continuous updates. Thought some more on the commute. The are a couple problems, overall, when versioning. The basic problem I think is avoiding the dll explosion when maintaining side-by-side versions that are frequently updated. The explosion c

Re: [IronPython] Problems with -X:SaveAssemblies

2007-01-23 Thread Dino Viehland
It might be interesting to also run with -X:ExceptionDetail to see where the exception is coming from and report that back to the Mono team. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haibo Luo Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:05 AM To: Discussion o

Re: [IronPython] Feedback needed for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Dino Viehland
This should be solvable in a similar but slightly different way. We wouldn't want to require an extra argument (in this case the versioned IronPython engine) to be required for each call. Also I'm going to pick a slightly more generic example "DoOperation" instead of Add (because a bug fix to

Re: [IronPython] Feedback neededfor bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Bill64bits
When/If IronPython becomes stable won't IronPython.dll just disappear into the .NET runtime? - Original Message - From: Keith J. Farmer To: Discussion of IronPython Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [IronPython] Feedback neededfor bug fix:Import pre-compiled

Re: [IronPython] Feedback needed for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread Keith J. Farmer
I could be wrong (I certainly have been in the past), but the current scheme seems to pre-empt the built-in mechanisms. There are several ways you can get a reference to an assembly -- file name, name space without strong name, name space and version, name space and public key, etc. This works

Re: [IronPython] Problems with -X:SaveAssemblies

2007-01-23 Thread Haibo Luo
I did not see the repro in ironpython + .net. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanghyeon Seo Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:26 PM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] Problems with -X:SaveAssemblies I found this while testi

Re: [IronPython] Feedback needed for bug fix:Import pre-compiledmodules

2007-01-23 Thread J. Merrill
I'm not arguing with you -- just playing devil's advocate. Isn't "everyone has to use the same centrally maintained copy of a DLL" the recipe for "DLL hell" that .Net is supposed to let us avoid? In the specific scenario you provide -- you update a DLL used by an existing EXE -- .Net is design

[IronPython] type.__call__ again

2007-01-23 Thread Sanghyeon Seo
CPython >>> type.__call__(object) IronPython >>> type.__call__(object) Something's wrong... -- Seo Sanghyeon ___ users mailing list users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com